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  Bonjour, pour ce premier podcast, je suis tellement heureuse de te marater. Je suis le créateur archi-étraque de la maison Artéphée, qui ne fait pas que des vêtements, mais des axes de vie. La maison Artéphée se définit comme une maison culturelle qui est spécialisée à la création de pièces uniques et de la photographie. Et leurs démarches sont durables et elles reposent sur le tisanada, l'excellence tisanale et la mode. Ils définissent en valeur comme la créativité et utilisent leur passion dans leur héritage, leur culture, leur individualité et surtout leur authenticité. Ainsi, ne se définit pas comme un fashion designer, il se définit comme un cultural designer. que ce qu'il crée n'est ni une tendance ni un produit, c'est une œuvre habitée par l'émotion, la mémoire, les cultures et la valeur humaine. Il dit « We make culture » . Son travail se situe entre l'art, l'artisanat, le rituel et le sacré. Il mêle la détection ancienne, des broderies, des peurs, des savoir-faire traditionnels, mélange tous les folklores. Et ils les déconstruisent, ils les hybridisent, ils les détournent. Pas pour les effacer, mais pour leur donner justement une nouvelle vie, une nouvelle identité. Pour Artie, la création est un geste de réparation. Il le dit lui-même et il répare sa mémoire à travers ses vêtements. Il prend l'ancien, l'usé, l'abîmé, le chargé d'histoire et lance quelque chose de vivant, de joyeux, de lumineux. Une forme de rigueur. Son œuvre est traversée par une idée sombre, par reliance et l'hybridation. Il embrasse le mélange des gens avec une voix jubilatoire. Relier les cultures sans l'ennemi, relier le passé et le présent, relier le sacré et le profane, relier les corps, les identités, les émotions. Avant de créer des vêtements, Archer était danseur classique pendant 20 ans. Et cette danse ne l'a jamais quitté. Il dit « If I don't dance my work, I don't do it » . Créer doit rester léger, fluide, sans lourdeur, sans violence, même quand le geste est politique. C'est joyeux. Face à un monde dominé par la reproduction, la vitesse et l'intelligence artificielle, il affirme un hyperhumanisme, ce qui ne se copie pas. Ce sont les émotions, les souvenirs, les rêves. Ces pièces sont finies, comme les personnes qui les portent. Ils refusent l'uniforme, ils refusent que l'on porte une marque, ils veulent que l'on se porte soi-même. Ce manifeste est clair. Liking yourself is a rebellious act. Dans une société qui prospère sur le doute, s'aimer devient un acte de résistance. La photographie prolonge ce jeu. Elle n'est pas un outil de vente, mais un journal intime, un tableau contemporain, une apparition qui fixe l'énergie du moment au fond, artistale de liberté, de joie, de beauté, force de réparation, de célébration de vie, de foi en l'amour et de la liberté. Parce que pour lui, c'est sûr, la beauté peut changer le monde. Alors aujourd'hui, dans ce post-cast, nous allons parler de la possession, de l'éloignement, d'identité, de sacré et de cette conviction profonde que la beauté, quand elle est vraie, fait encore sauver quelque chose d'une. Bonjour, je m'appelle Sarah. Merci beaucoup. Merci beaucoup. Merci beaucoup. Peux-tu me dire ce que tu penses ? Juste pour me dire ce que c'est, pour m'expliquer ce que c'est. C'est mon cœur. C'est mon cœur. Oui. Où je suis ? Ce que je vois ? Qu'est-ce que tu fais ?

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  Je suis très honnête.

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  Honnête. Tu es très honnête.

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  C'est ce que tu as, c'est ce que tu as fait,

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  It's only honest.

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  It's only honest. You're very honest. You're perfectly, I'm not the stupid one.

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  You're perfectly pure. Yeah,

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  I'm not honest. Honest. And I have a community manager, a manager of the station. Only that? Only that. So they try to keep it private and create this kind of work. That kind of thing, that would be very, um... Not only emotional, but very intimate.

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  Yeah.

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  It cannot be very deep.

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  Of course it cannot.

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  But it is the magic of it.

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  Yeah, but what is the magic of it for you?

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  Emotions, memories, culture, heritage, values, uniqueness, things that have nothing to do with money, but with the human values. And how do you...

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  How do you see yourself? How do you consider yourself? You're making fabrics,

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  but you're making clothes. I think I'm a culture designer. A culture designer. I don't think I'm a fashion designer because I don't have anything that relates to Syria. And I see everything with a perspective. So I do everything in order to be liked. ...other than with economy or with money or something. Yeah. And how did you start? It was years,

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  and then I had to make a decision.

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  And I start from there.

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  Dancer. Okay. And what is the bridge?

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  I think it's a metaphor for a dance man.

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  What is dancing?

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  It's doing it after dance. It should not be something that is burdening you or something. Okay.

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  What is dancing when you make a dress or a design?

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  I think dancing is something that is very... there is a movement, there is a... It's very interesting because when you talk about dancing, there is nothing heavy about dancing, in any case. ...you and you have to provoke it.

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  What about it? Well, when you are dancing, what kind of creation you make, you understand? I was... it took me a long time to improve myself,

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  you know, that is after... I am a politician. For many years, you... Yeah,

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  yeah,

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  of course.

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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And emotion on the fly-grass, you know? How can you explain this kind of emotion you put inside of your work? My emotion has to do with love.

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  The title of the video is... Yeah, and when you say that you're loving yourself,

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  it's a rebellion. It's defilement. You sign with that, no? Yeah. And then you create things in order to wear it. What is the statue of the fabric of the... I work with antique fabrics, very old garments.

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  I work with the collection.

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  I love the way you work with folklore. Folklore all over the world. And I was looking at your pieces and I was thinking it's magical. It takes all the folklore from all over the world and that is a way to desacralize them. Yeah. You know, to evolve them. You construct, you know, you attract, you have an in-mix with other things that have nothing to see, in order to sacralize them differently. Tell me about that. Well, listen,

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  if we're not going to change culture, and we need to modify the education system, Ladies and gentlemen, this is me, Nathan Fletcher. You understand that word? You think you're resacralizing or not? I think I'm resacralizing, but just giving a new life. Yeah.

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  Like and subscribe

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  There are many stories probably.

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  Yeah. And they're full. Yeah. And tell me about it. Hybrid,

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  is it?

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  Hybrid. Hybrid.

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  Tell me intuitively. Yeah, don't question. But when you think about it, if you allow me to do what I can, what is right, there will be something. We'll give this piece to the...

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  What do you like with mixing things that have nothing to see together, you know?

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  I like that everything can be mixed.

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  Yes, and it's like a poetry. It is, it is. And it's a surrealism, think about it.

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  It's very surreal. I think I'm talented and I'm grateful to be able to be a judge, but I don't want to give my The way I do it, and I want to make sure that I'm grounded while I'm doing it. I think talent by itself is good enough. Yeah. And it's not always positive. You need to be, you know, a lot of people dream in when they come to... Yeah. The feeling you have inside of you when you create I'm very happy Tell me I'm very happy Because I think if you know that I become a creator from a I think circumstance Not only kill me My turn?

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  Yes, it is, it is. I am...

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  I'm a person.

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  I'm a person. You put what inside?

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  I take the nano-inert way to put on. Okay. This is how you return.

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  And then I see them. Why you are so linked, selected?

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  An old thing?

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  Yes.

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  And that's why you give them all the life? Yes, because we've got a channel in my work. Yeah. And when you're making your photographs,

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  it's the same?

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  Yes.

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  Tell me.

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  I just want to take a photograph. But it's a new thing. It's a new thing. I would never take it. And what's down? What's the glove?

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  More than your fabric.

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  The deal, you know. It's all going to live together, but the thing is that the piece of gold is lost. I never take the photography It's a bit of a diary for me A diary? Yes, it's a diary And you started with the

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  with the photo or with the fabric?

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  with the photo or with the fabric why? what happened? what did you want to express? it's kind of like stealth as well it was not like I thought that I had another voice yeah and this other voice you wanted to yeah I wanted to talk about it I wanted to speak So I now have to accept the fact that you're a minister now?

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  Yeah, I'm a minister now. Give me everything. Give me the...

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  There is no bad energy nowhere in my world.

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  There is no anger,

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  there is no jealousy, there is no nothing. It's just a way of expressing myself.

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  Yeah, for me it's very special. Tell me a little bit about your universe, you know,

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  your creative universe. No, it's just something that you need. I know, it's your sensitivity. Yes, it's probably the sensitivity that I need.

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  What is sensitivity? To live.

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  To live. To live it,

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  sorry. In a certain way?

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  I think in the way the teacher.

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  And you, with your work, you speak about what kind of living?

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  The joy of living.

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  The joy. It's only, yeah, joy is so important.

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  It's not only that. We need to work more with our heart.

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  And you succeed in that?

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  Yes.

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  You dream in your heart. Cut off.

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  You're amused. Well, it's...

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  It's amused or not? It's not amused. What? That's how I move somewhere else.

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  Because it's something of the very first...

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  She really inspired me and then I came to her. She is wonderful inside of her too.

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  She is smart.

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  What did you recognize in her, yourself, in my English?

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  The power of uniqueness. The power of uniqueness. And, yeah, that's it. Yeah, probably, yeah. Yeah,

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  you really think that? And your manner,

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  your art,

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  what is this manner? What do you want to tell them?

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  Be yourself. Just be yourself because if you are self-declared you cannot be anybody else anyway. Try just to be yourself.

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  And when you create pieces, it's in order to...

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  Give people and to give. Because every piece would be one to one. Everybody is individual. Yeah. Yeah.

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  And when people come and the piece selects them, I imagine.

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  No, they go and they pick it. And they pick it.

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  You, when you see that. Because you are... You know I don't tell my business.

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  I let the people see. So I don't force nobody to buy anything. Of course you don't.

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  But how do you feel when you see people... I feel how they are and suddenly they are like...

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  Well, I was a bit overwhelmed when it happened to me. And it's so special. Yeah, because it's so out of the ordinary.

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  You like provoking them?

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  I don't like it. It's something very honest about them.

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  Ah, something about people, instead of them? Yes,

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  they had to wake up.

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  In what in Israel? In what in Israel?

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  I left Israel definitely because I never came back home In Morocco

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  What speaks to you so much about your culture in Morocco?

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  The honest people.

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  And what do you catch? We are very easy with ourselves. Yeah, and the mix, this mixed culture you have with Israeli and here. I'm not Jewish. You're Jewish and Arabic? I am Jewish. You are Jewish. How do you feel? You're Jewish in Morocco today.

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  I'm Jewish in Morocco. Being part of an unacceptable humanity through God and... Yeah, of course.

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  And with the Arabic origin? You're very close to that.

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  Yes, of course,

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  I am Jewish in Arabic. My father is from Macon. Yes, I am.

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  I have the... yeah.

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  You're Arabic. I'm a non-Arabic Jewish. I'm Jewish, but I'm Arabic at the same time. It's not very often that we can...

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  We can listen to that, you know. Well, it should be very well. The food and the... Yeah, yeah. You mix the languages?

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  I didn't see that Hebrew and Arabic, everything? Everything. Wow, like all the things you mix together. Yes. And embroidery?

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  Yes.

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  I love the way you embroider. Tell me more about this kind of thing.

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  Embroidery is done by the kikha. ...employed as a...

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  Yeah, she is one of a kind. ...one of a kind. It's a piece of art.

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  It's one of a kind.

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  And if I buy a piece of yourself and I wear it on myself... Nobody can have it, it doesn't... Of course, but what is the status of the... The fabric on the body of somebody, you know?

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  I think that you are one of them.

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  You're a piece of stuff? Yes. In your...

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  by yourself? Yes, everybody is a piece of stuff.

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  I love that. I've been walking in the laboratory for a long time now and it's so fresh.

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  Yeah,

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  because you cannot, I don't know, maybe... In operation order, what people...

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  Yeah, for sure,

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  for sure. It's amazing. And what is your, what do you, you know, where do you take your inspiration?

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  By many people?

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  By what? By God You really? You believe? You believe in God? Really? That's pretty good

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  And you have faith?

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  You have faith? What is that inside of you? It makes you black. Really? What is the relation with him? Even when you were young you were very... No No,

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  no Nothing, I don't know About me, any...

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  The place in your life? I think so It arrived?

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  Yes

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  Like a... Yeah. Wow. You don't know? Do you do cinema also? I don't know. I'm related with my... You're not? Yes,

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  I'm related with my private life.

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  And you're not at all communitary? No. Not at all? No,

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  I'm not very...

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  Hello, Namaskar. What's the nature? Really? Okay.

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  It's in the opportunity, that in the beginning, the opportunity must be allowed to us to get out of our beautiful... Yeah. ...dead person. And tell me, you are... It's not gender,

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  no? No, no,

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  no. It's not gender.

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  It's not gender. I think everybody look at you generously, right? Everybody can wear it. And it means you the world. Why?

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  Because it's freedom. We are free.

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  To love anybody and to love anything.

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  To be ourselves. Regardless of what everyone says.

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  You've known this in life or you've always been like that?

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  I know. You never always been like this. You grew up and every time it gives you changes to improve and to get knowledge and to become better. I'm very confident about my spirit not to turn away. Yeah.

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  And what is the progression for you? You know, the quest of progression.

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  Please.

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  To live. I love it.

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  But to live.

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  Just to live. For other people? Only for you.

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  For me no.

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  So, it's not a question to live and it's not difficult to live. No,

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  it's not difficult to live but to remember to live.

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  To remember how life is about.

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  No, to remember to live. I remember to live every day.

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  To live. To remember to live.

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  Remember that you are alive and everything has to be alive through that. So I remember to live everything that I'm living.

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  Tell me, what is still alive, still alive in your work?

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  Beauty.

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  And what is the definition of feminity?

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  What is the definition of feminity? Ehh...Bird.

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  Bird. Do you like femininity?

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  Yes, very much.

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  What do you like in femininity? What inspires you in femininity?

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  The only creature in the world who can create life.

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  Yes. And when you create, you don't think about women and... It's genderless, but...

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  But it's always very feminine.

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  Yes, it's always very feminine. Why?

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  Because you're a person.

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  And? Please.

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  There is emotion, there is birth, there is beauty.

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  Poetry? Yes. I think your work is so poetic. Do you like this work for you? What is poetry for you?

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  beautiful music. Yes. It calms me, relaxes me.

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  And the essential work is... You would like to work doing poetry.

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  I would like my work to be my work and whatever it does for you. I do my best to make sure you can tell me what I'm saying. I'm happy to hear that. I believe you can tell me what you think.

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  I'm sure about that. Just to be, to end,

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  what is your quest? I think it's a good one, just to take my time to do what I want to do, to create whatever I want to create, and to be respectful to humanity and to be inspiring. Yeah There is no place to join you,

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  I don't get to join you unless you arrive at your own And we are all needed to the moment We all seem the moment We are all We are all We are all the moment, every moment is a moment Yeah,

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  but we are very close to the moment of life No No No No No No No No No No I think it's a... I hope it will be long and beautiful always Yeah

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  And are you happy with your work today?

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  Yes.

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  And are you telling me what is your pride? Even if you are already a law.

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  My pride is to become me against every oath that I ever did. Go on with that. My pride is to be me against every oath that I ever did. Oh.

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  What does that mean?

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  It means that I will never give up because I arrive where I am and I will against every hope that I will have. Okay. I would really appreciate it.

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  It's beautiful in France. And it's beautiful.

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  It's valuable. Yeah. Really.

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  You're cheap, honestly.

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  Without honesty, honestly. Always. And you're...

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  A lot of people don't want to be cheap.

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  And you're afraid of listening. I'm afraid very much, yeah. You're afraid of it.

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  Very afraid.

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  You feel that inside of you.

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  It's beautiful. Yes,

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  because I think a lot of people don't need so much attention.

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  When you speak about honesty, you drive them by honesty. When you create, it's your value. What happens when we are driven by honesty? What happens with creation?

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  When we are driven by honesty, we find ourselves and our self-allowed and know that society wants us.

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  Okay, and I want one word to finish. What all the creation you make, what all your creation tell about you? What will tell about you?

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  You know if you want to see what I am, you have to look at my...

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  Yeah. What is shouting? Freedom. Freedom. Yeah. Thank you so much. I'm so happy to meet you. Thank you very much.