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The girls have so much to go through this week from the Irish politician who was allegedly recruited as an agent by Russian intelligence; JoJo Siwas' Beyonce diss; Barry Keoghan's new Burberry campaign; the 2025 Met Gala theme; plus Kamala Harris on Call her Daddy. It's all go this week!
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Let's go, girls. Hello. Good evening. Good morning. Good day. Sweet, sweet tidings to all our lovely hoglets. We are so glad to be back. It's House of Gossip with Clara and Sophie. We are lined up at our trough of goss here. We've got an amuse-bouche, tapas-filled show for you this week. Two weeks ago it was ganache, today we're stripping it back. We've got something for everyone in this pick and mix of an episode. Lots of little tidbits for you to enjoy of showbiz goss. So oink oink, let's go. Soaps, how are you? I'm fabulous.
That was a lovely intro. And once again, I am in a hotel lobby. Excuse.
The business girl you are. I know,
I'm wearing a baseball hat.
hotel lobby it actually is quite celeb style to be fair are you in children's firehouse so we've got a absolute stacked show for you this week so let's get going with what we're loving or hating this week's so what's
grinding your gears or enlightening your soul sadly mine is a grinding my gears situation oh the people on the tube that you come across in london are so fucking rude. I cannot explain that everyone's manners just go out the window. I've started kind of confronting people when it happens. Good. I think we spoke about this a while ago. This one guy just bumped, like walked, turned a corner and walked into me and kept looking down yesterday. And I did it in front of a group of people. I go, sorry, like, it just came out. And he didn't even look up.
Oh!
Is he just playing Candy Crush? This small little guy. And I was like, where is social decorum? At what point do you throw it out? Is it when you go down the escalator? It's appalling. All the morals are out the window. I'm over it.
That's so annoying. And you know, you know when you see people, I've done it before, I've tested a few people in their peripheral vision. And when you see them looking at their phone, walking towards you, I don't move. And you know, you're walking dead straight in. I don't move.
That's brilliant.
Yeah, that's my passive aggression commuting.
yeah and another one walks into the elevator before everyone got out and again i go uh i just go sorry like let's just i like sorry like sorry it comes out of my mouth sorry
like that's great you just some people need need to be told i just think decorum's gone out the window manners gone yeah i was in glasgow a few weeks ago and like everyone there just had like manners respectful yeah i just feel like in
coffee places, tubes, streets, all that kind of stuff. In London, people are so used to getting pushed around. So they push people around. It's an awful, it's an awful standard we'd sell ourselves.
Yeah, I agree.
And you, Gasser, what are you loving or hating?
So I've got a test as well. So we did Andre Agassi's autobiography in our book club. And usually we do fiction for the book club. So we went off piste. Only because this book has been so widely popular and famous. And- It's the same ghostwriter that did Britney's memoir. I can't, I just can't tell you how much I don't like that man. He just was annoying me all week, you know, when you're reading it and you're like, because with a book club, you have to read it. And then I did the, you have to read it. And I finished the second half, mostly second half because I was under time pressure on audio. It's on Spotify premium for free. But he just. can't stop talking about how much he hates tennis the whole thing and he thinks that makes him like really quirky but it's obviously like you're doing it for the money but he just won't admit it and he hates women oh all he does is talk about their fit like all he does is talk about their like physical appearance like when i was brook shields which was pretty juicy but then he kind of turns on her a little bit and apparently she did loads of um uh had to do a few legal battles with him because for how she was being portrayed in the book because like he basically has a go with her like oh I got really into my charity work and kind of like wanks off about how good he is at his charity work and I was like Brooke just wasn't into that I was like I'm sure you're really painting her as like not a very nice girl and I'm like I doubt she and I think she seems sound yeah and I was like I don't think she's divorcing you because you have a charity like that's maybe it's because you're never around and you don't listen to her like he just I hate Well, I really love celebrity memoirs. Like they're just fantastic. Just a hobby of mine is to read them and yeah, they're brilliant. But what you really like with somebody who's honest in them, like Demi Moore, her one perfect example, she paints herself warts and all, and there's a bit of an arc to it. And like, okay, I appreciate like the Hollywood narrative everybody needs is like, oh, here's a difficulty and how I came out of it. But this is just like monotone. It's like he doesn't go into anything. He's like, oh, my mom and my sister got diagnosed with breast cancer on the same day. And that's literally one sentence. And then he'll just talk for on and on and on about the results of loads of tennis matches. And it's like.
Is he French?
It just gets so repetitive. No, Armenian parents, Armenian dad, American mom grew up in Vegas. And much like his Vegas upbringing. Grew up in Vegas? I know. It's like everything's very plastic. Fantastic. They go to Paris. and they complain that no one can understand their accents and stay in their hotel room all day long and order Burger King and then he gets annoyed at the press for saying calling him Burger King. It's like but that's all you did. You didn't and he hates Wimbledon until he wins it. What I love about memoirs is you really get to know the person they feel like a friend. This is just like you just love complaining and then like you're still your same monologue is I hate tennis and then at the end you're like one more game. wink wink it's like what but he did marry Steffi he had this massive crush on Steffi Graf for years and then uh ended up marrying her and they have two kids so but like he never learned anything about Steffi Graf all he would is describe her in her fucking tennis mini dress mini skirt is there can we learn a bit more about Steffi than like what she looks like in a tennis outfit you know there's just no depth shallow little Vegas strip of a man god that's weird he had a bit of a Tiger Woods Serena Williams dad and like it goes in they all have that yeah and like as soon as he leaves home you just don't hear about the dad ever again unless when he's getting heart surgery again one sentence back to all the tennis results it's like there's no anyway just you test Agassi he just was pissing me off all week oh god so yeah rant over what a sad little man what a sad little man now it's time for the news you
Thank you, Clara. So I saw something about this the other day and I brushed by it. I didn't have time to read it.
OK.
But have you seen this thing about there being an Irish politician who's supposedly been recruited as an agent by Russian intelligence? OK, so there was a Sunday Times article, which I couldn't actually read. It was behind the paywall. But they're saying that there's a politician in the Aractus that's been honey trapped by the Russians.
They love honey trapping.
Yeah. So they're saying. And then there was a video of a few senators using their speaking time in the Shannon declaring that they aren't one of these Russian spies. Like that's what they use their time for. And they're calling they're calling this person cobalt. Is the code name. Ooh. Yeah. And Simon Harris is talking about it. Like, it just sounds bizarre. Apparently it had something to do with they would have done this when Brexit was, was it for Brexit? During Brexit negotiations. But he's saying security services are monitoring the politician now who allegedly met Russian handlers outside Dublin. Like, is that not the scariest thing you've ever heard? because I think like as Ireland because we're so like neutral but that's what Simon Harris said he was like you know I think we sadly have to remember like we're not removed from you know the Russians isn't that weird though like it's not like we're all fair game essentially
I initially was like what would a Russian spy want to know about what's going on in Ireland but Braxton does make sense I think I read it with Braxton like the RTE scandal and makes sense
just to make life a little bit i tell so many people about the orphan scandal but yeah they're calling it them cobalt and their identity has been the subject of much discussion is this you know your man richard boyd barrett is it's not my richard that guy's speech i know he's a bit radical extreme but like I adore him he is no he's too extreme I agree what was he what if he was honey trapped imagine he's so passionate as well like I think if you sold him a dream I don't know I love him anyway so apparently there's a Russian spy in the Oireachtas I know it's not funny it's not sorry it's not funny no it's quite serious do you think it's any of the Healy Rays and Kerry no they're two They're too fabulous for that. They get you done. They do. They get you done.
They're not going to be honey trapped in any day. That's crazy. It's very like a Killing Eve or James Bond.
Isn't it? Yeah.
We're not used to this on our waters.
It's kind of like, obviously it is really kind of tainting the Irish water.
Yeah. I'm so used to us not being involved in any like.
Neutral.
Yeah. Used to our neutrality and not, I'm very used to us not being really involved. We can just like.
sit in the sidelines and watch in peace yeah and be passionate about like human rights so watch this space on
I'm assuming it's a guy Mr Cobalt yeah sorry what if it could be a woman being honey trapped I think they said he in something I read you're getting caught for being a spy in Ireland like no one would know what to do like ah japers now oh
if you saw some of them it Some of the senators standing up, like I saw the video, but it didn't have what's signed on. But some of the women were like, I could kind of tell they were just like, I would like to declare that I am not co-bought. Do you know what I mean? Like that must have just been such a weird session. And then it's like, if you don't stand up, does that mean you're them?
Yeah, or surely the spy is going to lie.
Also the reporter who dropped this metaphorical bomb. What's going on there?
Yeah. Are they protected? J'expose. J'expose.
That's my news button for this week. Thank you, Clara, back to you in the studio. Good night.
Thank you so much. We posted about some small little tapas for you. Tapas of goss. Tapas de goss. Ooh. We're going to do a little tête-à-tête of little mini stories back and forth. And I'm going to kick it off with some political just off the back of that hard-hitting news piece.
Thank you. Clap.
Yes. So, call her daddy. Alex Cooper decided to have Kamala Harris, who's doing a huge media frenzy at the moment. She's even doing Howard Stern. She did 60 Minutes. She did The View in a live TV interview, her first ever.
They're all really like you could slip up in those.
Especially in front of those women. I love The View. I watch it every lunchtime do you? oh obsessed with Whoopi?
love her are they not really judgy all along?
no no no they're great love it sometimes it's I do have to take a break because it just gets a bit too like Trump's the worst very like heavy sometimes I'm just like I just want to watch like drag queens or whatever so you know you have to be kind of ready for it but Kamala Harris was on Call Her Daddy Alex Cooper had her on and they travelled to Washington for it so And I listened to the episode and Colour Daddy would have quite a bit of a Taylor Swift audience in the sense that there's a lot of Republicans and Democrats listening. She's got a huge backlash from having Kamala on, predicted anyway, backlash.
Why?
Because she's using her podcast in a political way. So she does talk about like sex relationship and women's issues. She's got 10 million viewers a month, I think. is it an episode? Like next to Jo Ra It's something ridiculous. It's the biggest like female podcast in the US. So if Harris wants to hit Gen Z women like this is your avenue. So I would I think it would have taken a lot of convincing for Alex Cooper to take Harris on because like she'll lose listeners over this. You know, you can't betray your audience going like if you're like a staunch Trump voter and then you're like why are you talking to Democrats? Now she did say in her intro she said it up quite well that she's like I'm not going to Donald Trump's welcome to come on anytime. But, you know, I talk about women's issues. I talk about sexual assault. I talk about abortion rights all on this show. And I'm not going to be talking to Harris about fracking or anything like that or any political views or border control. But I will be talking about about women's issues and abortion and women's rights. And that's basically what they talk about for the whole 40 minutes. So, yeah, I thought it was like an interesting move. I listened to it. Kamala came off like so well. It's like really important and it's really scary. And the one question that I saw a bit of the views around it was like, Alex Cooper never asked Kamala if she had had an abortion. And I thought someone did say, I thought this was interesting because I read some reviews about it. And someone said like, maybe the question was better unasked. Or maybe if it was asked, would Kamala go, that's between me and my doctor. It's nothing to do like... me as a government person shouldn't know if someone's had an abortion. That's between them and their like medical team,
which I thought was kind of interesting. There's definitely a list of like stuff you can't ask.
Yeah. And it was probably better that it wasn't asked because her whole point is like the government shouldn't be involved in women's issues.
Or a man.
There's no law. a man like men shouldn't there's no law that regulates men's health or their bodies why is there one for women's a lot of men who are men deciding and then there's loads of like really stupid clips from senators who don't they don't even know how periods work and it's just like and you're deciding i thought it was really good and like in this media bits i think it's well timed for harris because there's going to be 45 percent of americans are democrats 45 republicans You're basically arguing over the swing states in that middle 10%. So hitting people, getting Gen Z's out there, Taylor Swift's endorsement will hopefully help swing it for Harris's way because it's just too doom and gloomy to even think of a Trump. Again. Trump comes rising again.
Again.
Especially when he says such mad shit. So, yeah, I thought it was an interesting move on both. Both brands. And I really like the way Kamala Harris is doing Howard Stern. It's not like she's just doing The View where she knows she's going to get a good, a warm response. You know, she is going... It's an interesting strategy.
Howard Stern as well is very controversial. His line of questioning is so casual.
Yeah, and then apparently Trump has the hump with Joe Rogan because Joe Rogan was like, wow, around the time of the Democratic National Convention in August. And he was like, wow, like that's a really great campaign. And like, you know, it's done really well. So now Trump is the hump with Rogan. But what would be really interesting, maybe she's dipping her toe in with Howard Stern. But if Kamala did Joe Rogan, because like talking about women's rights on Call Her Daddy, you're speaking to a bit of an echo chamber. Yes, there are a divide in listeners, but it is you're speaking to women about women's rights and you're motivating those women. But where she needs to do the work on is the white males. And like if you did something like Rogan, Would that help? Like it could, that'd be very risky to do, but that would be interesting more if you're going after the people who you're trying to convince. Are you preaching to the choir by, to a certain extent, by doing Call Her Daddy?
Yeah, I agree.
So yeah, but it was interesting. Nice change of like the media cycle for her.
And she gets great guests.
She does. Yeah. And she's not a gotcha girly. You know, no one would, Katy Perry wouldn't be going on that show. Kamala wouldn't be going on that show if she was doing a... Gotcha. Like, I think that's why she gets so many people.
The way she asks questions is very conversational.
And sometimes I think it is very light. It is just, and like, it's always paints them in a good picture. So I think there is a downside to it as well. Well,
remember she interviewed Jojo Siwa? Oh,
of course. Yes.
Which actually crowbars right into my topic. Jojo Siwa. Last week, Jojo Siwa got an award for the 2020, 2024 Industry Dance Awards. I don't know what the award was.
For all her dancing.
Yeah, so I saw a clip, but it was like a recording of a TV. So I couldn't quite get it. So I Googled it. And she wins. And she goes, I also have to say thank you to Beyonce, just so that we can keep the dancing community safe. Beyonce, you've got great music. We all love to dance to it. We all love you. It's obviously about the Diddy thing. Oh. Being like, we really like you. And then she goes, someone had to, and I will be that someone. Like, someone had to say it. It's very awkward.
But, like, in no way, when has Jojo Siwa ever referenced Beyonce before?
She hasn't, that's my point. I honestly, obviously no one tells her no.
She's kissing the ring. Yeah, nobody tells her no.
I thought it was more like being like, Beyonce, I want to say thank you to do so, because of all the allegations, being like, I want to keep my community safe, so thanks. Do you know what I mean?
Wow.
She's like shading her.
Oh, she's shading her.
Yeah. But what I understood it as is she's saying like, because they're saying Beyonce knows about all these rings going on.
Yeah.
This big ring of like sexual abuse and stuff like that. This is what I read as well. She's like saying, thanks, Beyonce, kissing the ring, being like, because if I didn't, my dancing community wouldn't be safe. Right. Yeah.
I don't care with you. Because they had a thing of one of the conspiracies. We might have touched on it last week, but there was a thing where people, if you don't thank Beyonce in your speech, that ring would come for you. So do you think that's why Jojo's doing it as well? Or is she acknowledging? So that's why I say when Adele won the Grammy instead of Beyonce for album of the year, she was like, oh, I have to thank Beyonce. If you don't thank Beyonce, he will come for you. So that's why maybe is that why Jojo did it?
Oh my God, what's going to happen? I have no idea.
Kiss the ring.
I know. What's your next one? Whoa. This tapas is making me salivate.
Yeah. Oh, so they've announced the Met Gala theme for next year,
2025.
Go on, I haven't seen it. So now it's the... exhibition theme. We do not have the dress code, that will be coming out next year. It's based on Monica L. Miller's 2009 book called Slaves to Fashion, Black Dandyism, which is a great word, and the styling of Black Dandyism identity. So it's going to feature garments, paintings, photographs, and more, all exploring the indenible style of Black men in the context of dandyism from the 18th century through to present day. Which I think is so interesting. And we so...
Oh, I'm dying to hear that.
It'll be great to see that evolution. So Miller will be the curator of the show with the curator in charge. You know, you ran Andrew Bolton.
Oh yeah, he's such an academic.
So then Miller told Vogue that dandyism could be defined as dressing wisely and well. She also described it as a strategy and a tool to rethink identity, to reimagine... the self in a different context to really push a boundary, especially during the time of enslavement, to really push a boundary on who and what counts as a human.
Oh, I'm so excited to hear what the dress code is.
Lastly, she said, it'll illustrate how black people transformed from being enslaved and stylized as luxury items to autonomous self-fashioning individuals who are global trendsetters. So the chairs of the Met Gala this year are Euphoria actor Coleman Domingo, Lewis Hamilton, A$AP Rocky and Pharrell.
That's a great lineup. I know. A$AP Rocky is so hot.
Oh, sorry. And, oh, forgot, forgot. The honorary chair making their Met Gala debut is LeBron James. Huh. Huh. Huh. So, yeah, the exhibition is going to be called Superfine Tailoring Black Style. I just thought, OK, we do have all the black men in the... as chairs. But like, I don't know if this is like controversial to say,
but I would have... I'm just, I think I'm thinking the same thing.
Would they not have put a woman in there? Because they've picked very well, because it's a good length and breadth of the different types of black... style but would they black men's fashion style impacted women as well look at TLC look at Miss Elliott even just like the tuxedo yeah and like do we have to be that gender conformist to think that that's weird no
I'd say they get a bit of backlash for that
I would have thought that they it would have been more interesting to have a woman in that lineup yeah that's or non-binary person or you know I just think it's it felt to me a little um rude narrow-minded as you could rude just rude um so yeah looking forward to that i think it'll be a bit better than sleeping beauty's theme of last year with all the flowers like this might be a bit more um thought-provoking and it's not just like people surrounded by a load of petals and roses this could be you could actually do something really clever with it it's one of my favorite events of the year yeah i
think it's fifth of may next year i love that my next um topic on this table of tapas is a new campaign. Burberry have released their new campaign. Who is starring in it? None other than our Barry Keoghan.
Oh, he's a Burberry boy!
Yeah, new outerwear campaign and he's eating breakfast at a cafe wearing a Czech puffer jacket. And the whole thing is an outdoor campaign and they'll call it like the puffer and then Olivia Colman has done one. I can't remember what her item is. And the campaign's called It's Always Burberry Weather where people are now calling it Burberry. in the clip he's like speaking and he's like talking about like he's having like this deep thought with himself it seems like at a table like outside a cafe about why he doesn't talk much and then you realize he's actually talking to a waitress but then you realize he's actually practicing lines with her it's very short it's like 20-25 seconds and then there's a second clip and he's wearing the buffer and they put like an egg on toast in front of him and then he opens brown sauce with his mouth and puts a ton brown sauce all over his plate and that's the clip well Burberry brown sauce and Barry Burberry brown sauce Barry I can't believe Burberry let him do the brown sauce they're really letting him be himself and open it with his teeth wow god he's such what's
the word je ne sais quoi a rogue a zazazoo yeah he's real he's full of mischief he's full of Character mischief. That's the word. Yes. God, I love him.
Yeah. So I'd have a look at that.
That little mite. Now, Colleen Rooney and Rebecca Vardy are back in the headlines. Their lawyers are arguing over the legal fees that Vardy's been made to pay.
But by arguing over the legal fees, it incurs more legal fees.
Yes. ipso facto just let it go girls just let it go let it go but Vardy's the one arguing so when the case was closed was the last year the judge ordered Vardy to pay Rooney 90% of the legal fees obviously we all know Rooney is the queen of revenge and we all know revenge is best served cold and many times over the court case you leading up to the court case, Rooney was trying to keep it out of, and made it very clear and had loads of evidence to keep it out of court because they knew that this would happen. And Vardy said, no, no, no, no, no. So Rooney, queen of revenge, again goes, well, fine then. The bills that they racked up are amazing.
Oh, absurd. Do you know what an hour for a lawyer is like? It's ridiculous.
100%. 1.8 million, the High Court was told, is what they racked up in legal fees.
A cumulative for the two of them?
No, it's her. So no, no, Vardy has to pay her own lawyers. Who she made work on Christmas Day. But this is Rooney's fees.
1.8 million.
1.8 million. So she needs to pay 90%. Like this money should be going to help people. And that's what Colleen said. She was like, this should be used in a totally other way. This is totally avoidable. But she just kept. Imagine having to pay like 2 million pounds for making. for leaking stories, you know, she's really making her papers. So yeah, Vardy's lawyers say Rooney has claimed a legal bill of... And so part of those costs are for the lawyers. And obviously she got really amazing lawyers and top of the bus type. And then the other fees were included for room service, minibar, five star hotel and dinners in Nobu.
For who? The legal team?
Yeah, and Colleen Rooney. Imagine just being like, I know I'm going to fucking win this. Bash, bash, bash. I don't have to pay for this. Yeah. Oh my God. So it's doing it on her dime. They, oh sorry, they were staying at... the Nobu Hotel, including substantial dinner and drinks charges as well as minibar charges. And Vardy's lawyers were arguing that the bill was drawn without sufficient care and had a kitchen sink approach.
Sorry, I love the kitchen sink approach.
That's a great term. Isn't it so funny? And Vardy's lawyers were calling it like unreasonable and disproportionate. And in a ruling on Wednesday, guess what happened? Guess which way it went?
Which way?
It went in favour of Rooney once again and Marty has to pay. So good. Just like, if I was in charge, I was like, you're wasting on every level. You're not even winning.
You lost the second battle. That was so petty anyway.
It's beyond petty. So yeah, a judge ruled that no misconduct by Rooney's lawyers in the Waggath-O'Christie case, says judge. Didn't commit misconduct or knowingly mislead over their legal fees. a judge has ruled and like Vardy was like oh it should have cost half a million not 1.8 and I was like come on you're suing like one of the world's most famous footballers what do you think they're not gonna be staying in Nobu hotels they're not gonna be going to a premier inn like come on the Nobu hotel is so expensive I know imagine just being like this imagine being in the bedroom be like if we win Vardy has to pay for this I've been in a room in there with the minibar and it was just it was ridiculous But you know that episode of Friends where Ross and Rachel get really drunk and he draws the moustache at her. And then she's like really trying to get revenge and she opens up the mini bar and she has the macadamia nuts and she's just like spitting them out. Yeah,
that's definitely a bad thing.
I'd say that's what the Roonies were doing. They were just like, oh,
fuck this. Having a shower with boiled bottled water.
Yeah, like the thing about Vardy is like you haven't learned this whole time. You've defended yourself, you've lost, and now you're fighting over cause. With the woman who is like, she's so good at payback. Why are you trying to outsmart the person who's outsmarted you every single step of the way? You tickle.
She must be in a heap once again.
Once again. Just stop. It's like, stop trying to fight this woman. You're just...
Yeah, just leave it be.
Leave it be. Let it be.
Give up.
Yeah. And then that exactly to your point. I know. Like, you're just racking up more fees. It's so, to your point.
You're racking up more fees because you didn't want to pay those fees. Okay. I say the husband is exhausted.
Like, there's a West End play made about how stupid you were.
All right, sweetie. My final one, and, like, I don't have much findings on it. It's just something I want to note because I feel like there's more to this. Liam Payne is.
Oh,
there's something going on there. I don't know what it is, but we spoke about him.
It's in his eyes.
Last year at some point. No, maybe it was just before the break. We had definitely spoken about something going on, his odd behavior, the ever changing accent. It went to Welsh to then like Middle Eastern. LA. Yeah. People are calling him David Brent.
Sorry. Sorry. How embarrassing.
And then he put up this story on Instagram. I think it was last week and he was going to Niall Horan's concert in Argentina.
I think it was even more embarrassing. I think it was a Snapchat.
That's even more. That's even more unhinged, dare I say. I'm going red from talking about this because it's so bizarre. And he's putting up this story and he's in bed looking real sleepy. And he's like, Yeah, no, I'm going to Argentina to see Niall. We we need to talk. And I think we might just go say hello. And he goes, no bad vibes or anything like that, but we need to talk. And then there was all this footage of him in like one of the hospitality suites and he's dancing to fans like they're turned around by his box and they're looking and he's dancing. What's that great song with the clapping?
Summer lover.
He's a real pussy way, whatever it is. And he's doing that. And like, it just looks really bizarre. And you've heard it here first. something's going on.
And he has had addiction struggles in the past so maybe this is like coming back a little bit. It's a bit of a...
But also they weren't that long ago.
No, and so he's been dropped by his long time manager and apparently since then he's been a bit more erratic. And his second album was due to come out earlier this year. That's been put on hold. There was meant to be a documentary coming out. That's been put on hold. So like I think the people around him know that like things aren't great or like we can't film him in this state. He just seems to be really going through something, but then it's also like highly cringe. So it's like, it's one of those like car crashes where you're like, this guy doesn't seem okay. But then it's also like, why is he? Talking to Niall via Snapchat going like, we need to sort some shit out. Does Niall even want to be there?
I also think, no, definitely not. I also think in the age that we're in, you can expose yourself very quickly for having a moment, basically. And this is what he's doing. And like, if you think about it, like Britney Spears when she was, whenever, you know, with the umbrella, that thing. Imagine she was going on Instagram at the time, like with a streaming consciousness. You'd obviously be like, what's going on here? But that wasn't a thing. And I'm like, someone needs to take his phone.
Yeah. Because like, just put the phone down. And like, so he has a girlfriend now, Kate Cassidy, but his ex-girlfriend is this YouTuber, Maya Henry. Or she's accused Liam of weaponizing the fan base against her and contacting her through loads of mobile phones, like loads of different numbers, two years after they broke up. So like, what used the fan base against her, I assume means like... Like, oh, I hate Maya. And then like you get his fans to troll her or something. And then like using loads of different phone numbers to contact her. Like imagine being his assistant, being like, I have to buy another fucking SIM card so he can prank phone call her.
It seems a bit just erratic.
Yeah. He's had some pretty cringe moments in the last few years since the band officially split up. Like defending Will Smith. Remember when he said like there's three losers in one fight in that weird L.A. accent and said he was like. He had...
Oh my God, everyone, I need to link this video if anyone hasn't seen it. Because it is so funny. Because he's clearly done some kind of narcotics right beforehand.
Yeah, he said he was really drunk.
That's not drunk.
It's not drunk, he's not slurring.
There were three losers in this fight. It's like Welsh.
Yeah, he had the right to do what he did.
I know him personally.
Yeah, it's like he's my neighbour. It's like, okay. And he... And then he went on the Logan Paul. Oh, I know what you're saying. And he was like talking about, he was like, I had the most successful solo career. It's like, hello, have you heard of Harry Styles? What?
Oh, yeah. He said that he got into a fight with one of the One Direction boys. And he was like, and then I said, if you don't remove your hands, I will make sure you never use them again.
Yeah, you'll lose. All right,
Liam.
All right, David Brent. Sounds good. Yeah, I'm sure. Sounds good. And then, so Maya Henry came, was on TikTok the other day and she said that, so everybody thought it was Louis Tomlinson, but it was actually Zayn who pushed him up against the wall. And they have a bit of a feud.
And if he doesn't remove his hands, I'll break your hands. Yeah,
I'll remove them for you. It's like, oh, are you now? Oh, you're well old.
It's a car crash. Just watch this space, girls.
Yeah. I feel really sorry for him, but then also like, the videos are just really...
I do too. Makes me really sad.
It's kind of giving like, army hammer energy when he when the cannibalism stuff was coming out about him uh that's a problem with technology and like phones it's just like like the stream of consciousness can be like just put up online but i also think like one direction were so successful i'm like harry and niall have carved out like niches for themselves yeah in the sense that like you know niall is still like the hometown boy and he's gone down to like ed sheeran kind of guitar grounded kind of you trad vibe and he's been able to stay very true to himself. Harry has gone down the kind of David Bowie Mick Jagger rock star energy. It seems to have like a really good team around him but like to be pushed off a cliff the One Direction fame train to be pushed out of that for the other three lads like Zayn doesn't seem like he had a great childhood and then had his own struggles. Louis the same and Liam too and it's just like Not all five of them are going to go off and have like amazing solo careers. And I think when you're living in the shadow of that, like Beatlemania fame of One Direction.
You'd be so lost.
You'd be so lost. Like, where do you go? And then like, so do you remember when he had that kidney infection?
Yes.
A few years, last year, right? And he was like really gone, really skinny, looked really different. The day, now this is the Daily Mail, so I don't know. But they went to his family's home to be like, how are you getting on? Like to his mum, like to your son. how you're getting on with your son. And she was saying like, oh, I'm really worried about it, blah, blah. They seem quite estranged because they said that she's still living in Wolverhampton in a three-story, 360,000 pound house. And I don't know, like if I was in One Direction, I think I'd be giving my mum a bit of a bigger house. You know, you're a multi-bajillionaire.
Are the parents? Is it the parents or just the mum?
It just said the mum in the article I read. And I was like, why are they describing like what? Now, the Daily Mail is obviously a rag, but like, why are they describing what house?
If she's talking to the Daily Mail, they're not close, I feel.
Yeah, I just, I suppose like.
That's really sad.
It's really sad. Like if you're, not that it's really sad she's living in a £360,000 house.
No, that they're estranged.
But it just seems like, look, I don't know enough about Liam Payne to know if there's an estrangement there. Like, it just doesn't seem like those three lads, Zayn, Louis and. Liam don't seem to have had the same grounding that Harry and Niall do and I just think when you are pushed off that fame bus and then you're expected to like be this amazing solo career like he kind of went down the Justin Timberlake like I'm so sexy route and I think just the pressure to perform and you're probably surrounded by loads of yes people and the pressure to be successful post and when you see Niall and Harry do so well I just think that would do a lot to your psyche it's just so cringe so cringe It's like he's imploding.
It is like David Brent.
But it's like, it's also like a bit scary because you're like, is he okay?
Is he okay?
And like, no one should be given that much yes and attention. Like, it's just a lot.
Well, except for you and me. Yeah,
obviously.
Obviously, we should be told. You and me. Gazzard, that was like a lot of info. I've gone red here in the hotel lobby.
Yes, we did our like chorizo. We did our patatas bravas. We got the full tapas experience.
We totally had a tortilla, Padron peppers. I'm actually starving as well I'm so hungry and it's my turn for a record Gazzer I found this maybe a week or two ago but I've listened to it several times because it involves one of my favourite people icons it is The Perfect Day with Jessica Knappett and it's Dolly Golderton on the episode it's a really good listen my sister was like so if you're like you and Dolly have similarities she was like you hate meetings and she talks about hating meetings And it's a really nice, calm, chilled listen. And with one of my favorite people, Dolly Bullerton. So I'd give that a listen.
Oh, lovely. So what is the premise of that podcast? People just come on and describe what they do in a perfect day?
Their perfect day, yeah.
Wow. And Dolly is such a big imagination.
Yeah. And it's, you know, it's all the lovely things in life. So I think it's a really nice lesson.
Gorge, gorge. I have that downloaded. I really need to listen to it now. Do.
It's really good.
Well, thank you so much, Sophie. And thank you so much for listening. You can follow us on Instagram. at South underscore Lions or at Classic Cabana. We would absolutely love it if you would shout about us from the rooftops from your trough of goths. Sorry,
my cousin was at a wedding in Italy and someone sitting next to her at the table loves our pot. Oh wow,
we're going global. Yeah.
Wow. She like listens to it religiously. Just some girl in Italy.
Well hello to you Italian wedding girl.
I don't know if she is Italian but yeah, let me see if she's Irish but still.
Wedding guest Italian girl.
Hello to you.
Hello. Ciao, Bella. Bella. But yeah, we'd love more of that shouting out. Tell everyone, tell your friends, tell your colleagues, tell your rude commuters. And we will be back next week for some more tasty treats, delights of Goss in. Look, we might have a stew of Goss next week. We might have some fine dining of Goss.
It's all up to the gods of Goss.
It is. And it's all up to those celebs to give us what we need.
Come on, celebs.
Come on. Celebs. Ow, that hurt. Sorry. You have to be careful when you're oinking.
Yeah, I know.
Ow. I'm so starving after all those tapas references.
I'm starving.
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Let's go, girls. Hello. Good evening. Good morning. Good day. Sweet, sweet tidings to all our lovely hoglets. We are so glad to be back. It's House of Gossip with Clara and Sophie. We are lined up at our trough of goss here. We've got an amuse-bouche, tapas-filled show for you this week. Two weeks ago it was ganache, today we're stripping it back. We've got something for everyone in this pick and mix of an episode. Lots of little tidbits for you to enjoy of showbiz goss. So oink oink, let's go. Soaps, how are you? I'm fabulous.
That was a lovely intro. And once again, I am in a hotel lobby. Excuse.
The business girl you are. I know,
I'm wearing a baseball hat.
hotel lobby it actually is quite celeb style to be fair are you in children's firehouse so we've got a absolute stacked show for you this week so let's get going with what we're loving or hating this week's so what's
grinding your gears or enlightening your soul sadly mine is a grinding my gears situation oh the people on the tube that you come across in london are so fucking rude. I cannot explain that everyone's manners just go out the window. I've started kind of confronting people when it happens. Good. I think we spoke about this a while ago. This one guy just bumped, like walked, turned a corner and walked into me and kept looking down yesterday. And I did it in front of a group of people. I go, sorry, like, it just came out. And he didn't even look up.
Oh!
Is he just playing Candy Crush? This small little guy. And I was like, where is social decorum? At what point do you throw it out? Is it when you go down the escalator? It's appalling. All the morals are out the window. I'm over it.
That's so annoying. And you know, you know when you see people, I've done it before, I've tested a few people in their peripheral vision. And when you see them looking at their phone, walking towards you, I don't move. And you know, you're walking dead straight in. I don't move.
That's brilliant.
Yeah, that's my passive aggression commuting.
yeah and another one walks into the elevator before everyone got out and again i go uh i just go sorry like let's just i like sorry like sorry it comes out of my mouth sorry
like that's great you just some people need need to be told i just think decorum's gone out the window manners gone yeah i was in glasgow a few weeks ago and like everyone there just had like manners respectful yeah i just feel like in
coffee places, tubes, streets, all that kind of stuff. In London, people are so used to getting pushed around. So they push people around. It's an awful, it's an awful standard we'd sell ourselves.
Yeah, I agree.
And you, Gasser, what are you loving or hating?
So I've got a test as well. So we did Andre Agassi's autobiography in our book club. And usually we do fiction for the book club. So we went off piste. Only because this book has been so widely popular and famous. And- It's the same ghostwriter that did Britney's memoir. I can't, I just can't tell you how much I don't like that man. He just was annoying me all week, you know, when you're reading it and you're like, because with a book club, you have to read it. And then I did the, you have to read it. And I finished the second half, mostly second half because I was under time pressure on audio. It's on Spotify premium for free. But he just. can't stop talking about how much he hates tennis the whole thing and he thinks that makes him like really quirky but it's obviously like you're doing it for the money but he just won't admit it and he hates women oh all he does is talk about their fit like all he does is talk about their like physical appearance like when i was brook shields which was pretty juicy but then he kind of turns on her a little bit and apparently she did loads of um uh had to do a few legal battles with him because for how she was being portrayed in the book because like he basically has a go with her like oh I got really into my charity work and kind of like wanks off about how good he is at his charity work and I was like Brooke just wasn't into that I was like I'm sure you're really painting her as like not a very nice girl and I'm like I doubt she and I think she seems sound yeah and I was like I don't think she's divorcing you because you have a charity like that's maybe it's because you're never around and you don't listen to her like he just I hate Well, I really love celebrity memoirs. Like they're just fantastic. Just a hobby of mine is to read them and yeah, they're brilliant. But what you really like with somebody who's honest in them, like Demi Moore, her one perfect example, she paints herself warts and all, and there's a bit of an arc to it. And like, okay, I appreciate like the Hollywood narrative everybody needs is like, oh, here's a difficulty and how I came out of it. But this is just like monotone. It's like he doesn't go into anything. He's like, oh, my mom and my sister got diagnosed with breast cancer on the same day. And that's literally one sentence. And then he'll just talk for on and on and on about the results of loads of tennis matches. And it's like.
Is he French?
It just gets so repetitive. No, Armenian parents, Armenian dad, American mom grew up in Vegas. And much like his Vegas upbringing. Grew up in Vegas? I know. It's like everything's very plastic. Fantastic. They go to Paris. and they complain that no one can understand their accents and stay in their hotel room all day long and order Burger King and then he gets annoyed at the press for saying calling him Burger King. It's like but that's all you did. You didn't and he hates Wimbledon until he wins it. What I love about memoirs is you really get to know the person they feel like a friend. This is just like you just love complaining and then like you're still your same monologue is I hate tennis and then at the end you're like one more game. wink wink it's like what but he did marry Steffi he had this massive crush on Steffi Graf for years and then uh ended up marrying her and they have two kids so but like he never learned anything about Steffi Graf all he would is describe her in her fucking tennis mini dress mini skirt is there can we learn a bit more about Steffi than like what she looks like in a tennis outfit you know there's just no depth shallow little Vegas strip of a man god that's weird he had a bit of a Tiger Woods Serena Williams dad and like it goes in they all have that yeah and like as soon as he leaves home you just don't hear about the dad ever again unless when he's getting heart surgery again one sentence back to all the tennis results it's like there's no anyway just you test Agassi he just was pissing me off all week oh god so yeah rant over what a sad little man what a sad little man now it's time for the news you
Thank you, Clara. So I saw something about this the other day and I brushed by it. I didn't have time to read it.
OK.
But have you seen this thing about there being an Irish politician who's supposedly been recruited as an agent by Russian intelligence? OK, so there was a Sunday Times article, which I couldn't actually read. It was behind the paywall. But they're saying that there's a politician in the Aractus that's been honey trapped by the Russians.
They love honey trapping.
Yeah. So they're saying. And then there was a video of a few senators using their speaking time in the Shannon declaring that they aren't one of these Russian spies. Like that's what they use their time for. And they're calling they're calling this person cobalt. Is the code name. Ooh. Yeah. And Simon Harris is talking about it. Like, it just sounds bizarre. Apparently it had something to do with they would have done this when Brexit was, was it for Brexit? During Brexit negotiations. But he's saying security services are monitoring the politician now who allegedly met Russian handlers outside Dublin. Like, is that not the scariest thing you've ever heard? because I think like as Ireland because we're so like neutral but that's what Simon Harris said he was like you know I think we sadly have to remember like we're not removed from you know the Russians isn't that weird though like it's not like we're all fair game essentially
I initially was like what would a Russian spy want to know about what's going on in Ireland but Braxton does make sense I think I read it with Braxton like the RTE scandal and makes sense
just to make life a little bit i tell so many people about the orphan scandal but yeah they're calling it them cobalt and their identity has been the subject of much discussion is this you know your man richard boyd barrett is it's not my richard that guy's speech i know he's a bit radical extreme but like I adore him he is no he's too extreme I agree what was he what if he was honey trapped imagine he's so passionate as well like I think if you sold him a dream I don't know I love him anyway so apparently there's a Russian spy in the Oireachtas I know it's not funny it's not sorry it's not funny no it's quite serious do you think it's any of the Healy Rays and Kerry no they're two They're too fabulous for that. They get you done. They do. They get you done.
They're not going to be honey trapped in any day. That's crazy. It's very like a Killing Eve or James Bond.
Isn't it? Yeah.
We're not used to this on our waters.
It's kind of like, obviously it is really kind of tainting the Irish water.
Yeah. I'm so used to us not being involved in any like.
Neutral.
Yeah. Used to our neutrality and not, I'm very used to us not being really involved. We can just like.
sit in the sidelines and watch in peace yeah and be passionate about like human rights so watch this space on
I'm assuming it's a guy Mr Cobalt yeah sorry what if it could be a woman being honey trapped I think they said he in something I read you're getting caught for being a spy in Ireland like no one would know what to do like ah japers now oh
if you saw some of them it Some of the senators standing up, like I saw the video, but it didn't have what's signed on. But some of the women were like, I could kind of tell they were just like, I would like to declare that I am not co-bought. Do you know what I mean? Like that must have just been such a weird session. And then it's like, if you don't stand up, does that mean you're them?
Yeah, or surely the spy is going to lie.
Also the reporter who dropped this metaphorical bomb. What's going on there?
Yeah. Are they protected? J'expose. J'expose.
That's my news button for this week. Thank you, Clara, back to you in the studio. Good night.
Thank you so much. We posted about some small little tapas for you. Tapas of goss. Tapas de goss. Ooh. We're going to do a little tête-à-tête of little mini stories back and forth. And I'm going to kick it off with some political just off the back of that hard-hitting news piece.
Thank you. Clap.
Yes. So, call her daddy. Alex Cooper decided to have Kamala Harris, who's doing a huge media frenzy at the moment. She's even doing Howard Stern. She did 60 Minutes. She did The View in a live TV interview, her first ever.
They're all really like you could slip up in those.
Especially in front of those women. I love The View. I watch it every lunchtime do you? oh obsessed with Whoopi?
love her are they not really judgy all along?
no no no they're great love it sometimes it's I do have to take a break because it just gets a bit too like Trump's the worst very like heavy sometimes I'm just like I just want to watch like drag queens or whatever so you know you have to be kind of ready for it but Kamala Harris was on Call Her Daddy Alex Cooper had her on and they travelled to Washington for it so And I listened to the episode and Colour Daddy would have quite a bit of a Taylor Swift audience in the sense that there's a lot of Republicans and Democrats listening. She's got a huge backlash from having Kamala on, predicted anyway, backlash.
Why?
Because she's using her podcast in a political way. So she does talk about like sex relationship and women's issues. She's got 10 million viewers a month, I think. is it an episode? Like next to Jo Ra It's something ridiculous. It's the biggest like female podcast in the US. So if Harris wants to hit Gen Z women like this is your avenue. So I would I think it would have taken a lot of convincing for Alex Cooper to take Harris on because like she'll lose listeners over this. You know, you can't betray your audience going like if you're like a staunch Trump voter and then you're like why are you talking to Democrats? Now she did say in her intro she said it up quite well that she's like I'm not going to Donald Trump's welcome to come on anytime. But, you know, I talk about women's issues. I talk about sexual assault. I talk about abortion rights all on this show. And I'm not going to be talking to Harris about fracking or anything like that or any political views or border control. But I will be talking about about women's issues and abortion and women's rights. And that's basically what they talk about for the whole 40 minutes. So, yeah, I thought it was like an interesting move. I listened to it. Kamala came off like so well. It's like really important and it's really scary. And the one question that I saw a bit of the views around it was like, Alex Cooper never asked Kamala if she had had an abortion. And I thought someone did say, I thought this was interesting because I read some reviews about it. And someone said like, maybe the question was better unasked. Or maybe if it was asked, would Kamala go, that's between me and my doctor. It's nothing to do like... me as a government person shouldn't know if someone's had an abortion. That's between them and their like medical team,
which I thought was kind of interesting. There's definitely a list of like stuff you can't ask.
Yeah. And it was probably better that it wasn't asked because her whole point is like the government shouldn't be involved in women's issues.
Or a man.
There's no law. a man like men shouldn't there's no law that regulates men's health or their bodies why is there one for women's a lot of men who are men deciding and then there's loads of like really stupid clips from senators who don't they don't even know how periods work and it's just like and you're deciding i thought it was really good and like in this media bits i think it's well timed for harris because there's going to be 45 percent of americans are democrats 45 republicans You're basically arguing over the swing states in that middle 10%. So hitting people, getting Gen Z's out there, Taylor Swift's endorsement will hopefully help swing it for Harris's way because it's just too doom and gloomy to even think of a Trump. Again. Trump comes rising again.
Again.
Especially when he says such mad shit. So, yeah, I thought it was an interesting move on both. Both brands. And I really like the way Kamala Harris is doing Howard Stern. It's not like she's just doing The View where she knows she's going to get a good, a warm response. You know, she is going... It's an interesting strategy.
Howard Stern as well is very controversial. His line of questioning is so casual.
Yeah, and then apparently Trump has the hump with Joe Rogan because Joe Rogan was like, wow, around the time of the Democratic National Convention in August. And he was like, wow, like that's a really great campaign. And like, you know, it's done really well. So now Trump is the hump with Rogan. But what would be really interesting, maybe she's dipping her toe in with Howard Stern. But if Kamala did Joe Rogan, because like talking about women's rights on Call Her Daddy, you're speaking to a bit of an echo chamber. Yes, there are a divide in listeners, but it is you're speaking to women about women's rights and you're motivating those women. But where she needs to do the work on is the white males. And like if you did something like Rogan, Would that help? Like it could, that'd be very risky to do, but that would be interesting more if you're going after the people who you're trying to convince. Are you preaching to the choir by, to a certain extent, by doing Call Her Daddy?
Yeah, I agree.
So yeah, but it was interesting. Nice change of like the media cycle for her.
And she gets great guests.
She does. Yeah. And she's not a gotcha girly. You know, no one would, Katy Perry wouldn't be going on that show. Kamala wouldn't be going on that show if she was doing a... Gotcha. Like, I think that's why she gets so many people.
The way she asks questions is very conversational.
And sometimes I think it is very light. It is just, and like, it's always paints them in a good picture. So I think there is a downside to it as well. Well,
remember she interviewed Jojo Siwa? Oh,
of course. Yes.
Which actually crowbars right into my topic. Jojo Siwa. Last week, Jojo Siwa got an award for the 2020, 2024 Industry Dance Awards. I don't know what the award was.
For all her dancing.
Yeah, so I saw a clip, but it was like a recording of a TV. So I couldn't quite get it. So I Googled it. And she wins. And she goes, I also have to say thank you to Beyonce, just so that we can keep the dancing community safe. Beyonce, you've got great music. We all love to dance to it. We all love you. It's obviously about the Diddy thing. Oh. Being like, we really like you. And then she goes, someone had to, and I will be that someone. Like, someone had to say it. It's very awkward.
But, like, in no way, when has Jojo Siwa ever referenced Beyonce before?
She hasn't, that's my point. I honestly, obviously no one tells her no.
She's kissing the ring. Yeah, nobody tells her no.
I thought it was more like being like, Beyonce, I want to say thank you to do so, because of all the allegations, being like, I want to keep my community safe, so thanks. Do you know what I mean?
Wow.
She's like shading her.
Oh, she's shading her.
Yeah. But what I understood it as is she's saying like, because they're saying Beyonce knows about all these rings going on.
Yeah.
This big ring of like sexual abuse and stuff like that. This is what I read as well. She's like saying, thanks, Beyonce, kissing the ring, being like, because if I didn't, my dancing community wouldn't be safe. Right. Yeah.
I don't care with you. Because they had a thing of one of the conspiracies. We might have touched on it last week, but there was a thing where people, if you don't thank Beyonce in your speech, that ring would come for you. So do you think that's why Jojo's doing it as well? Or is she acknowledging? So that's why I say when Adele won the Grammy instead of Beyonce for album of the year, she was like, oh, I have to thank Beyonce. If you don't thank Beyonce, he will come for you. So that's why maybe is that why Jojo did it?
Oh my God, what's going to happen? I have no idea.
Kiss the ring.
I know. What's your next one? Whoa. This tapas is making me salivate.
Yeah. Oh, so they've announced the Met Gala theme for next year,
2025.
Go on, I haven't seen it. So now it's the... exhibition theme. We do not have the dress code, that will be coming out next year. It's based on Monica L. Miller's 2009 book called Slaves to Fashion, Black Dandyism, which is a great word, and the styling of Black Dandyism identity. So it's going to feature garments, paintings, photographs, and more, all exploring the indenible style of Black men in the context of dandyism from the 18th century through to present day. Which I think is so interesting. And we so...
Oh, I'm dying to hear that.
It'll be great to see that evolution. So Miller will be the curator of the show with the curator in charge. You know, you ran Andrew Bolton.
Oh yeah, he's such an academic.
So then Miller told Vogue that dandyism could be defined as dressing wisely and well. She also described it as a strategy and a tool to rethink identity, to reimagine... the self in a different context to really push a boundary, especially during the time of enslavement, to really push a boundary on who and what counts as a human.
Oh, I'm so excited to hear what the dress code is.
Lastly, she said, it'll illustrate how black people transformed from being enslaved and stylized as luxury items to autonomous self-fashioning individuals who are global trendsetters. So the chairs of the Met Gala this year are Euphoria actor Coleman Domingo, Lewis Hamilton, A$AP Rocky and Pharrell.
That's a great lineup. I know. A$AP Rocky is so hot.
Oh, sorry. And, oh, forgot, forgot. The honorary chair making their Met Gala debut is LeBron James. Huh. Huh. Huh. So, yeah, the exhibition is going to be called Superfine Tailoring Black Style. I just thought, OK, we do have all the black men in the... as chairs. But like, I don't know if this is like controversial to say,
but I would have... I'm just, I think I'm thinking the same thing.
Would they not have put a woman in there? Because they've picked very well, because it's a good length and breadth of the different types of black... style but would they black men's fashion style impacted women as well look at TLC look at Miss Elliott even just like the tuxedo yeah and like do we have to be that gender conformist to think that that's weird no
I'd say they get a bit of backlash for that
I would have thought that they it would have been more interesting to have a woman in that lineup yeah that's or non-binary person or you know I just think it's it felt to me a little um rude narrow-minded as you could rude just rude um so yeah looking forward to that i think it'll be a bit better than sleeping beauty's theme of last year with all the flowers like this might be a bit more um thought-provoking and it's not just like people surrounded by a load of petals and roses this could be you could actually do something really clever with it it's one of my favorite events of the year yeah i
think it's fifth of may next year i love that my next um topic on this table of tapas is a new campaign. Burberry have released their new campaign. Who is starring in it? None other than our Barry Keoghan.
Oh, he's a Burberry boy!
Yeah, new outerwear campaign and he's eating breakfast at a cafe wearing a Czech puffer jacket. And the whole thing is an outdoor campaign and they'll call it like the puffer and then Olivia Colman has done one. I can't remember what her item is. And the campaign's called It's Always Burberry Weather where people are now calling it Burberry. in the clip he's like speaking and he's like talking about like he's having like this deep thought with himself it seems like at a table like outside a cafe about why he doesn't talk much and then you realize he's actually talking to a waitress but then you realize he's actually practicing lines with her it's very short it's like 20-25 seconds and then there's a second clip and he's wearing the buffer and they put like an egg on toast in front of him and then he opens brown sauce with his mouth and puts a ton brown sauce all over his plate and that's the clip well Burberry brown sauce and Barry Burberry brown sauce Barry I can't believe Burberry let him do the brown sauce they're really letting him be himself and open it with his teeth wow god he's such what's
the word je ne sais quoi a rogue a zazazoo yeah he's real he's full of mischief he's full of Character mischief. That's the word. Yes. God, I love him.
Yeah. So I'd have a look at that.
That little mite. Now, Colleen Rooney and Rebecca Vardy are back in the headlines. Their lawyers are arguing over the legal fees that Vardy's been made to pay.
But by arguing over the legal fees, it incurs more legal fees.
Yes. ipso facto just let it go girls just let it go let it go but Vardy's the one arguing so when the case was closed was the last year the judge ordered Vardy to pay Rooney 90% of the legal fees obviously we all know Rooney is the queen of revenge and we all know revenge is best served cold and many times over the court case you leading up to the court case, Rooney was trying to keep it out of, and made it very clear and had loads of evidence to keep it out of court because they knew that this would happen. And Vardy said, no, no, no, no, no. So Rooney, queen of revenge, again goes, well, fine then. The bills that they racked up are amazing.
Oh, absurd. Do you know what an hour for a lawyer is like? It's ridiculous.
100%. 1.8 million, the High Court was told, is what they racked up in legal fees.
A cumulative for the two of them?
No, it's her. So no, no, Vardy has to pay her own lawyers. Who she made work on Christmas Day. But this is Rooney's fees.
1.8 million.
1.8 million. So she needs to pay 90%. Like this money should be going to help people. And that's what Colleen said. She was like, this should be used in a totally other way. This is totally avoidable. But she just kept. Imagine having to pay like 2 million pounds for making. for leaking stories, you know, she's really making her papers. So yeah, Vardy's lawyers say Rooney has claimed a legal bill of... And so part of those costs are for the lawyers. And obviously she got really amazing lawyers and top of the bus type. And then the other fees were included for room service, minibar, five star hotel and dinners in Nobu.
For who? The legal team?
Yeah, and Colleen Rooney. Imagine just being like, I know I'm going to fucking win this. Bash, bash, bash. I don't have to pay for this. Yeah. Oh my God. So it's doing it on her dime. They, oh sorry, they were staying at... the Nobu Hotel, including substantial dinner and drinks charges as well as minibar charges. And Vardy's lawyers were arguing that the bill was drawn without sufficient care and had a kitchen sink approach.
Sorry, I love the kitchen sink approach.
That's a great term. Isn't it so funny? And Vardy's lawyers were calling it like unreasonable and disproportionate. And in a ruling on Wednesday, guess what happened? Guess which way it went?
Which way?
It went in favour of Rooney once again and Marty has to pay. So good. Just like, if I was in charge, I was like, you're wasting on every level. You're not even winning.
You lost the second battle. That was so petty anyway.
It's beyond petty. So yeah, a judge ruled that no misconduct by Rooney's lawyers in the Waggath-O'Christie case, says judge. Didn't commit misconduct or knowingly mislead over their legal fees. a judge has ruled and like Vardy was like oh it should have cost half a million not 1.8 and I was like come on you're suing like one of the world's most famous footballers what do you think they're not gonna be staying in Nobu hotels they're not gonna be going to a premier inn like come on the Nobu hotel is so expensive I know imagine just being like this imagine being in the bedroom be like if we win Vardy has to pay for this I've been in a room in there with the minibar and it was just it was ridiculous But you know that episode of Friends where Ross and Rachel get really drunk and he draws the moustache at her. And then she's like really trying to get revenge and she opens up the mini bar and she has the macadamia nuts and she's just like spitting them out. Yeah,
that's definitely a bad thing.
I'd say that's what the Roonies were doing. They were just like, oh,
fuck this. Having a shower with boiled bottled water.
Yeah, like the thing about Vardy is like you haven't learned this whole time. You've defended yourself, you've lost, and now you're fighting over cause. With the woman who is like, she's so good at payback. Why are you trying to outsmart the person who's outsmarted you every single step of the way? You tickle.
She must be in a heap once again.
Once again. Just stop. It's like, stop trying to fight this woman. You're just...
Yeah, just leave it be.
Leave it be. Let it be.
Give up.
Yeah. And then that exactly to your point. I know. Like, you're just racking up more fees. It's so, to your point.
You're racking up more fees because you didn't want to pay those fees. Okay. I say the husband is exhausted.
Like, there's a West End play made about how stupid you were.
All right, sweetie. My final one, and, like, I don't have much findings on it. It's just something I want to note because I feel like there's more to this. Liam Payne is.
Oh,
there's something going on there. I don't know what it is, but we spoke about him.
It's in his eyes.
Last year at some point. No, maybe it was just before the break. We had definitely spoken about something going on, his odd behavior, the ever changing accent. It went to Welsh to then like Middle Eastern. LA. Yeah. People are calling him David Brent.
Sorry. Sorry. How embarrassing.
And then he put up this story on Instagram. I think it was last week and he was going to Niall Horan's concert in Argentina.
I think it was even more embarrassing. I think it was a Snapchat.
That's even more. That's even more unhinged, dare I say. I'm going red from talking about this because it's so bizarre. And he's putting up this story and he's in bed looking real sleepy. And he's like, Yeah, no, I'm going to Argentina to see Niall. We we need to talk. And I think we might just go say hello. And he goes, no bad vibes or anything like that, but we need to talk. And then there was all this footage of him in like one of the hospitality suites and he's dancing to fans like they're turned around by his box and they're looking and he's dancing. What's that great song with the clapping?
Summer lover.
He's a real pussy way, whatever it is. And he's doing that. And like, it just looks really bizarre. And you've heard it here first. something's going on.
And he has had addiction struggles in the past so maybe this is like coming back a little bit. It's a bit of a...
But also they weren't that long ago.
No, and so he's been dropped by his long time manager and apparently since then he's been a bit more erratic. And his second album was due to come out earlier this year. That's been put on hold. There was meant to be a documentary coming out. That's been put on hold. So like I think the people around him know that like things aren't great or like we can't film him in this state. He just seems to be really going through something, but then it's also like highly cringe. So it's like, it's one of those like car crashes where you're like, this guy doesn't seem okay. But then it's also like, why is he? Talking to Niall via Snapchat going like, we need to sort some shit out. Does Niall even want to be there?
I also think, no, definitely not. I also think in the age that we're in, you can expose yourself very quickly for having a moment, basically. And this is what he's doing. And like, if you think about it, like Britney Spears when she was, whenever, you know, with the umbrella, that thing. Imagine she was going on Instagram at the time, like with a streaming consciousness. You'd obviously be like, what's going on here? But that wasn't a thing. And I'm like, someone needs to take his phone.
Yeah. Because like, just put the phone down. And like, so he has a girlfriend now, Kate Cassidy, but his ex-girlfriend is this YouTuber, Maya Henry. Or she's accused Liam of weaponizing the fan base against her and contacting her through loads of mobile phones, like loads of different numbers, two years after they broke up. So like, what used the fan base against her, I assume means like... Like, oh, I hate Maya. And then like you get his fans to troll her or something. And then like using loads of different phone numbers to contact her. Like imagine being his assistant, being like, I have to buy another fucking SIM card so he can prank phone call her.
It seems a bit just erratic.
Yeah. He's had some pretty cringe moments in the last few years since the band officially split up. Like defending Will Smith. Remember when he said like there's three losers in one fight in that weird L.A. accent and said he was like. He had...
Oh my God, everyone, I need to link this video if anyone hasn't seen it. Because it is so funny. Because he's clearly done some kind of narcotics right beforehand.
Yeah, he said he was really drunk.
That's not drunk.
It's not drunk, he's not slurring.
There were three losers in this fight. It's like Welsh.
Yeah, he had the right to do what he did.
I know him personally.
Yeah, it's like he's my neighbour. It's like, okay. And he... And then he went on the Logan Paul. Oh, I know what you're saying. And he was like talking about, he was like, I had the most successful solo career. It's like, hello, have you heard of Harry Styles? What?
Oh, yeah. He said that he got into a fight with one of the One Direction boys. And he was like, and then I said, if you don't remove your hands, I will make sure you never use them again.
Yeah, you'll lose. All right,
Liam.
All right, David Brent. Sounds good. Yeah, I'm sure. Sounds good. And then, so Maya Henry came, was on TikTok the other day and she said that, so everybody thought it was Louis Tomlinson, but it was actually Zayn who pushed him up against the wall. And they have a bit of a feud.
And if he doesn't remove his hands, I'll break your hands. Yeah,
I'll remove them for you. It's like, oh, are you now? Oh, you're well old.
It's a car crash. Just watch this space, girls.
Yeah. I feel really sorry for him, but then also like, the videos are just really...
I do too. Makes me really sad.
It's kind of giving like, army hammer energy when he when the cannibalism stuff was coming out about him uh that's a problem with technology and like phones it's just like like the stream of consciousness can be like just put up online but i also think like one direction were so successful i'm like harry and niall have carved out like niches for themselves yeah in the sense that like you know niall is still like the hometown boy and he's gone down to like ed sheeran kind of guitar grounded kind of you trad vibe and he's been able to stay very true to himself. Harry has gone down the kind of David Bowie Mick Jagger rock star energy. It seems to have like a really good team around him but like to be pushed off a cliff the One Direction fame train to be pushed out of that for the other three lads like Zayn doesn't seem like he had a great childhood and then had his own struggles. Louis the same and Liam too and it's just like Not all five of them are going to go off and have like amazing solo careers. And I think when you're living in the shadow of that, like Beatlemania fame of One Direction.
You'd be so lost.
You'd be so lost. Like, where do you go? And then like, so do you remember when he had that kidney infection?
Yes.
A few years, last year, right? And he was like really gone, really skinny, looked really different. The day, now this is the Daily Mail, so I don't know. But they went to his family's home to be like, how are you getting on? Like to his mum, like to your son. how you're getting on with your son. And she was saying like, oh, I'm really worried about it, blah, blah. They seem quite estranged because they said that she's still living in Wolverhampton in a three-story, 360,000 pound house. And I don't know, like if I was in One Direction, I think I'd be giving my mum a bit of a bigger house. You know, you're a multi-bajillionaire.
Are the parents? Is it the parents or just the mum?
It just said the mum in the article I read. And I was like, why are they describing like what? Now, the Daily Mail is obviously a rag, but like, why are they describing what house?
If she's talking to the Daily Mail, they're not close, I feel.
Yeah, I just, I suppose like.
That's really sad.
It's really sad. Like if you're, not that it's really sad she's living in a £360,000 house.
No, that they're estranged.
But it just seems like, look, I don't know enough about Liam Payne to know if there's an estrangement there. Like, it just doesn't seem like those three lads, Zayn, Louis and. Liam don't seem to have had the same grounding that Harry and Niall do and I just think when you are pushed off that fame bus and then you're expected to like be this amazing solo career like he kind of went down the Justin Timberlake like I'm so sexy route and I think just the pressure to perform and you're probably surrounded by loads of yes people and the pressure to be successful post and when you see Niall and Harry do so well I just think that would do a lot to your psyche it's just so cringe so cringe It's like he's imploding.
It is like David Brent.
But it's like, it's also like a bit scary because you're like, is he okay?
Is he okay?
And like, no one should be given that much yes and attention. Like, it's just a lot.
Well, except for you and me. Yeah,
obviously.
Obviously, we should be told. You and me. Gazzard, that was like a lot of info. I've gone red here in the hotel lobby.
Yes, we did our like chorizo. We did our patatas bravas. We got the full tapas experience.
We totally had a tortilla, Padron peppers. I'm actually starving as well I'm so hungry and it's my turn for a record Gazzer I found this maybe a week or two ago but I've listened to it several times because it involves one of my favourite people icons it is The Perfect Day with Jessica Knappett and it's Dolly Golderton on the episode it's a really good listen my sister was like so if you're like you and Dolly have similarities she was like you hate meetings and she talks about hating meetings And it's a really nice, calm, chilled listen. And with one of my favorite people, Dolly Bullerton. So I'd give that a listen.
Oh, lovely. So what is the premise of that podcast? People just come on and describe what they do in a perfect day?
Their perfect day, yeah.
Wow. And Dolly is such a big imagination.
Yeah. And it's, you know, it's all the lovely things in life. So I think it's a really nice lesson.
Gorge, gorge. I have that downloaded. I really need to listen to it now. Do.
It's really good.
Well, thank you so much, Sophie. And thank you so much for listening. You can follow us on Instagram. at South underscore Lions or at Classic Cabana. We would absolutely love it if you would shout about us from the rooftops from your trough of goths. Sorry,
my cousin was at a wedding in Italy and someone sitting next to her at the table loves our pot. Oh wow,
we're going global. Yeah.
Wow. She like listens to it religiously. Just some girl in Italy.
Well hello to you Italian wedding girl.
I don't know if she is Italian but yeah, let me see if she's Irish but still.
Wedding guest Italian girl.
Hello to you.
Hello. Ciao, Bella. Bella. But yeah, we'd love more of that shouting out. Tell everyone, tell your friends, tell your colleagues, tell your rude commuters. And we will be back next week for some more tasty treats, delights of Goss in. Look, we might have a stew of Goss next week. We might have some fine dining of Goss.
It's all up to the gods of Goss.
It is. And it's all up to those celebs to give us what we need.
Come on, celebs.
Come on. Celebs. Ow, that hurt. Sorry. You have to be careful when you're oinking.
Yeah, I know.
Ow. I'm so starving after all those tapas references.
I'm starving.
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Let's go, girls. Hello. Good evening. Good morning. Good day. Sweet, sweet tidings to all our lovely hoglets. We are so glad to be back. It's House of Gossip with Clara and Sophie. We are lined up at our trough of goss here. We've got an amuse-bouche, tapas-filled show for you this week. Two weeks ago it was ganache, today we're stripping it back. We've got something for everyone in this pick and mix of an episode. Lots of little tidbits for you to enjoy of showbiz goss. So oink oink, let's go. Soaps, how are you? I'm fabulous.
That was a lovely intro. And once again, I am in a hotel lobby. Excuse.
The business girl you are. I know,
I'm wearing a baseball hat.
hotel lobby it actually is quite celeb style to be fair are you in children's firehouse so we've got a absolute stacked show for you this week so let's get going with what we're loving or hating this week's so what's
grinding your gears or enlightening your soul sadly mine is a grinding my gears situation oh the people on the tube that you come across in london are so fucking rude. I cannot explain that everyone's manners just go out the window. I've started kind of confronting people when it happens. Good. I think we spoke about this a while ago. This one guy just bumped, like walked, turned a corner and walked into me and kept looking down yesterday. And I did it in front of a group of people. I go, sorry, like, it just came out. And he didn't even look up.
Oh!
Is he just playing Candy Crush? This small little guy. And I was like, where is social decorum? At what point do you throw it out? Is it when you go down the escalator? It's appalling. All the morals are out the window. I'm over it.
That's so annoying. And you know, you know when you see people, I've done it before, I've tested a few people in their peripheral vision. And when you see them looking at their phone, walking towards you, I don't move. And you know, you're walking dead straight in. I don't move.
That's brilliant.
Yeah, that's my passive aggression commuting.
yeah and another one walks into the elevator before everyone got out and again i go uh i just go sorry like let's just i like sorry like sorry it comes out of my mouth sorry
like that's great you just some people need need to be told i just think decorum's gone out the window manners gone yeah i was in glasgow a few weeks ago and like everyone there just had like manners respectful yeah i just feel like in
coffee places, tubes, streets, all that kind of stuff. In London, people are so used to getting pushed around. So they push people around. It's an awful, it's an awful standard we'd sell ourselves.
Yeah, I agree.
And you, Gasser, what are you loving or hating?
So I've got a test as well. So we did Andre Agassi's autobiography in our book club. And usually we do fiction for the book club. So we went off piste. Only because this book has been so widely popular and famous. And- It's the same ghostwriter that did Britney's memoir. I can't, I just can't tell you how much I don't like that man. He just was annoying me all week, you know, when you're reading it and you're like, because with a book club, you have to read it. And then I did the, you have to read it. And I finished the second half, mostly second half because I was under time pressure on audio. It's on Spotify premium for free. But he just. can't stop talking about how much he hates tennis the whole thing and he thinks that makes him like really quirky but it's obviously like you're doing it for the money but he just won't admit it and he hates women oh all he does is talk about their fit like all he does is talk about their like physical appearance like when i was brook shields which was pretty juicy but then he kind of turns on her a little bit and apparently she did loads of um uh had to do a few legal battles with him because for how she was being portrayed in the book because like he basically has a go with her like oh I got really into my charity work and kind of like wanks off about how good he is at his charity work and I was like Brooke just wasn't into that I was like I'm sure you're really painting her as like not a very nice girl and I'm like I doubt she and I think she seems sound yeah and I was like I don't think she's divorcing you because you have a charity like that's maybe it's because you're never around and you don't listen to her like he just I hate Well, I really love celebrity memoirs. Like they're just fantastic. Just a hobby of mine is to read them and yeah, they're brilliant. But what you really like with somebody who's honest in them, like Demi Moore, her one perfect example, she paints herself warts and all, and there's a bit of an arc to it. And like, okay, I appreciate like the Hollywood narrative everybody needs is like, oh, here's a difficulty and how I came out of it. But this is just like monotone. It's like he doesn't go into anything. He's like, oh, my mom and my sister got diagnosed with breast cancer on the same day. And that's literally one sentence. And then he'll just talk for on and on and on about the results of loads of tennis matches. And it's like.
Is he French?
It just gets so repetitive. No, Armenian parents, Armenian dad, American mom grew up in Vegas. And much like his Vegas upbringing. Grew up in Vegas? I know. It's like everything's very plastic. Fantastic. They go to Paris. and they complain that no one can understand their accents and stay in their hotel room all day long and order Burger King and then he gets annoyed at the press for saying calling him Burger King. It's like but that's all you did. You didn't and he hates Wimbledon until he wins it. What I love about memoirs is you really get to know the person they feel like a friend. This is just like you just love complaining and then like you're still your same monologue is I hate tennis and then at the end you're like one more game. wink wink it's like what but he did marry Steffi he had this massive crush on Steffi Graf for years and then uh ended up marrying her and they have two kids so but like he never learned anything about Steffi Graf all he would is describe her in her fucking tennis mini dress mini skirt is there can we learn a bit more about Steffi than like what she looks like in a tennis outfit you know there's just no depth shallow little Vegas strip of a man god that's weird he had a bit of a Tiger Woods Serena Williams dad and like it goes in they all have that yeah and like as soon as he leaves home you just don't hear about the dad ever again unless when he's getting heart surgery again one sentence back to all the tennis results it's like there's no anyway just you test Agassi he just was pissing me off all week oh god so yeah rant over what a sad little man what a sad little man now it's time for the news you
Thank you, Clara. So I saw something about this the other day and I brushed by it. I didn't have time to read it.
OK.
But have you seen this thing about there being an Irish politician who's supposedly been recruited as an agent by Russian intelligence? OK, so there was a Sunday Times article, which I couldn't actually read. It was behind the paywall. But they're saying that there's a politician in the Aractus that's been honey trapped by the Russians.
They love honey trapping.
Yeah. So they're saying. And then there was a video of a few senators using their speaking time in the Shannon declaring that they aren't one of these Russian spies. Like that's what they use their time for. And they're calling they're calling this person cobalt. Is the code name. Ooh. Yeah. And Simon Harris is talking about it. Like, it just sounds bizarre. Apparently it had something to do with they would have done this when Brexit was, was it for Brexit? During Brexit negotiations. But he's saying security services are monitoring the politician now who allegedly met Russian handlers outside Dublin. Like, is that not the scariest thing you've ever heard? because I think like as Ireland because we're so like neutral but that's what Simon Harris said he was like you know I think we sadly have to remember like we're not removed from you know the Russians isn't that weird though like it's not like we're all fair game essentially
I initially was like what would a Russian spy want to know about what's going on in Ireland but Braxton does make sense I think I read it with Braxton like the RTE scandal and makes sense
just to make life a little bit i tell so many people about the orphan scandal but yeah they're calling it them cobalt and their identity has been the subject of much discussion is this you know your man richard boyd barrett is it's not my richard that guy's speech i know he's a bit radical extreme but like I adore him he is no he's too extreme I agree what was he what if he was honey trapped imagine he's so passionate as well like I think if you sold him a dream I don't know I love him anyway so apparently there's a Russian spy in the Oireachtas I know it's not funny it's not sorry it's not funny no it's quite serious do you think it's any of the Healy Rays and Kerry no they're two They're too fabulous for that. They get you done. They do. They get you done.
They're not going to be honey trapped in any day. That's crazy. It's very like a Killing Eve or James Bond.
Isn't it? Yeah.
We're not used to this on our waters.
It's kind of like, obviously it is really kind of tainting the Irish water.
Yeah. I'm so used to us not being involved in any like.
Neutral.
Yeah. Used to our neutrality and not, I'm very used to us not being really involved. We can just like.
sit in the sidelines and watch in peace yeah and be passionate about like human rights so watch this space on
I'm assuming it's a guy Mr Cobalt yeah sorry what if it could be a woman being honey trapped I think they said he in something I read you're getting caught for being a spy in Ireland like no one would know what to do like ah japers now oh
if you saw some of them it Some of the senators standing up, like I saw the video, but it didn't have what's signed on. But some of the women were like, I could kind of tell they were just like, I would like to declare that I am not co-bought. Do you know what I mean? Like that must have just been such a weird session. And then it's like, if you don't stand up, does that mean you're them?
Yeah, or surely the spy is going to lie.
Also the reporter who dropped this metaphorical bomb. What's going on there?
Yeah. Are they protected? J'expose. J'expose.
That's my news button for this week. Thank you, Clara, back to you in the studio. Good night.
Thank you so much. We posted about some small little tapas for you. Tapas of goss. Tapas de goss. Ooh. We're going to do a little tête-à-tête of little mini stories back and forth. And I'm going to kick it off with some political just off the back of that hard-hitting news piece.
Thank you. Clap.
Yes. So, call her daddy. Alex Cooper decided to have Kamala Harris, who's doing a huge media frenzy at the moment. She's even doing Howard Stern. She did 60 Minutes. She did The View in a live TV interview, her first ever.
They're all really like you could slip up in those.
Especially in front of those women. I love The View. I watch it every lunchtime do you? oh obsessed with Whoopi?
love her are they not really judgy all along?
no no no they're great love it sometimes it's I do have to take a break because it just gets a bit too like Trump's the worst very like heavy sometimes I'm just like I just want to watch like drag queens or whatever so you know you have to be kind of ready for it but Kamala Harris was on Call Her Daddy Alex Cooper had her on and they travelled to Washington for it so And I listened to the episode and Colour Daddy would have quite a bit of a Taylor Swift audience in the sense that there's a lot of Republicans and Democrats listening. She's got a huge backlash from having Kamala on, predicted anyway, backlash.
Why?
Because she's using her podcast in a political way. So she does talk about like sex relationship and women's issues. She's got 10 million viewers a month, I think. is it an episode? Like next to Jo Ra It's something ridiculous. It's the biggest like female podcast in the US. So if Harris wants to hit Gen Z women like this is your avenue. So I would I think it would have taken a lot of convincing for Alex Cooper to take Harris on because like she'll lose listeners over this. You know, you can't betray your audience going like if you're like a staunch Trump voter and then you're like why are you talking to Democrats? Now she did say in her intro she said it up quite well that she's like I'm not going to Donald Trump's welcome to come on anytime. But, you know, I talk about women's issues. I talk about sexual assault. I talk about abortion rights all on this show. And I'm not going to be talking to Harris about fracking or anything like that or any political views or border control. But I will be talking about about women's issues and abortion and women's rights. And that's basically what they talk about for the whole 40 minutes. So, yeah, I thought it was like an interesting move. I listened to it. Kamala came off like so well. It's like really important and it's really scary. And the one question that I saw a bit of the views around it was like, Alex Cooper never asked Kamala if she had had an abortion. And I thought someone did say, I thought this was interesting because I read some reviews about it. And someone said like, maybe the question was better unasked. Or maybe if it was asked, would Kamala go, that's between me and my doctor. It's nothing to do like... me as a government person shouldn't know if someone's had an abortion. That's between them and their like medical team,
which I thought was kind of interesting. There's definitely a list of like stuff you can't ask.
Yeah. And it was probably better that it wasn't asked because her whole point is like the government shouldn't be involved in women's issues.
Or a man.
There's no law. a man like men shouldn't there's no law that regulates men's health or their bodies why is there one for women's a lot of men who are men deciding and then there's loads of like really stupid clips from senators who don't they don't even know how periods work and it's just like and you're deciding i thought it was really good and like in this media bits i think it's well timed for harris because there's going to be 45 percent of americans are democrats 45 republicans You're basically arguing over the swing states in that middle 10%. So hitting people, getting Gen Z's out there, Taylor Swift's endorsement will hopefully help swing it for Harris's way because it's just too doom and gloomy to even think of a Trump. Again. Trump comes rising again.
Again.
Especially when he says such mad shit. So, yeah, I thought it was an interesting move on both. Both brands. And I really like the way Kamala Harris is doing Howard Stern. It's not like she's just doing The View where she knows she's going to get a good, a warm response. You know, she is going... It's an interesting strategy.
Howard Stern as well is very controversial. His line of questioning is so casual.
Yeah, and then apparently Trump has the hump with Joe Rogan because Joe Rogan was like, wow, around the time of the Democratic National Convention in August. And he was like, wow, like that's a really great campaign. And like, you know, it's done really well. So now Trump is the hump with Rogan. But what would be really interesting, maybe she's dipping her toe in with Howard Stern. But if Kamala did Joe Rogan, because like talking about women's rights on Call Her Daddy, you're speaking to a bit of an echo chamber. Yes, there are a divide in listeners, but it is you're speaking to women about women's rights and you're motivating those women. But where she needs to do the work on is the white males. And like if you did something like Rogan, Would that help? Like it could, that'd be very risky to do, but that would be interesting more if you're going after the people who you're trying to convince. Are you preaching to the choir by, to a certain extent, by doing Call Her Daddy?
Yeah, I agree.
So yeah, but it was interesting. Nice change of like the media cycle for her.
And she gets great guests.
She does. Yeah. And she's not a gotcha girly. You know, no one would, Katy Perry wouldn't be going on that show. Kamala wouldn't be going on that show if she was doing a... Gotcha. Like, I think that's why she gets so many people.
The way she asks questions is very conversational.
And sometimes I think it is very light. It is just, and like, it's always paints them in a good picture. So I think there is a downside to it as well. Well,
remember she interviewed Jojo Siwa? Oh,
of course. Yes.
Which actually crowbars right into my topic. Jojo Siwa. Last week, Jojo Siwa got an award for the 2020, 2024 Industry Dance Awards. I don't know what the award was.
For all her dancing.
Yeah, so I saw a clip, but it was like a recording of a TV. So I couldn't quite get it. So I Googled it. And she wins. And she goes, I also have to say thank you to Beyonce, just so that we can keep the dancing community safe. Beyonce, you've got great music. We all love to dance to it. We all love you. It's obviously about the Diddy thing. Oh. Being like, we really like you. And then she goes, someone had to, and I will be that someone. Like, someone had to say it. It's very awkward.
But, like, in no way, when has Jojo Siwa ever referenced Beyonce before?
She hasn't, that's my point. I honestly, obviously no one tells her no.
She's kissing the ring. Yeah, nobody tells her no.
I thought it was more like being like, Beyonce, I want to say thank you to do so, because of all the allegations, being like, I want to keep my community safe, so thanks. Do you know what I mean?
Wow.
She's like shading her.
Oh, she's shading her.
Yeah. But what I understood it as is she's saying like, because they're saying Beyonce knows about all these rings going on.
Yeah.
This big ring of like sexual abuse and stuff like that. This is what I read as well. She's like saying, thanks, Beyonce, kissing the ring, being like, because if I didn't, my dancing community wouldn't be safe. Right. Yeah.
I don't care with you. Because they had a thing of one of the conspiracies. We might have touched on it last week, but there was a thing where people, if you don't thank Beyonce in your speech, that ring would come for you. So do you think that's why Jojo's doing it as well? Or is she acknowledging? So that's why I say when Adele won the Grammy instead of Beyonce for album of the year, she was like, oh, I have to thank Beyonce. If you don't thank Beyonce, he will come for you. So that's why maybe is that why Jojo did it?
Oh my God, what's going to happen? I have no idea.
Kiss the ring.
I know. What's your next one? Whoa. This tapas is making me salivate.
Yeah. Oh, so they've announced the Met Gala theme for next year,
2025.
Go on, I haven't seen it. So now it's the... exhibition theme. We do not have the dress code, that will be coming out next year. It's based on Monica L. Miller's 2009 book called Slaves to Fashion, Black Dandyism, which is a great word, and the styling of Black Dandyism identity. So it's going to feature garments, paintings, photographs, and more, all exploring the indenible style of Black men in the context of dandyism from the 18th century through to present day. Which I think is so interesting. And we so...
Oh, I'm dying to hear that.
It'll be great to see that evolution. So Miller will be the curator of the show with the curator in charge. You know, you ran Andrew Bolton.
Oh yeah, he's such an academic.
So then Miller told Vogue that dandyism could be defined as dressing wisely and well. She also described it as a strategy and a tool to rethink identity, to reimagine... the self in a different context to really push a boundary, especially during the time of enslavement, to really push a boundary on who and what counts as a human.
Oh, I'm so excited to hear what the dress code is.
Lastly, she said, it'll illustrate how black people transformed from being enslaved and stylized as luxury items to autonomous self-fashioning individuals who are global trendsetters. So the chairs of the Met Gala this year are Euphoria actor Coleman Domingo, Lewis Hamilton, A$AP Rocky and Pharrell.
That's a great lineup. I know. A$AP Rocky is so hot.
Oh, sorry. And, oh, forgot, forgot. The honorary chair making their Met Gala debut is LeBron James. Huh. Huh. Huh. So, yeah, the exhibition is going to be called Superfine Tailoring Black Style. I just thought, OK, we do have all the black men in the... as chairs. But like, I don't know if this is like controversial to say,
but I would have... I'm just, I think I'm thinking the same thing.
Would they not have put a woman in there? Because they've picked very well, because it's a good length and breadth of the different types of black... style but would they black men's fashion style impacted women as well look at TLC look at Miss Elliott even just like the tuxedo yeah and like do we have to be that gender conformist to think that that's weird no
I'd say they get a bit of backlash for that
I would have thought that they it would have been more interesting to have a woman in that lineup yeah that's or non-binary person or you know I just think it's it felt to me a little um rude narrow-minded as you could rude just rude um so yeah looking forward to that i think it'll be a bit better than sleeping beauty's theme of last year with all the flowers like this might be a bit more um thought-provoking and it's not just like people surrounded by a load of petals and roses this could be you could actually do something really clever with it it's one of my favorite events of the year yeah i
think it's fifth of may next year i love that my next um topic on this table of tapas is a new campaign. Burberry have released their new campaign. Who is starring in it? None other than our Barry Keoghan.
Oh, he's a Burberry boy!
Yeah, new outerwear campaign and he's eating breakfast at a cafe wearing a Czech puffer jacket. And the whole thing is an outdoor campaign and they'll call it like the puffer and then Olivia Colman has done one. I can't remember what her item is. And the campaign's called It's Always Burberry Weather where people are now calling it Burberry. in the clip he's like speaking and he's like talking about like he's having like this deep thought with himself it seems like at a table like outside a cafe about why he doesn't talk much and then you realize he's actually talking to a waitress but then you realize he's actually practicing lines with her it's very short it's like 20-25 seconds and then there's a second clip and he's wearing the buffer and they put like an egg on toast in front of him and then he opens brown sauce with his mouth and puts a ton brown sauce all over his plate and that's the clip well Burberry brown sauce and Barry Burberry brown sauce Barry I can't believe Burberry let him do the brown sauce they're really letting him be himself and open it with his teeth wow god he's such what's
the word je ne sais quoi a rogue a zazazoo yeah he's real he's full of mischief he's full of Character mischief. That's the word. Yes. God, I love him.
Yeah. So I'd have a look at that.
That little mite. Now, Colleen Rooney and Rebecca Vardy are back in the headlines. Their lawyers are arguing over the legal fees that Vardy's been made to pay.
But by arguing over the legal fees, it incurs more legal fees.
Yes. ipso facto just let it go girls just let it go let it go but Vardy's the one arguing so when the case was closed was the last year the judge ordered Vardy to pay Rooney 90% of the legal fees obviously we all know Rooney is the queen of revenge and we all know revenge is best served cold and many times over the court case you leading up to the court case, Rooney was trying to keep it out of, and made it very clear and had loads of evidence to keep it out of court because they knew that this would happen. And Vardy said, no, no, no, no, no. So Rooney, queen of revenge, again goes, well, fine then. The bills that they racked up are amazing.
Oh, absurd. Do you know what an hour for a lawyer is like? It's ridiculous.
100%. 1.8 million, the High Court was told, is what they racked up in legal fees.
A cumulative for the two of them?
No, it's her. So no, no, Vardy has to pay her own lawyers. Who she made work on Christmas Day. But this is Rooney's fees.
1.8 million.
1.8 million. So she needs to pay 90%. Like this money should be going to help people. And that's what Colleen said. She was like, this should be used in a totally other way. This is totally avoidable. But she just kept. Imagine having to pay like 2 million pounds for making. for leaking stories, you know, she's really making her papers. So yeah, Vardy's lawyers say Rooney has claimed a legal bill of... And so part of those costs are for the lawyers. And obviously she got really amazing lawyers and top of the bus type. And then the other fees were included for room service, minibar, five star hotel and dinners in Nobu.
For who? The legal team?
Yeah, and Colleen Rooney. Imagine just being like, I know I'm going to fucking win this. Bash, bash, bash. I don't have to pay for this. Yeah. Oh my God. So it's doing it on her dime. They, oh sorry, they were staying at... the Nobu Hotel, including substantial dinner and drinks charges as well as minibar charges. And Vardy's lawyers were arguing that the bill was drawn without sufficient care and had a kitchen sink approach.
Sorry, I love the kitchen sink approach.
That's a great term. Isn't it so funny? And Vardy's lawyers were calling it like unreasonable and disproportionate. And in a ruling on Wednesday, guess what happened? Guess which way it went?
Which way?
It went in favour of Rooney once again and Marty has to pay. So good. Just like, if I was in charge, I was like, you're wasting on every level. You're not even winning.
You lost the second battle. That was so petty anyway.
It's beyond petty. So yeah, a judge ruled that no misconduct by Rooney's lawyers in the Waggath-O'Christie case, says judge. Didn't commit misconduct or knowingly mislead over their legal fees. a judge has ruled and like Vardy was like oh it should have cost half a million not 1.8 and I was like come on you're suing like one of the world's most famous footballers what do you think they're not gonna be staying in Nobu hotels they're not gonna be going to a premier inn like come on the Nobu hotel is so expensive I know imagine just being like this imagine being in the bedroom be like if we win Vardy has to pay for this I've been in a room in there with the minibar and it was just it was ridiculous But you know that episode of Friends where Ross and Rachel get really drunk and he draws the moustache at her. And then she's like really trying to get revenge and she opens up the mini bar and she has the macadamia nuts and she's just like spitting them out. Yeah,
that's definitely a bad thing.
I'd say that's what the Roonies were doing. They were just like, oh,
fuck this. Having a shower with boiled bottled water.
Yeah, like the thing about Vardy is like you haven't learned this whole time. You've defended yourself, you've lost, and now you're fighting over cause. With the woman who is like, she's so good at payback. Why are you trying to outsmart the person who's outsmarted you every single step of the way? You tickle.
She must be in a heap once again.
Once again. Just stop. It's like, stop trying to fight this woman. You're just...
Yeah, just leave it be.
Leave it be. Let it be.
Give up.
Yeah. And then that exactly to your point. I know. Like, you're just racking up more fees. It's so, to your point.
You're racking up more fees because you didn't want to pay those fees. Okay. I say the husband is exhausted.
Like, there's a West End play made about how stupid you were.
All right, sweetie. My final one, and, like, I don't have much findings on it. It's just something I want to note because I feel like there's more to this. Liam Payne is.
Oh,
there's something going on there. I don't know what it is, but we spoke about him.
It's in his eyes.
Last year at some point. No, maybe it was just before the break. We had definitely spoken about something going on, his odd behavior, the ever changing accent. It went to Welsh to then like Middle Eastern. LA. Yeah. People are calling him David Brent.
Sorry. Sorry. How embarrassing.
And then he put up this story on Instagram. I think it was last week and he was going to Niall Horan's concert in Argentina.
I think it was even more embarrassing. I think it was a Snapchat.
That's even more. That's even more unhinged, dare I say. I'm going red from talking about this because it's so bizarre. And he's putting up this story and he's in bed looking real sleepy. And he's like, Yeah, no, I'm going to Argentina to see Niall. We we need to talk. And I think we might just go say hello. And he goes, no bad vibes or anything like that, but we need to talk. And then there was all this footage of him in like one of the hospitality suites and he's dancing to fans like they're turned around by his box and they're looking and he's dancing. What's that great song with the clapping?
Summer lover.
He's a real pussy way, whatever it is. And he's doing that. And like, it just looks really bizarre. And you've heard it here first. something's going on.
And he has had addiction struggles in the past so maybe this is like coming back a little bit. It's a bit of a...
But also they weren't that long ago.
No, and so he's been dropped by his long time manager and apparently since then he's been a bit more erratic. And his second album was due to come out earlier this year. That's been put on hold. There was meant to be a documentary coming out. That's been put on hold. So like I think the people around him know that like things aren't great or like we can't film him in this state. He just seems to be really going through something, but then it's also like highly cringe. So it's like, it's one of those like car crashes where you're like, this guy doesn't seem okay. But then it's also like, why is he? Talking to Niall via Snapchat going like, we need to sort some shit out. Does Niall even want to be there?
I also think, no, definitely not. I also think in the age that we're in, you can expose yourself very quickly for having a moment, basically. And this is what he's doing. And like, if you think about it, like Britney Spears when she was, whenever, you know, with the umbrella, that thing. Imagine she was going on Instagram at the time, like with a streaming consciousness. You'd obviously be like, what's going on here? But that wasn't a thing. And I'm like, someone needs to take his phone.
Yeah. Because like, just put the phone down. And like, so he has a girlfriend now, Kate Cassidy, but his ex-girlfriend is this YouTuber, Maya Henry. Or she's accused Liam of weaponizing the fan base against her and contacting her through loads of mobile phones, like loads of different numbers, two years after they broke up. So like, what used the fan base against her, I assume means like... Like, oh, I hate Maya. And then like you get his fans to troll her or something. And then like using loads of different phone numbers to contact her. Like imagine being his assistant, being like, I have to buy another fucking SIM card so he can prank phone call her.
It seems a bit just erratic.
Yeah. He's had some pretty cringe moments in the last few years since the band officially split up. Like defending Will Smith. Remember when he said like there's three losers in one fight in that weird L.A. accent and said he was like. He had...
Oh my God, everyone, I need to link this video if anyone hasn't seen it. Because it is so funny. Because he's clearly done some kind of narcotics right beforehand.
Yeah, he said he was really drunk.
That's not drunk.
It's not drunk, he's not slurring.
There were three losers in this fight. It's like Welsh.
Yeah, he had the right to do what he did.
I know him personally.
Yeah, it's like he's my neighbour. It's like, okay. And he... And then he went on the Logan Paul. Oh, I know what you're saying. And he was like talking about, he was like, I had the most successful solo career. It's like, hello, have you heard of Harry Styles? What?
Oh, yeah. He said that he got into a fight with one of the One Direction boys. And he was like, and then I said, if you don't remove your hands, I will make sure you never use them again.
Yeah, you'll lose. All right,
Liam.
All right, David Brent. Sounds good. Yeah, I'm sure. Sounds good. And then, so Maya Henry came, was on TikTok the other day and she said that, so everybody thought it was Louis Tomlinson, but it was actually Zayn who pushed him up against the wall. And they have a bit of a feud.
And if he doesn't remove his hands, I'll break your hands. Yeah,
I'll remove them for you. It's like, oh, are you now? Oh, you're well old.
It's a car crash. Just watch this space, girls.
Yeah. I feel really sorry for him, but then also like, the videos are just really...
I do too. Makes me really sad.
It's kind of giving like, army hammer energy when he when the cannibalism stuff was coming out about him uh that's a problem with technology and like phones it's just like like the stream of consciousness can be like just put up online but i also think like one direction were so successful i'm like harry and niall have carved out like niches for themselves yeah in the sense that like you know niall is still like the hometown boy and he's gone down to like ed sheeran kind of guitar grounded kind of you trad vibe and he's been able to stay very true to himself. Harry has gone down the kind of David Bowie Mick Jagger rock star energy. It seems to have like a really good team around him but like to be pushed off a cliff the One Direction fame train to be pushed out of that for the other three lads like Zayn doesn't seem like he had a great childhood and then had his own struggles. Louis the same and Liam too and it's just like Not all five of them are going to go off and have like amazing solo careers. And I think when you're living in the shadow of that, like Beatlemania fame of One Direction.
You'd be so lost.
You'd be so lost. Like, where do you go? And then like, so do you remember when he had that kidney infection?
Yes.
A few years, last year, right? And he was like really gone, really skinny, looked really different. The day, now this is the Daily Mail, so I don't know. But they went to his family's home to be like, how are you getting on? Like to his mum, like to your son. how you're getting on with your son. And she was saying like, oh, I'm really worried about it, blah, blah. They seem quite estranged because they said that she's still living in Wolverhampton in a three-story, 360,000 pound house. And I don't know, like if I was in One Direction, I think I'd be giving my mum a bit of a bigger house. You know, you're a multi-bajillionaire.
Are the parents? Is it the parents or just the mum?
It just said the mum in the article I read. And I was like, why are they describing like what? Now, the Daily Mail is obviously a rag, but like, why are they describing what house?
If she's talking to the Daily Mail, they're not close, I feel.
Yeah, I just, I suppose like.
That's really sad.
It's really sad. Like if you're, not that it's really sad she's living in a £360,000 house.
No, that they're estranged.
But it just seems like, look, I don't know enough about Liam Payne to know if there's an estrangement there. Like, it just doesn't seem like those three lads, Zayn, Louis and. Liam don't seem to have had the same grounding that Harry and Niall do and I just think when you are pushed off that fame bus and then you're expected to like be this amazing solo career like he kind of went down the Justin Timberlake like I'm so sexy route and I think just the pressure to perform and you're probably surrounded by loads of yes people and the pressure to be successful post and when you see Niall and Harry do so well I just think that would do a lot to your psyche it's just so cringe so cringe It's like he's imploding.
It is like David Brent.
But it's like, it's also like a bit scary because you're like, is he okay?
Is he okay?
And like, no one should be given that much yes and attention. Like, it's just a lot.
Well, except for you and me. Yeah,
obviously.
Obviously, we should be told. You and me. Gazzard, that was like a lot of info. I've gone red here in the hotel lobby.
Yes, we did our like chorizo. We did our patatas bravas. We got the full tapas experience.
We totally had a tortilla, Padron peppers. I'm actually starving as well I'm so hungry and it's my turn for a record Gazzer I found this maybe a week or two ago but I've listened to it several times because it involves one of my favourite people icons it is The Perfect Day with Jessica Knappett and it's Dolly Golderton on the episode it's a really good listen my sister was like so if you're like you and Dolly have similarities she was like you hate meetings and she talks about hating meetings And it's a really nice, calm, chilled listen. And with one of my favorite people, Dolly Bullerton. So I'd give that a listen.
Oh, lovely. So what is the premise of that podcast? People just come on and describe what they do in a perfect day?
Their perfect day, yeah.
Wow. And Dolly is such a big imagination.
Yeah. And it's, you know, it's all the lovely things in life. So I think it's a really nice lesson.
Gorge, gorge. I have that downloaded. I really need to listen to it now. Do.
It's really good.
Well, thank you so much, Sophie. And thank you so much for listening. You can follow us on Instagram. at South underscore Lions or at Classic Cabana. We would absolutely love it if you would shout about us from the rooftops from your trough of goths. Sorry,
my cousin was at a wedding in Italy and someone sitting next to her at the table loves our pot. Oh wow,
we're going global. Yeah.
Wow. She like listens to it religiously. Just some girl in Italy.
Well hello to you Italian wedding girl.
I don't know if she is Italian but yeah, let me see if she's Irish but still.
Wedding guest Italian girl.
Hello to you.
Hello. Ciao, Bella. Bella. But yeah, we'd love more of that shouting out. Tell everyone, tell your friends, tell your colleagues, tell your rude commuters. And we will be back next week for some more tasty treats, delights of Goss in. Look, we might have a stew of Goss next week. We might have some fine dining of Goss.
It's all up to the gods of Goss.
It is. And it's all up to those celebs to give us what we need.
Come on, celebs.
Come on. Celebs. Ow, that hurt. Sorry. You have to be careful when you're oinking.
Yeah, I know.
Ow. I'm so starving after all those tapas references.
I'm starving.
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Let's go, girls. Hello. Good evening. Good morning. Good day. Sweet, sweet tidings to all our lovely hoglets. We are so glad to be back. It's House of Gossip with Clara and Sophie. We are lined up at our trough of goss here. We've got an amuse-bouche, tapas-filled show for you this week. Two weeks ago it was ganache, today we're stripping it back. We've got something for everyone in this pick and mix of an episode. Lots of little tidbits for you to enjoy of showbiz goss. So oink oink, let's go. Soaps, how are you? I'm fabulous.
That was a lovely intro. And once again, I am in a hotel lobby. Excuse.
The business girl you are. I know,
I'm wearing a baseball hat.
hotel lobby it actually is quite celeb style to be fair are you in children's firehouse so we've got a absolute stacked show for you this week so let's get going with what we're loving or hating this week's so what's
grinding your gears or enlightening your soul sadly mine is a grinding my gears situation oh the people on the tube that you come across in london are so fucking rude. I cannot explain that everyone's manners just go out the window. I've started kind of confronting people when it happens. Good. I think we spoke about this a while ago. This one guy just bumped, like walked, turned a corner and walked into me and kept looking down yesterday. And I did it in front of a group of people. I go, sorry, like, it just came out. And he didn't even look up.
Oh!
Is he just playing Candy Crush? This small little guy. And I was like, where is social decorum? At what point do you throw it out? Is it when you go down the escalator? It's appalling. All the morals are out the window. I'm over it.
That's so annoying. And you know, you know when you see people, I've done it before, I've tested a few people in their peripheral vision. And when you see them looking at their phone, walking towards you, I don't move. And you know, you're walking dead straight in. I don't move.
That's brilliant.
Yeah, that's my passive aggression commuting.
yeah and another one walks into the elevator before everyone got out and again i go uh i just go sorry like let's just i like sorry like sorry it comes out of my mouth sorry
like that's great you just some people need need to be told i just think decorum's gone out the window manners gone yeah i was in glasgow a few weeks ago and like everyone there just had like manners respectful yeah i just feel like in
coffee places, tubes, streets, all that kind of stuff. In London, people are so used to getting pushed around. So they push people around. It's an awful, it's an awful standard we'd sell ourselves.
Yeah, I agree.
And you, Gasser, what are you loving or hating?
So I've got a test as well. So we did Andre Agassi's autobiography in our book club. And usually we do fiction for the book club. So we went off piste. Only because this book has been so widely popular and famous. And- It's the same ghostwriter that did Britney's memoir. I can't, I just can't tell you how much I don't like that man. He just was annoying me all week, you know, when you're reading it and you're like, because with a book club, you have to read it. And then I did the, you have to read it. And I finished the second half, mostly second half because I was under time pressure on audio. It's on Spotify premium for free. But he just. can't stop talking about how much he hates tennis the whole thing and he thinks that makes him like really quirky but it's obviously like you're doing it for the money but he just won't admit it and he hates women oh all he does is talk about their fit like all he does is talk about their like physical appearance like when i was brook shields which was pretty juicy but then he kind of turns on her a little bit and apparently she did loads of um uh had to do a few legal battles with him because for how she was being portrayed in the book because like he basically has a go with her like oh I got really into my charity work and kind of like wanks off about how good he is at his charity work and I was like Brooke just wasn't into that I was like I'm sure you're really painting her as like not a very nice girl and I'm like I doubt she and I think she seems sound yeah and I was like I don't think she's divorcing you because you have a charity like that's maybe it's because you're never around and you don't listen to her like he just I hate Well, I really love celebrity memoirs. Like they're just fantastic. Just a hobby of mine is to read them and yeah, they're brilliant. But what you really like with somebody who's honest in them, like Demi Moore, her one perfect example, she paints herself warts and all, and there's a bit of an arc to it. And like, okay, I appreciate like the Hollywood narrative everybody needs is like, oh, here's a difficulty and how I came out of it. But this is just like monotone. It's like he doesn't go into anything. He's like, oh, my mom and my sister got diagnosed with breast cancer on the same day. And that's literally one sentence. And then he'll just talk for on and on and on about the results of loads of tennis matches. And it's like.
Is he French?
It just gets so repetitive. No, Armenian parents, Armenian dad, American mom grew up in Vegas. And much like his Vegas upbringing. Grew up in Vegas? I know. It's like everything's very plastic. Fantastic. They go to Paris. and they complain that no one can understand their accents and stay in their hotel room all day long and order Burger King and then he gets annoyed at the press for saying calling him Burger King. It's like but that's all you did. You didn't and he hates Wimbledon until he wins it. What I love about memoirs is you really get to know the person they feel like a friend. This is just like you just love complaining and then like you're still your same monologue is I hate tennis and then at the end you're like one more game. wink wink it's like what but he did marry Steffi he had this massive crush on Steffi Graf for years and then uh ended up marrying her and they have two kids so but like he never learned anything about Steffi Graf all he would is describe her in her fucking tennis mini dress mini skirt is there can we learn a bit more about Steffi than like what she looks like in a tennis outfit you know there's just no depth shallow little Vegas strip of a man god that's weird he had a bit of a Tiger Woods Serena Williams dad and like it goes in they all have that yeah and like as soon as he leaves home you just don't hear about the dad ever again unless when he's getting heart surgery again one sentence back to all the tennis results it's like there's no anyway just you test Agassi he just was pissing me off all week oh god so yeah rant over what a sad little man what a sad little man now it's time for the news you
Thank you, Clara. So I saw something about this the other day and I brushed by it. I didn't have time to read it.
OK.
But have you seen this thing about there being an Irish politician who's supposedly been recruited as an agent by Russian intelligence? OK, so there was a Sunday Times article, which I couldn't actually read. It was behind the paywall. But they're saying that there's a politician in the Aractus that's been honey trapped by the Russians.
They love honey trapping.
Yeah. So they're saying. And then there was a video of a few senators using their speaking time in the Shannon declaring that they aren't one of these Russian spies. Like that's what they use their time for. And they're calling they're calling this person cobalt. Is the code name. Ooh. Yeah. And Simon Harris is talking about it. Like, it just sounds bizarre. Apparently it had something to do with they would have done this when Brexit was, was it for Brexit? During Brexit negotiations. But he's saying security services are monitoring the politician now who allegedly met Russian handlers outside Dublin. Like, is that not the scariest thing you've ever heard? because I think like as Ireland because we're so like neutral but that's what Simon Harris said he was like you know I think we sadly have to remember like we're not removed from you know the Russians isn't that weird though like it's not like we're all fair game essentially
I initially was like what would a Russian spy want to know about what's going on in Ireland but Braxton does make sense I think I read it with Braxton like the RTE scandal and makes sense
just to make life a little bit i tell so many people about the orphan scandal but yeah they're calling it them cobalt and their identity has been the subject of much discussion is this you know your man richard boyd barrett is it's not my richard that guy's speech i know he's a bit radical extreme but like I adore him he is no he's too extreme I agree what was he what if he was honey trapped imagine he's so passionate as well like I think if you sold him a dream I don't know I love him anyway so apparently there's a Russian spy in the Oireachtas I know it's not funny it's not sorry it's not funny no it's quite serious do you think it's any of the Healy Rays and Kerry no they're two They're too fabulous for that. They get you done. They do. They get you done.
They're not going to be honey trapped in any day. That's crazy. It's very like a Killing Eve or James Bond.
Isn't it? Yeah.
We're not used to this on our waters.
It's kind of like, obviously it is really kind of tainting the Irish water.
Yeah. I'm so used to us not being involved in any like.
Neutral.
Yeah. Used to our neutrality and not, I'm very used to us not being really involved. We can just like.
sit in the sidelines and watch in peace yeah and be passionate about like human rights so watch this space on
I'm assuming it's a guy Mr Cobalt yeah sorry what if it could be a woman being honey trapped I think they said he in something I read you're getting caught for being a spy in Ireland like no one would know what to do like ah japers now oh
if you saw some of them it Some of the senators standing up, like I saw the video, but it didn't have what's signed on. But some of the women were like, I could kind of tell they were just like, I would like to declare that I am not co-bought. Do you know what I mean? Like that must have just been such a weird session. And then it's like, if you don't stand up, does that mean you're them?
Yeah, or surely the spy is going to lie.
Also the reporter who dropped this metaphorical bomb. What's going on there?
Yeah. Are they protected? J'expose. J'expose.
That's my news button for this week. Thank you, Clara, back to you in the studio. Good night.
Thank you so much. We posted about some small little tapas for you. Tapas of goss. Tapas de goss. Ooh. We're going to do a little tête-à-tête of little mini stories back and forth. And I'm going to kick it off with some political just off the back of that hard-hitting news piece.
Thank you. Clap.
Yes. So, call her daddy. Alex Cooper decided to have Kamala Harris, who's doing a huge media frenzy at the moment. She's even doing Howard Stern. She did 60 Minutes. She did The View in a live TV interview, her first ever.
They're all really like you could slip up in those.
Especially in front of those women. I love The View. I watch it every lunchtime do you? oh obsessed with Whoopi?
love her are they not really judgy all along?
no no no they're great love it sometimes it's I do have to take a break because it just gets a bit too like Trump's the worst very like heavy sometimes I'm just like I just want to watch like drag queens or whatever so you know you have to be kind of ready for it but Kamala Harris was on Call Her Daddy Alex Cooper had her on and they travelled to Washington for it so And I listened to the episode and Colour Daddy would have quite a bit of a Taylor Swift audience in the sense that there's a lot of Republicans and Democrats listening. She's got a huge backlash from having Kamala on, predicted anyway, backlash.
Why?
Because she's using her podcast in a political way. So she does talk about like sex relationship and women's issues. She's got 10 million viewers a month, I think. is it an episode? Like next to Jo Ra It's something ridiculous. It's the biggest like female podcast in the US. So if Harris wants to hit Gen Z women like this is your avenue. So I would I think it would have taken a lot of convincing for Alex Cooper to take Harris on because like she'll lose listeners over this. You know, you can't betray your audience going like if you're like a staunch Trump voter and then you're like why are you talking to Democrats? Now she did say in her intro she said it up quite well that she's like I'm not going to Donald Trump's welcome to come on anytime. But, you know, I talk about women's issues. I talk about sexual assault. I talk about abortion rights all on this show. And I'm not going to be talking to Harris about fracking or anything like that or any political views or border control. But I will be talking about about women's issues and abortion and women's rights. And that's basically what they talk about for the whole 40 minutes. So, yeah, I thought it was like an interesting move. I listened to it. Kamala came off like so well. It's like really important and it's really scary. And the one question that I saw a bit of the views around it was like, Alex Cooper never asked Kamala if she had had an abortion. And I thought someone did say, I thought this was interesting because I read some reviews about it. And someone said like, maybe the question was better unasked. Or maybe if it was asked, would Kamala go, that's between me and my doctor. It's nothing to do like... me as a government person shouldn't know if someone's had an abortion. That's between them and their like medical team,
which I thought was kind of interesting. There's definitely a list of like stuff you can't ask.
Yeah. And it was probably better that it wasn't asked because her whole point is like the government shouldn't be involved in women's issues.
Or a man.
There's no law. a man like men shouldn't there's no law that regulates men's health or their bodies why is there one for women's a lot of men who are men deciding and then there's loads of like really stupid clips from senators who don't they don't even know how periods work and it's just like and you're deciding i thought it was really good and like in this media bits i think it's well timed for harris because there's going to be 45 percent of americans are democrats 45 republicans You're basically arguing over the swing states in that middle 10%. So hitting people, getting Gen Z's out there, Taylor Swift's endorsement will hopefully help swing it for Harris's way because it's just too doom and gloomy to even think of a Trump. Again. Trump comes rising again.
Again.
Especially when he says such mad shit. So, yeah, I thought it was an interesting move on both. Both brands. And I really like the way Kamala Harris is doing Howard Stern. It's not like she's just doing The View where she knows she's going to get a good, a warm response. You know, she is going... It's an interesting strategy.
Howard Stern as well is very controversial. His line of questioning is so casual.
Yeah, and then apparently Trump has the hump with Joe Rogan because Joe Rogan was like, wow, around the time of the Democratic National Convention in August. And he was like, wow, like that's a really great campaign. And like, you know, it's done really well. So now Trump is the hump with Rogan. But what would be really interesting, maybe she's dipping her toe in with Howard Stern. But if Kamala did Joe Rogan, because like talking about women's rights on Call Her Daddy, you're speaking to a bit of an echo chamber. Yes, there are a divide in listeners, but it is you're speaking to women about women's rights and you're motivating those women. But where she needs to do the work on is the white males. And like if you did something like Rogan, Would that help? Like it could, that'd be very risky to do, but that would be interesting more if you're going after the people who you're trying to convince. Are you preaching to the choir by, to a certain extent, by doing Call Her Daddy?
Yeah, I agree.
So yeah, but it was interesting. Nice change of like the media cycle for her.
And she gets great guests.
She does. Yeah. And she's not a gotcha girly. You know, no one would, Katy Perry wouldn't be going on that show. Kamala wouldn't be going on that show if she was doing a... Gotcha. Like, I think that's why she gets so many people.
The way she asks questions is very conversational.
And sometimes I think it is very light. It is just, and like, it's always paints them in a good picture. So I think there is a downside to it as well. Well,
remember she interviewed Jojo Siwa? Oh,
of course. Yes.
Which actually crowbars right into my topic. Jojo Siwa. Last week, Jojo Siwa got an award for the 2020, 2024 Industry Dance Awards. I don't know what the award was.
For all her dancing.
Yeah, so I saw a clip, but it was like a recording of a TV. So I couldn't quite get it. So I Googled it. And she wins. And she goes, I also have to say thank you to Beyonce, just so that we can keep the dancing community safe. Beyonce, you've got great music. We all love to dance to it. We all love you. It's obviously about the Diddy thing. Oh. Being like, we really like you. And then she goes, someone had to, and I will be that someone. Like, someone had to say it. It's very awkward.
But, like, in no way, when has Jojo Siwa ever referenced Beyonce before?
She hasn't, that's my point. I honestly, obviously no one tells her no.
She's kissing the ring. Yeah, nobody tells her no.
I thought it was more like being like, Beyonce, I want to say thank you to do so, because of all the allegations, being like, I want to keep my community safe, so thanks. Do you know what I mean?
Wow.
She's like shading her.
Oh, she's shading her.
Yeah. But what I understood it as is she's saying like, because they're saying Beyonce knows about all these rings going on.
Yeah.
This big ring of like sexual abuse and stuff like that. This is what I read as well. She's like saying, thanks, Beyonce, kissing the ring, being like, because if I didn't, my dancing community wouldn't be safe. Right. Yeah.
I don't care with you. Because they had a thing of one of the conspiracies. We might have touched on it last week, but there was a thing where people, if you don't thank Beyonce in your speech, that ring would come for you. So do you think that's why Jojo's doing it as well? Or is she acknowledging? So that's why I say when Adele won the Grammy instead of Beyonce for album of the year, she was like, oh, I have to thank Beyonce. If you don't thank Beyonce, he will come for you. So that's why maybe is that why Jojo did it?
Oh my God, what's going to happen? I have no idea.
Kiss the ring.
I know. What's your next one? Whoa. This tapas is making me salivate.
Yeah. Oh, so they've announced the Met Gala theme for next year,
2025.
Go on, I haven't seen it. So now it's the... exhibition theme. We do not have the dress code, that will be coming out next year. It's based on Monica L. Miller's 2009 book called Slaves to Fashion, Black Dandyism, which is a great word, and the styling of Black Dandyism identity. So it's going to feature garments, paintings, photographs, and more, all exploring the indenible style of Black men in the context of dandyism from the 18th century through to present day. Which I think is so interesting. And we so...
Oh, I'm dying to hear that.
It'll be great to see that evolution. So Miller will be the curator of the show with the curator in charge. You know, you ran Andrew Bolton.
Oh yeah, he's such an academic.
So then Miller told Vogue that dandyism could be defined as dressing wisely and well. She also described it as a strategy and a tool to rethink identity, to reimagine... the self in a different context to really push a boundary, especially during the time of enslavement, to really push a boundary on who and what counts as a human.
Oh, I'm so excited to hear what the dress code is.
Lastly, she said, it'll illustrate how black people transformed from being enslaved and stylized as luxury items to autonomous self-fashioning individuals who are global trendsetters. So the chairs of the Met Gala this year are Euphoria actor Coleman Domingo, Lewis Hamilton, A$AP Rocky and Pharrell.
That's a great lineup. I know. A$AP Rocky is so hot.
Oh, sorry. And, oh, forgot, forgot. The honorary chair making their Met Gala debut is LeBron James. Huh. Huh. Huh. So, yeah, the exhibition is going to be called Superfine Tailoring Black Style. I just thought, OK, we do have all the black men in the... as chairs. But like, I don't know if this is like controversial to say,
but I would have... I'm just, I think I'm thinking the same thing.
Would they not have put a woman in there? Because they've picked very well, because it's a good length and breadth of the different types of black... style but would they black men's fashion style impacted women as well look at TLC look at Miss Elliott even just like the tuxedo yeah and like do we have to be that gender conformist to think that that's weird no
I'd say they get a bit of backlash for that
I would have thought that they it would have been more interesting to have a woman in that lineup yeah that's or non-binary person or you know I just think it's it felt to me a little um rude narrow-minded as you could rude just rude um so yeah looking forward to that i think it'll be a bit better than sleeping beauty's theme of last year with all the flowers like this might be a bit more um thought-provoking and it's not just like people surrounded by a load of petals and roses this could be you could actually do something really clever with it it's one of my favorite events of the year yeah i
think it's fifth of may next year i love that my next um topic on this table of tapas is a new campaign. Burberry have released their new campaign. Who is starring in it? None other than our Barry Keoghan.
Oh, he's a Burberry boy!
Yeah, new outerwear campaign and he's eating breakfast at a cafe wearing a Czech puffer jacket. And the whole thing is an outdoor campaign and they'll call it like the puffer and then Olivia Colman has done one. I can't remember what her item is. And the campaign's called It's Always Burberry Weather where people are now calling it Burberry. in the clip he's like speaking and he's like talking about like he's having like this deep thought with himself it seems like at a table like outside a cafe about why he doesn't talk much and then you realize he's actually talking to a waitress but then you realize he's actually practicing lines with her it's very short it's like 20-25 seconds and then there's a second clip and he's wearing the buffer and they put like an egg on toast in front of him and then he opens brown sauce with his mouth and puts a ton brown sauce all over his plate and that's the clip well Burberry brown sauce and Barry Burberry brown sauce Barry I can't believe Burberry let him do the brown sauce they're really letting him be himself and open it with his teeth wow god he's such what's
the word je ne sais quoi a rogue a zazazoo yeah he's real he's full of mischief he's full of Character mischief. That's the word. Yes. God, I love him.
Yeah. So I'd have a look at that.
That little mite. Now, Colleen Rooney and Rebecca Vardy are back in the headlines. Their lawyers are arguing over the legal fees that Vardy's been made to pay.
But by arguing over the legal fees, it incurs more legal fees.
Yes. ipso facto just let it go girls just let it go let it go but Vardy's the one arguing so when the case was closed was the last year the judge ordered Vardy to pay Rooney 90% of the legal fees obviously we all know Rooney is the queen of revenge and we all know revenge is best served cold and many times over the court case you leading up to the court case, Rooney was trying to keep it out of, and made it very clear and had loads of evidence to keep it out of court because they knew that this would happen. And Vardy said, no, no, no, no, no. So Rooney, queen of revenge, again goes, well, fine then. The bills that they racked up are amazing.
Oh, absurd. Do you know what an hour for a lawyer is like? It's ridiculous.
100%. 1.8 million, the High Court was told, is what they racked up in legal fees.
A cumulative for the two of them?
No, it's her. So no, no, Vardy has to pay her own lawyers. Who she made work on Christmas Day. But this is Rooney's fees.
1.8 million.
1.8 million. So she needs to pay 90%. Like this money should be going to help people. And that's what Colleen said. She was like, this should be used in a totally other way. This is totally avoidable. But she just kept. Imagine having to pay like 2 million pounds for making. for leaking stories, you know, she's really making her papers. So yeah, Vardy's lawyers say Rooney has claimed a legal bill of... And so part of those costs are for the lawyers. And obviously she got really amazing lawyers and top of the bus type. And then the other fees were included for room service, minibar, five star hotel and dinners in Nobu.
For who? The legal team?
Yeah, and Colleen Rooney. Imagine just being like, I know I'm going to fucking win this. Bash, bash, bash. I don't have to pay for this. Yeah. Oh my God. So it's doing it on her dime. They, oh sorry, they were staying at... the Nobu Hotel, including substantial dinner and drinks charges as well as minibar charges. And Vardy's lawyers were arguing that the bill was drawn without sufficient care and had a kitchen sink approach.
Sorry, I love the kitchen sink approach.
That's a great term. Isn't it so funny? And Vardy's lawyers were calling it like unreasonable and disproportionate. And in a ruling on Wednesday, guess what happened? Guess which way it went?
Which way?
It went in favour of Rooney once again and Marty has to pay. So good. Just like, if I was in charge, I was like, you're wasting on every level. You're not even winning.
You lost the second battle. That was so petty anyway.
It's beyond petty. So yeah, a judge ruled that no misconduct by Rooney's lawyers in the Waggath-O'Christie case, says judge. Didn't commit misconduct or knowingly mislead over their legal fees. a judge has ruled and like Vardy was like oh it should have cost half a million not 1.8 and I was like come on you're suing like one of the world's most famous footballers what do you think they're not gonna be staying in Nobu hotels they're not gonna be going to a premier inn like come on the Nobu hotel is so expensive I know imagine just being like this imagine being in the bedroom be like if we win Vardy has to pay for this I've been in a room in there with the minibar and it was just it was ridiculous But you know that episode of Friends where Ross and Rachel get really drunk and he draws the moustache at her. And then she's like really trying to get revenge and she opens up the mini bar and she has the macadamia nuts and she's just like spitting them out. Yeah,
that's definitely a bad thing.
I'd say that's what the Roonies were doing. They were just like, oh,
fuck this. Having a shower with boiled bottled water.
Yeah, like the thing about Vardy is like you haven't learned this whole time. You've defended yourself, you've lost, and now you're fighting over cause. With the woman who is like, she's so good at payback. Why are you trying to outsmart the person who's outsmarted you every single step of the way? You tickle.
She must be in a heap once again.
Once again. Just stop. It's like, stop trying to fight this woman. You're just...
Yeah, just leave it be.
Leave it be. Let it be.
Give up.
Yeah. And then that exactly to your point. I know. Like, you're just racking up more fees. It's so, to your point.
You're racking up more fees because you didn't want to pay those fees. Okay. I say the husband is exhausted.
Like, there's a West End play made about how stupid you were.
All right, sweetie. My final one, and, like, I don't have much findings on it. It's just something I want to note because I feel like there's more to this. Liam Payne is.
Oh,
there's something going on there. I don't know what it is, but we spoke about him.
It's in his eyes.
Last year at some point. No, maybe it was just before the break. We had definitely spoken about something going on, his odd behavior, the ever changing accent. It went to Welsh to then like Middle Eastern. LA. Yeah. People are calling him David Brent.
Sorry. Sorry. How embarrassing.
And then he put up this story on Instagram. I think it was last week and he was going to Niall Horan's concert in Argentina.
I think it was even more embarrassing. I think it was a Snapchat.
That's even more. That's even more unhinged, dare I say. I'm going red from talking about this because it's so bizarre. And he's putting up this story and he's in bed looking real sleepy. And he's like, Yeah, no, I'm going to Argentina to see Niall. We we need to talk. And I think we might just go say hello. And he goes, no bad vibes or anything like that, but we need to talk. And then there was all this footage of him in like one of the hospitality suites and he's dancing to fans like they're turned around by his box and they're looking and he's dancing. What's that great song with the clapping?
Summer lover.
He's a real pussy way, whatever it is. And he's doing that. And like, it just looks really bizarre. And you've heard it here first. something's going on.
And he has had addiction struggles in the past so maybe this is like coming back a little bit. It's a bit of a...
But also they weren't that long ago.
No, and so he's been dropped by his long time manager and apparently since then he's been a bit more erratic. And his second album was due to come out earlier this year. That's been put on hold. There was meant to be a documentary coming out. That's been put on hold. So like I think the people around him know that like things aren't great or like we can't film him in this state. He just seems to be really going through something, but then it's also like highly cringe. So it's like, it's one of those like car crashes where you're like, this guy doesn't seem okay. But then it's also like, why is he? Talking to Niall via Snapchat going like, we need to sort some shit out. Does Niall even want to be there?
I also think, no, definitely not. I also think in the age that we're in, you can expose yourself very quickly for having a moment, basically. And this is what he's doing. And like, if you think about it, like Britney Spears when she was, whenever, you know, with the umbrella, that thing. Imagine she was going on Instagram at the time, like with a streaming consciousness. You'd obviously be like, what's going on here? But that wasn't a thing. And I'm like, someone needs to take his phone.
Yeah. Because like, just put the phone down. And like, so he has a girlfriend now, Kate Cassidy, but his ex-girlfriend is this YouTuber, Maya Henry. Or she's accused Liam of weaponizing the fan base against her and contacting her through loads of mobile phones, like loads of different numbers, two years after they broke up. So like, what used the fan base against her, I assume means like... Like, oh, I hate Maya. And then like you get his fans to troll her or something. And then like using loads of different phone numbers to contact her. Like imagine being his assistant, being like, I have to buy another fucking SIM card so he can prank phone call her.
It seems a bit just erratic.
Yeah. He's had some pretty cringe moments in the last few years since the band officially split up. Like defending Will Smith. Remember when he said like there's three losers in one fight in that weird L.A. accent and said he was like. He had...
Oh my God, everyone, I need to link this video if anyone hasn't seen it. Because it is so funny. Because he's clearly done some kind of narcotics right beforehand.
Yeah, he said he was really drunk.
That's not drunk.
It's not drunk, he's not slurring.
There were three losers in this fight. It's like Welsh.
Yeah, he had the right to do what he did.
I know him personally.
Yeah, it's like he's my neighbour. It's like, okay. And he... And then he went on the Logan Paul. Oh, I know what you're saying. And he was like talking about, he was like, I had the most successful solo career. It's like, hello, have you heard of Harry Styles? What?
Oh, yeah. He said that he got into a fight with one of the One Direction boys. And he was like, and then I said, if you don't remove your hands, I will make sure you never use them again.
Yeah, you'll lose. All right,
Liam.
All right, David Brent. Sounds good. Yeah, I'm sure. Sounds good. And then, so Maya Henry came, was on TikTok the other day and she said that, so everybody thought it was Louis Tomlinson, but it was actually Zayn who pushed him up against the wall. And they have a bit of a feud.
And if he doesn't remove his hands, I'll break your hands. Yeah,
I'll remove them for you. It's like, oh, are you now? Oh, you're well old.
It's a car crash. Just watch this space, girls.
Yeah. I feel really sorry for him, but then also like, the videos are just really...
I do too. Makes me really sad.
It's kind of giving like, army hammer energy when he when the cannibalism stuff was coming out about him uh that's a problem with technology and like phones it's just like like the stream of consciousness can be like just put up online but i also think like one direction were so successful i'm like harry and niall have carved out like niches for themselves yeah in the sense that like you know niall is still like the hometown boy and he's gone down to like ed sheeran kind of guitar grounded kind of you trad vibe and he's been able to stay very true to himself. Harry has gone down the kind of David Bowie Mick Jagger rock star energy. It seems to have like a really good team around him but like to be pushed off a cliff the One Direction fame train to be pushed out of that for the other three lads like Zayn doesn't seem like he had a great childhood and then had his own struggles. Louis the same and Liam too and it's just like Not all five of them are going to go off and have like amazing solo careers. And I think when you're living in the shadow of that, like Beatlemania fame of One Direction.
You'd be so lost.
You'd be so lost. Like, where do you go? And then like, so do you remember when he had that kidney infection?
Yes.
A few years, last year, right? And he was like really gone, really skinny, looked really different. The day, now this is the Daily Mail, so I don't know. But they went to his family's home to be like, how are you getting on? Like to his mum, like to your son. how you're getting on with your son. And she was saying like, oh, I'm really worried about it, blah, blah. They seem quite estranged because they said that she's still living in Wolverhampton in a three-story, 360,000 pound house. And I don't know, like if I was in One Direction, I think I'd be giving my mum a bit of a bigger house. You know, you're a multi-bajillionaire.
Are the parents? Is it the parents or just the mum?
It just said the mum in the article I read. And I was like, why are they describing like what? Now, the Daily Mail is obviously a rag, but like, why are they describing what house?
If she's talking to the Daily Mail, they're not close, I feel.
Yeah, I just, I suppose like.
That's really sad.
It's really sad. Like if you're, not that it's really sad she's living in a £360,000 house.
No, that they're estranged.
But it just seems like, look, I don't know enough about Liam Payne to know if there's an estrangement there. Like, it just doesn't seem like those three lads, Zayn, Louis and. Liam don't seem to have had the same grounding that Harry and Niall do and I just think when you are pushed off that fame bus and then you're expected to like be this amazing solo career like he kind of went down the Justin Timberlake like I'm so sexy route and I think just the pressure to perform and you're probably surrounded by loads of yes people and the pressure to be successful post and when you see Niall and Harry do so well I just think that would do a lot to your psyche it's just so cringe so cringe It's like he's imploding.
It is like David Brent.
But it's like, it's also like a bit scary because you're like, is he okay?
Is he okay?
And like, no one should be given that much yes and attention. Like, it's just a lot.
Well, except for you and me. Yeah,
obviously.
Obviously, we should be told. You and me. Gazzard, that was like a lot of info. I've gone red here in the hotel lobby.
Yes, we did our like chorizo. We did our patatas bravas. We got the full tapas experience.
We totally had a tortilla, Padron peppers. I'm actually starving as well I'm so hungry and it's my turn for a record Gazzer I found this maybe a week or two ago but I've listened to it several times because it involves one of my favourite people icons it is The Perfect Day with Jessica Knappett and it's Dolly Golderton on the episode it's a really good listen my sister was like so if you're like you and Dolly have similarities she was like you hate meetings and she talks about hating meetings And it's a really nice, calm, chilled listen. And with one of my favorite people, Dolly Bullerton. So I'd give that a listen.
Oh, lovely. So what is the premise of that podcast? People just come on and describe what they do in a perfect day?
Their perfect day, yeah.
Wow. And Dolly is such a big imagination.
Yeah. And it's, you know, it's all the lovely things in life. So I think it's a really nice lesson.
Gorge, gorge. I have that downloaded. I really need to listen to it now. Do.
It's really good.
Well, thank you so much, Sophie. And thank you so much for listening. You can follow us on Instagram. at South underscore Lions or at Classic Cabana. We would absolutely love it if you would shout about us from the rooftops from your trough of goths. Sorry,
my cousin was at a wedding in Italy and someone sitting next to her at the table loves our pot. Oh wow,
we're going global. Yeah.
Wow. She like listens to it religiously. Just some girl in Italy.
Well hello to you Italian wedding girl.
I don't know if she is Italian but yeah, let me see if she's Irish but still.
Wedding guest Italian girl.
Hello to you.
Hello. Ciao, Bella. Bella. But yeah, we'd love more of that shouting out. Tell everyone, tell your friends, tell your colleagues, tell your rude commuters. And we will be back next week for some more tasty treats, delights of Goss in. Look, we might have a stew of Goss next week. We might have some fine dining of Goss.
It's all up to the gods of Goss.
It is. And it's all up to those celebs to give us what we need.
Come on, celebs.
Come on. Celebs. Ow, that hurt. Sorry. You have to be careful when you're oinking.
Yeah, I know.
Ow. I'm so starving after all those tapas references.
I'm starving.
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