Surviving High-Conflict Divorce: The Hidden Rules Men MUST Know After 40! || DPTSP #133 || Lisa and Chris

53min | 01/02/2026

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Welcome to another episode of the Don’t Pick the Scab Podcast with David! 🎙️ If you’re a man over 40 facing a high-conflict divorce, navigating a custody battle, or dealing with a narcissistic ex, this episode is your life raft. 🛟

Today, I’m joined by Chris and Lisa, founders of Been There, Got Out—internationally recognized strategists and survivors of their own chaotic divorces. They’ve seen it all: weaponized children, draining legal abuse, and exes who just won’t quit. If you’re dealing with a divorce that feels like psychological warfare, this is the conversation you can’t afford to miss.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

🚩 Early Warning Signs: How to spot if your divorce is about to get ugly—before it’s too late.
💡 Biggest Mistakes Men Make: From trusting your ex too long, to underestimating legal games, to not documenting every detail.
📝 Documentation & Communication: Why “pause” is your new superpower and how to use strategic communication to stay out of your ex’s traps (and out of trouble in court).
👨‍👧‍👦 Co-Parenting Wisdom: How to support your kids and build a parenting plan that stands up—even against a high-conflict ex.
⚖️ Courtroom Survival: Debunking myths about family court, understanding judge bias, and presenting yourself like a pro.
🛠️ Gut-Punch Recovery: How to bounce back from setbacks and develop the marathon mindset needed to win the long game.

Chris and Lisa break down the real-world tactics they share with clients, from picking the right lawyer (it’s not just about “winning”) to setting boundaries and enforcing your rights. With their blend of hard-won wisdom, empathy, and humor, they’ll help you reclaim control, protect your kids, and move from survival to thriving.

BEEN THERE, GOT OUT WEBSITE

Why Watch?

If you’re sick of feeling powerless, confused, or isolated in your divorce recovery, this episode delivers practical tips without sugar-coating the realities men face. Chris offers the male perspective most divorce resources ignore, and Lisa’s teaching background brings clarity to even the most complicated legal messes.

Let’s Talk!

Have you experienced a high-conflict divorce or custody battle? What’s your biggest challenge right now? Drop a comment below with your story or question—let’s build a community where men support men through the toughest chapters. 👇

Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell so you never miss a new episode on thriving after divorce!

#DivorceRecovery #MenOver40 #HighConflictDivorce #CustodyBattle #NarcissisticEx #DontPickTheScab #BeenThereGotOut

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About DON'T PICK THE SCAB PODCAST

Success, Divorce, and Reinvention—You’re Not Alone.

Divorce can shake even the most accomplished men to their core, no matter their age or status. The end of a marriage is often an emotionally and mentally taxing experience, especially for successful men who are accustomed to thriving in other areas of life. That’s why the "Don't Pick the Scab Podcast" is here: a safe, open platform where successful men recovering from divorce can share their stories, find support, and gain practical tools for rebuilding.

Success doesn’t make divorce any easier. When you’re used to winning, starting over—emotionally, financially, and socially—can feel like uncharted territory. The challenges of re-establishing your identity and navigating new roles after a significant breakup are real, but you don’t have to face them alone.

Each episode dives into authentic conversations with men who have walked this path—from entrepreneurs and executives, to leaders in their fields. We explore the unique hurdles successful men encounter during divorce, from managing public perception and careers to processing the deeply personal emotions of grief, regret, anger, and hope. Alongside expert guests, we offer practical advice and proven strategies for healing and growth.

This podcast is about more than just surviving divorce—it’s about thriving in your next chapter. Through shared experiences and actionable insights, "Don't Pick the Scab Podcast" aims to help you rediscover meaning, rebuild confidence, and create a life filled with new possibilities.

Join us each week as we walk the road to recovery, together. Let’s break the stigma, embrace vulnerability, and support one another on the journey to a brighter, more successful future after divorce.

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

About DON'T PICK THE SCAB PODCAST

Success, Divorce, and Reinvention—You’re Not Alone.

Divorce can shake even the most accomplished men to their core, no matter their age or status. The end of a marriage is often an emotionally and mentally taxing experience, especially for successful men who are accustomed to thriving in other areas of life. That’s why the "Don't Pick the Scab Podcast" is here: a safe, open platform where successful men recovering from divorce can share their stories, find support, and gain practical tools for rebuilding.

Success doesn’t make divorce any easier. When you’re used to winning, starting over—emotionally, financially, and socially—can feel like uncharted territory. The challenges of re-establishing your identity and navigating new roles after a significant breakup are real, but you don’t have to face them alone.

Each episode dives into authentic conversations with men who have walked this path—from entrepreneurs and executives, to leaders in their fields. We explore the unique hurdles successful men encounter during divorce, from managing public perception and careers to processing the deeply personal emotions of grief, regret, anger, and hope. Alongside expert guests, we offer practical advice and proven strategies for healing and growth.

This podcast is about more than just surviving divorce—it’s about thriving in your next chapter. Through shared experiences and actionable insights, "Don't Pick the Scab Podcast" aims to help you rediscover meaning, rebuild confidence, and create a life filled with new possibilities.

Join us each week as we walk the road to recovery, together. Let’s break the stigma, embrace vulnerability, and support one another on the journey to a brighter, more successful future after divorce.

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

Description

Welcome to another episode of the Don’t Pick the Scab Podcast with David! 🎙️ If you’re a man over 40 facing a high-conflict divorce, navigating a custody battle, or dealing with a narcissistic ex, this episode is your life raft. 🛟

Today, I’m joined by Chris and Lisa, founders of Been There, Got Out—internationally recognized strategists and survivors of their own chaotic divorces. They’ve seen it all: weaponized children, draining legal abuse, and exes who just won’t quit. If you’re dealing with a divorce that feels like psychological warfare, this is the conversation you can’t afford to miss.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

🚩 Early Warning Signs: How to spot if your divorce is about to get ugly—before it’s too late.
💡 Biggest Mistakes Men Make: From trusting your ex too long, to underestimating legal games, to not documenting every detail.
📝 Documentation & Communication: Why “pause” is your new superpower and how to use strategic communication to stay out of your ex’s traps (and out of trouble in court).
👨‍👧‍👦 Co-Parenting Wisdom: How to support your kids and build a parenting plan that stands up—even against a high-conflict ex.
⚖️ Courtroom Survival: Debunking myths about family court, understanding judge bias, and presenting yourself like a pro.
🛠️ Gut-Punch Recovery: How to bounce back from setbacks and develop the marathon mindset needed to win the long game.

Chris and Lisa break down the real-world tactics they share with clients, from picking the right lawyer (it’s not just about “winning”) to setting boundaries and enforcing your rights. With their blend of hard-won wisdom, empathy, and humor, they’ll help you reclaim control, protect your kids, and move from survival to thriving.

BEEN THERE, GOT OUT WEBSITE

Why Watch?

If you’re sick of feeling powerless, confused, or isolated in your divorce recovery, this episode delivers practical tips without sugar-coating the realities men face. Chris offers the male perspective most divorce resources ignore, and Lisa’s teaching background brings clarity to even the most complicated legal messes.

Let’s Talk!

Have you experienced a high-conflict divorce or custody battle? What’s your biggest challenge right now? Drop a comment below with your story or question—let’s build a community where men support men through the toughest chapters. 👇

Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and hit the bell so you never miss a new episode on thriving after divorce!

#DivorceRecovery #MenOver40 #HighConflictDivorce #CustodyBattle #NarcissisticEx #DontPickTheScab #BeenThereGotOut

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

About DON'T PICK THE SCAB PODCAST

Success, Divorce, and Reinvention—You’re Not Alone.

Divorce can shake even the most accomplished men to their core, no matter their age or status. The end of a marriage is often an emotionally and mentally taxing experience, especially for successful men who are accustomed to thriving in other areas of life. That’s why the "Don't Pick the Scab Podcast" is here: a safe, open platform where successful men recovering from divorce can share their stories, find support, and gain practical tools for rebuilding.

Success doesn’t make divorce any easier. When you’re used to winning, starting over—emotionally, financially, and socially—can feel like uncharted territory. The challenges of re-establishing your identity and navigating new roles after a significant breakup are real, but you don’t have to face them alone.

Each episode dives into authentic conversations with men who have walked this path—from entrepreneurs and executives, to leaders in their fields. We explore the unique hurdles successful men encounter during divorce, from managing public perception and careers to processing the deeply personal emotions of grief, regret, anger, and hope. Alongside expert guests, we offer practical advice and proven strategies for healing and growth.

This podcast is about more than just surviving divorce—it’s about thriving in your next chapter. Through shared experiences and actionable insights, "Don't Pick the Scab Podcast" aims to help you rediscover meaning, rebuild confidence, and create a life filled with new possibilities.

Join us each week as we walk the road to recovery, together. Let’s break the stigma, embrace vulnerability, and support one another on the journey to a brighter, more successful future after divorce.

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

About DON'T PICK THE SCAB PODCAST

Success, Divorce, and Reinvention—You’re Not Alone.

Divorce can shake even the most accomplished men to their core, no matter their age or status. The end of a marriage is often an emotionally and mentally taxing experience, especially for successful men who are accustomed to thriving in other areas of life. That’s why the "Don't Pick the Scab Podcast" is here: a safe, open platform where successful men recovering from divorce can share their stories, find support, and gain practical tools for rebuilding.

Success doesn’t make divorce any easier. When you’re used to winning, starting over—emotionally, financially, and socially—can feel like uncharted territory. The challenges of re-establishing your identity and navigating new roles after a significant breakup are real, but you don’t have to face them alone.

Each episode dives into authentic conversations with men who have walked this path—from entrepreneurs and executives, to leaders in their fields. We explore the unique hurdles successful men encounter during divorce, from managing public perception and careers to processing the deeply personal emotions of grief, regret, anger, and hope. Alongside expert guests, we offer practical advice and proven strategies for healing and growth.

This podcast is about more than just surviving divorce—it’s about thriving in your next chapter. Through shared experiences and actionable insights, "Don't Pick the Scab Podcast" aims to help you rediscover meaning, rebuild confidence, and create a life filled with new possibilities.

Join us each week as we walk the road to recovery, together. Let’s break the stigma, embrace vulnerability, and support one another on the journey to a brighter, more successful future after divorce.

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.

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