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• Speaker #0

  Hey wonderful human beings, my name is Anne-Claire and I will be presenting Sophie Le Donne's podcast, Learning in the Flow of Life. A light and deep dynamic transformative show for people who want to sustainably grow into new possibilities and make a positive impact in the world. Hi everybody! Last time we discovered Sophie's first C around consciousness and collecting data around where we are on the ladder at certain moments in time. Today we'll be talking about the second of Sophie's five C's, curiosity. The second C aims to question the status quo, seek out new experiences and delve into the unknown. This concept It can serve as a common language for developing sustainable habits and making conscious environmental decisions, as the IDG calls in their framework, thinking. Sophie, up to you now. Tell us more about your second C for curiosity.

• Speaker #1

  Thank you, Anne-Claire. Well, neuroscience reveals that quenching our thirst for knowledge activates the same brain region as indulging in a delicious meal. The way we talk about curiosity with phrases like hungry for knowledge or satisfying our curiosity mirrors this connection. It suggests that the pleasure we derive from learning and discovery could be as vital to our well-being as enjoying a fantastic meal and experiencing intimacy. This interesting connection suggests that being curious might be essential for our survival. Yet, can we have a binary thinking around curiosity or not?

• Speaker #0

  In fact, we're not only curious or not curious. It all depends on our interest. But what would curiosity bring on the table then?

• Speaker #1

  Well... Curiosity serves as the catalyst for a deeper inquiry of thinking in this complex world. It is like a growth mindset in action, not afraid to step out of our comfort zone with an open heart and mind. It is the spark that ignites a passion for learning, an intrinsic motivation for sustaining engagement and perseverance in the face of challenges. It is about... turning everybody into becoming facilitators of knowledge. Like I said in the first podcast, humans act in certain ways because they hold the belief that these actions are the best way to maintain the self that they perceive ourselves to be. But what if to be were an action verb signifying movement in infinite directions? To be would not be a fixed state but a human journey characterized by Curiosity, a daring journey, embracing uncertainty and willing to take risks. This famous joy of not knowing from Marcelo Starikov.

• Speaker #0

  Yeah, not knowing is the state of multiple possibilities. That's very exciting. Wow, not knowing is the state of multiple possibilities. That's very exciting. With that in mind, how can we create some conscious rituals of becoming then?

• Speaker #1

  I love that question. Well, when we can ask ourselves, how curious are we today? That's when the ritual can start. I sometimes feel that curiosity is a lot like a compass guiding a traveler through the vast and complex landscape of a mountain range. Just as a compass. provides direction and purpose to a journey through the multi-faceted terrains of knowledge and experience. It points us towards new horizons, urging us to explore beyond familiar grounds. This compass of curiosity encourages us to take detours and to embrace the journeys and predictability. Each direction it points us to represent a question, an intrigue, or a challenge leading to new insights and understanding. And just like navigating a mountain range, the journey fueled by curiosity involves ups and downs.

• Speaker #0

  Wow, I love the dual metaphor around a navigation and mountain. For me, our environment offers us so many different experiences.

• Speaker #1

  Absolutely, and Claire, in this metaphorical journey, the mountain range in fact symbolises our internal compass, reminding us that there are always new paths to explore, new perspectives to gain and new lessons to learn, no matter how high we climb. It's this endless pursuit guided by the compass of curiosity that enriches our journey through the landscape of life and learning.

• Speaker #0

  Hey, before moving forward. you can pose and download the image on Sophie's website, www.sophieledonner.com. Let's go.

• Speaker #1

  Wonderful. Well, and if you can't download the image, well, you'd have to imagine. Imagine a compass, right?

• Speaker #0

  Good idea.

• Speaker #1

  A compass with two questions to ask yourself. We're positioned at the north and two in the south. This will enable you to explore the diverse experiences you can encounter by adopting a curious mindset in the flow of life. In each quadrant of the compass, rate yourself on a scale of one to five.

• Speaker #0

  One to five.

• Speaker #1

  Okay. The Northwest Quadrant focuses on how you assimilate new knowledge and delve deeply into understanding a problem calmly. This segment encourages self-examination about how effectively you blend patience and insight in your learning process. The question would be, do you form hypotheses and use cues to delve deeper into understanding a problem?

• Speaker #0

  Okay.

• Speaker #1

  The North East Quadrant focuses on how you explore new knowledge and dare to act upon. This segment encourages proactive engagement and self-discovery. The question could be, do you embrace the challenge presented by difficult situations?

• Speaker #0

  I see, I see. But, you know, Sophie, I'm really curious. Tell us what's going on in the south of the campus. I can't wait.

• Speaker #1

  Oh, I know you're curious, dear. So let's see. The south and west quadrant focuses on how you reflect on previous experiences and take lessons from them. This segment encourages introspection and the application of learned wisdom, guiding you to build upon past insights for future improvement. The question could be, do you take time to reflect on past experiences and draw lessons from them? The Southeast Quadrant emphasizes making improvements through new ideas and sharing them with others. This segment encourages imagining how to... Drive improvement through innovative thinking and collaborative efforts, fostering a culture of creativity and mutual inspiration. The question could be, do you question the established norms and drive improvement through new ideas that you share with your peers?

• Speaker #0

  Hey, of course I do.

• Speaker #1

  I can imagine you do. This is definitely you. Of course. Oh, so number five you would give yourself, right? Right. Five. Five. So for me, encouraging ourselves to think outside the box and explore diverse perspectives leads to the discovery of new ideas and solutions. I could even say it's the driving force behind scientific breakthroughs, artistic creations and technological advancements. I couldn't say it.

• Speaker #0

  Advancements. But, you know, sometimes being outside the box can lead to many doubts.

• Speaker #1

  but then so many options can come to light absolutely oh yeah absolutely but but i feel though that we may have many challenges and barriers to face when maintaining curiosity in a world that often values immediate results and conformity so how about if we question ourselves around the exploration of our biases beliefs and our purpose would this help Can you think of a time when your initial impression of a situation or person was proved wrong? What have you learned? And how do your beliefs influence your goals? Are they holding you back?

• Speaker #0

  Yeah, sometimes for sure.

• Speaker #1

  Can you describe a moment when you felt truly aligned with your purpose? How can you incorporate more of that into your life? And in the face of obstacles, let's remind ourselves that when embracing curiosity, we open ourselves up to a world of endless possibilities and opportunities for growth, making it an essential component of learning in the flow of life. And finally, the everyday question could also be as simple as... How can I improve? How can we improve together?

• Speaker #0

  Dear listeners, after all these questions, how do you feel?

• Speaker #1

  I don't want actually to ask, right, Aunt Claire? Questions just for the sake of asking them. I want to know if the key to curiosity has been unlocked for you. What thoughts and feelings? What obstacles? Let's share this together. Come talk to me about it through my website. I hope you have found my exploration of new possibilities, both light and deep. And if you're keen to see these ideas come to life around you, and if you'd like to create a ripple effect in the world, please do share this with others.

• Speaker #0

  Yes, do share this with others. You can post about it on social media. Or feel free to contact Sophie through our website sophieledonner.com to co-create possibilities in your surroundings at work, at school and at home. If you feel like knowing more about Sophie's work, you can also check out her famous book, Agility of Mind. We are so grateful for your attention. Thanks again and see you soon for a new episode.

• Speaker #1

  See you soon.

• Speaker #0

  See you soon.