Speaker #0hello everyone and welcome to the concession stand here on the kb radio network i am your host kevin reed and this is the spoiler review spoilers everybody uh of spider-man brave new day i will be discussing this like we sat next to each other at the theater uh experiencing it for the first time. If you haven't seen the film, don't want to be spoiled, you can listen to my non-spoiler review that is currently up right now. But if you have seen the film or you just flat out don't care and want to know everything that happened in Spider-Man Brave New Day, welcome, welcome. We're going to dive in to Marvel's latest addition to the MCU, their 38th film in... the mcu and the fourth film in the mcu spider-man films that stars tom holland he yet again returns as our favorite friendly neighborhood spider-man as well as zendaya and uh jacob battle on uh joining them this go around for spider-man brave new day you have sadie sink as jean gray yes spoilers like I said she is jean gray also uh frank castle portrayed by the great john bernthal uh mark ruffalo as bruce banner the hawk also florence pugh is in this film reprising her role as elena or black widow the new avenger herself and this go around peter he is protecting new york city as spider-man i was about to say superman but spider-man and he investigates a powerful new threat while his superpowers undergo a surprising and potentially dangerous evolution um if you listen to my non-spoiler review you know that i enjoyed this movie i thought it was a well put together film probably dragged a little bit that i thought in that initial viewing. but i went and saw it again i wanted to see it again before i did the spoiler review so i can really appreciate everything and really give my honest opinion of it and i'm here to tell you straight off the bat that it didn't change for me it changed in the second viewing i thought that as much as i enjoyed it the first time and i thought it was one of the best better spider-man films. That didn't change as far as my view. I think it's even better than I thought. I really believe that this is probably the best Spider-Man film ever. Not just in the MCU with Tom Holland. I'm including Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire films as well. This film is so deep in Peter Parker's emotions. Going into his psyche, if you will, you know, the burden of carrying the responsibilities of being Spider-Man and the loneliness he feels or feel that he has to be in order to be an effective Spider-Man and shielding himself off from loved ones, friends and connections outside of this superhero world. because... the fear of losing someone because he lost aunt may in spider-man no way home you know just in the previous film and that was a result of him being spider-man and he can't it's hard for him to shake that grief and feel responsible for her passing so it's a it's a journey for him and then on you put on top of that making everyone forget who he is you know losing his best friend ned losing the love of his life in mj pretty much abandoning his dream of going to mit with his friends all that was dashed away you know in order to preserve this moniker of spider-man and this is the aftermath of that decision and what i respect about this movie far far more than anything that i've seen on the screen was the fact that you know we never really think about happily ever after we never think about when the credits roll after a movie you know once that story is told we feel good i mean we all left the theater feeling good after no way home despite the fact that at the end of that film uh dr strange performed the spell and everybody forgot who he was and all this other good stuff but he was still spider-man he was still off to save New York City and it was a feel-good moment at the end and and it seemed like everything was right that he made the right decision ultimately he did but there were consequences no good deed goes unpunished and this was that brand new day was precisely that seeing the ramifications of that movie of everything that took place i think that was a bold choice to go in that direction. and it completely caught me off guard to be honest with you even though i mean we all saw no way home and we all know what took place but i wasn't really expecting for this movie to dive so deep into that burden brand new day in case uh you was wondering or didn't know that there was a a run there was a comic book run storyline entitled brand new day and if you think this is loosely based on that you're sadly mistaken that it is not based on it all only thing that spider-man brand brand new day the film has with the comic storyline is the name that's it that's the only similarities that you find in the comic book uh i believe him and mj got married in that storyline And... Aunt May is still alive. It was something else going on, too. I can't remember. I think the superhero act, the Accords, something like this. I'm blanking on the name. But the Sokovia Accords took place, and it was called something else in the comics. But, yeah, all that was going on in that comic run. And so this was a different story. And I'm all for it. As I mentioned in the lead up, the big bugaboo, the big hitting detail in the marketing leading up to this film was Sadie Sink's character. It was the mystery, even though it wasn't a mystery for those in the know, but it was shrouded in mystery. That was the big secret of this film. And as I stated in my... non-spoiler review even though i didn't reveal anything in the non-spoiler review that reveal didn't have the impact in first viewing it didn't have the impact because i already knew i basically sat there waiting for the reveal you know i was waiting for them to say who she was and it took an hour to get to it in the movie that was in the first viewing a second viewing I felt it a little more. It kind of, because that burden was off me. I wasn't looking for that. I wasn't anticipating the reveal. I was just enjoying the show. I was going along for the ride, which I should have went along with in the first showing. But nonetheless, Sadie Sink as Jean Grey is picture perfect casting. Perfect casting for this character. One, she's young enough to whereas you can build the X-Men around her, you know, for years to come. She's young enough for that at the perfect age. I think Sadie Sink is what in maybe 20, Maybe maybe deep in a 20. I don't know how she might be mid 20s. I'm still thinking Stranger Things time like she's a teenager. But I think she's like 20. 425 something like that but any who's perfect age perfect age and perfect actress and her performance in this film was was spot on to me i i enjoyed her as jean gray because even though she was doing some messed up stuff in the movie uh and i say messed up like inhabiting other people's bodies and stuff she wasn't hurting anybody or she wasn't really trying to hurt anybody. You know, she still kept or they managed to keep her character safe you know in regards of she's a hero she is a x-men at the end of the day or will become one in the mcu and sadie sink held it down she held it down man i mean for her to embrace that power at the end and i mean she this is her without the phoenix force people this is her not even at her peak and she basically froze new york city or at least half of new york city like it was nothing when she finally broke free when they finally pushed that button at the uh department of damage control it was phenomenal that scene at the end when she when it was revealed that her sister had died uh speaking of her sister i don't know because i was asked this after we left out the theater if she had a sister in the comics i'm not 100 certain i don't think so i think that was created for the movie but i could be wrong but i could be wrong but i i don't think maybe i don't know if she played a big part in the comics or not but i don't remember i don't recall i'll just say that anyways uh it is it doesn't matter at the end of the day it didn't matter but i i did like that element of it um another standout big standout was john berenthal john berenthal as the punisher he is he was born for that role he was born to be frank castle he is frank castle when i when i you know oddly enough this past week the punisher came on tv and i'm not not john berenthal's not ray stevenson god rest his soul not not warzone but the thomas jane one the very first one well not the very first one because dolph lundgren played the punisher in the 80s but don't worry about the disregard that the one with uh thomas jane that came out i will say about 20 years ago or so and it was it wasn't all that good but what it did i did like thomas jane as the punisher anyway i'm going on this tangent but but i was watching that film Thomas Jane did a really good job as the Punisher. This is the point I'm trying to get at. I actually liked him as the Punisher, but the movie was trash. And I didn't like how his character was in the movie. It wasn't Punisher. It was just a guy looking for vengeance or justice. Ray Stevenson was the closest one to get to it, but yet again, the movie was trash. And so when we get to the Netflix series with Jon Bernthal and... He just embodied the role, you know, being this soldier with PTSD and his family being murdered and stuff like that. And he dove headfirst into the role. I thought he couldn't get any better. One last kill that came out on Disney Plus, what, last month? I thought that was really good. I thought his portrayal looked like he took it to another level on that. No, he took it to another level here. and he wasn't going around killing people as much or he was trying to kill a lot of people spider-man was getting in his way uh literally and he didn't have to in order for you to feel that he was the punisher and that was my concern a little i was a little concerned when they said that he was going to be in spider-man brand new day i'm like well how is that going to work you know how are we going to put this hard r character in a pg-13 world and expect this to work he must not going to be in it long well he's in it a lot he's i would say he's like the co-star almost you know this isn't a cameo he was in it a while half the movie maybe i i mean he was he was there him alongside of tom holland which great chemistry between those two you they're actual they're real life friends um off screen they are real life friends and you could tell when they on screen together their chemistry is perfect but uh he fit into this world and they found a way to keep him true to his character yet in this pg-13 world you know i thought that was great you know great job by dustin granule daniel cretin directing this film and the writers for writing the film as well but more importantly uh john berenthal for for taking everything and displaying it through his performance i i enjoyed him more almost more than anything in this movie i i really i really don't have a problem with any performance in this film with the exception of one and it's not the performance it's not the actress it's not even the character i just felt they didn't fit in this movie it well not fit in the movie but really served no purpose and that was florence pew florence pew as black widow she was just there to be there it was like she was there to connect spider-man to the rest of the mcu which which is mind-boggling to me because everything going around in this movie It's a connection to the MCU. So you didn't need to kind of shoehorn in Florence Pugh just to say that, hey, the new Avengers are around. Okay, that's fine. But why? You know, why would she? The way they used her. It was a way you could have used her where it would have been more effective. You know? And not take away from Spider-Man's shine. Not take away from anybody else's shine. I get that you want to throw in these characters to kind of make the world bigger, but you really didn't need her here. You didn't need her character here. And the way they used her was more for comedic purposes in this here. That's the part I didn't really appreciate. You know, it was a useless cameo. That was really a cameo. Not the Jon Bernthal, not even Mark Ruffalo, but it was the Florence Pugh. being in it for what two scenes and one she's in a tub and the other one she's sitting next to the tub it was it was silly now she was in the new avengers tower or something like that and you see sentry in the background or or red guardian walking around or something like that okay now it feels like we're in this world it didn't feel like it with her character being there but That's me. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm looking at it wrong. But like I said, I've seen the movie twice and I felt the same way the second time I watched it. I'm really actually I felt it more the second time I watched it. Like this is this was useless. It really didn't need to have her in there. But like I said, that maybe it's just me. In my non-spoiler review, I stated that my biggest bugaboo was the fact that the movie was long. And I don't mind long movies, but it just took a long time to get to the meat of the issue. Well, I don't know. I must have been drunk or loaded or something when I watched it the first time because it didn't bother me this time. Nothing bothered me. Actually, I think the pacing was perfect. I thought it was perfect pacing. I thought that everything that was going on in the beginning of the film fit the movie and needed to work the way it. It did, you know, bouncing back and forth with Peter. Peter's struggles and Spider-Man's struggles. You know, that was basically the start of this first act. It was well directed. I apologize for that. I apologize for putting that out there in the universe. That first part of this movie was draggy. It wasn't. It truly wasn't. It was really, really... well thought out well put together and well paced and my apologies for giving false reporting on that one but that was really really uh good and once the story really ramped up the movie didn't really ramp up that's more of a cliche you know that you say during reviews and given descriptions of films no it it ramps up from the word go whether it's the action or the emotion it's always present always present throughout the film and one thing that i noted in the non-spoiler review that i'm gonna touch in here is the presence of new york city now i could tell that is not actual new york city but it felt like new york city you know that you could tell that they shot this somewhere else on a stage or whatever but it felt so uh claustrophobic i think um because i can't think of any other adjective to put through on that because it just felt lived in it felt he felt caged into this city and that's the first time i felt that way in any spider-man movie no matter if it was street level or or global it this version of spider-man is the most street level grounded spider-man movie ever and at his core that's who spider-man is he is a street level hero not fighting thanos not fighting aliens and and all that good stuff which he does in the comics but i mean the main stories of spider-man that we followed if you're a follower of the comics is him with these street level villains like tombstone that pops up in this film. like a boomerang that pops up in this film tarantula that's in this film and it's quick and all that's in the trailer that that's not even spoilers that all that everything that you see of these characters are in the trailer that that was more of a montage series that happened in the film i thought that was funny and interesting too you know we didn't have to see long dragged out fights with him in tombstone or him with tarantula tarantula and all this other good stuff we need to see all you know it would have been nice don't get me wrong i would have enjoyed it but the way they did it the way they used it perfect perfect we know that their presence is there we know that there are villains uh those villains are present in the mcu in this new york city where spider-man is protecting and so i give him a thumbs up with Dead. Now, the little mutation that Spider-Man is going through in this film, this was weird. Now, I'm still feeling a little weird about it. And watching it again, I'm still a little thrown off by it. But I get what they were trying to do. I get the messaging here. I get the story that they're telling here with his mutation, with this little spider puberty that he's going through. you know it all makes sense theoretically i i just well let me say this this is a personal thing this is not a uh comics canning canon uh uh real revelation type deal that's gonna uh impact the mcu as a total that's not the thing that this is a personal thing for me And so take it with a grain of salt. But I'm going to mention it because maybe somebody feels the exact same way. The web thing, the web's coming out of his wrist. I am not a fan of that. Now, as much as I love Tobey Maguire and love those three films he was in, well, two and a half films that he was in, I can't, I cannot. express my dismay for the organic web shooters i hated that and the reason i hate it is because reading the comics growing up my biggest joy was always watching spider-man swinging and he runs out of web fluid he runs out of cartridges and it was it was fun to see him try to figure it out or panic when he's mid swing you and he runs out you know because he doesn't have any more cartridges it was just a fun element to the character that i enjoyed growing up reading in the comic books that's me and so when you give them organic webs that's not even an issue they tried to pull that bullcrap in spider-man 3 with toby mcguire where he was going through this not three part two when he was going through this uh existential crisis type deal where you know his webs wouldn't come out and all this other foolishness i didn't buy that then so it didn't have this because it didn't have the same impact it didn't have that same feel and now you done took this away from tom holland's spider-man now he has the organic webs and i'm i'm sitting there like why why the webs weren't doing you nothing why why are we doing this why now is that gonna cause me to hate the character now no no i just wish they wouldn't have did it that's all i'm that's all i'm saying i went i went through this whole thing just to say i wish they wouldn't have did it that's that's all but that's fine tom holland balances it out and that's the one thing i want to kind of lead in and kind of end this review on is tom holland well no i'm lying that's not going to end the review because i have a lot more to say as well uh tom holland gave his best performance as peter parker spider-man i think tom holland i said this in a non-spoiler so this is in the uh a new revelation here i think he's the best spider-man is he my favorite spider-man live action spider-man i'm still debating on that it depends on what day you ask me because i love all three i love toby mcguire i love Andrew Groff, Phil, I wish he would have got a... a righteous chance to really display it because i think honestly i think andrew garfield was the perfect peter parker he just was in the wrong movies but he didn't get the chance he didn't get the chance to really stretch his wings that's my opinion but tom holland has been great he has been great as peter parker at least as the high school kid peter parker and we fast forward now to brand new day and this is an adult peter parker we have grown up there's no more house high school there's no more aunt may there's nothing there's nothing kiddy about what's going on with him it is his adult situations that he's going through everything is an adult theme and tom holland grew up now tom holland ain't ain't a kid no more i mean he's married now in real life to cindy and so he is a grown man and he brought the grown man energy into peter parker and man i'm telling you you want to talk about in a phenomenal acting job as peter parker this is him with a mask on do you know even when he when he took the mask off it was worse because you can see his expressions now you can see the water welling up in his eyes you can see the teardrop you can see his mouth uh twerk when he when he hears something bad you know the the gob of spit in his throat that he has to swallow back down when something is gut-wrenching that scene with him and zendaya on uh frank Castles boat when she reveals to him that i don't remember after he finally tells her he loves her and you see the enlightenment on his face when he tells that's why i'm like man this is so perfect i'm not gonna tell you where a lot of people i cried i'm gonna tell you now i cried in that not boohoo and crying but tears ran down my face it was it was that deep he he finally told her that he loved and for Zendaya as MJ. to tell him that look the spell worked whatever you did worked because i don't remember you and i don't love you and the way she performed it this is zendaya once again gave her best performance her best as mj because she didn't tell him in a malicious evil way like i don't know you you know she didn't go there it was so it was so caring the way she broke it down to him because she knew he was telling the truth he she believed every word that came out of his mouth and she felt it but not in that way and the way that she just just performed this scene was so it was a caring way that she really tore his heart out she didn't she didn't uh so soft you know she didn't just rip it out she had her gloves on she she just went in his chest like oh i'm sorry wait okay i got it now and then just gently pulled it out of his chest she didn't just rip it out and did it make a difference no because tom harlan when she dropped that bomb and you just saw his face and he was trying to you could see he's trying to hold it together you know not really show nothing but he can't help it because this one he loves mj And so many things, I can just see it rolling through it. My spidey senses were tingling because I can see what was going on in his head. You know, this is my fault. I see why she don't. You know, all that stuff. I mean, just heartbreaking. It was heartbreaking. That's why I cried. Because. you're not mad normally when you see that on a film or experience it in real life present company included when you experience that it is far different you know and it's played in a way where the the one telling breaking that news is saying it in a malicious way meant to hurt you or, you know, just... nothing good nothing good just evil just an evil way this wasn't an evil way it was a sweet way you know to say no you know oh man it was heartbreaking it was so heartbreaking that scene tore me up honest to god another scene that tore me up was uh sadie sink when she was captured by damage control and she's in that room and after hunting this v max the entire film trying to trying to get down to the bottom of it trying to find her sister after going through these experiments and she looks up and she sees that label on the vent and it's halfway peeled off and it's it's saying v max and the revelation that oh oh her sister was here oh that was the last thing her sister saw that's why she felt it and sadie sink bro sadie sink at that moment as gene gray realizing that and just coming to coming to grips with the fact that you killed my sister and she unleashed the beast at this is is a blessing from god above that the phoenix force wasn't with her dead because everybody would have been dead everybody would have been just wiped off of planet earth and so it it was it was a blessing from God but she unleashed her power And just took control of everything. And it was, man, I was scared. That was the first time in live action that I was scared of Jean Grey. And we've seen, what, two different versions of Jean Grey in multiple films? This was the first time I was scared of Jean Grey. That's why I feel that Sadie Sink was perfectly cast as this role, or in this role as Jean Grey. because if they're going to build the mcu x-men saga around her that tells me that we are heading towards the dark phoenix saga now i know what i know what everybody said because i just heard it through my microphone uh the collective oh god again i i know i know we didn't got two versions of the dark phoenix and in live action and both of them sucked i know i get it but no disrespect to fonka jenkinson no disrespect to sophie turner those two actresses they are not they they wasn't ready for prime time they weren't ready for that and sadly 20th century fox didn't know how to do it and uh the filmmakers didn't know how to do it properly i have a inkling of faith into kevin feige and marvel and everybody that's over there that's putting this together that they're going to do it justice so you need somebody who is capable of portraying that just just look back at sadie sink in stranger things that's the most popular thing that she had been in up to this point and look at her performance throughout that series Yeah, yeah. I mean, it makes sense. That's why it wasn't a surprise that that's who they cast her as, to me. But it makes sense because she can hold that down. She can really hold it down. I'm excited to see, moving forward, what we're going to do. And it was great to see her on that bus at the end of the movie. Looks like heading upstate, upstate New York. And we know what is upstate New York. The school for gifted children. And so we will see moving forward how we will experience Jean Grey in this bigger universe as a whole. The only thing I have left to say. and this may bother some people i must be honest that initially it kind of kind of took me back you know i was kind of taken aback by it there's no real villain in this movie there's no villain other than i guess you could say damage control but even them no they were more the antagonist they weren't the villain and there was no villain there was nobody that spider-man had to go fist the cuffs with at the end to save the world yeah he fought the hand and the hand the hand was great the great that was so comic booky it felt like a comic book come to life when spider-man took on a hand because the hand was moving just like the hand moved in the comic books that great that was great uh but uh Yeah, that's probably one quote-unquote knock I have on it, but that's not the story they were telling. Honestly, that's not the story that they were trying to display there on the big screen. It's not hero versus villain. This was more of an internal thing. It was more of a mental gymnastics that you're going through throughout this film, and I think that this was... probably the best spider-man film ever made and honestly sitting there at the end i was i'm putting it up there top 10 comic book movies ever made straight up straight up uh i can't i can't find too many flaws with this movie even though i found a couple in my first viewing those were quickly dashed away in my second this was perfect this was a perfect spider-man movie loved it loved every minute of it i'm going to see it again for a third time and before we get out of here since it's the spoiler review let's talk about that post-credit scene um in my theater in both viewings in both viewings uh the uh the fan the early screening um that took place and this previous one Both times, the audience were pissed off because they didn't know what was going on. Me, on the other hand, and I found it kind of odd because the first time I was sitting next to a fellow geek and I would have assumed he would have figured it out. Now, that's not to say that what I think it is, is is scripture. But just the only logical thing that can pop up in my mind. with the spidey tracker went off and it indicated that spider-man was on a different world or maybe a different uh dimension or different universe you know galaxy or whatever my immediate immediate thought was battle world we are heading towards secret wars avengers right we getting we're Getting Doomsday in December. we're getting secret wars next year in case you don't know what secret wars is this is after the occur incursions this is after all the universes collided to one another and dr doom has set up this battle world and the whole purpose of battle world is for the heroes from these different universes or dimensions to battle it out and the winner of this battle or these battles will their universe will reign supreme they that will be the official universe and so that was the whole purpose of battle world so i'm assuming that's what secret wars is going to be all about of course well not much of an assumption assumption because you you see in doomsday if you look in the trailers how the x-men the the fox x-men are fighting you know The New Avengers and all this other stuff. Gambit and Shang-Chi and all this other stuff. Like, okay, this is all, this is a precursor to Battleworld. That's what I think the post-credits scene is setting up. Now, I don't know why they did it so early, but I think... the uh initial plan the the initial layout was for doomsday to come out and then spider-man brand new day and then secret wars i believe that's how it was so scheduled to come out but things got pushed back and this that and the third that's how spider-man brand new day was released before doomsday and so i think that's what probably threw it off so with Knowing that knowledge, that's probably where we're going to see Spider-Man again in Secret Wars. Don't look for him in Doomsday. He don't need to be in Doomsday. Honestly, I don't want him in Doomsday. It's too early. I've just seen him. Let me soak on this for another year or so. I'll be super happy with that. But this was an awesome film. I felt that this film literally... brought the comics to life it felt like a comic book it felt like a spider-man comic book come to life i got the same feeling as 12 13 year old kevin sitting down reading these comics and especially spider-man who is my second favorite comic book character of all time uh in case you don't know number one is batman but uh spider-man is a close and i mean close second um it it it really brought back memories it was a nostalgia trick uh trip for me just just in the sense of it just felt so lived in as far as the uh comic book is concerned you know we got large portions of this movie where he's solely in the mass even when he met up with elena in that bath house and had to get in the bathtub with her I'm sorry. he still had on the mask you know it is it's so true to the comics uh that character you know the whips and the the the uh the flailing around and his fighting style and everything associated with spider-man was was present in this movie and the emotion and the grown-up nature of it like this isn't this is not homecoming this is not far from home or no way home we have grown past that and this is super adult and i appreciate every single second of it spider-man brand new day gets a letter grade of an eight yeah yeah it improved people it improved i gave it a b minus in or was it a B+. I gave it a B+. In the non-spoiler review. Nah. isn't it isn't it awesome awesome awesome movie but that's just one man's opinion i would love to know what did you think of spider-man brand new day did you enjoy it do you think is one of the best do you think is one of the worst or do you think is i'd love to know your thoughts subscribe to the kbradionetwork.com website where you can be notified on all episodes dropping and previous episodes that are currently available. Don't forget about YouTube. Subscribe to the KB Radio Network channel. And like this video while you're there. Don't forget about the five stars, the reviews, and sharing this show. If you're listening on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeartRadio, wherever, you are currently listening to The Concession Stand here on the KB Radio Network. Everybody, thank you for joining me for this spoiler review of Spider-Man Brand New Date. Want you all to know that I love you. Continue to love everyone. 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