- Speaker #0
Hello and welcome back to House of Gossip. I never know what sort of tone I'm going to take. Is it going to be newsreader? Is it going to be fun? I'm going to do both. Great Tuesday morning, if you're listening to that on Tuesday morning. I'm Sophie Lyons. I'm here with the iconic shaman herself, Clara Kavna, live from London. The sun is shining. We're recording this on a Friday. Clara, how are you today?
- Speaker #1
I'm so good. excited to be here great to be here great to gas yeah thank you happy Sunday no it's Friday sorry we will do Rojador's energy test up top but
- Speaker #0
I had a great time doing the Met gala special with you I love it every year yeah it's a good it's a wonderful time of year and I think everyone likes to get involved
- Speaker #1
I was just thinking like surely it's a security nightmare all those people are worth like billions of dollars together and because the Met itself
- Speaker #0
would have insane security anyway. That's so true. Let's kick it off. Clara, what's your J'adore as you test this week?
- Speaker #1
My J'adore, it was a long time coming, but over the bank holiday weekend, went to see Titanic in London. And oh my God, pack your bags immediately. Hop aboard. It is a musical satire about the movie and it is every bit as good as I thought it was going to be. an hour and a half no intermission they wouldn't sell us a bottle of rose but they'd sell us four glasses so of course you had to double park but it is such a fun laugh a minute i need to go see it like four more times so all the jokes get into my like psyche it is so funny it's running in london now until i think october november like it's staying on because i thought it was finishing in june but it's i think they're like refreshing the cast or something who cares it is the most impeccable fun bit of theatre I've seen in so long. They use a lot of Sleetion songs I've never heard before, but you won't leave feeling short changed. It is hilarious, knee slapping. The cultural references. Rose's mum is played by a middle aged man who's extremely sassy and it is the best casting I've ever seen. And they were like, come on Ruth, what are you doing? And she's there going, my best! Oh, and the iceberg is so good. The iceberg is phenomenal. I won't say any spoilers or anything like that, but...
- Speaker #0
I blacked out when I saw it.
- Speaker #1
Probably from joy and overstimulation. Unbelievable.
- Speaker #0
I saw it last year and like none of what you're saying I recall.
- Speaker #1
Oh, it's so funny. So it's basically a story of Titanic. told via the music of Celine Dion and they really lean into her being like kind of kooky and oh I'm just an everyday girlie like you but really I'm just like shall we go for it? yeah yeah so and they the Celine character really leans into it and she's just trying to be real subtle but obviously she's a big diva superstar so it is so funny I also just love that Mick comes to these things I know yeah so one of the work was like oh is it a hen? I was like no it's a double date It was great. It was so great. But it was really funny. Like, ever, the crowd was amazing. The theatre's tiny.
- Speaker #0
That was the same when I saw it. The theatre was very small.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, which is nice. Whereas my sister saw it in Sydney and said it was more like a school holla kind of vibe.
- Speaker #0
She saw it in Sydney?
- Speaker #1
Yeah, it's everywhere. It's all over the globe.
- Speaker #0
Oh, not with the same people, is it? I doubt it.
- Speaker #1
No, no, no. What are you doing? I was just asking. I have a feeling I know it's a story.
- Speaker #0
I couldn't not say it. Asap Rocky and then Rihanna on top of it like what they have together and like you know they were friends for years were they yeah yeah yeah years and years and then she was in he asked her to be in one of her music videos and they only got together and he was in relationship she was in relationships and they were always friendly and then they got together kind of during COVID I think they went on a road trip and now like looking at them together I'm like that's what like elevated love is They are so entangled with each other. You can tell they're a proper, like, unit. Yeah.
- Speaker #1
It's palpable.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. It's like looking at something really magic. It's like looking at magic, I think.
- Speaker #1
It's, I think relationships, my dad always said this, one and one needs to equal three, you know.
- Speaker #0
When you said this to me initially, when I was having some relationship issues, you know, I always say that now. Yeah.
- Speaker #1
And it's as easy as that. And with A$AP Rocky and Rihanna, it is one and one is three. There's a magic.
- Speaker #0
It's like one on one is 10. Yeah,
- Speaker #1
yeah, yeah.
- Speaker #0
I love the way they like the fashion that they do. And he's just so obsessed with her. And they're always holding hands. Anyone who knows me knows I'm a big hand holder. He was kissing her paw at the Met Gala when they were taking a photo together. Like just the two of them together. And besides that fact, I really fancy him. Yes,
- Speaker #1
he is. He's really glowing. Oh,
- Speaker #0
my God. I went on a rabbit hole looking him up last night. I'm still kind of off Instagram, but I was looking at it via House of Gossip. I've just like having a celeb crush now. It's like, oh, it's great.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, it's great. And he was on Seth Meyers with Anna Wintour. Who was, sorry, totally lying and telling everyone how much she loved Andrea Leontali. And as we were speaking about in our special episode, she hated him and they were in a feud for years and she fired him really unceremoniously. But anyway, he was so charming.
- Speaker #0
That smile.
- Speaker #1
ASAP Rocky. Yeah, he was so charming.
- Speaker #0
He was just sitting there with Anna Wintour. He was like, I'm just here.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. And like very like funny and comfortable in his own skin and just a bit like, yeah, it's great.
- Speaker #0
So hot. And then when he has the babies. Oh, um. Gee, if anyone knows anyone like him for me, please send them over. Now, moving on.
- Speaker #1
Yes, sir.
- Speaker #0
We have a good few topics today. One of them actually is off the back of the Met Gala. You and I were saying it and then I found something on it and I was like, we have to talk about this. We didn't speak about it in our Met Gala episode. And partially because her outfit wasn't much for me. She was wearing Carly and Herrera, but she looked unbelievable. Anne Hathaway. This woman is 42 years old. Everyone is saying she's had some work done because she looks sensational. I've read it online. People are suggesting a bryolift, a jaw lift. And then they said the hair, the pullback hair and the large hair is to distract from what she's had done.
- Speaker #1
whoever her plastic surgeon is whoa interesting yeah because that's when they often say like say if a Kardashian for example bleaches their hair or Miley Cyrus has done it where they get facial work done but they bleach they change their hair so it's distracting oh I didn't know that yeah it's a little trick it's like an optical illusion wasn't she at like there was some runway fashion show she was at and it was a similar hair and she honestly never looked better the looks she was serving I mean like in her face It would stop traffic, break glass, but like she still looks the same.
- Speaker #0
She's kind of like Julia Roberts in that sense, isn't she? She's had to have something done.
- Speaker #1
She must have Brad Pitt's facelift. Yeah, something crazy. It's a bit like the Christina Aguilera renaissance.
- Speaker #0
And Lindsay Lohan.
- Speaker #1
Whatever is going on, it's show stopping, traffic stopping, time stopping, insane. Pity about her personality. Calma,
- Speaker #0
calm. terrible she must be exhausted we were saying i was like do you think anathway goes home and just turns herself off like plugs herself into charge her husband like her husband must just have the battery pack plugged in plugs her in at night there's no way that woman has energy when she gets home to chat she couldn't
- Speaker #1
On those red carpet interviews, she was like, yeah, I'm doing this school run in the morning. Who knows what state I'll be in?
- Speaker #0
She was at an after party, not a chance she was doing a school run. No. Do you know who she was with? Who looks bonkers. And I think she is bonkers from what I've heard. Charlotte Elbury.
- Speaker #1
Yes, I saw that. And Stella McCartney, I saw a photo.
- Speaker #0
Oh, well, we know Stella McCartney likes to have crack.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
But too much.
- Speaker #0
I also don't like the way there's multiple after parties for the Met. I want everyone to go to the same one.
- Speaker #1
There's never any like gossip in any of the articles, but like the photos look like everyone's having like a good time.
- Speaker #0
Oh my God. Can you imagine the gossip? I'd say there is a lot of drugs. There is a lot of bitching. A lot of like, I'm not going over there. You can't come to that after party.
- Speaker #1
A hundred percent. Oh,
- Speaker #0
to be a fly on the wall.
- Speaker #1
Or I'd love to be like a waiter or something. So you can kind of like go around, but you look like kind of like a fly on the wall. Obviously, I'd love to be invited more than anything.
- Speaker #0
Well, you know, they get all models to be the waitstaff. Oh, wow. It's no, like, normal waitstaff. It's all models waitstaff.
- Speaker #1
Wow. I would, yeah, just try and earwig as much as I can.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, but then I think they'd probably stop talking when you come around.
- Speaker #1
True.
- Speaker #0
I'd like to just be, like, a low level. Yeah. So everyone knows by my costume that I'm part of the crew, but they don't know where my level is. Anyway, Anna Wintour was saying she doesn't go to the after parties because she feels that people won't be their false elves if she's there. Which I think is fair.
- Speaker #1
Of course they won't.
- Speaker #0
Anyway, Anna Hathaway, have a look at her face. She looks really good and we need to get a hold on her plastic surgeon.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, and dial them up immediately.
- Speaker #0
Speaking of the Met Gala, we've spoken about it before, but there's a continuing situation going on and it's being reported everywhere. And they actually didn't attend the Met Gala this year, even though they were supposed to. It's none other than the Peltz Beckhams. Nicola and Brooklyn were supposed to go to the Met but they pulled out because of the drama that's going on. And the drama is that they didn't go to any of the 50th celebrations for David.
- Speaker #1
He's having like, I think there's three celebrations in one weekend. He had that one in Miami. Like he's really embracing this half century.
- Speaker #0
He had one in like Kensington, one in the Cotswolds, one in France and one in Miami. And I'm imagining a lot of the same people would be there.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, it's almost like he's bringing himself to the parties. Like, you know, he's got friends in Miami, so he'll have a party there so they don't have to travel. And then he's like, I'll do one in London, I'll do one in the Cotswolds.
- Speaker #0
I mean, it's a great press piece for them, like for their brand.
- Speaker #1
But yeah, I feel like the American press are really catching on now because we spoke about this a few weeks ago, but the American press are really running with it now. So from what I've read... It looked like it was a feud between the brothers, between Romeo and Brooklyn, over Romeo's girlfriend, Kim.
- Speaker #0
That's what I think we said originally.
- Speaker #1
Yes. And like, I think that could be part of it. It might not just be one thing. And Romeo is going out with his like ex-girlfriend, who Brooklyn thinks is a bit of a fame chaser. But then page six, one of their journalists was on saying that like, no, it actually goes back further to when... Nicola and Brooklyn got married. So Nicola is part of the Peltz dynasty. They basically invented Wendy's and her dad, Nelson Peltz, tried to buy Disney when it went up for sale a few years ago.
- Speaker #0
They invented Wendy's. Interesting.
- Speaker #1
They're like the dynasty behind Wendy's. So they're like bajillionaires, like richer than the Beckhams. And then there was that whole feud, remember, around the wedding where Victoria had designed a dress for Nicola, which she refused to wear. Then the dad, Nelson Peltz, tried to sue the wedding planners.
- Speaker #0
Oh my God, excellent.
- Speaker #1
I know. And I think that case has been settled now, but for various reasons. And then all these like text messages got leaked. All these emails got leaked. And like...
- Speaker #0
Oh my God, I need to reread those.
- Speaker #1
Brooklyn wanted like a his and hers burger van at the party at some point. Maybe it's like the late night food. And he wanted his and hers burgers. And there'd be a regular burger for the men and a lettuce burger for the girls with a pink flag. And then Nicola apparently chimes in on one of the chains and was like, ignore him. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Sorry,
- Speaker #0
I'm obsessed with that.
- Speaker #1
You can't gender food. Like, come on. Like, at that late at night, you definitely want a big, fat, cheesy burger.
- Speaker #0
No, I thought you were going to say, like, do a normal burger and a vegan burger or something.
- Speaker #1
No, no. It was, you know, the lettuce bun.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, I think they call it a rabbit style. Oh, brother.
- Speaker #1
Anyway, some of the conversations online I've seen are a bit more like. It's actually more to do with David and Victoria than it has to do with... The girlfriend. ...than the whole brother feud. This has kind of come from TMZ that a source, maybe a publicist for Nicola, who knows, inverted commas, that Nicola feels that the Beckhams do not support her and she always supports their business ventures.
- Speaker #0
I have to stop you there. They're very sound to her. Yeah. They went to that weird premiere of her movie in London and made a big song and dance about it and she had commissioned the movie herself.
- Speaker #1
Oh.
- Speaker #0
So great. And they all went to the premiere and like...
- Speaker #1
It's a bit like Daddy Buy Me My Fame. It's such an epo, baby.
- Speaker #0
Oh, totally.
- Speaker #1
And apparently Victoria's been accused, TMZ said, of during a wedding or some kind of big family event, Victoria ran up to the dance floor and pushed Nicola out of the way. It's just like, oh God. But then US Weekly said that it's actually more to do with Brooklyn. Essentially, a source said that he is an issue with everything. He is difficult and traumatic and David and Victoria are over it right now. Their Instagram is filled with having fun, inverted commas, all over the world, but it's a bit flat and lifeless. They are harmless and charmless. Do we need to add attention seeking and tiring to the list? They've only been married for three years. Their marriage is a toddler. I can't imagine when it goes to puberty.
- Speaker #0
Ouch! It is just so not their style to have a feud because their whole brand is like, everyone hears rumours about it, but their whole brand is this family thing. And so it's just so awkward.
- Speaker #1
They could easily squash this, but they're not.
- Speaker #0
But I thought they did. Do you remember they did?
- Speaker #1
When?
- Speaker #0
And they went to one of Victoria's shows or something and that was the merit being like, we're not feuding.
- Speaker #1
But yeah, around the time of the wedding and all that. there was definitely a rift but it seems to have come back oh no there was a massive rift but it seems to have come back because they haven't been they weren't at Victoria's fashion show in Paris they were in London and didn't see David and that's when the 50th was happening yes and Brooklyn didn't go there was a family trip to France the fishing trip the fishing trip Gavin and Stacey sell and Brooklyn didn't go so it feels like I don't know someone's fueling it and fighting through the publicists or something and the source is being leaked
- Speaker #0
But, you know, what's just so irritating, you know, like if it's not his feud, I know it is because it's his wife. But like if he's not actually the centre of it, it's awful that he can't go to stuff because it's like I have an allegiance to my wife, basically. I'm assuming if the feud is on her and Victoria's side, that's what's really sad.
- Speaker #1
It's really sad. And I think because they got married so young and you obviously want to make your marriage. be credible and you want to stand by your woman.
- Speaker #0
Well, she's calling the shots.
- Speaker #1
The more isolated you get, the more warped your thinking gets. And they're probably egging each other on a little bit. It seems like they're kind of isolating themselves.
- Speaker #0
I'd say poor Harper is open arms about the whole thing.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. It just seems a bit like you're going to regret all this.
- Speaker #0
And the no tagging in the Instagram. Yeah.
- Speaker #1
I think it was Brooklyn put up this. He has love tattooed on his knuckles. And he put that up in his stories. And everyone's like, crip. message.
- Speaker #0
That's so embarrassing.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, they're like kind of feuding it all. But it does kind of remind me of, you know the way Harry gave that god awful interview to the BBC last week and he was thrown as kind of whinging and acting a bit petulant about losing that court case.
- Speaker #0
I don't know how much, how long my father has left. You don't say that.
- Speaker #1
You don't say that. He obviously said he went into that way too hot. It was the worst time to do that interview. Oh my god.
- Speaker #0
He's very cranky.
- Speaker #1
He's very emotionally traumatised by the whole thing because
- Speaker #0
And I do actually feel really sorry for him because at the end of the day, his mum has passed away and now he doesn't speak to his dad and he's kind of orphaned. He has no family over in the West Coast. It's similar to Brooklyn and...
- Speaker #1
It is actually.
- Speaker #0
...in an extent that the wife has kind of torn you away from your family in a way, or like the situation with your wife is not all Megan's fault. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to pile on Megan.
- Speaker #1
No, you're right.
- Speaker #0
It's in that same stream of like, but at the end of the day... You're missing all these moments with your family and it's very hard to mend the bridges and like look Harry you know how could the royal family trust Harry like they can't tell him news about Charles because he'll just go to the press they that trust has been broken via the Netflix documentary the book the Oprah interview like all that trust is completely gone they're not able to tell Harry anything and the security thing I feel sorry for him that he basically can't go back to the UK now because he can't get that same security. I agree and totally think he was whining and whinging and acting really petulantly because you've made all this money out of selling the royal story so you should be paying for your own security. But like he was born into it. It's not his fault.
- Speaker #1
But he's not in it now.
- Speaker #0
No no and he's doing nothing to work for it but before he met Meghan he was a working royal.
- Speaker #1
I know but they they left it so why would you get a benefit that's being paid by the taxpayer?
- Speaker #0
No but what I think should happen is Charles should just pay for it personally. rather than the taxpayer pay for it.
- Speaker #1
But Charles' personal money is like...
- Speaker #0
Is the taxpayer's money.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
I don't know. I feel very grey about that whole thing because Harry did himself no favours in that interview because he could have just gone, I'm really sorry and I miss my family rather than going, I don't know how much my father has left.
- Speaker #1
Oh no, we're looking at a stubborn, stubborn set of people here.
- Speaker #0
And Charles could have definitely cancelled that court case, you know, waived his king's scepter. and cancel that whole thing. The fact that he lost is like pretty, I'm sure Charles could have definitely pulled some strings and just poo-pooed the whole case. But I just think Harry, like by doing that interview, you've lost so much public favour. It's just, but anyway, at the core of it, sorry, is my point around family feuds. They're awful and they're really hard. And I think when it's your family, it's like almost intensified, especially when you don't live in the same countries. And I just feel really like sad for Brooklyn that he's missing all these, like his dad's 50s, like months of celebrations harry's not with his dad during like a really during charles's sickness and you don't want regrets anyway and just you know people don't have that much time no i mean to take it down from royals to something more royal to me but not to you uh the real housewives there's
- Speaker #1
three sisters in the beverly hills one and they it's paris hilton's mom was one of them and they're been on and off eating for years so like they would miss a new baby like loads they would miss a wedding all throughout the three sisters wow and it's been on and off it's really sad it's really sad and she started one of them starts crying once being like i'm just so annoyed at the time we lost because they missed out on massive life events yeah like you wouldn't get to meet a new baby and i
- Speaker #0
can't get that time back that's the one thing no but then there is like you know there's pride there's stubbornness there's anger and i think when it's your family like if it happened with a friend i suppose you can like cut them out but Like with family.
- Speaker #1
you know you're always attached to them and they're part of your like roots and he's probably seeing all the stuff on Instagram of everyone tagging everyone and then he's just missing yeah like it's very obvious he's missing because they're not but they're not even saying missing you like they normally do it's pretty bad and the more time goes on the worse it gets and the more like lamented you get there was an article about Nicola they were saying like is she the youngest I'm not sure where she falls but she has like is it like eight brothers or something yeah it's something nuts and they've always been saying like you're too good for that person and always have built her up to be this girl who gets what she wants and strives for the absolute best and stuff like that so it doesn't sound like she would back down very easy no they were saying imagine trying to get family approval of like a one or two brothers but eight and out of a dynasty as well barf i know i say sometimes i would like to be part of a dynasty but i actually couldn't deal with the politics no they're all sound happy no but not even royals like you know like just even i don't know A pub dynasty. Actually, it wouldn't be a vibe.
- Speaker #0
No. Heavy as the head.
- Speaker #1
And just like people getting involved. Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. And then you'd be questioning everyone's intentions being like, oh, do they just want some like cash?
- Speaker #1
Very theatrical. Maybe I would like it. Oh. Another lead-in, Gasser. I hear you've something to say about an attendee at one of David Beckham's... Well, it's actually one of his friends.
- Speaker #0
Oh, excuse me. Sorry, I totally forgot that story. While we're on the Beckhams, during one of... I don't even know which one it was. I'm pretty sure it was the London celebration for David's 50th. Victoria posted a load of photos. Obviously, Tom Cruise is there because they're besties. But in the background of one of the photos was Anna de Armas, the Cuban actress, former Bond girl. He also played Marilyn Monroe in that. awful Marilyn Monroe film. She's absolutely stunning. The rumours, I think it's like Hollywood's worst kept secret that they've been together. They've been pictured in London walking in a park. They've been kind of pictured somewhat together. But now it's looking like it might be official if she was at the Beckhams 50th. So everyone's kind of wondering, did Victoria kind of spill the beans by mistake? Because in fairness, like Anna is in like she's in the background. She's not posting. She's just kind of clapping in the background.
- Speaker #1
How he still gets anyone is beyond me.
- Speaker #0
I know. And with the previous like girlfriend. And so. what we've heard of like you have to go through this test his team have to meet you didn't like Katie Holmes have to audition to be his girlfriend and it was very much like planned and yeah there's a lot of PR relationships as well she looks so like Katie Holmes as well he definitely has a type and like Penelope Cruz like there's all these kind of like dark bombshell Bond girlies is this kind of type with her I feel like she's had such a weird relationship like she went out with the VP of um Tinder she went out with Ben Affleck during Covid do you remember that I actually do I'm just looking up now most of last year she was photographed kissing and she was rumoured to be going out with Anita Oquestra he is the stepson of Cuba's president Miguel D.S. Canel Bermudez wow what a repertoire so she's Cuban right and she left Cuba at 18 to move to America she's so sexy and now she ends up dating the Cuban dictator's son so there was like uproar over that relationship because Cuba's not the most oh gosh human right friendliest of countries.
- Speaker #1
Well, anything with the dictatorship isn't.
- Speaker #0
So I wonder, you know, if like Tom Cruise has a history of PR relationships, you just wonder like, is this a good one? It raises her profile, you know, Mission Impossible star with a Bond girl. I just, I can't help but think that there's a bit of coordination going on there. I don't know.
- Speaker #1
I always wonder like in those kind of relationships, like are they in the car or just like in silence?
- Speaker #0
Yeah, that went well. You performed beautifully. Well done.
- Speaker #1
Oh my God, I'd love to be a fly on the wall. There's a picture of them walking in some London park together.
- Speaker #0
Saw that.
- Speaker #1
He's wearing heels.
- Speaker #0
It raises her profile hugely.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. I feel like she's kind of...
- Speaker #0
She hasn't had the break she deserves.
- Speaker #1
Do you think?
- Speaker #0
Not the break she deserves, but like she was pitched so much, so high, but then did a few bad movies. She was in that Green Onions film as well. and she was a Bond girl but then that Marilyn Monroe went tanked like I feel like her stop start her career's been exactly stop starty then I wonder is this Tom Cruise one a bit to like raise her profile I don't know he's completely like everything's over coordinated freaks me out he's 62 and she is 37 would I go out with a
- Speaker #1
62 year old who's like 5 foot tall in heels I just can't even imagine the quirks he brings into any type of relationship.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Like he could be her dad. He's 25 years older. Oh,
- Speaker #1
he freaks me out.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. I don't know if I could go out with a 62 year old man.
- Speaker #1
You definitely couldn't. Well, it's just because it's him.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
It's not like whatever about the age. Like it's Tom Cruise. Boner killer city.
- Speaker #0
Oh God.
- Speaker #1
I have one that I just listened to a new podcast.
- Speaker #0
Yes.
- Speaker #1
It's called Therapus. he's this kind of quirky camp guy and I think he's like a TikTok star or something but he's been getting some good guests on he got one of the housewives on Leah Renna oh recently he's had a few people on um and he had Leah Michelle and it's brand new so when this comes out it will only be a few days old anyway and it's like a long form it's like an hour plus of them talking so like with Lisa Renna he got into loads of stuff that like she wouldn't normally get the opportunity to talk And there was so much stuff that just wasn't broached. It was so disappointing. Oh. You know, like all the stuff with the Glee cast and all that.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
You know, all that kind of stuff, which is just so interesting because they're all like, we can't stand her. Like, she's not a nice person. Yeah. And it clearly just isn't allowed to be spoken about. And she talks about, like, their schedule, that they were in Glee, though, and it's insane. Like, she goes into loads of Glee, but won't talk about the co-star bit. It's just so annoying. Because I'd love to hear her just say one thing about it, because she's never spoken about it. But she was saying like when they were on Glee, they would like, if they weren't filming, they were recording songs in a studio. If they weren't doing that, they were doing dance rehearsals. If they weren't doing that, they were getting their costumes done. Then in between breaks from filming, they would be on tour. It sounded absolutely exhausting. And yeah, he just didn't get past anything.
- Speaker #0
I'd say it's a condition. You want me on your podcast. I won't ask. You don't ask me those questions. Yeah,
- Speaker #1
100 percent. And she's like, I knew I'd love you. Like, I knew we'd be friends. And he's like, oh, my God, I absolutely. And you can tell he's like an over. But he did ask the, you know, with Corey Monteith when he passed away. He was like, oh, did that bring you closer together? And she was like, no, it fractured everything so much. She was she kept being like, I can't speak for anyone else. She goes, I think that maybe it did in some ways bring everyone closer together for certain people. But I think it was hard for me. I just completely broke. And she also said at one point, and it was she was 26 when he passed away. She also said at one point they do like a Hollywood death tour. And. She said like she could hear them being like, and coming up here is Lea Michele's house. Like and they were playing spooky music and then obviously talking about him. And she just said the whole thing was really traumatizing, which is awful.
- Speaker #0
Oh, my God. That's disgusting.
- Speaker #1
I know. Because then I went back into it being like, whatever Cows Tarr has said about her. And your one Heather Morris who played, I think it's Brittany, the blonde one in Glee.
- Speaker #0
Oh, the kind of ditzy one. Yeah, she's very funny.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. She said, was she unpleasant to work with? Very much so. For Leah to treat others with the disrespect that she did for as long as she did, I believe that she should be called out for that. And then some other girl who's like a later cast member said that Leah Michelle said she would like go to the bathroom in her wig.
- Speaker #0
Yes. No, because remember when Leah, that was because Leah Michelle was all like, oh, Black Lives Matter.
- Speaker #1
It was like kind of racially charged, wasn't it?
- Speaker #0
Yeah. And she was like, no, this woman cares nothing. She used to like shit in my wig.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. And you can really kind of see the kind of person she is. Like, I think she has, she doesn't seem to have a lot of girlfriends type of thing. No. You can kind of see that from the way she talks. And then she also debunked the fact that she can't read, you know, the way people say that she can't read. She debunked that being like, for everyone who thinks I can't fucking read, I was on the debate team. And she said, sometimes I think it's hysterical. And then she's like, other times I'm like. The fact that people are doing that with their day is hilarious to me. She was like, sometimes it does bother me.
- Speaker #0
It's such a weird rumour.
- Speaker #1
And then she reads out like cards being like, here you go. Which is quite funny. Yeah, I just, it was really missing.
- Speaker #0
The goss. Yeah. She probably needs though good like puff pieces about her though, do you know? Oh,
- Speaker #1
totally. And having this new friend being like, I knew we'd be friends. Yeah. Because she kind of really didn't talk about anything in it.
- Speaker #0
She did revive. Because her career, obviously, after that whole Black Lives Matter and everyone saying that she was such a bully, she revived her career a little because she played that Barbra Streisand role in Funny Girl. Funny Girl.
- Speaker #1
She talks a bit about that.
- Speaker #0
And she had like standing ovations apparently on the premiere nights and stuff. So I think she's she's such a like stage presence, isn't she? So that was back in 2022.
- Speaker #1
She was like, I still get so disgust. Like she was like, I get terrible stage fright. Really? She was like, I get so stressed. She was like, you wouldn't believe. Yeah. she's like it doesn't really go away either wow I never knew that yeah it's a good enough listen maybe listen to half of it or just listen to us talk about it if you like need some noise on in the background you have something to conclude on.
- Speaker #0
Now for the tinfoil segment.
- Speaker #1
That should be a segment.
- Speaker #0
Get your tinfoil hats because one big conspiracy is coming. Okay. So just to caveat this, the only major publication that has taken this up is the Daily Beast.
- Speaker #1
I feel like they have good stuff though.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
Sure.
- Speaker #0
Sure. So there was a hidden camera and it was placed by this MAGA provocateur called James O'Keefe. And he is the founder of this... thing called Project Veritas, which has previously been accused of publishing deceptively edited videos. Okay, so just we are caveating this. Oh. O'Keefe was pushed out of Project Veritas in 2023 for misappropriating donations. And he started, then he started his own O'Keefe Media Group. He's still organizing undercover videos of dubious authenticity, which may or may not be highly edited.
- Speaker #1
But your man's still saying what he's saying in the video.
- Speaker #0
Exactly. O'Keefe has spent several days hyping up this tape, saying that it had to go. He might have to go into hiding, suggesting someone might try and stage his suicide and murder him. Because that's how explosive this tape is.
- Speaker #1
It's insane.
- Speaker #0
It is. We'll put it in the show notes. So the video is of John Bryan talking to an undercover journalist for this O'Keefe guy. John Bryan was a longtime friend. financial advisor and crisis advisor for the Duke and Duchess of York Fergie and Prince Andrew just to set the scene the video is it's a little bit blurry there's a lot of noise in the background so I can't really play you a clip but we'll link it in the show notes somebody must be wearing a hidden camera because it's just the video is all on him and he's telling this story how do they get the sound though she must be wearing a mic maybe a hidden mic oh my god it's amazing I appreciate that your man okay there's tinfoil hat here but like Maybe he wants the story to come out and they've staged it like it's an undercover video. Because otherwise it's not. It looks like he's just been filmed at the bar spilling loads of tea about Prince Andrew. Either way, maybe John Bryan was part of the filming of it and he was included in it. That's the only way it could be doctored because he's saying what he's saying. Anyway, John Bryan is the guy who was photographed in 1992 sucking the toes of... Fergie I did not know that part yeah so he's that guy that incident was directly led to the York's divorce. Also a weird thing, they always, so Fergie and John Bryan always tried to deride the story as tabloid exaggeration, saying that they were playing a little innocent game for Fergie's kids, where they pretended she was a fairy tale princess and he was kissing her feet. I was like, what? It's such an elaborate, weird lie.
- Speaker #1
For someone who's in crisis management, that's not the best thing to say.
- Speaker #0
Anyway, John Bryan, as he says in the video, yes, he and Fergie fell in love, but he was really close to Andrew as well. They knew each other. They partied together in the
- Speaker #1
1990s. They partied together.
- Speaker #0
Then after the divorce, John Bryan and Fergie went out for six years and he helped raise Eugenie and Beatrice. Because you're... What's his face? Prince Andrew, he said in the video. He was fighting, was it in the Falklands? In the Navy. In the Navy for like 250 days a year. So he never really saw the kids.
- Speaker #1
That's also not.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
This guy is, I wonder, is he sweating?
- Speaker #0
I know. But in the video, he goes on, right? And he's like, he was previously said that he was summoned to Andrew's side in the wake of the disastrous interview by Emily Maitlis for the BBC for Newsnight. Oh God. You know, where the photo came out of Virginia Dufresne. Now, after that interview. Brian was summoned by Andrew and he composed a five-page crisis response plan, which he advised Prince Andrew on, amongst other things. And one of the main things was to express compassion for Epstein's victims. This plan was ultimately not followed by Prince Andrew, as we all know.
- Speaker #1
Car crash television.
- Speaker #0
And sidecarring to this, so Virginia Dufri sadly died by suicide a few weeks ago.
- Speaker #1
Supposedly.
- Speaker #0
And some of the members of her family have cast doubt on the manner of her death and suggested that she was killed.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, yeah.
- Speaker #0
Now, in this video, Brian has been filmed making claims about Andrew having sex with girls who were underage. So in the video, Brian says, then I did a big thing in the Daily Mail saying that I believed Andrew. And then I found out that he was lying. I was so pissed off. The journalist asked, lying about what? Screwing underage girls? Brian responded that he was fucking underage girls. I was so pissed.
- Speaker #1
Now, he's definitely had a few drinks.
- Speaker #0
Definitely. But I don't know. I wonder now, like, would the police take this video seriously? Particularly that it's been made by some MAGA guy. But, yeah, what do you think?
- Speaker #1
But take it seriously what? Because his friend is saying he lied.
- Speaker #0
That he was having sex with underage girls. The inner circle must have known more. So you just wonder.
- Speaker #1
I think we all know he was though now.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. It's just mad that he was never like properly prosecuted. They just kind of put him out to pasture.
- Speaker #1
But this is part of the royals like.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
It's ridiculous.
- Speaker #0
One of Andrew's friends has dismissed the video saying that it was like dinner party bragging.
- Speaker #1
It looked like he's on kind of a boat.
- Speaker #0
It did have a boat energy.
- Speaker #1
I was seeing kind of a yacht energy.
- Speaker #0
Like a low ceiling.
- Speaker #1
And kind of blue bottles, the lighting.
- Speaker #0
I got a yacht energy.
- Speaker #1
I was drawing for them to pull out so I could see what was going. Also the girl doing it. You just think, what? Did he have sex with underage girls? It's an explosive video.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. And it's really hard because there's no way of verifying like the authenticity of the video. But he did really say all these things. It's not like the video doesn't look like it's doctored. I went on his Instagram. It's definitely him. You know, it's quite clear that one camera on him. is it not just that it's just brand new but it's definitely like there's his inner circle knew what was going on but now it's like I suppose who takes of course it is yeah who takes the case against Andrew or is it just kind of settled but like all of that stuff as in you know like the whole list of offenders or something that you know that leaked Epstein list all that kind of sort of like those people are probably never going to get in trouble it just seems like they pay the problem away really
- Speaker #1
Oh my God, it's so terrifying that you can just pay stuff like that away, isn't it?
- Speaker #0
But then it's also like the inner circle, like they know what those guys were up to and they just say nothing. It's like, you know, it's doing nothing sometimes is, I know you're scared for your job and probably your safety.
- Speaker #1
But like, if you look at like the Harvey Weinstein stuff, like everyone knew about that in the industry. It's like, you can't, you can't really do much.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
I don't think.
- Speaker #0
It's interesting timing because like just when the Andrew dust has kind of settled.
- Speaker #1
you know more stuff is coming out like there's just maybe another woman will come out but you know like you and i might hear stuff like in like irish celeb yeah news and stuff and like everyone kind of knows it but it's not known it's like an open secret yeah kind of yeah and like people you'd never suspected of about different things like it's just Yeah, I don't know.
- Speaker #0
Royal whispers.
- Speaker #1
Royal whispers.
- Speaker #0
If it's not a set up, that journalist was just like, yes! You know, imagine you go under cover and then they start spilling and you're literally like, and then what happened? And then what happened? And he's just like, yes, I'm going to give you...
- Speaker #1
Yeah, it was almost like too good to be true looking at it. It is.
- Speaker #0
And like, the video has 7.3 million views, went up two days ago. In light of the sad news about Virginia passing, like it's just, it's interesting timing. Last week was Candice Annes, this week's is James O'Keefe. MAGA, the MAGA people are... I never thought I'd be watching this much MAGA content.
- Speaker #1
Christ. That was very tinfoil hatty, but I think it's true. Allegedly. Gazza, it is your turn for a record. Before we greet these people on their merry way, what are you recommending this week?
- Speaker #0
So, it's new to market. Okay. Get to your local supermarket immediately. like turn on your heels now go back to the shop it's time a new ice cream has come to town and I don't know why it hasn't existed already Nutella have launched an ice cream oh you take off the top and I'm talking a layer it's in a tub isn't it it's a tub sorry yeah a tub so obviously you get one for your own personal use you crack open the tub it's a layer a thick layer of like cold Nutella Then you crack that surface and you dig in and it's like this kind of swirly chocolate and vanilla-y kind of situation going on beneath the surface. Within there, there's bits of Nutella. So of the layer above, there's chips of the Nutella throughout. We got one tub.
- Speaker #1
One tub's not enough.
- Speaker #0
I know. The custody battle me and Mick had over it, like I was watching him eyeballing every spoonful he took to make sure that we had got equal amounts. I've never said an argument.
- Speaker #1
Of the Nutella bits or ice cream?
- Speaker #0
Just of the ice cream, just making sure that we had like down the line equal amount.
- Speaker #1
It's like Chandler and Rachel.
- Speaker #0
You've had a bit longer. You've had to give it back. TikTok. You've had that for 30 seconds. It's now 31.
- Speaker #1
Someone at the door, could you get it?
- Speaker #0
Oh my God, it fell on the ground. It's gone.
- Speaker #1
It melted.
- Speaker #0
It's gross. Yeah. My sister got it and Hannah and she was like, oh my God, one tub wasn't enough.
- Speaker #1
Do I get that this evening? Does everyone sell it?
- Speaker #0
I got it in Sainsbury's but like I'm sure it's like it's Nutella I'm sure it's everything I'm going to try it I've heard it's unreal
- Speaker #1
I need it right now it's unbelievable I can't leave anything around with James just hoovers it up yeah I'm going to have to do it when he's not there I'll just have to check his schedule I can't it's like a bear living with a bear it's like opening and closing all the curtains he might not even like something and he'll eat it oh it's so annoying yeah I know the rage oh I see I see you got such and such and I'll have hidden it but he's found it Very wicked. A lot of rummaging. Oh, he's so nosy, yeah. Okay, I'm dying to try that.
- Speaker #0
I've made myself so hungry.
- Speaker #1
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- Speaker #0
Over and out.
