"If you do everything at once, you move a bit in every direction. And in reality, after six to eight months, you have a process that has moved a little in every dimension, but you have no concrete measure of the change or of success."

Recorded live at Adopt AI - Grand Palais 2025, this Deep Talk episode brings together Hanan Ouazan, Managing Partner & AI Lead at Artefact, and Christophe Auffray, Data & AI journalist. They set the agentic AI marketing aside and look at what happens in companies: executive committees taking up the subject, the difference between agents, RPA and generative AI, and a method to rebuild a business process step by step.

What should a company do first when every vendor now sells agents: buy a tool, or understand how its own processes really work?

Six to nine months on executive committee agendas. Around twenty years of RPA already in place. A three-step method: why, where, how. Processes that live in people's heads more than on paper. Listen to discover why agents add a string to the bow without replacing the tools companies already run.

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