S03 E05 Product Ownership in Hybrid Environments with Kai Stevens

53min | 03/23/2022

Description

We’re two years into the pandemic by now, and things have changed forever. One of those is the way we build products. Not just team-work wise, but just as much the way product ownership has changed.

Kai Stevens is one of the most awesome Product Owners/Product Managers that I know, so I decided to ask him to come on the show and talk about what he feels has changed and how deals with these changes.
What you’ll discover in this show:

- The pandemic has provided opportunities, for instance by deleting location restrictions
- Due to missing body language, new ways of stakeholder engagement are needed
- OKRs are still highly useful and might even provide more guidance than ever before

Speakers:
Kai Stevens
Group Product Manager Device Experience at tado° || Product Leadership || Product Owner Trainer at Scrum Facilitators

Passionate product owner driven to build game-changing (software) products together with inspiring people. Guiding and collaborating closely with leadership teams and multi-disciplinary development teams to maximize value. I am experienced in all aspects of product ownership ranging from vision and strategy all the way down to tactics. Colleagues find me pushing the limits to release early and often to validate assumptions and deliver value in rapid pace. When working with me you will experience a compelling WHY at any time while I leave the HOW to others with clear boundaries to become successful.
Contact Kai:
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaistevens/

Sander Dur (host)Scrum Master, Agile Coach, trainer, and podcast host for ‘Mastering Agility”

Sander Dur is a Professional Scrum Trainer at Scrum.org, podcast host of Mastering Agility, Professional Scrum Master and Lead Agile Consultant, and trainer at Xebia. Besides this, he's an avid writer for predominantly Serious Scrum on Medium.com. Sander has a significant passion for the human side in complex domains. Ensuring a high level of psychological safety, therefore, is a critical part of his work. Organizations in complex domains can only survive when innovating. Innovation can only take place with the right balance between low social friction and high intellectual friction. While most organizations now understand how to apply Agile frameworks, they struggle with the delivery of value. Psychological safety is the next step in this evolution and Sander has a huge drive to help organizations reach that step.

He gained experience as a Scrum Master, Agile Coach, and Leadership consultant in many different top-tier organizations, including Nike and ASML.

Masteringagility.org
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanderdur/
https://xebia.com/academy/nl/trainers/sander-dur
https://sander-dur.medium.com/

Additional resources:

PSPO-A by Kai: https://www.scrumfacilitators.nl/etn/pspo-a-19-20-may-2022/

Mastering Agility events: https://www.meetup

Support the show

Contact us at:

Masteringagility.org
https://xebia.com/academy/nl/trainers/sander-dur

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamessammons/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanderdur/

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Chapters

Intro
0sec
Welcoming Kai
1min
The impact of the pandemic
3min
Missing body language
9min
What if the CEO doesn't like it?
18min
OKRs
27min
Product Goals
39min
The difference between PO and PM
42min
Outro
51min

About Mastering Agility

Why is it that products are so hard to develop and deliver?

How can we truly deliver value with so many different variables that can affect the outcome?

We are Sander Dur and Jim Sammons, professional consultants and trainers who support organizations in their pursuit of creating valuable products. Passionate about helping the community and practitioners apply the theory many authors and thought leaders bring to the industry, we started this podcast to make these concepts more accessible.

This podcast will change your career and organization. You’ll be entertained while learning about the industry’s leaders and other practitioners, and you’ll feel familiar with the situations discussed as we invite guests over and discuss tools, concepts, models, metrics, leadership, frameworks, and many more elements that help you deliver amazing products.

Both of us understand the many struggles, challenges, antipatterns, and dysfunctions many of us face in our daily working lives. We are here to provide actionable advice and strategies for you to create continuous improvement. You will find things that actually work for many organizations, as we and our guests have tried and tested them.

You will find a goldmine of actionable information from many fields, including the space industry, Formula 1, psychology, and Silicon Valley’s top entrepreneurs. We break down these complex topics into easily digestible insights that you can start applying in your careers right away. The best part is that you can even join our live recordings to ask your most burning questions and get them answered based on your needs!

We dive deep into the world of business agility, product discovery, delivery, validation, product management, and product frameworks like Scrum, Kanban, LeSS, and many more. We’ll explore the benefits of decentralized decision-making, autonomous empowered teams, leadership, and much more. We empower you with the information you need to become the leaders your organization deserve.

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

About Mastering Agility

Why is it that products are so hard to develop and deliver?

How can we truly deliver value with so many different variables that can affect the outcome?

We are Sander Dur and Jim Sammons, professional consultants and trainers who support organizations in their pursuit of creating valuable products. Passionate about helping the community and practitioners apply the theory many authors and thought leaders bring to the industry, we started this podcast to make these concepts more accessible.

This podcast will change your career and organization. You’ll be entertained while learning about the industry’s leaders and other practitioners, and you’ll feel familiar with the situations discussed as we invite guests over and discuss tools, concepts, models, metrics, leadership, frameworks, and many more elements that help you deliver amazing products.

Both of us understand the many struggles, challenges, antipatterns, and dysfunctions many of us face in our daily working lives. We are here to provide actionable advice and strategies for you to create continuous improvement. You will find things that actually work for many organizations, as we and our guests have tried and tested them.

You will find a goldmine of actionable information from many fields, including the space industry, Formula 1, psychology, and Silicon Valley’s top entrepreneurs. We break down these complex topics into easily digestible insights that you can start applying in your careers right away. The best part is that you can even join our live recordings to ask your most burning questions and get them answered based on your needs!

We dive deep into the world of business agility, product discovery, delivery, validation, product management, and product frameworks like Scrum, Kanban, LeSS, and many more. We’ll explore the benefits of decentralized decision-making, autonomous empowered teams, leadership, and much more. We empower you with the information you need to become the leaders your organization deserve.

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Description

We’re two years into the pandemic by now, and things have changed forever. One of those is the way we build products. Not just team-work wise, but just as much the way product ownership has changed.

Kai Stevens is one of the most awesome Product Owners/Product Managers that I know, so I decided to ask him to come on the show and talk about what he feels has changed and how deals with these changes.
What you’ll discover in this show:

- The pandemic has provided opportunities, for instance by deleting location restrictions
- Due to missing body language, new ways of stakeholder engagement are needed
- OKRs are still highly useful and might even provide more guidance than ever before

Speakers:
Kai Stevens
Group Product Manager Device Experience at tado° || Product Leadership || Product Owner Trainer at Scrum Facilitators

Passionate product owner driven to build game-changing (software) products together with inspiring people. Guiding and collaborating closely with leadership teams and multi-disciplinary development teams to maximize value. I am experienced in all aspects of product ownership ranging from vision and strategy all the way down to tactics. Colleagues find me pushing the limits to release early and often to validate assumptions and deliver value in rapid pace. When working with me you will experience a compelling WHY at any time while I leave the HOW to others with clear boundaries to become successful.
Contact Kai:
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaistevens/

Sander Dur (host)Scrum Master, Agile Coach, trainer, and podcast host for ‘Mastering Agility”

Sander Dur is a Professional Scrum Trainer at Scrum.org, podcast host of Mastering Agility, Professional Scrum Master and Lead Agile Consultant, and trainer at Xebia. Besides this, he's an avid writer for predominantly Serious Scrum on Medium.com. Sander has a significant passion for the human side in complex domains. Ensuring a high level of psychological safety, therefore, is a critical part of his work. Organizations in complex domains can only survive when innovating. Innovation can only take place with the right balance between low social friction and high intellectual friction. While most organizations now understand how to apply Agile frameworks, they struggle with the delivery of value. Psychological safety is the next step in this evolution and Sander has a huge drive to help organizations reach that step.

He gained experience as a Scrum Master, Agile Coach, and Leadership consultant in many different top-tier organizations, including Nike and ASML.

Masteringagility.org
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanderdur/
https://xebia.com/academy/nl/trainers/sander-dur
https://sander-dur.medium.com/

Additional resources:

PSPO-A by Kai: https://www.scrumfacilitators.nl/etn/pspo-a-19-20-may-2022/

Mastering Agility events: https://www.meetup

Support the show

Contact us at:

Masteringagility.org
https://xebia.com/academy/nl/trainers/sander-dur

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamessammons/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanderdur/

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Chapters

Intro
0sec
Welcoming Kai
1min
The impact of the pandemic
3min
Missing body language
9min
What if the CEO doesn't like it?
18min
OKRs
27min
Product Goals
39min
The difference between PO and PM
42min
Outro
51min

About Mastering Agility

Why is it that products are so hard to develop and deliver?

How can we truly deliver value with so many different variables that can affect the outcome?

We are Sander Dur and Jim Sammons, professional consultants and trainers who support organizations in their pursuit of creating valuable products. Passionate about helping the community and practitioners apply the theory many authors and thought leaders bring to the industry, we started this podcast to make these concepts more accessible.

This podcast will change your career and organization. You’ll be entertained while learning about the industry’s leaders and other practitioners, and you’ll feel familiar with the situations discussed as we invite guests over and discuss tools, concepts, models, metrics, leadership, frameworks, and many more elements that help you deliver amazing products.

Both of us understand the many struggles, challenges, antipatterns, and dysfunctions many of us face in our daily working lives. We are here to provide actionable advice and strategies for you to create continuous improvement. You will find things that actually work for many organizations, as we and our guests have tried and tested them.

You will find a goldmine of actionable information from many fields, including the space industry, Formula 1, psychology, and Silicon Valley’s top entrepreneurs. We break down these complex topics into easily digestible insights that you can start applying in your careers right away. The best part is that you can even join our live recordings to ask your most burning questions and get them answered based on your needs!

We dive deep into the world of business agility, product discovery, delivery, validation, product management, and product frameworks like Scrum, Kanban, LeSS, and many more. We’ll explore the benefits of decentralized decision-making, autonomous empowered teams, leadership, and much more. We empower you with the information you need to become the leaders your organization deserve.

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

About Mastering Agility

Why is it that products are so hard to develop and deliver?

How can we truly deliver value with so many different variables that can affect the outcome?

We are Sander Dur and Jim Sammons, professional consultants and trainers who support organizations in their pursuit of creating valuable products. Passionate about helping the community and practitioners apply the theory many authors and thought leaders bring to the industry, we started this podcast to make these concepts more accessible.

This podcast will change your career and organization. You’ll be entertained while learning about the industry’s leaders and other practitioners, and you’ll feel familiar with the situations discussed as we invite guests over and discuss tools, concepts, models, metrics, leadership, frameworks, and many more elements that help you deliver amazing products.

Both of us understand the many struggles, challenges, antipatterns, and dysfunctions many of us face in our daily working lives. We are here to provide actionable advice and strategies for you to create continuous improvement. You will find things that actually work for many organizations, as we and our guests have tried and tested them.

You will find a goldmine of actionable information from many fields, including the space industry, Formula 1, psychology, and Silicon Valley’s top entrepreneurs. We break down these complex topics into easily digestible insights that you can start applying in your careers right away. The best part is that you can even join our live recordings to ask your most burning questions and get them answered based on your needs!

We dive deep into the world of business agility, product discovery, delivery, validation, product management, and product frameworks like Scrum, Kanban, LeSS, and many more. We’ll explore the benefits of decentralized decision-making, autonomous empowered teams, leadership, and much more. We empower you with the information you need to become the leaders your organization deserve.

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

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Chapters

Intro

Welcoming Kai

The impact of the pandemic

Missing body language

What if the CEO doesn't like it?

OKRs

Product Goals

The difference between PO and PM

Outro

Chapters

Intro

Welcoming Kai

The impact of the pandemic

Missing body language

What if the CEO doesn't like it?

OKRs

Product Goals

The difference between PO and PM

Outro

Chapters

Intro

Welcoming Kai

The impact of the pandemic

Missing body language

What if the CEO doesn't like it?

OKRs

Product Goals

The difference between PO and PM

Outro

Chapters

Intro

Welcoming Kai

The impact of the pandemic

Missing body language

What if the CEO doesn't like it?

OKRs

Product Goals

The difference between PO and PM

Outro