Speaker #0Hello everyone and welcome to the concession stand here on the KB Radio Network. I am your host Kevin Reed and welcome to the review of the season finale to Marvel Television's Vision Quest Episode 8 entitled Forever. This is the conclusion to the, I guess the first season. will we get a second season i don't know but if they just leave it as it is i'm cool with that if we continue on i'll be cool with that as well uh let me just say let me just say going uh from this point on we're talking spoilers i it should it should go without saying but there's a major major spoiler uh leading into doomsday that we're going to discuss there's no way around it if there's no tiptoeing around it there's no sugar coating it we're going to talk about it and so spoilers if you haven't watched the final episode of vision quest i implore you go check it out and then come back and listen to the recap and review uh so you've been warned i'm letting you know we're gonna break down the entire episode and the end of this episode uh like i said this was the season finale i don't know if it was the series finale if we're uh wrapping it all up we'll see episode eight begins uh well it picks up where we left off last episode with with the cliffhanger where vision and uh jocasta were turned over to the client and the client come to find out is the grandson of phineas horton and he uh he wants that code he and he has reasons for not only the code but vision's vessel his body and so we're gonna go over that as well but we pick up where vision is being powered back on he's holding a pitcher of tea and jacosta she is uh setting the table as they're working as servants in this giant mansion that we know uh from the flashback episode i think yeah that was last week's episode when uh that's phineas horton's old mansion that he sold off to continue his work to uh build jim and so his grandson who we find out his name virgil he bought the mansion back after they sold the code uh that joe costa or joe had created uh to tony stark So he used that money to buy back his mansion, family mansion, and his birthright to a degree. And so the man who looks like Ultron, we found out why he looks like Ultron, because Ultron's coding comes from Virgil. And that's the basis for all the AI on this series, that they're based off of real people. Ultron is based off... of him so he is uh using a tablet to control both of them and he orders vision to cut the meat and direct jocasa to sit with him and neither of them can speak until he activates their voice setting which initially man functions and they just started laughing uh which was cool little scene there uh where he was trying to figure out the remote Yeah. the remote control for the television if you will vision he addressed him as ultron once he's able to get his vocal uh settings uh straight but jocasta clarifies that that's not ultron and the man explains that ultron simply just looks like him noting that the remnants of both of him and joe exists within the source code of all the ais you So he points out that the real Ultron is sitting on the other side of the table inside of this little, I guess, power box thing that he snatched out of Jocasta's consciousness, if you will. And so he placed it into a drive and muted it. And so Vision asks about Friday because Friday was in there as well. And Virgil tells him like, and there was no other ai present so automatically they assumed that uh ultron killed Friday. So the man briefly unmutes Ultron and he immediately starts trash talking the man and he gets muted again. And Vision demands to know who he is. And Jocasta identifies him as indeed Virgil, who is Joe's husband in the past. And he's a descendant of Phineas Horton. Meanwhile, you have Tommy and Lisa there. continuing their viewing of WandaVision to piece together how Tommy became Thomas. And Tommy realized that Billy somehow saved him when Wanda shut down the hex by transferring Tommy's consciousness into Thomas' body, if that's not confusing. But that's how it all came to be. And so he's determined to contact his brother. to find his brother so tommy gets into the bathtub and uh in a in a scene that's very reminiscent of the keanu reeves uh constantine movie from what about 15 years ago when he had to drown himself or was it no it was rachel vice uh character that they had to drown in order to go to hell and communicate with her sister so it was basically the same thing here uh he had to recreate that moment when he when his conscience entered the body of thomas so he begins to drown himself to connect with billy and it triggers divisions of his past near-death experience he enters this new little realm and he approaches a door opens it and who's standing on the other side none other than his brother, Billy, the same actor who portrayed him in... akatha all along and the two unite they embrace uh billy shares that he's been practicing his magic and trying to track down tommy uh though he he is difficult until he saw him the night before in the vision so tommy tells billy that speaking of visions vision uh he's alive still he's still here And he explains that he needs his help. But he's beginning to run out of air, him being Tommy, drowning himself. So the connection is starting to disconnect. And he just couldn't stay any longer. And going to find out that Billy is still in New Jersey. And he's like, how can I get there? And so Billy, he starts speaking. off screen to somebody that tommy doesn't know who he's talking to and tommy's like oh you got an imaginary friend too because he's he's been dealing with vision talking to the other ais throughout this whole series and now here we are billy is doing the same thing but everybody knows that he's actually talking to agatha because that's who he is with uh at least at the end of agatha all along and he mentions porters But he admits that he's not yet skilled enough to make them. So Tommy wakes up and he tells Lisa that they're on their own. And soon after, a drone locates him. And Lisa is somehow able to sense it, you know, being as though she was affected with that nanobot. And I guess remnants of it is still there. And we discovered that it was that the drone is being operated by Dummy and you. So that's how that little segment ends. I'll say this about this section of the show of this episode this is the one part of this episode I did not like and it wasn't because of the writing or the acting or anything like that I just didn't care for it but you know I wanted a bigger reunion they kind of just blazed through the reunion of Billy and Tommy because that's a big thing you know what I'm saying that's a thing and especially for billy you know if you watched agatha all along that was a big thing and you know that was his main driving force oh in that series and they met they hugged and that was that you know that was that tommy was on to the next thing he didn't he could care less he like we gotta save this vision and i'm like okay this is not it just didn't have that pop it didn't draw me in right now. there but it was good to finally see the characters on screen together i will say that much uh I just wish it would have had more of an emotional impact than it did. So we go back to the mansion and Virgil, he starts to explain his motivations. He recounts the disgrace brought upon his family due to his grandfather's actions, you know, leaving his mother penniless and so on and so selling the mansion and all this other good stuff. So after finding his grandfather's journal that we saw in that. in that uh flashback that his mother virgil's mother who is phineas daughter when they came in to talk to him that time that she took the journal out of the office so she had that journal and virgil found the journal and he decided to finish his work and get rich and the goal it was a goal uh joel uh uh made possible you know with her innovations in ai so together virgil and joe they map their own minds to create the ai which virgil sold to tony stark to reclaim what was taken from his family like i mentioned earlier so having perfected the artificial mind virgil he uh views vision as the ultimate vessel so he He wants to place his mind in that vessel. Meanwhile, you have Edith. She tracks down Paladin and conventions him to go and help out Vision. And he decides to infiltrate Virgil's home, teaming up with Tommy, Lisa, and Dummy and you. It's so... They all get together and formulate a plan to storm the mansion. And so inside, Virgil reveals that he worked for S.H.I.E.L.D. Oh, not S.H.I.E.L.D., S.W.O.R.D. And he helped rebuild the Vision body and rebuild the mind while secretly taking part in constructing Jocasta, eventually deleting himself from her mind. Because he had made her too well in his explanation. And Vision realized that Virgil's plan was to transfer his mind into his body so that Virgil and Jocasta can live together forever. Virgil, he reveals that he has the nanobots. He's the last piece to that key to open up that chest full of the... I think they said 20 billion nanobots that was in there. And so it's enough to control every human being on planet Earth. And so Jocasta, she protested this, you know, that the nanobots weren't meant for this. It was meant to cure diseases. And Virgil admits that it was basically a joke that he told her that he just told her that to convince her to do this because his real goal, his true goal was to rule the world. So outside you have Paladin. He formulates a plan with Tommy to speed inside and shut down the security cameras and whatnot. And just then you have Virgil. He puts a, I don't know, some type of device on top of Vision's head to erase Vision from this vessel, from the body. this synthazoid body so he can put his consciousness in it i guess jocasta tells virgil that she already found a better version of him you know she and she looks over at the little uh drive that is holding ultron and so uh virgil he's like well look i know what i know will convince you we can do that dance we can dance like we used to and he plays rhinestone cowboy which is the oddest of choices but hey every couple have their thing i i guess theirs was rhinestone cowboy you know uh virgil he begins to dance and forces uh jocasta to dance with him due to the uh little tablet uh to control her so uh just then tommy he just dis uh ables the security system and that allows Lisa and Paladin to fight off the guards, Joe Costa. She steps on Virgil's toes and the music stops and Vision, he sense Tommy running at super speed around the room. Tommy, with his super speed, was able to knock over some salt and write hey dad on the table or hi dad on the table. And so we get that nice little scene. I thought that was a cool little transition. Nothing super elaborate. The way they slow down time, you know, to have Tommy just jog around the table. But in our speed, he'll be in super speed. But being as though Vision has this quantum processor, he can catch up to him and they can talk like normal in super speed. And so that was a cool little transition. Very subtle, very quaint, nothing super elaborate. I like that little scene. them having their discussion. It's odd when you have, you know, these little yield moments during high tension points throughout the show. They do that on this show throughout this whole season, but it was done in a very cool, unique way. And if you fully accept what you're watching, accept the fact that these are AI... beings you know that they're not moving at our speed and and really you know suspend disbelief you can get on board and have a heck of a good time with it and i really like this scene i don't know why but i just enjoyed it so much and even to the point where jocasta she came in you know because Tommy and Vision were arguing about shutting down the... the uh remote because he was like you just take the remote and do it and they're arguing back and forth and jocasta she comes in like look y'all calm down you know this vision isn't the only quantum processor in the room i can do this too i can see you too and so that was that was also cool and so uh they convinced tommy to take the remote he does breaks it uh vision and jocasta takes out the guards and Jocasta takes out Virgil as well by throwing him through the glass table but he managed to get a gun a blaster that can kill that can shoot through the centozoid bodies that they possess and he he essentially cripples Jocasta with these shots uh to the point where she does eventually die but before she's able to pass on to uh ai heaven she takes the drive that is holding ultron and throws it into the nanobot little caged area or whatever and boy i was like why did she do that so ultron uses this storm to construct a powerful new nanobody of himself and he calls himself a god of course and ultron kills Virgil by literally literally this was a brutal moment uh i don't think they ever got this gory throughout the series but this was the first i guess they saved it for this one he squeezed the life out of you can see the blood burst through his eyes and his mouth and it was it was it was gory man it was pretty gnarly but i hey i was all on board with it uh vision he watches like man ultron is he's stronger than ever now and ultron rushes to jocasta holds her as she dies trying to recover from that uh uh her her processors or whatever and she thanks him for letting her feel what what it meant to be real for the first time in a long time and she shuts down uh ultron not ultron but vision urges tommy to get up out of there you because he knows what's about to happen and so uh uh ultron now he's now he's mad now he's pissed off because jocasta died and he he reverts into that nano storm thing and he's feeling that humanity has taken everything from him now so he vows to finish what he started years ago and bring the end to humanity So Vision, he transforms into his new form, which is pretty much his classic look, and confronts him. And it was a father and son clash in hand-to-hand combat. In Vision, he struggles. I mean, he's a nano. I mean, Ultron is a nanobot construct now. There's nothing you can do, you know, physically to take down Ultron, you know? So it was kind of senseless. I thought that was kind of silly, but I get it because what else? what else could you do in that moment i mean he was like what can you do you gotta try to fight it some type of way i guess physically is one way so you have tommy he warns paladin and lisa that vision is in trouble uh ultron he delivers several devastating blows and he programs the nanobots to kill everyone in london and leaving only eight minutes before they reach the city with no override available so vision he begs him to reconsider okay at this point i was like okay how are we going to get through this moment how are we going to resolve this are we going to get a tommy not tommy billy satan and the only way they could stop because they couldn't do it through technology so at this point i was like okay magic they need magic to kind of to ring in these uh nanobots so i'm like okay billy's gonna show up now that's that that's what's going through my head didn't think we were going to get the resolution that we got and so you have uh tommy lisa and um paladin they rush inside vision tries to get edith to help but it is too late to stop this swarm the swarm had already left the mansion is heading towards london and so realizing ultron is trapped in his grief. just like Wanda was in Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness. Well, actually in WandaVision as well. Vision, he decides to try to reach out to him. And he instructs Eda to generate a television simulation to help Ultron see reason. And Vision approaches the storm. Ultron, he awakes on the set of WandaVision, now starring Vision. edith and ultron in this new series i guess you could say the sequel series uh ultra vision and i like okay okay i'm i'm with this you know a nice little call back to wandavision you know i like where they're heading it i like where their head is at so because time moves differently inside of the mindscape they could be trapped there for centuries you know by the time those nanobots reach. London. So Vision and Edith, they attempt to help Ultron process his grief through 499 episodes. And it was 499 failed attempts. So we get to episode 500 and Ultron, he hacks the simulation and brings fresh phrases in. It's just like a sitcom from the 80s and 90s when a show starts to get stale. you know it's not like today they'll cancel a show in a second you know when it starts to kind of peter off but back then they'll bring in a new face they'll bring in a cute little kid you know give the give the family a dog or something something to to kind of jump start the show that you get the show back on track and so he took that same approach here by adding a fresh cast to the show. Fresh cast being patterning. uh lisa and tommy all of whom who have been infected by the nano box in in real in the real world also dummy and you also affected by the nanobots uh so uh ultron he sends everybody to bed and he steps away to the to the bathroom and uh vision and edith they begin to panic at this point because like we can't get through to him it's no way to get through to him so suddenly there's a knock at the door it is none other than friday uh she's still alive uh come to find out ultron didn't kill her ultron actually saved her by kicking her out of jocasta's mind and so that's why virgil didn't find her there so that proves that he has mercy that Ultron does have a semblance of a heart so in the real world vision's core is failing and his power is almost depleted at this point so he's forced to speak to ultron alone and everybody else is pushed out of this episode of ultra vision and vision and ultron they confront their shared pain and i'm like okay we're gonna get a mark the moment i see that's the first thing ran across my mind i'm like man this is gonna be batman v superman uh we're gonna get oh how did you know that name i i really i was so scared at this moment because everything was going so good in this episode i did not want a martha moment i was literally praying for that and so ultron urges uh that you know grief is fear and if if loss feels like this death is a mercy. And so Vision He counters that love always leads to loss and nothing, nothing could be truer. That is so true. And this prompts Ultron to recall the phrase, a thing isn't beautiful because it lasts. And Vision reminds Ultron that he was the one that originally said that, assuring him that he was not alone. So Vision tells Ultron they may be, they may not be father and son. but he is his something. And, but before that, I skipped over before that. Ultron told him what set my mind at ease. He was like, you think you can call me dad and that's going to end it. You know, I mean, do you think I'm that naive? I thought that was a real good line. I'm like, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. Stay strong. And so, after, after that, After that little conversation, with that reassurance that he's not alone, the nanobots, they did reach London, and both Ultron and Vision's cores began to burn. Both of them were starting to burn up. So the explosions began to echo as Vision tells him that he couldn't process this alone. So ultimately, Ultron, he disbands the Swarm. and self-destructs the nanobots and uh this causes the nanobots to burn away harmlessly all over london and so vision falls unconscious as tommy and lisa uh wake up and paddling it they begin to wake up and uh tommy tries to jump start him like he did before in episode two i think it was and it was it was to no avail uh he starts to cry at this point because he can't he can't fix him he can't wake up vision and so as vision and ultron system begin to shut down ultron tells him well played well played son and vision calls him pops and i was like oh but in a good way i i really i really got choked up you know unlike martha unlike Like... unlike oh how did you know that name but that did that that was the most frustrating thing in all of cinema this actually paid off this was so beautiful so uh suddenly billy he arrives through a portal wearing his headgear and i got mad i don't know what it was everything that involved billy i did not like about the episode that is that is i don't know why because i've been wanting billy the entire season i've been waiting for the reveal i knew he was going to pop up eventually he had to but i didn't like if he felt shoehorned in and then this ex machina moment at the end of the episode did it no favors for me i don't like okay now you can portal now you can pull it and you portal right into the room literally right next to vision's bot it was so anyways uh billy using his power his magic and tommy doing his his uh super uh super speed hand jump thing uh they managed to jump start vision and so inside the mindscape vij uh ultron he sings uh i had i had streams but now i'm free and that gold that's a call back to Avengers Age of Ultron where we uh first were introduced to Ultron so uh that was a cool callback uh they managed to revive Vision Vision wakes up he hugs Tommy looks over and he sees his other son Billy and he gives him a hug too and uh this was a cool moment when Vision said my boys my boys I got choked up this this was the only good moment with Billy that I you actually liked in the episode but it was it look like i said it was satisfying it was good that he did eventually get here because to be honest we didn't need him in the first seven episodes honestly didn't need him too much in this episode but it was good to have him uh to reunite the family you know that was a cool moment and so after that um the click here you know you have uh paladin and uh uh tommy and lisa they all i guess they're teaming up with together they're gonna be uh uh the avengers again i don't know what their title is gonna be but he's giving them a lift back to new jersey to link up with billy and you have edith you have uh she's i guess she's gonna be the ai assistant for paladin and so that's going to be interesting um tommy he's able to communicate with vision with the uh uh not the edith glasses because edith is a thing now but uh i guess vision vision visions it's his vision wear and he's able to uh contact vision and speak to him in vision's mind and he asks vision is there a possibility that his mother wanda is still alive and vision is like well there's a possibility we'll see wink wink and so uh he sends the rest of the ai he being vision uh on their own path dummy and you uh they going off on their own path uh he encourages edith and friday to venture out on their own and notes that change is hard because it forces them to let go of what keeps them safe and so preparing to step back out of into the real world himself vision he hears the phone ring inside of his mindscape and he answers it and says hello ultron and vision reveals that he knew ultron survived because several of the nanobots were unaccounted for so uh believing in second chances vision grants ultron his freedom And he claims Virgil's home. He manifests himself into the embodiment of Virgil. So he's going to live on as Virgil Horton at this point. So this was another moment where I kind of was like, okay, so we're going to redeem Ultron here. You know, I'm a little, I can't stand when you redeem the villain, you know. I don't like that in any medium. I just hate that. Because Ultron is a beast, you know? He doesn't care. But you made him kind of sympathetic here. But at the same time, I guess it's left up to interpretation. Because we're going to find out in a couple of seconds here that is he really redeemed? We'll see. So, Ultron, he shares that he wants to visit the loo. and doesn't want to do anything along anymore because of vision and so uh he reminds vision not to forget his hat and ultron listens to vision tell him to be good before heading out and that's how the episode and the series ends uh so we had two two post-credit scenes at the end of this episode well before i get into the post-credit scenes and let me tell you how i felt about the episode i thought this was an excellent season finale excellent tied up every loose end yeah you got a couple of a couple of stories you can branch off to in the event they decide to continue on and give us a second season you can go that way if not hey i think everything was booked in pretty pretty well I love the writing I love the acting I love I love the story the father and son element that dragged on from episode one to the end to the very end uh in different ways in many different ways with many different characters i thought that was genius and i've really enjoyed that aspect of it not only that it felt like mcu is this felt old school mcu that we fell in love with from phase one through three i think you know this this this fits right into that world you know uh prop arguably one of the best disney plus shows if not the best um i had said previously that it's up there with wandavision wandavision is at the top with me this is right there this you can probably say 1a 1b if me personally i think they're both excellent and give it a little time a little a little marinating, this could overtake WandaVision in my eyes. Honestly, I haven't went back and watched WandaVision since I first saw it when it first premiered. And not to say I don't want to go back and watch it. I just never had the drive to go back and watch it again. But I enjoyed it so much. This? I would love to go back and watch this again. Now that I can binge all the way through it, I could, man, I'm nine times out of 10 gonna rewatch this very soon. So that alone lets you know how I feel about it and how I rank it when it comes to Disney plus Marvel shows. And so with that being said, let's jump into the post-credit scenes. There's no point holding back no more. The first post-credit scene, is directly connected to this show. How the show ended, I should say. We go back to the Horton mansion, and the doorbell rings. And Ultron, who's now assumed the identity of Virgil Horton, he stands there holding a drive, and the drive is labeled Jocasta. And that's seemingly meaning that he's going to attempt to bring her back. back he turns to the turns towards the camera and uh uh james spader in his just cool cool delivery didn't say a word but just gives that that that uh that's signature smile smirk that he does and it fades to black and that was that was the first and that kind of sets up that maybe we get another season maybe it just left ambiguous to to uh tickle your pickle or whatever but i thought that was a cool cool ending well let's get to the meat that was that was the side dish that was the entree let's get to the main course here the second post-credits scene and this reaches beyond vision quest this has to do with doomsday yes and it's linked to the show we get a Thank you. clip of wanda maximoff maximoff uh perishing under the weight of that mountain at the end of dr strange in the multiverse of madness we all remember it uh rather we want to or not i know a lot of people don't like uh dr strange in the multiverse of madness i didn't mind it i didn't like what they did to wanda's character on on that movie but you know as a movie it was fine it was it it was it was watchable but i just didn't like the way they did her character that was a complete portrayal of her character but that being said we get her with the mountain collapse okay we seen that then then it makes the turn we see that the mountain starts to ride or pieces of the mountain starts to pick up and we see a silhouette a silhouette of dr doom he picks up the wreckage of the mountain and awakens the scarlet witch he tells her your powers will be mine and wanda opens her eyes and gasp fade to black i started crying I started crying. I was like, finally, finally, we get a proper. a proper post-credit scene leading into doomsday which is less than a month away or right at a month away i am so so excited by that if you look at all of the promotional materials for doomsday which ain't that much but they had released the posters of dr doom and his little coven of witches that he had and one of the witches was kind of uh it was just pictures you know it's just a poster but the way she has her hands in the poster is the same way that wanda maximoff has her hands when she conjure up a little chaos magic and i immediately i clocked it i was like that's that's wanda but she has the mask you know the doom mask and whatnot and with the cloak but i'm like that's wanda it's nobody else but wanda I think one of the figures is Dr. Strange as well. But that I wasn't 100% sure on. This one I was 99% sure on. Now I know it's 100. Scarlet Witch is alive. Wanda Maximoff is indeed alive. Bless God. I am excited for Doomsday now. I was cool with Doomsday. I wasn't excited. If that's... if that makes any sense just this little this little tag at the end of a disney plus show did it for me i am all in now it's full steam ahead i cannot wait for doomsday because now now stuff that got real it got real and so yeah i can't wait i can't wait that was cool but as far as uh vision quest as a as a show excellent Excellent, excellent. This was an awesome season of television. Every episode I enjoyed. Every episode was entertaining. It was funny. It built tension. It had drama. You had excellent writing, excellent direction, excellent acting. And I really don't have too many notes. Yeah, I have some nitpicks here and there. but I'm Not enough for me to disqualify it as an excellent show. Vision Quest gets a letter grade of an A. Yes, this was phenomenal. Phenomenal television. Oh, man, I hate that. The only thing that I really hate about this is that we're probably only going to get one season of this show. But it deserves another. It really does. It's really, really good. you uh kudos to paul bentley to uh james spader those two especially because they could have easily mailed this in you know what i'm saying this could have been easily a paycheck show reprising a role especially in paul bentley's case you realize aside from robert downey jr he has been in the mcu the longest him and robert downey jr and because he was there in iron man one and he's been playing this character in variations throughout rather it was jarvis the voice of jarvis into vision into white vision into uh uh phineas horton uh jim you know even played a little ultron in there he did so much ed brad what he did on this season of this show was phenomenal James Spader, another one, just, I'm giving him his flowers now, man. He is phenomenal, and he did a phenomenal job reprising the role of Ultron. Yes, everybody, I'm excited for Doomsday. I am happy with WandaVision. Well, yeah, with WandaVision, but I'm also happy with Vision Quest, the sequel to WandaVision. 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But now we can spend our time getting ready for Avengers Doomsday. Everybody, I want you all to know that I love you. Continue to love everyone. And until we speak again, you all be blessed.