E18: Being with the Suffering Self

39min | 12/13/2025

Description

Pilate was amazed by Jesus and so are we as we read the last bit of Mark's gospel. He's accused of crimes he didn't commit and there are layers of betrayal as people are influenced by corrupt political systems. We stay with Jesus all the way to the end when the temple curtain is torn in two and talk about what his death means for humanity.

Contact us via email: joananddamian@gmail.com

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Chapters

Introduction to Jesus' Trial
6sec
The Roman Trial Process
58sec
The Brutality of Scourging
10min
The Darkness of Crucifixion
22min
The Temple Curtain Torn
24min
Recognition of God's Son
26min
The Role of Women in Suffering
29min
Burial Negotiations
30min
Reflecting on Humanity's Cruelty
32min
Redemption and the Centurion
34min
Conclusion: Staying with Suffering
37min

About Untangled

This is a podcast for the Bible curious.

Each week Joan will give Damian a passage to read from the bible and they’ll just talk about it.

At their heart, religions promote connection, each offering a unique path toward unity in life in God.

Here’s a place to untangle stories from the Christian Scripture.

Joan and Damian grew up next door to each other in Melbourne’s inner north. 50 years later, they are still great mates and like to chat about all things deep and meaningful.

Joan has read the bible loads of times. She grew up on bible stories, became a church minister, learned from biblical scholars, read books, writes sermons and has been immersed in theological reflections for years.

Damian has never read the bible. He ran an IT business and has been highly suspicious of religion. After a mid-life direction change, Damian retrained as a psychodynamic psychotherapist.

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

About Untangled

This is a podcast for the Bible curious.

Each week Joan will give Damian a passage to read from the bible and they’ll just talk about it.

At their heart, religions promote connection, each offering a unique path toward unity in life in God.

Here’s a place to untangle stories from the Christian Scripture.

Joan and Damian grew up next door to each other in Melbourne’s inner north. 50 years later, they are still great mates and like to chat about all things deep and meaningful.

Joan has read the bible loads of times. She grew up on bible stories, became a church minister, learned from biblical scholars, read books, writes sermons and has been immersed in theological reflections for years.

Damian has never read the bible. He ran an IT business and has been highly suspicious of religion. After a mid-life direction change, Damian retrained as a psychodynamic psychotherapist.

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Description

Pilate was amazed by Jesus and so are we as we read the last bit of Mark's gospel. He's accused of crimes he didn't commit and there are layers of betrayal as people are influenced by corrupt political systems. We stay with Jesus all the way to the end when the temple curtain is torn in two and talk about what his death means for humanity.

Contact us via email: joananddamian@gmail.com

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Chapters

Introduction to Jesus' Trial
6sec
The Roman Trial Process
58sec
The Brutality of Scourging
10min
The Darkness of Crucifixion
22min
The Temple Curtain Torn
24min
Recognition of God's Son
26min
The Role of Women in Suffering
29min
Burial Negotiations
30min
Reflecting on Humanity's Cruelty
32min
Redemption and the Centurion
34min
Conclusion: Staying with Suffering
37min

About Untangled

This is a podcast for the Bible curious.

Each week Joan will give Damian a passage to read from the bible and they’ll just talk about it.

At their heart, religions promote connection, each offering a unique path toward unity in life in God.

Here’s a place to untangle stories from the Christian Scripture.

Joan and Damian grew up next door to each other in Melbourne’s inner north. 50 years later, they are still great mates and like to chat about all things deep and meaningful.

Joan has read the bible loads of times. She grew up on bible stories, became a church minister, learned from biblical scholars, read books, writes sermons and has been immersed in theological reflections for years.

Damian has never read the bible. He ran an IT business and has been highly suspicious of religion. After a mid-life direction change, Damian retrained as a psychodynamic psychotherapist.

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

About Untangled

This is a podcast for the Bible curious.

Each week Joan will give Damian a passage to read from the bible and they’ll just talk about it.

At their heart, religions promote connection, each offering a unique path toward unity in life in God.

Here’s a place to untangle stories from the Christian Scripture.

Joan and Damian grew up next door to each other in Melbourne’s inner north. 50 years later, they are still great mates and like to chat about all things deep and meaningful.

Joan has read the bible loads of times. She grew up on bible stories, became a church minister, learned from biblical scholars, read books, writes sermons and has been immersed in theological reflections for years.

Damian has never read the bible. He ran an IT business and has been highly suspicious of religion. After a mid-life direction change, Damian retrained as a psychodynamic psychotherapist.

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

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Chapters

Introduction to Jesus' Trial

The Roman Trial Process

The Brutality of Scourging

The Darkness of Crucifixion

The Temple Curtain Torn

Recognition of God's Son

The Role of Women in Suffering

Burial Negotiations

Reflecting on Humanity's Cruelty

Redemption and the Centurion

Conclusion: Staying with Suffering

Chapters

Introduction to Jesus' Trial

The Roman Trial Process

The Brutality of Scourging

The Darkness of Crucifixion

The Temple Curtain Torn

Recognition of God's Son

The Role of Women in Suffering

Burial Negotiations

Reflecting on Humanity's Cruelty

Redemption and the Centurion

Conclusion: Staying with Suffering

Chapters

Introduction to Jesus' Trial

The Roman Trial Process

The Brutality of Scourging

The Darkness of Crucifixion

The Temple Curtain Torn

Recognition of God's Son

The Role of Women in Suffering

Burial Negotiations

Reflecting on Humanity's Cruelty

Redemption and the Centurion

Conclusion: Staying with Suffering

Chapters

Introduction to Jesus' Trial

The Roman Trial Process

The Brutality of Scourging

The Darkness of Crucifixion

The Temple Curtain Torn

Recognition of God's Son

The Role of Women in Suffering

Burial Negotiations

Reflecting on Humanity's Cruelty

Redemption and the Centurion

Conclusion: Staying with Suffering