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if your business isn't optimizing for AI agents, you are about to be completely left behind. 🔥 Join the Marketing Misfits Newsletter https://misfits.news In this episode of the Marketing Misfits, Kevin King and Norm Farrar sit down with local marketing savant Chris Gray. Chris drops some of the most ruthless, outside-the-box marketing tactics you will ever hear for brick-and-mortar and home service businesses. But it’s not all laughs, Chris issues a massive warning about the future of Google Search. Google is shifting to an "Agentic" AI model, meaning the search engine will soon book appointments and do the shopping for the customer. If you are still relying on a basic website and organic search, you are about to be left behind. Learn why your Google Business Profile is your new homepage, how to lock customers into recurring clubs, and the exact tools to hijack your customer's smartphone lock screen. What You’ll Learn in This Masterclass: The Caller ID Hack: How changing a caller ID name completely broke through a gatekeeper and secured a massive local client. The Death of Traditional Search: Discover Google's "Universal Commerce Protocol" and how AI agents will soon handle the actual purchasing for consumers. The New Homepage: Why your Google Business Profile is now more important than your website, and why you must treat it like an SEO goldmine. The "Always Have an Event" Strategy: How posting an "Event" or "Offer" on your Google Business Profile forces the algorithm to weight your listing higher than your competitors. The Subscription Club: Why local service businesses must take past customers off the market by locking them into a membership club for slow seasons. ⏳ Episode Highlights: 00:00 - The Caller ID Sales Hack 05:20 - Kevin's "IRS Surveillance" Prank 09:15 - The Agentic AI Future 15:30 - Why Shopify Expects 50% of E-com to be Agentic by 2030 21:45 - Google Business Profile Optimization: 28:10 - The Importance of Review Velocity 33:50 - Press Release Ranking Hack 38:20 - Digital Wallet Marketing Strategy 45:10 - AI Voice Agents 52:30 - Building a Loyal Community Check out our clips channel. Join the Newsletter: Stay updated at misfits.news (http://misfits.news) This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h12 | Published on April 28, 2026


Did you know that out of the $700 billion spent on digital marketing in 2024, a staggering $140 billion was stolen by fraudsters? 🔥 Join the Marketing Misfits Newsletter https://misfits.news If you are running digital ads, there is a high probability that 20% to 25% of your traffic is entirely fake, generated by bots, malware, and human fraud farms. In this eye-opening episode of Marketing Misfits, hosts Kevin King and Norm Farrar sit down with Rich Khan, digital marketing veteran and founder of the ad-fraud solution Anura. Rich pulls back the curtain on the dark side of Pay-Per-Click (PPC) advertising, sharing insane stories of competitors using cheap bot software to drain rivals' ad budgets by up to $15,000 a day. Discover why blindly trusting big tech platforms is costing you money, how to block fake clicks, and the immediate settings you need to change in your Google Ads dashboard to protect your ROI. 🔥 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The Scale of the Scam: Why digital ad fraud is a rapidly growing problem that is predicted to hit $200 billion by 2030. Competitor Click Fraud: How malicious actors use proxy networks and bot software to intentionally exhaust your daily ad spend. The "Partner Network" Trap: Why 90% of Google’s ad traffic comes from external sites, and why unchecking the "Include Partner Networks" box is the first thing small advertisers must do. DSP Network Dangers: Why Demand-Side Platforms (DSP) average a shocking 50% fraud rate. AI vs. AI: How fraud detection companies are using advanced artificial intelligence to outsmart AI-assisted bots in real-time. Getting Your Money Back: The reality of submitting fraud claims to Google and Facebook, and why prevention is vastly superior to chasing refunds. ⏳ Timestamps: 00:00 - The $140 Billion Ad Fraud Epidemic 02:45 - Meet Rich Khan: Over 20 Years Fighting Click Fraud 05:10 - How Competitors Use Software to Steal $15,000/Day 11:30 - Bots, Malware, and Human Fraud Farms Explained 16:45 - The Dangers of Google Partner Networks & Made For Ads (MFA) Sites 21:20 - Facebook Pixel Manipulation & Blocking Fraudulent Devices 26:50 - Can You Actually Get Ad Spend Refunds from Big Tech? 33:15 - How AI is Changing the Landscape of Ad Fraud 39:40 - Why DSP Networks Have a 50% Fraud Rate 45:10 - Actionable Advice: Free Audits and Campaign Tweaks Check out our clips channel. Join the Newsletter: Stay updated at misfits.news (http://misfits.news) This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h05 | Published on April 21, 2026


Think the infomercial is dead? Think again. The infomercial industry didn't disappear; it actually took over everything. 🔥 Join the Marketing Misfits Newsletter https://misfits.news In this episode of Marketing Misfits, hosts Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with legendary marketer Ron Lynch. Ron is the creative genius behind some of the most iconic product launches in history, including the George Foreman Grill, OxiClean, and GoPro. Ron’s breakdown of consumer psychology will completely change how you approach your next campaign. Stage 22 Productions: https://www.stage22productions.com/ 🔥 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The GoPro Masterclass: Learn how Ron helped skyrocket GoPro from $600,000 to $600 million in volume by turning their customers into a massive, user-generated advertising engine. The "Little Red Riding Hood" Testimonial: How to structure customer testimonials sequentially so they tell one cohesive, highly persuasive story. The Psychology of Pricing: Discover why consumers naturally think in $20 increments (thanks to ATM machines), and why pricing your product at $29.95 might be leaving money on the table. The Anatomy of a Perfect Pitch: The exact minute-by-minute blueprint for a successful sales video, from the initial 90-second "tease" to overcoming secondary objections. Privacy, Big Data, & Pokémon Go: A mind-blowing look at how tech giants harvest your data for hyper-targeted ads, and the wild intelligence-gathering strategy behind the Pokémon Go craze. Chapters 00:00 - The Cold Open 01:30 - Meet Ron Lynch 03:15 - From Groceries to Hollywood 06:40 - Advice from Jeff Bridges 09:50 - Transitioning to Direct Response 12:30 - The Anatomy of a Perfect Pitch 15:45 - The "Little Red Riding Hood" Strategy 18:20 - The Exact Cadence of a 30-Minute Infomercial 22:15 - The Psychology of Pricing 25:30 - Hyper-Targeting on YouTube TV 31:10 - Privacy is Dead 36:00 - How Facebook Used Quizzes 40:20 - Pokémon Go Trick 44:15 - How to Capture Attention 47:30 - The GoPro Strategy 51:00 - Solving Too Many Problems 56:15 - Pitching a Transformation 1:01:00 - Conclusion Check out our clips channel. Join the Newsletter: Stay updated at misfits.news (http://misfits.news) This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h11 | Published on April 14, 2026


Are you pouring marketing dollars into a business that's secretly leaking profit? 🔥 Join the Marketing Misfits Newsletter https://misfits.news Many entrepreneurs believe they can simply out-market their operational problems, but trying to scale chaos will only break your business faster.In (http://faster.In) this episode of the Marketing Misfits, Kevin King and Norm Farrar sit down with Jhana Li, operations expert and founder of Spyglass Ops. Jhana flips the script on traditional business advice, explaining why standard SOPs might actually be a distraction for early startups and how the right systems can act like "pouring soap on a slip and slide" to unlock your team's true potential. If you are drowning in day-to-day fires and poorly managed meetings, this masterclass in operations will help you step back into the visionary CEO role you were meant to play. 🔥 Key Takeaways from This Episode: The Leaky Bucket Theory: Why driving more sales into an operationally inefficient business just widens the cracks and drains your profit. When to Actually Hire an Operator: Why you should look for an Ops Manager around the $1M run rate, and why hiring a high-priced COO too early is a massive mistake. The $400k Meeting Mistake: How aimless weekly check-ins are bleeding your revenue, and the mandatory 3-step formula (Purpose, Agenda, Facilitator) to fix them. Why SOPs Can Be a Distraction: Why you should embrace disorganization until you hit true product-market fit. Jhana Li & Spyglass Ops: spyglassops.com (http://spyglassops.com) | Follow on Social: @thejhanali ⏳Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 02:15 - The Coffee SOP 04:30 - Meet Jhana Li 07:45 - When is it Time to Hire an Operator? 10:20 - Ops Manager vs. Director of Ops vs. COO 13:15 - The Top 3 Reasons Operators Fail in Startups 17:00 - Why SOPs are a Distraction 22:40 - Overcoming Founder Bottlenecks 28:15 - Extrinsic vs. Intrinsic Motivation 32:00 - The "Leaky Bucket" 35:50 - How Bad Meetings Cost You $100 000s 40:10 - Managing to Outcomes, Not Inputs 45:30 - Guarantees the Perfect Hire in 90 Days Check out our clips channel. Join the Newsletter: Stay updated at misfits.news (http://misfits.news) This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h08 | Published on April 7, 2026


If you are tired of fighting for views on TikTok or Instagram, it is time to pivot to the platform where real business actually happens. 🔥 Join the Marketing Misfits Newsletter https://misfits.news The average income on LinkedIn is over $130,000, almost double that of other major platforms and four out of five users are business decision-makers.In (http://decision-makers.In) this episode of Marketing Misfits, hosts Kevin King and Norm Farrar sit down with Joshua B. Lee, widely known as the "Dopamine Dealer of LinkedIn". 🔥 You’ll Discover: The AI & SEO Takeover: Why Microsoft’s ownership of both LinkedIn and OpenAI is turning the platform into the foundation for future generative search. The Newsletter Hack: How LinkedIn newsletters achieve massive 20-50% open rates and get indexed by Google in less than an hour. The Anti-Automation Warning: Why using third-party automation tools will get your account banned within hours, and how to manually use Sales Navigator for better results. The Dopamine Strategy: How to use simple psychological stopgaps, like endorsing a skill or saying "thank you" to effortlessly start sales conversations without cold pitching. Event Lead Generation: Step-by-step instructions on setting up LinkedIn Events to legally collect first names, last names, and emails while inviting up to 8,000 connections a month. Newsjacking for Video: Why posting 1.5 to 2-minute videos reacting to trending LinkedIn news can generate millions of organic views. 🔗 Resources & Links Mentioned:Joshua B. Lee's Agency - https://joshuablee.com/ Chapters: 00:00 LinkedIn vs. Others 04:21 Meet Joshua B Lee 08:31 Why the LinkedIn Platform 12:44 The Power of LinkedIn and AI 21:33 LinkedIn Newsletter 26:34 Creating a Newsletter 31:12 Making LinkedIn Content 37:57 Using Sales Navigator 42:29 LinkedIn Limits 49:01 Premium Account 53:53 Dopamine Dealer Role 01:02:46 LinkedIn's Video Power 01:08:13 Webinar Event Setup ️ 01:12:39 Inviting Connections ️ 01:16:44 Podcast Listings ️ 🎙️ Subscribe to the Channel: Hit subscribe to catch new insights every Tuesday! Check out our clips channel. Join the Newsletter: Stay updated at misfits.news (http://misfits.news) This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h22 | Published on March 31, 2026


Why are traditional marketing frameworks completely failing with today’s younger consumers? Because you can't use traditional hype to sell to a generation operating from a baseline of hopelessness. Subscribe to the Marketing Misfits newsletter - https://www.misfits.news/ In this episode of the Marketing Misfits, Kevin King and Norm Farrar sit down with DTC consultant and behavioral science expert, Sarah Levinger. Sarah reveals the unspoken, often dark psychological triggers that drive modern consumerism. We dive deep into why Gen Z believes they will never be wealthy, how AI is fundamentally changing the way our brains process information, and why legacy brands are destroying their legacies by forcing themselves into the wrong conversations. If you want to understand the true subconscious matrix of consumerism and how tools like Tether Insights are decoding it... This is a masterclass you cannot afford to miss! You'll learn: The Gen Z Hopelessness Matrix Decoding the Subconscious Consumer The 3 Psychological Selves The 12 Universal Marketing Avatars The Danger of the Unending AI Loop Why the AIDA Framework is Dead Brand Identity Disasters: How massive legacy brands like Budweiser and Jaguar alienated their core audiences by trying to hack a cultural conversation they didn't belong in (and why Dove's "Like a Girl" campaign succeeded). ⏳ Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 03:10 - Meet Sarah Levinger 07:45 - Scraping the Internet's Subconscious 10:15 - How E-commerce Brands are Using (and Abusing) AI 14:30 - AI vs. AI 17:20 - The Dark Side of AI 23:10 - The Dark Psychology of Gen Z Buyers 27:00 - 12 Universal Marketing Avatars 31:40 - The Subtext of Your Ad Copy 35:15 - Brand Disasters 41:20 - Why the Traditional Copywriting is Broken 44:30 - How to Gather Real Data 🔗 Resources & Links: Sarah Levinger’s Consulting: SarahLevinger.co (http://SarahLevinger.co) Tether Insights (AI Ad Ideation): tetherinsights.io (http://tetherinsights.io) This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h13 | Published on March 24, 2026


Is your personal brand ready for the shift toward AI answer engines like Perplexity and ChatGPT? Subscribe to the Marketing Misfits newsletter - https://www.misfits.news/ In this episode of Marketing Misfits, hosts Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Rachel B. Lee, the "Branding Ladyboss" and co-founder of Standout Authority. Rachel reveals why "BS Marketing" is dying and how professionals can use vulnerability and human-to-human connection to dominate platforms like LinkedIn. Whether you are a corporate executive or a solo entrepreneur, learning how to "Work Your Brand" is no longer optional, it's your competitive moat. Learn more about Rachel here - https://standoutauthority.com/ 🔥 What You’ll Learn in This Masterclass: - The Death of the Linear Funnel: Why B2B buying cycles now take 6 months to 2 years and how to stay top-of-mind. - Authenticity vs. Over-sharing: Where to draw the line when being vulnerable online (and why the "Mental Load" post works). - LinkedIn Strategy: Why Rachel recommends a LinkedIn profile over a website for career professionals. - AI & Brand Dilution: How to train LLMs (ChatGPT/Gemini) on your unique stories so you don't sound like a bot. - The "X, Y, Z" Headline Hack: A simple formula to transform your LinkedIn headline into a lead magnet. - Overcoming Imposter Syndrome: Why even billion-dollar CEOs struggle with visibility. This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits 📌 Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction 03:20 - Meet Rachel B. Lee 07:15 - What is "BS Marketing" 11:40 - Prove You’re Authentic 16:05 - Sharing the "Mental Load" 22:30 - Personal Brand vs. Corporate Brand 28:50 - The 4-Burner Theory 33:10 - Owning a Word in Your Niche 39:45 - How to Start a Brand with Zero Audience 44:20 - Why Gen Z Wants Stories, Not Sales 49:10 - The Most Impactful Post 55:30 - The "Imposter Syndrome" Myth Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h11 | Published on March 17, 2026


Most people run webinars completely wrong. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, hosts Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with the legendary Jason Fladlien, the man responsible for some of the biggest launches in internet history, including a $57 million webinar and massive 8-figure launches with Iman Gadzhi. Jason breaks down the "Pitch Upfront" strategy, the psychology of delayed gratification, and how he consulted on Alex Hormozi’s $100M book launch. If you want to master the art of selling "one to many" and understand why context is king over content, this masterclass is for you. 🔥 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: - The Upfront Close: Why Jason tells the audience he’s selling to them within the first 5 minutes. - The Hormozi Factor: Inside the strategy behind the $100M 100M Offers book launch. - Affiliate Marketing Secrets: How Jason became the #1 affiliate for ASM, doing $9.8M in a single promotion. - The Power of "Tie Downs": How to anchor value so your audience stays committed to the transformation. - Physical + Digital Hybrids: Why adding physical bonuses (like embroidery machines or Amex-style perks) explodes conversion rates. - Masterminds vs. Mindset: Why your "Zip Code" (setting) matters more than your "Set" (mindset) for scaling to 8 and 9 figures. This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits 📌 Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction 02:45 - The $1.5M in 2 Minutes 05:30 - $9.8M as a Single Affiliate 08:15 - Why Webinars 11:40 - The "Two Objectives" Opening 15:50 - Working with Iman Gadzhi 20:10 - The "Amex" Bonus Strategy 24:35 - Alex Hormozi’s $100M Launch 29:00 - How to Reframe a Negative Audience 35:45 - Building a Content Team 42:10 - Why Kevin King Paid $35k+ for a Mastermind 48:00 - One to Many 🔗 Resources Mentioned: Jason Fladlien’s Book: One to Many - https://www.amazon.com/One-Many-Secret-Webinar-Success/dp/1544500645 #JasonFladlien #Webinars #MarketingMisfit Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h22 | Published on March 10, 2026


Most entrepreneurs think their funnel is broken. According to Steve Larsen, the real problem usually isn’t the funnel... It’s the hook, positioning, and message. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Steve Larsen (former ClickFunnels CMO and Russell Brunson’s funnel builder) to break down what actually drives leads, conversions, and sales online. They dive deep into the psychology behind hooks, how to position yourself in a “red ocean with a blue offer,” and the exact framework Steve uses to create marketing messages that generate hand-raisers and qualified leads. If you build funnels, run ads, sell online, or create marketing campaigns, this episode gives you a clear blueprint for writing hooks that make people say “tell me more.” This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 0:46 - Welcome to Marketing Misfits 2:50 - Steve Larson and the Capitalist Pig Brand 4:00 - The Origin of "Capitalist Pig" 7:12 - The Five Points of Capitalism 9:49 - Why the US is a Capitalist Society 12:00 - Steve's Experience with ClickFunnels 13:51 - Understanding Sales Funnels 16:59 - The Truth About Internet Marketing 22:23 - Red Ocean, Blue Offer Strategy 24:12 - The Forex Market Analogy 32:09 - Traffic vs. Messaging/Positioning 32:43 - Case Study: Precision Medicine 38:20 - The Offer Hook Formula: Customer Psychology 39:30 - Marketing vs. Content Creation 47:11 - The Five-Step Hook Formula 53:01 - Case Study: Osteoporosis Hook 59:45 - Connecting with Steve Larson What You’ll Learn • Why funnels fail without the right hook • Why most entrepreneurs talk about their offer too early • How to describe a customer’s problem better than they can • Why positioning matters more than traffic • The Red Ocean Blue Offer strategy explained • How competitors actually educate your future customers • Why good marketing acts as both a magnet and a filter • The 5-part hook formula that drives leads About the Guest Steve Larsen Former CMO of ClickFunnels and Russell Brunson’s funnel builder. Steve has built hundreds of funnels, worked with major brands, and now helps entrepreneurs create offers, messaging, and funnels that convert. Website: https://launchforprofit.com About Marketing Misfits: Marketing Misfits features real conversations with entrepreneurs, operators, and marketers who challenge conventional thinking. Hosted by Norm Farrar and Kevin King. New episodes every Tuesday. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h03 | Published on March 4, 2026


Everyone thinks direct mail is outdated. Meanwhile, it’s still delivering $12 for every $1 spent, reaching every household in America 6 days a week, and producing engagement rates digital marketers can only dream about. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Dr. Wilson Zehr, founder of Zairmail, to break down why direct mail still works, how it integrates with digital marketing, and how automation is bringing this “old school” channel into the AI era. If you sell online, run e-commerce, build lists, or care about ROI, this episode may completely change how you think about marketing channels. This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Chapters: 00:00 Why Direct Mail Wins 03:00 Dragonfish + Email Strategy 03:30 Meet Dr. Wilson Zehr 06:00 Teaching Entrepreneurship 11:20 What Makes Entrepreneurs Win 16:00 How Businesses Get Funded 21:45 Why Direct Mail Isn’t Dead 28:10 $12 For Every $1 30:25 What Mail Does Better 34:55 How Zairmail Works 38:00 Mail Retargeting Explained 42:15 QR Codes + Tracking 45:30 Real Campaign Example 52:00 Using Lists the Right Way 57:00 AI + Direct Mail What You’ll Learn • Why direct mail still produces strong ROI • The real reason mail volumes declined (and why that’s good news) • How direct mail gets a 98% “open rate” • Why email + mail together outperform either alone • How retargeting works with physical mail • How to automate mail campaigns in seconds • How to buy highly targeted mailing lists • Compiled lists vs response lists explained • How to track direct mail with QR codes • How direct mail fuels Amazon ranking • Why most marketers ignore this channel • How AI improves targeting, messaging, and offer strategy • How to integrate mail into a modern marketing stack Why This Matters Now Digital ad costs are rising. Email inboxes are saturated. AI-generated content is everywhere. Direct mail is less competitive than ever and automation tools like Zairmail make it easier than it’s ever been. This isn’t about replacing digital. It’s about adding a channel most competitors ignore. Guest Dr. Wilson Zehr Founder, Zairmail Automated direct mail software platform Website: https://zairmail.com About Marketing Misfits Marketing Misfits features real conversations with founders, operators, and marketers who build and scale businesses using unconventional strategies. Hosted by Norm Farrar and Kevin King. New episodes every Tuesday. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h10 | Published on February 24, 2026
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if your business isn't optimizing for AI agents, you are about to be completely left behind. 🔥 Join the Marketing Misfits Newsletter https://misfits.news In this episode of the Marketing Misfits, Kevin King and Norm Farrar sit down with local marketing savant Chris Gray. Chris drops some of the most ruthless, outside-the-box marketing tactics you will ever hear for brick-and-mortar and home service businesses. But it’s not all laughs, Chris issues a massive warning about the future of Google Search. Google is shifting to an "Agentic" AI model, meaning the search engine will soon book appointments and do the shopping for the customer. If you are still relying on a basic website and organic search, you are about to be left behind. Learn why your Google Business Profile is your new homepage, how to lock customers into recurring clubs, and the exact tools to hijack your customer's smartphone lock screen. What You’ll Learn in This Masterclass: The Caller ID Hack: How changing a caller ID name completely broke through a gatekeeper and secured a massive local client. The Death of Traditional Search: Discover Google's "Universal Commerce Protocol" and how AI agents will soon handle the actual purchasing for consumers. The New Homepage: Why your Google Business Profile is now more important than your website, and why you must treat it like an SEO goldmine. The "Always Have an Event" Strategy: How posting an "Event" or "Offer" on your Google Business Profile forces the algorithm to weight your listing higher than your competitors. The Subscription Club: Why local service businesses must take past customers off the market by locking them into a membership club for slow seasons. ⏳ Episode Highlights: 00:00 - The Caller ID Sales Hack 05:20 - Kevin's "IRS Surveillance" Prank 09:15 - The Agentic AI Future 15:30 - Why Shopify Expects 50% of E-com to be Agentic by 2030 21:45 - Google Business Profile Optimization: 28:10 - The Importance of Review Velocity 33:50 - Press Release Ranking Hack 38:20 - Digital Wallet Marketing Strategy 45:10 - AI Voice Agents 52:30 - Building a Loyal Community Check out our clips channel. Join the Newsletter: Stay updated at misfits.news (http://misfits.news) This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h12 | Published on April 28, 2026


Did you know that out of the $700 billion spent on digital marketing in 2024, a staggering $140 billion was stolen by fraudsters? 🔥 Join the Marketing Misfits Newsletter https://misfits.news If you are running digital ads, there is a high probability that 20% to 25% of your traffic is entirely fake, generated by bots, malware, and human fraud farms. In this eye-opening episode of Marketing Misfits, hosts Kevin King and Norm Farrar sit down with Rich Khan, digital marketing veteran and founder of the ad-fraud solution Anura. Rich pulls back the curtain on the dark side of Pay-Per-Click (PPC) advertising, sharing insane stories of competitors using cheap bot software to drain rivals' ad budgets by up to $15,000 a day. Discover why blindly trusting big tech platforms is costing you money, how to block fake clicks, and the immediate settings you need to change in your Google Ads dashboard to protect your ROI. 🔥 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The Scale of the Scam: Why digital ad fraud is a rapidly growing problem that is predicted to hit $200 billion by 2030. Competitor Click Fraud: How malicious actors use proxy networks and bot software to intentionally exhaust your daily ad spend. The "Partner Network" Trap: Why 90% of Google’s ad traffic comes from external sites, and why unchecking the "Include Partner Networks" box is the first thing small advertisers must do. DSP Network Dangers: Why Demand-Side Platforms (DSP) average a shocking 50% fraud rate. AI vs. AI: How fraud detection companies are using advanced artificial intelligence to outsmart AI-assisted bots in real-time. Getting Your Money Back: The reality of submitting fraud claims to Google and Facebook, and why prevention is vastly superior to chasing refunds. ⏳ Timestamps: 00:00 - The $140 Billion Ad Fraud Epidemic 02:45 - Meet Rich Khan: Over 20 Years Fighting Click Fraud 05:10 - How Competitors Use Software to Steal $15,000/Day 11:30 - Bots, Malware, and Human Fraud Farms Explained 16:45 - The Dangers of Google Partner Networks & Made For Ads (MFA) Sites 21:20 - Facebook Pixel Manipulation & Blocking Fraudulent Devices 26:50 - Can You Actually Get Ad Spend Refunds from Big Tech? 33:15 - How AI is Changing the Landscape of Ad Fraud 39:40 - Why DSP Networks Have a 50% Fraud Rate 45:10 - Actionable Advice: Free Audits and Campaign Tweaks Check out our clips channel. Join the Newsletter: Stay updated at misfits.news (http://misfits.news) This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h05 | Published on April 21, 2026


Think the infomercial is dead? Think again. The infomercial industry didn't disappear; it actually took over everything. 🔥 Join the Marketing Misfits Newsletter https://misfits.news In this episode of Marketing Misfits, hosts Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with legendary marketer Ron Lynch. Ron is the creative genius behind some of the most iconic product launches in history, including the George Foreman Grill, OxiClean, and GoPro. Ron’s breakdown of consumer psychology will completely change how you approach your next campaign. Stage 22 Productions: https://www.stage22productions.com/ 🔥 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: The GoPro Masterclass: Learn how Ron helped skyrocket GoPro from $600,000 to $600 million in volume by turning their customers into a massive, user-generated advertising engine. The "Little Red Riding Hood" Testimonial: How to structure customer testimonials sequentially so they tell one cohesive, highly persuasive story. The Psychology of Pricing: Discover why consumers naturally think in $20 increments (thanks to ATM machines), and why pricing your product at $29.95 might be leaving money on the table. The Anatomy of a Perfect Pitch: The exact minute-by-minute blueprint for a successful sales video, from the initial 90-second "tease" to overcoming secondary objections. Privacy, Big Data, & Pokémon Go: A mind-blowing look at how tech giants harvest your data for hyper-targeted ads, and the wild intelligence-gathering strategy behind the Pokémon Go craze. Chapters 00:00 - The Cold Open 01:30 - Meet Ron Lynch 03:15 - From Groceries to Hollywood 06:40 - Advice from Jeff Bridges 09:50 - Transitioning to Direct Response 12:30 - The Anatomy of a Perfect Pitch 15:45 - The "Little Red Riding Hood" Strategy 18:20 - The Exact Cadence of a 30-Minute Infomercial 22:15 - The Psychology of Pricing 25:30 - Hyper-Targeting on YouTube TV 31:10 - Privacy is Dead 36:00 - How Facebook Used Quizzes 40:20 - Pokémon Go Trick 44:15 - How to Capture Attention 47:30 - The GoPro Strategy 51:00 - Solving Too Many Problems 56:15 - Pitching a Transformation 1:01:00 - Conclusion Check out our clips channel. Join the Newsletter: Stay updated at misfits.news (http://misfits.news) This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h11 | Published on April 14, 2026


Are you pouring marketing dollars into a business that's secretly leaking profit? 🔥 Join the Marketing Misfits Newsletter https://misfits.news Many entrepreneurs believe they can simply out-market their operational problems, but trying to scale chaos will only break your business faster.In (http://faster.In) this episode of the Marketing Misfits, Kevin King and Norm Farrar sit down with Jhana Li, operations expert and founder of Spyglass Ops. Jhana flips the script on traditional business advice, explaining why standard SOPs might actually be a distraction for early startups and how the right systems can act like "pouring soap on a slip and slide" to unlock your team's true potential. If you are drowning in day-to-day fires and poorly managed meetings, this masterclass in operations will help you step back into the visionary CEO role you were meant to play. 🔥 Key Takeaways from This Episode: The Leaky Bucket Theory: Why driving more sales into an operationally inefficient business just widens the cracks and drains your profit. When to Actually Hire an Operator: Why you should look for an Ops Manager around the $1M run rate, and why hiring a high-priced COO too early is a massive mistake. The $400k Meeting Mistake: How aimless weekly check-ins are bleeding your revenue, and the mandatory 3-step formula (Purpose, Agenda, Facilitator) to fix them. Why SOPs Can Be a Distraction: Why you should embrace disorganization until you hit true product-market fit. Jhana Li & Spyglass Ops: spyglassops.com (http://spyglassops.com) | Follow on Social: @thejhanali ⏳Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 02:15 - The Coffee SOP 04:30 - Meet Jhana Li 07:45 - When is it Time to Hire an Operator? 10:20 - Ops Manager vs. Director of Ops vs. COO 13:15 - The Top 3 Reasons Operators Fail in Startups 17:00 - Why SOPs are a Distraction 22:40 - Overcoming Founder Bottlenecks 28:15 - Extrinsic vs. Intrinsic Motivation 32:00 - The "Leaky Bucket" 35:50 - How Bad Meetings Cost You $100 000s 40:10 - Managing to Outcomes, Not Inputs 45:30 - Guarantees the Perfect Hire in 90 Days Check out our clips channel. Join the Newsletter: Stay updated at misfits.news (http://misfits.news) This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h08 | Published on April 7, 2026


If you are tired of fighting for views on TikTok or Instagram, it is time to pivot to the platform where real business actually happens. 🔥 Join the Marketing Misfits Newsletter https://misfits.news The average income on LinkedIn is over $130,000, almost double that of other major platforms and four out of five users are business decision-makers.In (http://decision-makers.In) this episode of Marketing Misfits, hosts Kevin King and Norm Farrar sit down with Joshua B. Lee, widely known as the "Dopamine Dealer of LinkedIn". 🔥 You’ll Discover: The AI & SEO Takeover: Why Microsoft’s ownership of both LinkedIn and OpenAI is turning the platform into the foundation for future generative search. The Newsletter Hack: How LinkedIn newsletters achieve massive 20-50% open rates and get indexed by Google in less than an hour. The Anti-Automation Warning: Why using third-party automation tools will get your account banned within hours, and how to manually use Sales Navigator for better results. The Dopamine Strategy: How to use simple psychological stopgaps, like endorsing a skill or saying "thank you" to effortlessly start sales conversations without cold pitching. Event Lead Generation: Step-by-step instructions on setting up LinkedIn Events to legally collect first names, last names, and emails while inviting up to 8,000 connections a month. Newsjacking for Video: Why posting 1.5 to 2-minute videos reacting to trending LinkedIn news can generate millions of organic views. 🔗 Resources & Links Mentioned:Joshua B. Lee's Agency - https://joshuablee.com/ Chapters: 00:00 LinkedIn vs. Others 04:21 Meet Joshua B Lee 08:31 Why the LinkedIn Platform 12:44 The Power of LinkedIn and AI 21:33 LinkedIn Newsletter 26:34 Creating a Newsletter 31:12 Making LinkedIn Content 37:57 Using Sales Navigator 42:29 LinkedIn Limits 49:01 Premium Account 53:53 Dopamine Dealer Role 01:02:46 LinkedIn's Video Power 01:08:13 Webinar Event Setup ️ 01:12:39 Inviting Connections ️ 01:16:44 Podcast Listings ️ 🎙️ Subscribe to the Channel: Hit subscribe to catch new insights every Tuesday! Check out our clips channel. Join the Newsletter: Stay updated at misfits.news (http://misfits.news) This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h22 | Published on March 31, 2026


Why are traditional marketing frameworks completely failing with today’s younger consumers? Because you can't use traditional hype to sell to a generation operating from a baseline of hopelessness. Subscribe to the Marketing Misfits newsletter - https://www.misfits.news/ In this episode of the Marketing Misfits, Kevin King and Norm Farrar sit down with DTC consultant and behavioral science expert, Sarah Levinger. Sarah reveals the unspoken, often dark psychological triggers that drive modern consumerism. We dive deep into why Gen Z believes they will never be wealthy, how AI is fundamentally changing the way our brains process information, and why legacy brands are destroying their legacies by forcing themselves into the wrong conversations. If you want to understand the true subconscious matrix of consumerism and how tools like Tether Insights are decoding it... This is a masterclass you cannot afford to miss! You'll learn: The Gen Z Hopelessness Matrix Decoding the Subconscious Consumer The 3 Psychological Selves The 12 Universal Marketing Avatars The Danger of the Unending AI Loop Why the AIDA Framework is Dead Brand Identity Disasters: How massive legacy brands like Budweiser and Jaguar alienated their core audiences by trying to hack a cultural conversation they didn't belong in (and why Dove's "Like a Girl" campaign succeeded). ⏳ Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 03:10 - Meet Sarah Levinger 07:45 - Scraping the Internet's Subconscious 10:15 - How E-commerce Brands are Using (and Abusing) AI 14:30 - AI vs. AI 17:20 - The Dark Side of AI 23:10 - The Dark Psychology of Gen Z Buyers 27:00 - 12 Universal Marketing Avatars 31:40 - The Subtext of Your Ad Copy 35:15 - Brand Disasters 41:20 - Why the Traditional Copywriting is Broken 44:30 - How to Gather Real Data 🔗 Resources & Links: Sarah Levinger’s Consulting: SarahLevinger.co (http://SarahLevinger.co) Tether Insights (AI Ad Ideation): tetherinsights.io (http://tetherinsights.io) This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h13 | Published on March 24, 2026


Is your personal brand ready for the shift toward AI answer engines like Perplexity and ChatGPT? Subscribe to the Marketing Misfits newsletter - https://www.misfits.news/ In this episode of Marketing Misfits, hosts Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Rachel B. Lee, the "Branding Ladyboss" and co-founder of Standout Authority. Rachel reveals why "BS Marketing" is dying and how professionals can use vulnerability and human-to-human connection to dominate platforms like LinkedIn. Whether you are a corporate executive or a solo entrepreneur, learning how to "Work Your Brand" is no longer optional, it's your competitive moat. Learn more about Rachel here - https://standoutauthority.com/ 🔥 What You’ll Learn in This Masterclass: - The Death of the Linear Funnel: Why B2B buying cycles now take 6 months to 2 years and how to stay top-of-mind. - Authenticity vs. Over-sharing: Where to draw the line when being vulnerable online (and why the "Mental Load" post works). - LinkedIn Strategy: Why Rachel recommends a LinkedIn profile over a website for career professionals. - AI & Brand Dilution: How to train LLMs (ChatGPT/Gemini) on your unique stories so you don't sound like a bot. - The "X, Y, Z" Headline Hack: A simple formula to transform your LinkedIn headline into a lead magnet. - Overcoming Imposter Syndrome: Why even billion-dollar CEOs struggle with visibility. This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits 📌 Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction 03:20 - Meet Rachel B. Lee 07:15 - What is "BS Marketing" 11:40 - Prove You’re Authentic 16:05 - Sharing the "Mental Load" 22:30 - Personal Brand vs. Corporate Brand 28:50 - The 4-Burner Theory 33:10 - Owning a Word in Your Niche 39:45 - How to Start a Brand with Zero Audience 44:20 - Why Gen Z Wants Stories, Not Sales 49:10 - The Most Impactful Post 55:30 - The "Imposter Syndrome" Myth Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h11 | Published on March 17, 2026


Most people run webinars completely wrong. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, hosts Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with the legendary Jason Fladlien, the man responsible for some of the biggest launches in internet history, including a $57 million webinar and massive 8-figure launches with Iman Gadzhi. Jason breaks down the "Pitch Upfront" strategy, the psychology of delayed gratification, and how he consulted on Alex Hormozi’s $100M book launch. If you want to master the art of selling "one to many" and understand why context is king over content, this masterclass is for you. 🔥 What You’ll Learn in This Episode: - The Upfront Close: Why Jason tells the audience he’s selling to them within the first 5 minutes. - The Hormozi Factor: Inside the strategy behind the $100M 100M Offers book launch. - Affiliate Marketing Secrets: How Jason became the #1 affiliate for ASM, doing $9.8M in a single promotion. - The Power of "Tie Downs": How to anchor value so your audience stays committed to the transformation. - Physical + Digital Hybrids: Why adding physical bonuses (like embroidery machines or Amex-style perks) explodes conversion rates. - Masterminds vs. Mindset: Why your "Zip Code" (setting) matters more than your "Set" (mindset) for scaling to 8 and 9 figures. This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits 📌 Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction 02:45 - The $1.5M in 2 Minutes 05:30 - $9.8M as a Single Affiliate 08:15 - Why Webinars 11:40 - The "Two Objectives" Opening 15:50 - Working with Iman Gadzhi 20:10 - The "Amex" Bonus Strategy 24:35 - Alex Hormozi’s $100M Launch 29:00 - How to Reframe a Negative Audience 35:45 - Building a Content Team 42:10 - Why Kevin King Paid $35k+ for a Mastermind 48:00 - One to Many 🔗 Resources Mentioned: Jason Fladlien’s Book: One to Many - https://www.amazon.com/One-Many-Secret-Webinar-Success/dp/1544500645 #JasonFladlien #Webinars #MarketingMisfit Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h22 | Published on March 10, 2026


Most entrepreneurs think their funnel is broken. According to Steve Larsen, the real problem usually isn’t the funnel... It’s the hook, positioning, and message. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Steve Larsen (former ClickFunnels CMO and Russell Brunson’s funnel builder) to break down what actually drives leads, conversions, and sales online. They dive deep into the psychology behind hooks, how to position yourself in a “red ocean with a blue offer,” and the exact framework Steve uses to create marketing messages that generate hand-raisers and qualified leads. If you build funnels, run ads, sell online, or create marketing campaigns, this episode gives you a clear blueprint for writing hooks that make people say “tell me more.” This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Timestamps 0:00 - Intro 0:46 - Welcome to Marketing Misfits 2:50 - Steve Larson and the Capitalist Pig Brand 4:00 - The Origin of "Capitalist Pig" 7:12 - The Five Points of Capitalism 9:49 - Why the US is a Capitalist Society 12:00 - Steve's Experience with ClickFunnels 13:51 - Understanding Sales Funnels 16:59 - The Truth About Internet Marketing 22:23 - Red Ocean, Blue Offer Strategy 24:12 - The Forex Market Analogy 32:09 - Traffic vs. Messaging/Positioning 32:43 - Case Study: Precision Medicine 38:20 - The Offer Hook Formula: Customer Psychology 39:30 - Marketing vs. Content Creation 47:11 - The Five-Step Hook Formula 53:01 - Case Study: Osteoporosis Hook 59:45 - Connecting with Steve Larson What You’ll Learn • Why funnels fail without the right hook • Why most entrepreneurs talk about their offer too early • How to describe a customer’s problem better than they can • Why positioning matters more than traffic • The Red Ocean Blue Offer strategy explained • How competitors actually educate your future customers • Why good marketing acts as both a magnet and a filter • The 5-part hook formula that drives leads About the Guest Steve Larsen Former CMO of ClickFunnels and Russell Brunson’s funnel builder. Steve has built hundreds of funnels, worked with major brands, and now helps entrepreneurs create offers, messaging, and funnels that convert. Website: https://launchforprofit.com About Marketing Misfits: Marketing Misfits features real conversations with entrepreneurs, operators, and marketers who challenge conventional thinking. Hosted by Norm Farrar and Kevin King. New episodes every Tuesday. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h03 | Published on March 4, 2026


Everyone thinks direct mail is outdated. Meanwhile, it’s still delivering $12 for every $1 spent, reaching every household in America 6 days a week, and producing engagement rates digital marketers can only dream about. In this episode of Marketing Misfits, Norm Farrar and Kevin King sit down with Dr. Wilson Zehr, founder of Zairmail, to break down why direct mail still works, how it integrates with digital marketing, and how automation is bringing this “old school” channel into the AI era. If you sell online, run e-commerce, build lists, or care about ROI, this episode may completely change how you think about marketing channels. This episode is brought to you by: - QuietLight Brokerage: Get a free, confidential valuation https://quietlight.com/ - Sellerboard: https://sellerboard.com/misfits - House of AMZ: Elevate your brand today at https://www.amazonseo.com/ - 8fig: Get 25% off 8fig off at https://8fig.co - Stack Influence: Use code MISFITS for 10% off at https://stackinfluence.com/ - Levanta: Get 20% off Levanta's gold plan and book your call today - https://get.levanta.io/misfits Chapters: 00:00 Why Direct Mail Wins 03:00 Dragonfish + Email Strategy 03:30 Meet Dr. Wilson Zehr 06:00 Teaching Entrepreneurship 11:20 What Makes Entrepreneurs Win 16:00 How Businesses Get Funded 21:45 Why Direct Mail Isn’t Dead 28:10 $12 For Every $1 30:25 What Mail Does Better 34:55 How Zairmail Works 38:00 Mail Retargeting Explained 42:15 QR Codes + Tracking 45:30 Real Campaign Example 52:00 Using Lists the Right Way 57:00 AI + Direct Mail What You’ll Learn • Why direct mail still produces strong ROI • The real reason mail volumes declined (and why that’s good news) • How direct mail gets a 98% “open rate” • Why email + mail together outperform either alone • How retargeting works with physical mail • How to automate mail campaigns in seconds • How to buy highly targeted mailing lists • Compiled lists vs response lists explained • How to track direct mail with QR codes • How direct mail fuels Amazon ranking • Why most marketers ignore this channel • How AI improves targeting, messaging, and offer strategy • How to integrate mail into a modern marketing stack Why This Matters Now Digital ad costs are rising. Email inboxes are saturated. AI-generated content is everywhere. Direct mail is less competitive than ever and automation tools like Zairmail make it easier than it’s ever been. This isn’t about replacing digital. It’s about adding a channel most competitors ignore. Guest Dr. Wilson Zehr Founder, Zairmail Automated direct mail software platform Website: https://zairmail.com About Marketing Misfits Marketing Misfits features real conversations with founders, operators, and marketers who build and scale businesses using unconventional strategies. Hosted by Norm Farrar and Kevin King. New episodes every Tuesday. Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.
1h10 | Published on February 24, 2026