This week we invite Dr. Robin Arnall, Ph.D., BCBA-D, LBA, and Alexandra Vassar, MS, BCBA, COBA, NCLBA into the room for a massive discussion. Well, not the literal room because we all want virtual work as an accommodation. Robin and Alexandra join us to discuss work in the field of Applied Behavior Analysis and the controversies over power, control, systems, and consent that come along with being neurodivergent in this space. There are numerous tangents, a few sensitive subjects, lots of laughs, and even some tears. There are also a number of apologies from Christy who seems intent on offending everyone she has ever met in this discussion--if she doesn't apologize to you in this episode, stay tuned for Part 2! Please click this link to find the transcript for this podcast: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12as-oLcCiE3RQPnqDKxKnNcDmsYZZJdwTUjLX7fQmDw/edit?usp=sharing Guests on this episode:Dr. Robin Arnall (https://www.linkedin.com/in/robin-arnall-ph-d-she-her-6152735b/)(ResearchGate (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Robin-Arnall) page)Alexandra Vassar (https://www.linkedin.com/in/aelfers/) (Elfers) (ResearchGate (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alexandra-Vassar-2) page)If you are interested in joining GAIN or learning more, fill out this Google form: https://forms.gle/CoivXmAyWULYutjH6 We would love to hear from you! If you are comfortable doing so, please fill out this anonymous survey here to give feedback about this episode: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdxho3U0apY496UgysftBUmMioUpcVkImdNoYirYCalaPqKKw/viewform?usp=sf_link If you would like to contact us directly, please email at disabilitytangent@gmail.com (mailto:disabilitytangent@gmail.com) Time Stamps:06:13- Russell Sage College (https://www.sage.edu)06:20- The Chicago School (https://www.thechicagoschool.edu/learn/chicago-il/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=tcspp_chicago_brand_campaign&src=g.search&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwgdayBhBQEiwAXhMxtid1Lyo1f9RVfUD5Vg3I1qNpkIh1GHVWCCUZ34QV_tdr1QJF6kh6ERoC9AUQAvD_BwE)06:20 - ABA = Applied Behavior Analysis (https://www.abainternational.org/about-us/behavior-analysis.aspx)14:08 - Chemical Restraint (https://autisticadvocacy.org/2011/12/speak-out-against-chemical-restraint/)19:32 - The Black Panthers (https://disabilityhistory.org/2021/12/19/the-504-protests-and-the-black-panther-party/)20:25 - Section 504 (https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/504faq.html)19:56 - WIC Program (https://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/benefits-services)20:40 - Crip Camp Documentary (https://cripcamp.com/)22:25 - Buckminster Fuller (https://www.britannica.com/biography/R-Buckminster-Fuller)26:36 - APA apology letter (https://www.apa.org/about/policy/racism-apology) 35:02 - EMT (https://www.nremt.org/EMT/Certification)(Emergency Medical Technician - Medical Professionals who work on an Ambulance)40:35 - ACEs (https://www.cdc.gov/aces/about/index.html) (Adverse Childhood Experiences)42:58 - ACT (https://contextualscience.org/act)(Acceptance and Commitment Therapy/Training)44:15 - The Program (https://www.netflix.com/title/81579761) (a Netflix documentary)52:25 - DisCrit (https://neurodiversity-engineering.media.uconn.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/3154/2022/06/Dis-ability-critical-race-studies-DisCrit-theorizing-at-the-intersections-of-race-and-dis-ability.pdf) (Disability Critical Race Theory) 1:01:22 - FMLA (https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/benefits-leave/fmla)(Family and Medical Leave Act)1:06:54 - “Masking (https://www.inclusionhub.com/articles/what-is-neurodivergent-masking-why-do-professionals-do-it)”1:08:24 - Elephant Metaphor (https://medium.com/illumination-curated/the-proper-way-to-eat-an-elephant-cac554cd266) [in reference to cultural change]1:09:00 - Empowering Autonomy: A Skills Assessment Protocol (https://www.sixthandcenterpublishing.com/product-page/empowering-autonomy-a-skills-assessment-protocol)1:10:05 - Unwinnable leadership game (A variation of the “Privilege Walk (https://miro.com/miroverse/the-privilege-walk-game/)” activity) 1:15:27 - Code Switch (https://www.britannica.com/topic/code-switching)(A GREAT Podcast called Code Switch (https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510312/codeswitch) targets these topics in a variety of communities)Listen on:Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/2ajgOs5PJZD2gbs951o6ZVApple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-disability-tangent/id1733954513 Deezer - https://www.deezer.com/show/1000729662Podcast Addict - https://podcastaddict.com/podcast/the-disability-tangent/4988988Amazon Music - https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d24059fe-fcef-4f80-bf92-1d539753d05aPodChaser - https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-5640635ListenNotes - https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-disability-tangent-christy-bloemendaal-WMeiT2B49Ho/Podcast Index - https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6816146