- Speaker #0
Hello and welcome back to House of Gossip. It's me, Sophie Lyons, and the fabulous Clara Kavner serving you up our weekly dose of pop culture nourishment. Clara, coming into you live. I'm in Ireland and you're in England. How are you?
- Speaker #1
Whoa, over the pond.
- Speaker #0
Yes.
- Speaker #1
Yes, I'm very well, Sophie. Thank you. I'm really enjoying the lack of rain and the intense sunshine we're having.
- Speaker #0
Oh, it's disgusting here. Oh,
- Speaker #1
it's really... The last few days have been like so sunny, but...
- Speaker #0
Lovely.
- Speaker #1
Very cold, but lovely.
- Speaker #0
Freezing. Yeah, they're really nice in London.
- Speaker #1
I love that when you can just put on loads of layers and like look at the autumn leaves. But yeah, it's little things at this point. Ah,
- Speaker #0
yes. Speaking of the little things at this point, I had so many people saying how nice it was to hear about your wedding last week.
- Speaker #1
Oh!
- Speaker #0
Yeah, they were like, God, it sounded brilliant. And we had... all the lovely people who were working at your wedding sending us lovely messages oh your story by al sounds lovely was maria one maria was one maria messaged me maria reedy lovely they were all yeah sorry i forgot to say she messaged me last night she
- Speaker #1
asked me she goes how do you and sophie know each other and i was like well sit down maria sit down And I was like, well, we were all in the same school, but in like five sisters, but in like cascading years. We had two Lions girls, three Cavanaugh girls. We all, you know, overlapped a bit on basketball teams, you know.
- Speaker #0
It's a real messy story.
- Speaker #1
It is. Few school plays in the mix. But then where it really came together was my sister Hannah and you sister Sophie met in... I don't know. met in the DIT library and got kicked out a few times for howling laughing. And through that...
- Speaker #0
That library is so hot.
- Speaker #1
Oh, and through that, then the Lions, Kavanaugh, Cinco Sassy Sisters Christmas brunch was formed. And for the last, I don't know, is it like seven or eight years we've been doing?
- Speaker #0
I don't think we've missed it. Did we miss a COVID one? I missed it last year. I wasn't home.
- Speaker #1
There was a COVID one, I think we did. No, I still think, because remember we were banging on the door of Slattery's and they weren't open due to COVID. Oh,
- Speaker #0
wait, sorry. We did have a COVID one because Rachel came and had like a bit of a, like a wild one. It was like in the midst of a break of COVID or like you could still do stuff. But Rachel had awful fear because she'd gone out the night before and she was afraid that like COVID, you know, could be. could be coming into the Lyons household, basically. And like, she hadn't done anything, but she had ultimate fear. And I think she was mute that entire lunch.
- Speaker #1
She ordered a cocktail at the beginning of the...
- Speaker #0
Her and I had a fight on the way home. I was like, you didn't speak for a majority of that. And she was like, I'm sorry. She was like, I'm sorry. But like, and I was like, why did you, why did we have a huge fight?
- Speaker #1
But the beauty of that Christmas brunch is there's usually one to two people who've been out the night before and are still probably kind of on a bit of a high from the night before.
- Speaker #0
I nominate you. Was that one of the ones you came to and it was like you had just come from the last part?
- Speaker #1
I was still a bit merry. It was great. I was really late and very delirious because I used to live really near. When we did it in the bath, I used to live really near there. So then I would just like roll out of bed. Spray crack. And have espresso martini and get a bit of lyrics.
- Speaker #0
We're missing other sister Sophie this year. Shout out to you.
- Speaker #1
She just touched down in Sri Lanka as of this moment. Oh,
- Speaker #0
pleasant touchdown, Sophie.
- Speaker #1
Oh, so jealous.
- Speaker #0
She'll be awfully missed at the Christmas lunch. It's like we're swapping one Sophie for another this year.
- Speaker #1
Oh, we are. So the legacy of the Cinco Sassy sister continues. So yeah, sorry, Maria. There you go. You really did need to sit down to hear that history.
- Speaker #0
You're welcome, Maria.
- Speaker #1
And now we all live in London, basically, apart from Sophie and Sri Lanka.
- Speaker #0
I think Sophie will follow.
- Speaker #1
Hopefully. Here's hoping now. Sorry,
- Speaker #0
I have high hopes.
- Speaker #1
Yes, come on, Sophs.
- Speaker #0
It's my Christmas wish. We're obviously getting into, I don't know if I like this phrase, silly season. I don't think I do, but it describes it quite well. Fest of fun, etc. So I feel like these few episodes are going to have a... a bit of jolly old vibes to them. And we're going to kick it off with J'adore and J'attest this week. Clare, what are you J'adore-ing or what are you J'attesting?
- Speaker #1
Actually, I had a J'adore there, but then just of what you said there about the festive cheer. Last night we watched Love Actually and decorated our teeny tiny Christmas tree that we got from Sainsbury's. I'll put up a photo on Instagram. It's so cute.
- Speaker #0
You know, one of my ex-boyfriends had never seen Love Actually.
- Speaker #1
That is crazy. How did he survive?
- Speaker #0
Like, sorry, we're obviously not together anymore. But I honestly was like... For good reason. I was like, who am I going out with? Like, that's nuts. Oh my God. It's like 20 years old as well. Yeah,
- Speaker #1
it came out in 2003.
- Speaker #0
That sounds like a lovely evening.
- Speaker #1
When me and Mick first got together... He came over and it was like Christmas time and it was like, oh, let's watch Love Actually. And he had, I think he'd been in like the pub or something. So he's a bit like, you know, three pints kind of tipsy. And the whole way through he was slagging it. And I had to pause it. I stopped it and was like, you're just, you're ruining Love Actually for me. Just stop it. Stop it. And then this year, stop it. This week he made me watch LA Confidential, which is like this, such a man film. It's a bit like The Departed. Like everybody dies and like it's shooting and blah, blah. And the violence is so unnecessary. Like people are throwing chairs out of windows and like shooting people left, right and center. And I was just kind of like mindlessly watching it. And he was like, OK, I feel like I owe you like a Mean Girls type film.
- Speaker #0
Roger that, Mick.
- Speaker #1
I was like, OK, let's watch Love Actually.
- Speaker #0
He was like,
- Speaker #1
let's watch Love Actually. And I was like, but you ruined it for me the last time. He was like, no, no, I'm a married man now.
- Speaker #0
Did he redeem himself?
- Speaker #1
He's like, I've indoctrinated myself. Don't worry, I'm also like won't be drug. So we watched it last night. It was very cute. It was just like good. It's like nice to watch it every Christmas.
- Speaker #0
Who's your favorite story? What's your favorite storyline in Love Actually?
- Speaker #1
Great cue.
- Speaker #0
Thank you. I'm just trying to think of mine.
- Speaker #1
Oh, I don't know. Hugh Grant and Martine McCutcheon.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, yeah. All the ones I was thinking of were sad. I was like, they're not my favorite. Yeah, it probably is Hugh Grant, isn't it? Oh no, and Colin Firth.
- Speaker #1
Oh yeah.
- Speaker #0
I put Colin Firth deaf out. I love that one.
- Speaker #1
I love, the Portuguese translations are so funny.
- Speaker #0
I know.
- Speaker #1
The bit that, obviously the Heathrow moments always make me cry. And then the other bit. Oh. Oh, it's so sad. Maybe I said this last Christmas. But I know girls who go to, well they used to, when they lived in London, go to Heathrow Airport like the week of Christmas and just sit in arrivals and watch the homecomings and just sit there and cry. How cathartic. very therapeutic yeah I suppose during early Christmas cheer because I'm going home the 16th so even though I felt like a bit bad luck to do it in November but I'm actually kind of glad that our tree is here even though it is so pointy and it's kind of like a cactus more than a Christmas tree it's a lovely little fella he's a little cutie it's like the perfect size for the sausage dog that I mind oh
- Speaker #0
Arnie like as in proportion wise yes he would look so normal beside me like elf we i got to meet arnie on sunday he is the most darling clara got to meet the sausage dog that i take care of i'm sure if you follow me on instagram you've seen that little fella scurrying around he is so sweet he's everything i thought he'd be and more like he's so chill he is the best boy actually i was gonna do another but he's my door this guy has picked me up because i've had uh I'm on my third wedding in November this weekend. Wow. And the flying back and forth, like yours was unbelievable, obviously. But, you know, kind of the flying back and then on the Monday morning, you're a bit like.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, the logistics are hard.
- Speaker #0
The logistics are tough. And I've had Arnie, he was on his holidays for two weeks, but I just got him back there last week after his holidays.
- Speaker #1
He was off in March.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, he's doing some sun and siesta. And we had a full Sunday together. He had a jumper for the occasion. I took him for a walk. I got him a big packet of ham. I took him for a roast briefly. And I felt like one of those mums being like, let me just finish. I'll finish my dinner and then we're going. We're out of here.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, it was like you had a baby.
- Speaker #0
Don't worry about it. I was like, I better go. Like I was bouncing him on my lap. I better go. He's getting a bit antsy.
- Speaker #1
He's due his nap.
- Speaker #0
He's a bit crazy. He needs his nap. He's just the best boy. He's perfect for snuggling. He's so polite.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, he's got great manners.
- Speaker #0
And a personality to boot.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, he's really so cute.
- Speaker #0
He's the best thing that's happened to me this year.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, definitely. He's so, he's so soothing.
- Speaker #0
Relationship wise, he's the best thing that's happened to me this year.
- Speaker #1
He's my number one.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, that would have to be my j'adore. You led me right into that.
- Speaker #1
Oh, I love these off-the-cuff j'adores.
- Speaker #0
Also, I'm wearing these, like, tartan pyjamas. And I got James, who I live with, I got him a matching pair of bottoms. And I hopefully am getting Arnie this week for a day. So I'm hoping myself, Arnie and James can get a little Christmas pick.
- Speaker #1
Give the Kardashians a run for their money. Yeah. That would be so good.
- Speaker #0
Like we could do it on the floor or something. with the shami from ours to yours this festive season and Arnie does this like one paw thing that he does he could do that in it maybe he could wear something tartan too I thought of a dickie bow I just I need to source one because it's all tartan he would look so good he sounds so dapper in a dickie bow it's very Trey McDougal If anyone watches Sex and the City, you'll get that reference.
- Speaker #1
Who's the bunny in that household? Definitely Jade.
- Speaker #0
Jane is 100% Bonnie McTigle.
- Speaker #1
Jane smoking and drunk. That makes you the Charlotte and Arnie the tray.
- Speaker #0
Arnie so the tray, isn't he? Oh, that's very good. Okay.
- Speaker #1
Oh, I could really watch. I could definitely watch that Sex and City episode of you guys playing those characters. Now, Sophie, it's time to patch you into the studio. Thank you, Clara.
- Speaker #0
We're recording this on Black Friday. It's going to come out on Tuesday. But I found a news bulletin that I thought was worth bringing to the listeners'attention. R.E. Discounts and retailers. I hope you're being very careful, folks, with what you're buying, where you're buying it from and the prices you're paying. Retailers are being brought to court over fake discounts in Ireland. The Consumer Watchdog has launched proceedings against a number of nationwide retailers. for breaking sales pricing laws. The breaches were discovered during online sweeps conducted by the Competition and Consumer Protection Commission, or the CCPC, over the 2023 to 2024 winter sales season, including Black Friday and January sales. Everything from electrical, cosmetics, furniture and clothing and footwear sectors were looked into, and the retailers are due to appear in court in January 2025. So there are definitely some good nuggets that you hear from those court proceedings. Wow. Yeah. the inspectors saw loads of excellent examples of accurate sales pricing and sales communications, but they also saw where there are significant and widespread breaches of the law. I'm dying to see some examples. They obviously wouldn't give it. But they also said there is a very low level of consumer trust in discounts in Ireland, with less than a third of consumers trusting that discounts displayed by businesses are genuine. So be careful because it's Black Friday, Cyber Monday, and then the Christmas sales and the January sales.
- Speaker #1
They kind of go on, don't they? What does that mean? Does it mean that like you would advertise...
- Speaker #0
Higher than the...
- Speaker #1
So you'd say, be like, oh, this telly's 500 quid and now it's 200. That's what I get. But it never was 500. So they inflate the prices and then slash it down.
- Speaker #0
Correct. So like as in they might only be giving 10%, but they're saying they're giving 30. Standard Black Friday is I think about 20%.
- Speaker #1
Sneaky buggers.
- Speaker #0
I know. I was looking there to see like, I feel like... What's the word for like coffee machines and blenders, air fryers? What are they called?
- Speaker #1
Appliances.
- Speaker #0
Appliances. You're telling it, Gazza. I feel like if you're in. I feel like if you're in, if you're looking for an appliance, Black Friday is your jam. But besides that, I'm not sure. Like as in, I'm not hugely. I did see a perfume that I wanted that's discounted, but then I'm always afraid it's fake. who's one to trust these days? I was Googling. But anything from along the lines of Nespresso, Smeg or an air fryer, I will be looking for my mother.
- Speaker #1
Yes. Oh yeah, we have an air fryer. We don't even use our oven anymore.
- Speaker #0
Apparently they're so much more efficient in energy use.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, and they heat up so quickly and our oven is so shit. The only thing you can't do in an air fryer is like a pizza, but that's fine.
- Speaker #0
Is that you haven't tried or you actually can't?
- Speaker #1
It just physically won't fit. Roger. And I wouldn't say air fryers are the most They don't look great.
- Speaker #0
No, they look like a spaceship.
- Speaker #1
Our one looks like R2-D2.
- Speaker #0
I was like to James like last year, I was like, oh, am I getting airfired? He was like, but they're so ugly. I was like, that's not neither here nor there. Like I would just hide R2-D2 after I used it.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, or like you could put it in a cupboard or something. It does take up a lot of countertop space, but the convenience outweighs any kind of aesthetics. They're honestly amazing.
- Speaker #0
It's like in Derry Girls when they say Protestants put toasters.
- Speaker #1
in the cupboard. In the cupboard. Yeah. It is.
- Speaker #0
Toasters are stunning now. Have you seen how good some of them are? We've a smag one and they're great.
- Speaker #1
Oh, excuse me. You do. With a matching kettle.
- Speaker #0
Correct. Classic Jane. God, Jane is getting so much air time. He doesn't listen though so he's not going to care. Hello, Jane.
- Speaker #1
Back to you in the studio. Clara. Thank you, Sophie. Now, I have become a total convert from celeb. Oh, my gosh.
- Speaker #0
I love this side of you because...
- Speaker #1
Thank you.
- Speaker #0
There was a side of you that was resistant.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. And I know the feeling. I would have the same feeling about this if you watched Drag Race. And it's lovely being on this side of it.
- Speaker #0
Isn't it nice you not being like, oh, that sounds good. Oh good. And do they eat the bugs?
- Speaker #1
Yeah. I find the screaming a bit a lot. Like Talisa is screaming for no reason. Maura's doing it as well. But like I sense an actual fear with Maura. With Talisa I feel like it's a bit attention grabbing. But what a season. I know you always remember your first season. But like even in one week like so much has happened. Like Dean McCullough has just been so sassy. Been doing like every single task. I love him. Continuing to like have banter with Ant and Dec. Slagged the shacket usage, which I have noticed a distinct change in Ant & Dec's style. The stylist must be raging.
- Speaker #0
Can we pull this out? Because the shackets, they've been doing this, is it 22 years? 20 years?
- Speaker #1
Something crazy.
- Speaker #0
It's something nuts.
- Speaker #1
24th season.
- Speaker #0
And I consciously probably have watched, I'd say, the last 8 to 10 years, maybe 8 years. I don't know. Yeah. They have always, always worn shackets. It's like a thick hardware top that kind of covers up them. And like a cargo pant and then like a brogue or a boot. Yeah. That's what they always wear. And it looks appalling. It looks so stupid.
- Speaker #1
But what else can they wear?
- Speaker #0
Like a long sleeve or just like a normal shirt. The shacket in the forest. Like the celebrities are wearing tank tops.
- Speaker #1
It must be.
- Speaker #0
boiling. And then Ant and Dec go in in these big over, like canvas over shirts. It's the juxtaposition that looks silly.
- Speaker #1
It's the canvas as well. It's like, it's like they're going on safari constantly but want to look a bit stylish.
- Speaker #0
And they're never in colour and I understand they're trying to do, you know, they're in the wildlife so it's a lot of khaki and like navy. But like, come on. It's so boring.
- Speaker #1
But for the stylist I think it's a really difficult brief because it's They have to look like they're on safari or like in the outdoors. They can't be too loud. And they have to be a bit like everyday man. Well,
- Speaker #0
Ant wore a very loud shirt. Did you see that kind of harlequin one he wore last week? It was like a harlequin blue one. It was like a silk blouse. But I'd say he felt so much better in it.
- Speaker #1
Because you know on Big Brother and you have AJ, Dudu and the other guy, Will. And he has kind of a Harry Styles aesthetic. And it's real kind of like... Zara man you know there's a lot of like culotte pants and like a kitten on his sweater I just don't think Ant and Dec yeah it's amazing he does it really well it's kind of he's straight but it's very gender bendy metrosexual vibe Roger like a pearl necklace that kind of like kind of like Nell Fielding not as cool this guy is this guy has the personality of an Ant or Dec but wears a bit more he's a bit more adventurous with his clothing yeah But I just don't think that would suit Ant & Dec if they went kind of the metrosexual way. They kind of are that like Moss Brothers next M&S man.
- Speaker #0
Totally. But it doesn't have to be a canvas jacket. It makes no sense. If you see any of the crew, all the crew are in T-shirts. It's warm.
- Speaker #1
It's boyish.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. And because they're sassy, the clothes are so easy to make fun of. Match their sass. They're so cheeky, especially Ant. They are. Throwing out.
- Speaker #1
digs left right and centre he apologised he did but what I what I find with Ant and Dec is like they're so over rehearsed I kind of go on my phone when they're talking I'm a little bit like I agree with you it's just it's so like and you can tell they've rehearsed it I don't know I find and then sometimes you know that they've rehearsed it because when they go down to the campsite and they're reading from when they don't know their lines they're really reading from those little cards they have yeah
- Speaker #0
I don't pay attention because it's just all these kind of skits
- Speaker #1
yeah it's just it's very like dad joke but I think that that's their charm and that's why they win all those awards and that's who they are I agree I like them but just the jackets the jackets but no it's been a great week so Maura and the Reverend Richard were in this secret camp and who snuffed out their lie was Wagga the Chrissy herself Colleen Rooney you could get nothing past that woman like what street cred she has I didn't believe it I didn't believe it she's like you could get nothing past her and I know obviously Wayne Rooney is the whole reason like because he's like cheated on her so many times you obviously have the six cents for it at this point and you have four sons so like her intel is like no other she's like a highly trained elite spy she's wasted sniffered up yes she's wasted where she is she needs to drop all these collab deals and join the force she
- Speaker #0
needs to be in the police you're imitating Dean being like I didn't believe him and then you're like She was imitating Dean like this. With an upside down, like, frame.
- Speaker #1
She was, yeah. She needs to be in Scotland Yard. Like, if that's not her next band collab, I don't know what else can be. Like, she's wasted.
- Speaker #0
And I think Scotland Yard are due for kind of a PR campaign.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. No better woman. Imagine her, arms crossed.
- Speaker #0
I'm with the forces.
- Speaker #1
That's... No, let me go back to back. Yeah. It's just...
- Speaker #0
I'm here solving crimes.
- Speaker #1
She could do like Kim Kardashian, go to law school.
- Speaker #0
I agree with you.
- Speaker #1
And then like that would actually be a legitimate next step for her career.
- Speaker #0
But let's face it, she's the real star of that couple.
- Speaker #1
100%.
- Speaker #0
Like she's carrying them.
- Speaker #1
With her tiny hands.
- Speaker #0
She looks amazing, her skin and everything. She looks great.
- Speaker #1
And when she did that trial with Dean, like she wasn't letting Dean, like in a very nice way, like wasn't letting him get away with it.
- Speaker #0
He needs to be hand-held and being like, no, he's like a puppy.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, he is such like a Labrador or Labradoodle. But I don't know. Interesting. I was having chats about I'm a celeb in the office.
- Speaker #0
And isn't it nice you can get involved in that now?
- Speaker #1
Yeah, water cooler chats. It's great. But some people, Becky especially, was seeing through Dean, thinking that he was a bit over hyping it up for the cameras.
- Speaker #0
So one of the girls messaged me after I put up a story for the teaser for last week's episode. And she was like, I'm not sure on him. but I think a few people are feeling that way.
- Speaker #1
I think he might have peaked too soon.
- Speaker #0
But did you see him putting on the sequined dress and stuff?
- Speaker #1
That's where, yeah. And you know when someone plants that in your head and then I'm like, oh no. And I do think... I like him. I think Maura or Colleen will win. I don't know if he'll win. I think if the vote was last week, he would win, but I don't know now.
- Speaker #0
Danny, Danny's very high up to win.
- Speaker #1
I find him a bit too similar to Sam Thompson who won last year. And also like... He's a real team player and he's like, he's going to do great in all the tasks. But I find he's kind of like acting up for the cameras or like doing kind of following a bit of a plan.
- Speaker #0
You comparing him to Sam Thompson is so uneducated. You shouldn't have your leaving cert results by saying that.
- Speaker #1
I'm stripping you.
- Speaker #0
I'm taking you for your leaving cert results. And maybe junior cert. You saying that is. so silly can I get an amen to the listeners they are not the same okay poor Kay why Sam Thompson is like a puppy again like he was like he running around like as in Danny's getting like Danny has a bit of a Marvin to him from last year who Marvin Humes who I actually saw a few weeks ago in Marlborough going into a gym and I was with one of the girls from work and he was by himself on a random road walking by me and I was like And I was like, that's Marvin from JLS. And she was like, who? And I was like, oh, for God's sake. I was like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
- Speaker #1
You're ruining this moment for me.
- Speaker #0
Seriously, like just, oh, anyway. Marvin Humes last year, though, was both a mix of, he was such a team player, a bit of a leader. He's also very vulnerable. And he like tolerated Sam and really kind of took him under his, physically under his wing. And that's kind of what Danny is doing with Dean.
- Speaker #1
Okay, fair. Right. Okay.
- Speaker #0
I've just done a compare and contrast, like, leaving cert. Oh, no, I'm a celeb.
- Speaker #1
I'll add the leaving cert. There you go. So, okay, well, I stand corrected, for sure.
- Speaker #0
Yes, you do, Gasser.
- Speaker #1
But, yeah, no, I'm really enjoying it this year. It's been a great bunch of celebs, and they all get on really well. Moira, still, she's just so likeable. I just love her so much.
- Speaker #0
Just a moment, like, I think Irish people, the Irish always have this. going on but like aren't we just taking over we are honestly laura and barry is there a third hour dean is dean irish yeah they're so good they're really funny then we have we've paul masco We've buried Cioga. We've...
- Speaker #1
Saoirse Ronan.
- Speaker #0
Saoirse Ronan. Oh my God, like all these people and they're just killing it. Killing it. And there's this like subtlety to their personalities when they're interviewed and like modesty. Like there's a great modesty in Irish people.
- Speaker #1
And a great humour. Like Andrew Scott, like the most humble man.
- Speaker #0
Like I just feel like when they're on a couch and they're next to a Denzel Washington as an example or a big... you know, like Hollywood, American, blah, blah, blah. There's just no comparison.
- Speaker #1
It's just like a lovely authenticity that we have. And like one of the things I love about Maura is like, well, the other, say, Paul Meskels and the Andrew Scotts are very like humble and like, you know, oh gosh, yeah, oh gosh, not me. Whereas Maura is like, I fucking love the junkyard. Yes, give me more luxury, please. Like she's not afraid to like be like, and I think that's really endearing because she's like... Fucking lie to them. She's like,
- Speaker #0
I'm full. Lie to them.
- Speaker #1
I need that bed.
- Speaker #0
I'm full in the dunk down.
- Speaker #1
I'm absolutely full. Do you want a banana? Come look at the fridge. It's perfect. It's perfect.
- Speaker #0
Yeah,
- Speaker #1
I agree. I just think it's, I just feel very proud of all those Irish people who are in the spotlight at the moment. They're great.
- Speaker #0
I think they always are as well. But there's all these kind of articles coming out just being like the talent coming out of Ireland. It's brilliant. Great time to, it's always a great time.
- Speaker #1
It was always there. It's always been there.
- Speaker #0
It is always there. But then, you know, when you get this big wave of like younger talent coming in.
- Speaker #1
Exactly. And in like such bigger roles as well. So it's like, hello, Hollywood.
- Speaker #0
Speaking of just a slight diversion, I did see Gladiator the weekend and you are seeing it on Saturday. So we're seeing it a week apart and then I think we'll probably discuss it.
- Speaker #1
And I'm going to try see Wicked with your sister. So we might if just if you're thinking about what to do with these horrible, cold and dark evenings, go and see Glickid. Gladiator and Wicked.
- Speaker #0
It's like Barbieheimer.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, exactly. And we will do a little show about it next week. So here's your little warning to go spend a winter's eve with either Paul Meskel or Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo.
- Speaker #0
And I urge you, I urge people not to read reviews before they go to the cinema.
- Speaker #1
Yes, urge.
- Speaker #0
I think there's something so greedy about reading what the specific critiques of a movie are. and then not going to it because of that.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. It spoils your viewing experience.
- Speaker #0
I think that's like a personality glitch when people do that. Like when people tell me they do that, like I heard it wasn't good, so I'm not going. I can't stand that. I urge you not to do it. See the two of them and then we'll discuss it and you can see what you think.
- Speaker #1
Yes. So let this be your signal from the universe to go to the cinema.
- Speaker #0
I went to this like old Victorian cinema in Hackney. It was amazing. It was really cool. But I had a mulled wine. Hello. First of the season. Oh,
- Speaker #1
I love that. I don't go enough to those cinemas where you can get like a hot dog and they serve it to you. I don't do that enough.
- Speaker #0
My ex-boyfriend loved those like, you know, the hot dogs that are like the length of your forearm.
- Speaker #1
Oh, like a foot long.
- Speaker #0
He loved getting those at the cinema. Like loved them.
- Speaker #1
And like,
- Speaker #0
boner killer.
- Speaker #1
Are you enjoying that?
- Speaker #0
Was that good?
- Speaker #1
They're so processed, only suitable on a hangover, I think.
- Speaker #0
Frankfurters are not okay.
- Speaker #1
They're not the one.
- Speaker #0
Now, we're going to move on to something that, Clara, you brought to my attention during the week, and it made me salivate. Kristin Cavallari has a podcast. She's very, um... candid about everything.
- Speaker #1
It's called Let's Be Honest, the podcast.
- Speaker #0
And she's very, very honest. I would give her like a Maura Higgins vibe.
- Speaker #1
Yes, quite. Not funny, but in her candidness.
- Speaker #0
No, no, no. Just with how candid she is. Like she's very famous. She's very successful and she's giving kind of details about stuff. And then Clara saw this absolutely beautiful nugget.
- Speaker #1
She's waging a war.
- Speaker #0
She's waging a war with none other than Scott Disick.
- Speaker #1
And the Kardashians at large.
- Speaker #0
And she read a DM. from Scott that he sent her recently live on the podcast. And I have a bit of it here. She said, it's been such a long time. It's crazy, kind of crazy that our lives also ended up being kind of similar. I feel like it would be so good to see you and catch up and just talk about the stress and all the different things you got to go through with kids and changing your life around over and over. I really miss you, though, and wish I would have reached out earlier. Just been busy trying to be the best out I can be. He said he was working on himself. And then he goes, I don't have time for much, but trying to think about myself a little bit again. Trying anyway. Hope to hear from you. Just text me so it's easier to chat. And she goes right away, Scott, you miss me after 17 years? She goes on to say it's the most manipulative text she's ever gotten. It's classic textbook manipulation control bullshit. Was it in the press that she had an affair with Scott Disick, but her and Scott were just friends?
- Speaker #1
So the backstory on it is that she was like, oh, we've known each other since we were 18, just from being in like the LA scene. And she was friends with him. And- He was going out with Courtney. So she became friends with Courtney. And then during one of their many breakups, the one in 2010, when Courtney and Scott broke up, she was like, I didn't realize I had to choose a side. But like, I suppose I met Courtney through Scott. She didn't really go into like actually choosing sides. So she goes on a work business trip to Vegas and Scott like tagged along. And then there was all these rumors in the tabloids that they had hooked up. And then... She has it on good authority through like one of the other lads that were there that Scott leaked that story to the tabloids to piss off Courtney. To get back at her. Oh God. Just trying to like annoy Courtney obviously in classic Scott, like manipulative tactics. So then Kristen says to Courtney, hey, it's not true. Then Courtney says to Kristen, well, I have sisters and I would never put myself in that position. And that like in that situation. Let's say Kim wouldn't go away with. Scott, when I'm when I've just broken up with him, you know, like, why did you put yours? Why did you go away with him when you knew that we'd just broken up? Roger. So Kristen took this as Courtney was looking for an out of the friendship. But then the Kardashians never denied it. This was all at the time. Just put a bit of context on it was when Kim was divorcing Chris Humphries. So Kristen was like, why didn't they use it as like a distraction from the Kim and Chris divorce? Because in the previous episode of Kristen's podcast, she was saying that the Kardashians are really addicted to fame. They always have a motive on how they can stay relevant.
- Speaker #0
Did she say that?
- Speaker #1
Yeah, and they'll do anything to have people talking about them. When Kristen got the text from Scott, the manipulative one, she was like, the irony is not lost on me because the timing is ridiculous because she calls them out in one episode saying they'll do anything for fame. Then Kristen gets this text from Scott. And then she's like, the Kardashians are trying to like silence me and control me via Scott. She was like, that's definitely a motive from like Chris or whoever to get Kristen to shut up. And she was like, no, I'm not going to do it. Fuck you. I'm not going to fall for your bullshit. And reads out the text on the next episode of her podcast. Scott then, insiders on page six on Daily Mail, said that Scott is fuming. Kristen reading out the message on her podcast was completely disrespectful. He didn't see it coming. There was no ulterior motive to the message. He was just reaching out to a fellow single parent who's successful and in the public eye and thought that they had like a bond over that. And also threw in a dig at Kristen saying that she's just trying to get PR and publicity for her podcast by using the Kardashians. And I think two things can be true at the same time because you have like Kristen trying to, you know, she's always been known for being a bit of a like A loud mouth, straight shooter, speaking the truth all the time, calling people out.
- Speaker #0
Straight shooter is such a funny phrase.
- Speaker #1
I know. Yeah, we say it a lot. I'm a straight shooter. I'm a straight shooter. You know me. So she is known for her like brutal honesty. So she is calling them out, but it is she's doing it on a podcast to boost listeners. But like while she still might be saying the truth, she is saying it on a podcast. So I don't know. I'd say it's just two fame hungry eejits calling each other out would be my view. What do you think?
- Speaker #0
Is he not learned as well? Do you remember he sent Courtney's ex an Instagram DM when she started going out with Travis and there was like pictures of her straddling Travis in Venice or something on a boat.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
And Scott DM'd Courtney's ex being like, have you seen this? Like, oh my God.
- Speaker #1
He needs to move on.
- Speaker #0
Kind of being like, we should join forces type thing. And your man posted the DM.
- Speaker #1
I remember that.
- Speaker #0
Because he was like, as if I'm going to,
- Speaker #1
like, bite. He just needs to move on. And the thing about Scott is, like, he doesn't know what he's had. You don't know what you've got until you've lost it. And then him going out with all those, like, 19-year-olds when you're a 35-year-old, 36, how old is he? 37? Your old father of three.
- Speaker #0
I think he's 40.
- Speaker #1
It's just so sick and sad. It's just like, and then obviously she goes and finds an amazing relationship in Travis. They are like... Literally, I've never seen love quite like that. And I'm delighted for them. And it's great. And it's very happy. But then now Scott is kind of like, well, he raced ahead. It's a bit of like the hare and the turtle. Like he raced ahead with all the younger girls and cheating on her when they were together. But then now she's the one who's won in the end. And he's the satto texting ex-boyfriends and ex-fake flings when he planted stories about him and Kristen getting together.
- Speaker #0
No, it is really sad. It really sad to. Especially with the kids and stuff. I think it's really sad.
- Speaker #1
I know. Yeah. So I think like there's kind of with him and Kristen, it's kind of like there's two of them in it.
- Speaker #0
They are quite similar, I would say. Yeah.
- Speaker #1
Like, I don't know. I think they're both trying to inflate their own like public profile. But I do appreciate like that's great goss from Kristen, regardless of her motives. It's great goss. Like she's calling out, it's funny because she's calling out the Kardashians for constantly trying to stay relevant. And, you know, there's always a motive and blah, blah. And then she's... talking about stuff. Totally. To keep herself relevant. And like, you know, once you say the Kardashians, you know, you get headlines. There's so many headlines about that episode. So, yeah, I still love the juicy, juicy gossip. So I'm here with a knife and fork.
- Speaker #0
Oh, it's so juicy. Another thing Clara brought to my attention this week via Instagram was a fantastic, it was very quick little clip by, I don't know what the woman does. Maybe she's in the hair transplant industry. I'll link it though in the The show notes, you can watch it. And she's going through a few male celebs and the hair transplant trend. And it's excellent. I'd say it's only like 40 seconds.
- Speaker #1
It's mouthwatering.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, she talks about Harry Styles, Justin Bieber, Prince Harry is in there as well. She kind of shows them up to a point, then they all shave their heads and then they get hair transplant surgery and it looks unbelievable. And really impressive work. Like the doctors that did it are very impressive.
- Speaker #1
And they do it preemptively. Whoa. Like as in, like Harry Styles did it before, like they sensed it was coming and they do it early rather than it getting to a really noticeable point. Totally. Like Justin Bieber, for example. Completely.
- Speaker #0
And you can kind of see, like when she does it, you're like, oh yeah. But she said a great line at the end. She said, hair transplants and jawline filler as a combo is a BBL for men.
- Speaker #1
it is which I really liked because jawlines they say an attractive face it's all about the jawline that's why Jennifer Aniston is so beautiful because she's a real glass cutting jaw that's my art teacher Kathleen used to say did you do art yeah with
- Speaker #0
her and then obviously a great hairline it's so funny yeah because I think men if you notice sometimes when they're doing their beard they'll make it angular there when the jaw is an angler and it works really well.
- Speaker #1
Not so well on others. Do you remember, speaking of Laguna Beach and the Hills, Lauren Conrad's boyfriend, Jason. Jason. Jason, who used to do the line when there wasn't much to work with and then it was like it would always move and go up higher or lower. It was like, this is not working. Obviously, it's of its time. It was the noughties. And it was like this one little line, almost like a Britney Spears mic.
- Speaker #0
you can do anything now to make yourself look conventionally good looking like as a guy yeah it's so much easier now yeah i grind my teeth apparently if they get to a certain point it makes your jaw go really square like there and if that's the case they you can get like botox in your jaw because it's like a muscle relaxant and i was like oh if it gets really bad i would consider that obviously like i don't want to grind down my teeth And then someone told me they know someone who got it done. And she was like, her face completely changed.
- Speaker #1
Because it's like jaw Botox.
- Speaker #0
And I was like, what? She was like, yeah, you get it there and like the side of your jaw, maybe like under your ear type thing, I think. So you don't clench as much. But apparently the girl's face, someone happened to the girl's face. No. So I was like, I'm not doing that.
- Speaker #1
No, no, no, that's terrible.
- Speaker #0
I know. Because I was like, oh, if that happens, I'll just do that.
- Speaker #1
And then she told me that.
- Speaker #0
I was like. I'm not doing that
- Speaker #1
I think she said something about like her face kind of dropping a bit or something no no no no but then Botox wears off though doesn't it it's not permanent but like if your face drops for however long three months no way no no no no horror story horror story
- Speaker #0
Clara thank you so much for your time today you're finishing us off with recommendation what is your record this month I mean week so it's a bit of an old one but I've just discovered the song
- Speaker #1
And it is Christina Aguilera did a Spotify live celebration, 25 years of her music career and the album stripped or, you know, it's just like Christina Aguilera is really having a moment right now. She looks incredible. We talked about before. She did like five or six songs of like, you know, the Mulan song, Genie in a Bottle. But she did a version of What a Girl Wants with Sabrina Carpenter. I've seen it. To say. that was the only thing I listened to over the weekend. Like I'd say my neighbours have something to say to me being like, do you have a problem? Why is the song on repeat for 48 hours?
- Speaker #0
Or totally get what you're doing.
- Speaker #1
Yes. Or can I join? It's just the best. version of that song I've heard. Their girly banter. The passing of the baton is just beautiful.
- Speaker #0
There's like a spark in the passing of the baton.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. And it's also like sharing the stage. Like Christina's not going like this is mine. Blah, blah. She's very much like Sabrina opens the song. Christina comes in with like a much louder microphone.
- Speaker #0
And they're both kind of like vibing while the other one is singing.
- Speaker #1
And the choir in the background or like the backup singers in the background. It is goosebumps gorgeous. listen to it just make sure you put it on repeat because it is fabulous can't recommend it enough
- Speaker #0
I actually am going to go listen to it now after this what a good waltz oh it's so good there you go thank you so much for listening don't forget to follow us on Instagram at soph underscore lions at classic cabana rate, review, subscribe tell your friends we'll talk to you next week make sure you try and see Wicked and Gladiator and then we can have a nice chat about it click it
- Speaker #1
thanks so much girlies and gays and fellow hogs dolls dolls guys that was brilliant brilliant I actually think considering we had nothing that was a really enjoyable chat
