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Back from their hiatus, the girls are back with a ream of content for viewing and commenting on. Reviewing it all from Conclave with Ralph Fiennes (the fashion is killer); to Netflix's Missing You; The Substance with Demi Moore, Katie Price on The Louis Theroux Podcast, Traitors on BBC, and even a Boyzone documentary. It's all about Oscar films, Golden Globe glamour, soft and gentle viewing from ones' January cocoon if you will.

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Speaker #0
We're back. It's House of Gossip. It's Sophie Lyons. It's Clara Kavner. We are back again. We're here for 2025's House of Gossip Pop Culture Nourishment for your beautiful year ahead. We hope you had a great Christmas, a fantastic New Year celebration. Our trotters have had a little bit of a break and now they're back fresh. Maybe they had a little manicure and we are too hot to trot, ready to goss. So how are you?
Speaker #1
I'm fabulous. I too am loving 2025 so far.
Speaker #0
It is great. We were just discussing there how lovely it is to be really boring. It's so nurturing, cosying up on a Friday night in. I'm not doing dry jam. I'm doing what I'm, I want to start a movement, okay?
Speaker #1
I know what you're going to say.
Speaker #0
Do you? And the movement is squeaky jam. So squeaky jam involves... You go to the gym, but I'm talking like yoga. I'm talking gentle. Then you eat foods. Okay, I did have like three cookies and I had to offset them with three satsumas. But you try to eat a bit cleaner. And then the drinks that you drink are like clear. So for me, no Guinness, no beer, but I can have like gin and tonic. I'm really trying to get tequila tonic, limes going. And then you just go around feeling squeaky clean.
Speaker #1
Oh, okay.
Speaker #0
Squeaky jam. I get that yeah I don't want to do a dry Jan I've never done a dry January but it's like just take it easy and I will not say a damp or a moist Jan so no not doing that it's a squeaky Jan also
Speaker #1
I was speaking to someone recently who's very balanced and like a guru and they were like this you know all or nothing like do you have to say yes or no like why can't it just be moderation which I actually think I'm okay at like a load of my close friends are proper or nothing and it's like a lot anyway I was telling this person like oh no not doing that and they were like that's fine if you don't want to do it right now but why don't we just leave the door ajar and I think 2025 is about leaving the door ajar ajar and get recouping open to possibilities not shutting it out but not you
Speaker #0
inviting it in very good balanced balanced boundaries zen sounds like I was talking to the Dalai Lama it's all about yeah who is this guru yeah yeah that's great advice because I think the all or nothing thing you just you're setting yourself up for a fail and then it's like oh you break it once and then you feel give yourself a hard time and January's not about that January's about mainlining tv shows content coziness Trying a recipe or two. Gentle.
Speaker #1
Serenity.
Speaker #0
You're big on, what's your New Year's res?
Speaker #1
I don't know. What is it? Oh, yeah. Sorry, my new bedtime.
Speaker #0
This is how exciting things are getting.
Speaker #1
One of my new resers is I've been in bed before by 10pm. The other night I turned my light off at 10 past nine. Wow. And I was so tired because I had a busy day. And then I leave the door open and James, who I live with, was... pottering around but the dark it was it was very soft lighting and the washing machine was going and it was soothing it was like a lullaby that is like basically you went and got some Botox by going to sleep at ten past nine it's like Higa it is Higa it was soft lighting it was lovely and I woke up the next day like delighted oh my god that's so good going to bed late is so out of vogue
Speaker #0
I know, I wish. And I'm trying to go a bit earlier because I love a morning. I was in a yoga class. No, sorry. I was listening to a witch on a podcast on Cagney Dunlop's podcast. Sorry, sorry, getting confused. And she said about New Year's resolutions, you should never do them in January. The time to do resolutions are in spring when the flowers and nature is blooming because you're all on your... Rebirth. Growth, change. You're springing into the new year. Whereas when you try to do in January, that's kind of the middle of winter. And I say to my friend Emma and she was like, yes, I was in yoga class. And they told me it was all about germination, like hibernation, like we're getting ready to go, but we're not going yet.
Speaker #1
Because I think the reason people do it is because they overindulge so much in December. Yes. That January, they're like, enough. But it doesn't need to be like that.
Speaker #0
No, sorry. Speaking of overindulging over the festive period, me and Mick went to Doolin for New Year's. Doolin, sorry. It was actually the first time. So usually we go away.
Speaker #1
My sister told me a touch of this and I couldn't wait to speak to you about it. She told me one thing and I was like, I can't wait to talk to her.
Speaker #0
So we go down to Doolin and, oh, we're having a great time. The weather was incredible. It was freezing, but it was like really hot. really sunny and we get to we go spend New Year's Eve in Gus O'Connor's pub and like Doolin is like a one man one horse town like it's like basically just a few shops but people are obsessed with it yeah loads of Americans go like it's a lot we were in this one pub and this like session broke out of these young it really reaffirmed my like faith in the youth of today like they were like 24 and they just brought their own guitar and just were like having a few drinks it's what I'm talking about
Speaker #1
That right there is the je ne sais quoi that you get in Irish people.
Speaker #0
You do. But like there was these Americans and you always know Americans because they're just wearing baseball hats. Like no matter time, day.
Speaker #1
You just know them,
Speaker #0
don't you? You just know. And their eyes were on stilts that this just this naturally broke out that it wasn't booked and it wasn't part of the schedule. Of course. But anyway, New Year's Eve were in Gloucester Connors and. they had a kind of a Christy Moore type guy on. And then the DJ came on and afterwards and he was so drunk. I'm talking about like an old DJ. Like this guy was like a seasoned DJ, shall we say. And he was so drunk that he kept playing the same songs and he kept, he played Coldplay, Viva La Vida. And you know my feelings on Chris Martin. Play that four times.
Speaker #1
That could be your New Year's reser to get rid of that problem.
Speaker #0
Four times. Viva la vida.
Speaker #1
I just welcome that.
Speaker #0
People started shouting at him, being like, come on, you've played that already. Now he did, all was forgiven because he played Maniac 2000, so all was forgiven. But like, we were like...
Speaker #1
This sounds great. Yeah,
Speaker #0
and it was like time to go at that point. It was like two o'clock. But anyway, we're hungover the next day. We were eating breakfast or whatever. And then my banking app, like Starling app, like beeps up these two things, decline, decline. And I was like, decline? Like, there's money in there. And I see somebody tried, not once, but twice, to charge me, instead of €11 for a round, €11,000. Twice. And I was like, oh my God. Like, thank fuck there wasn't, okay, one. I don't have that much money in my account. But like, imagine if they do. I was like, the fact that he just...
Speaker #1
This place sounds really great. Also 11 for a round.
Speaker #0
I know, Euro as well. Like imagine having to go back into that pub on New Year's Day and going, sorry, you charged me.
Speaker #1
Or if you were the employee who did it. When I was living in New York, I worked in a bar and we were drinking a good bit throughout the week and stuff. And so I'd be quite hungover then when I was working. And I went home from work, I think it was on a Monday, and I went home from work and I had done a day. shift on a night shift and I left and I was so excited I was really hungover I got home and I sat on my couch and I had an amazing um chipotle burrito nice I'd gotten the chipotle burrito I sat on the couch and I was just about to bite into it and my manager called me and I was like hello and he was like where are you and I was like I'm at home why and he was like table 54 where's the credit card and I was like sorry and he was like the corporate card, where is it? And they'd come in like this big group and I had just put it in my shirt pocket by accident, which you just did. Like you would just wrap it up and put it in your pocket. And so I had to go and bring the credit card back. And I went up to your one and I was like, the woman who owned it and I was like, I'm terribly sorry. Like I'm a bit hungover. She was like, mm-hmm. But like you get in big trouble for doing that.
Speaker #0
You do. And the Americans like love to fire.
Speaker #1
Well, not me. It was an Irish bar.
Speaker #0
anyway enough of work woes we hope yes you are all having a blessed and gentle January and today we're scrapping Gidor and Gites and the news items and we are mainlining content we have been consuming it at a rate of knots and we are here to digesting chewing yeah mulling debasing swishing swallowing
Speaker #1
yeah I'm really excited to discuss a few of the cross matches we have.
Speaker #0
Yeah, the overlap would be great to discuss. And over the festive period, there was lots to keep us busy. And we are going to talk them through with you this blessed day, this blessed podcast.
Speaker #1
I would say like there's spoilers and stuff, but I think if you haven't watched it, probably just skip it if you don't want to hear what we think.
Speaker #0
So we're going to do a little tete-a-tete. Sophie, me, Sophie, Sophie, me, me, Sophie, Sophie, tete-a-tete, goss, goss, goss. But we, yeah, we'll give warnings over spoilers, but like some things like.
Speaker #1
I would just take it that they're kind of spoilers.
Speaker #0
Yeah, if you haven't seen it by now.
Speaker #1
Get a grip. Let's kick it off. Where do you want to kick it off?
Speaker #0
You go, Sophs. Kick us off.
Speaker #1
Okay, well, this is the one I wanted to talk to you about for a few weeks. And it was one I really wanted to see. I ended up watching it on Apple TV with my mum, who really wanted to see it as well.
Speaker #0
Ah, yes. Conclave.
Speaker #1
It's the Pope one. It's Ralph Fiennes and...
Speaker #0
Stanley Tucci.
Speaker #1
Stanley Tucci. Sorry, I forgot about all of them as well.
Speaker #0
It's basically any man in Hollywood over the age of 60 who hasn't been cancelled yet. It stars in this film.
Speaker #1
Totally. And Conclave. is the vote for a pope, isn't it? Yeah. My main takeaway was the fashion. The garb they are wearing in it is so theatrical. There's one shot where it's a bird's eye view of the wall walking with umbrellas.
Speaker #0
Stunning.
Speaker #1
The cinematography is unbelievable. Yeah, it is interesting to see. It's all about voting for a new pope and what goes down. It takes, it's only a few days, it spans, the time spans. I think there's not much of a plot. Would you agree?
Speaker #0
It was told to me that it was a bit campier. So I was a bit kind of like waiting for a bit more like campy lines of like, I must conclave or something. I thought they might lean into the campiness a bit more. I think it kind of just exposes the hunger. It's kind of reflective of any organization, really. It could be politics. It could be another religion.
Speaker #1
Yeah, the politics is bizarre.
Speaker #0
Yeah, there was a left wing and a right wing of. all the cardinals they said like oh there hasn't been an Italian Pope for 40 years it's our turn now and how it comes down to like a political decision as opposed to who the right
Speaker #1
Pope would be and all the stuff of like he got 20 votes and he got 25 and then the next time it's like he got 19 votes and he got 27 the drama of that is amazing yeah and the rituals they do where like one will come up and put the vote in the it's so camp put the vote in this like big globe thing and then They read it out loud saying Cardinal Francis. And then they get a pin, like a needle pin, like a sewing pin. And then they push that through the centre of the of the ballot, like the card and pull it all through. Yeah. With a red thread. And there's all these kind of like red wax, like when the Pope dies. Yes. They seal his room with all this red ribbon.
Speaker #0
Yeah.
Speaker #1
And this big waxy red seal, like it's a treat for the census.
Speaker #0
to know where all your collection money is going that's for sure like the the money and i'd say it's pretty true to form would you yeah it seemed because they are getting a was it the baftas they got a nomination for like set i looked up where they filmed and stuff but i'd say what they're portraying is pretty true to form but like the priest hotel is mario has marble walls like that is next level i know i think red doors i know i did find it quite hard to disassociate my like you hatred and anger towards the Catholic Church and the outrageous, salubrious glamour and appreciate that. You know, when like Ralph Fiennes at one point, he's getting changed. It was like third outfit change of the day. Actually, sorry, it's pretty ironic.
Speaker #1
Oh my God, so many outfit changes. There's like corsets and stuff.
Speaker #0
I know. But you know, there's like three little priests.
Speaker #1
Oh my God, his dresses.
Speaker #0
Can't you think they get into their line of work? Like, do they say a mass sometimes? Or is that what you train to be? That's what you want to be is like a pope dresser or a cardinal dresser? No,
Speaker #1
are they not just like cardinals in training? Oh,
Speaker #0
that's what you'd have to do.
Speaker #1
It's like interns.
Speaker #0
That's how you pay your dues.
Speaker #1
I think so. I mean, it doesn't seem right. But like, also, can he not get dressed himself?
Speaker #0
Not with that many layers, I suppose, and corsets.
Speaker #1
So many. If you're into fashion or if you're camp. Yeah,
Speaker #0
yeah.
Speaker #1
Purely, you don't even need to watch it for the storyline. It is so visually stunning. I thought now the end, you know, when your man.
Speaker #0
OK, spoiler coming up. Yeah,
Speaker #1
it turns out with the womb. Yeah, that was so random.
Speaker #0
Yeah. So basically they all the kind of the rats and the Judas priests get voted out and they vote for this. A rogue kind of outsider ends up coming in. Yeah,
Speaker #1
no one really knows who he is.
Speaker #0
Yeah. And like, but the Pope who died knew. Anyway, he kind of comes in, says this amazing speech and then they pick him. But then it's almost like a bit of a Trojan horse because they're all Ralph Fiennes is fucking delighted, popping bottles, you know, tete-a-tete-ing with the fellow gardeners. We did it, girlies.
Speaker #1
Snaps. Snaps for him.
Speaker #0
Yeah, let that white smoke blow. Michelangelo, let's do this. Then it turns out that Pope Innocent, is what they give their name, is like a hermaphrodite and has a womb. I know it's based on a book.
Speaker #1
It was just so random.
Speaker #0
And then it kind of ends.
Speaker #1
It completely ends.
Speaker #0
But what I didn't like was like, because the Catholic Church, and especially what the Pope and everyone has said about homosexuals, what they've said about trans and everything, would it not have been so much better to be like Pope Innocent was a trans man? And then it's like now that the Catholic Church is forced to accept it because they've chosen this pope. No disrespect to hermaphrodites, but I felt like that was kind of like on the fence a little bit.
Speaker #1
Now I'll get controversial. Like, did we need that kind of storyline in how a pope is chosen?
Speaker #0
Do you mean the conclaving?
Speaker #1
No, like the hermaphrodite or trans or any like.
Speaker #0
Did that need to even be included?
Speaker #1
It was irrelevant. No, it didn't. Like, didn't need to be there. I was like, are you serious? And then it wasn't really dealt with. I just thought it was so like. come on, like, we don't need that.
Speaker #0
The whole way women are treated in that film and like Isabella Rossi-Lehney plays a fucking blinder as the best nun.
Speaker #1
She's slay,
Speaker #0
isn't she? I always remember Mary Mackley said this amazing thing. She spoke in the Vatican and she said that not letting women be part of, like be priests and cardinals is like having a one-winged bird. And I just think that's a perfect way to describe it. Like having all the women prepare the gnocchi for the cardinals and all the sisters and like, oh, Oh, we couldn't do without our sisters. Fuck off. No, they're no way more than you. And they're still so subservient. So you're right. They could have left the kind of sexual organs of Pope. It didn't need it. It could have dealt more with like, yeah, maybe gender balancing. No,
Speaker #1
I just wanted to know about how you get a new Pope. Because no one's ever, we've never seen that. Like, just stick to it. Don't bring something else into it. And equally, I will say about women in the church, and I haven't thought about it, this is completely off the cuff, but if you're in an organisation that's supposedly about community and, you know, bringing people together and stuff and their rights aren't equal, then why would you want to be in it in the first place?
Speaker #0
Exactly. And then it's all done on like, I'll love you if you're a heterosexual. I'll love you if the man is in charge. I'll love you if.
Speaker #1
And as we have learned recently, one loves one unconditionally and do not try to change behavior of another. Yeah, because it does not work. As I have realized, do not try to change someone. No. Take them as they are. Because they're not going to change, man. No,
Speaker #0
they...
Speaker #1
And they're going to waste your time, girl. That was quite a huge debate. It was a debate with the church. I liked that. Yours is next, Clara. Let's take it off religion and back into something else. Would you like to speak about hermaphrodites?
Speaker #0
No, I'd like to speak about a little tinkerbell herself, Sabrina Carpenter. I feel like we always talk about Tiny Desk on this show, but the year ended with a sparkly wind chime of an episode with Sabrina Carpenter on it. We'll link it in the show notes. She was so good. So Tiny Desk is by NPR. It's a very successful YouTube series. You can watch anyone from like Coldplay to, I think Adele has done it, like loads of big names.
Speaker #1
You're obsessed with Coldplay.
Speaker #0
Oh yeah, I can't stop mentioning them. Sam Smith did an amazing one. There was that one that went viral in December, the one with the rapper Dochi. I don't know if you saw that. Oh, my God. Unbelievable. She did the one before Sabrina Carpenter. It's like a little live show at this tiny desk and there's an audience in the background that you never see. But Sabrina Carpenter was amazing. She plays the chimes or like the ding-a-ling with her tush. It was great.
Speaker #1
Question. What do you think about this whole thing about her not singing in her concerts?
Speaker #0
I haven't seen that.
Speaker #1
It's a huge thing.
Speaker #0
So she's miming a live record, though, it must be. Yeah. It's not like the Britney miming where it's like, that's just a CD. As in,
Speaker #1
like, if you look at her, there's so much footage and I love her. I'm like one of her number one fans. But someone called her out being like, you're not singing on your tour. And she's doing date after date, like she's doing so many dates.
Speaker #0
Oh, Sabrina.
Speaker #1
I know there's all this footage, but then whoever said it, she clapped back. and was like, I'm going to get my audio guy to turn down such and such or whatever.
Speaker #0
Come on. Yeah. Because that's what Beyonce got in trouble with at Obama's inauguration. She sang.
Speaker #1
She sang a pre-recorded, I think you told me that originally.
Speaker #0
She mimed a live recording. And she clapped back and said, everybody does this. This is way more common than you think. It was the same, she did the Super Bowl like a week later or something. So I think that had something to do with it. It was the orchestra that ratted her out.
Speaker #1
What do you mean? They went and told on her?
Speaker #0
they were there when she was rehearsing and leaked it.
Speaker #1
Is it weird? I think anyone in an orchestra seems really lovely.
Speaker #0
I know.
Speaker #1
What a little wrath.
Speaker #0
Then it's like, did Beyonce piss them off?
Speaker #1
Oh, probably. We do need to discuss like the whole Beyonce and stuff. I know. Eventually. That's next, another episode. But I'm just saying we need to get into it.
Speaker #0
We do.
Speaker #1
Sure, this isn't about that. No,
Speaker #0
sorry.
Speaker #1
So just something to think about on Sapcarp, even though I adore her. I'm not saying anything. My other one that I watched on Netflix was Missing You. It is the same people who did Fool Me Once with Michelle Keegan. You murdered my husband. Yeah. It's the same person as Fool Me Once who's Harlan Coben. He has a 14 book deal with Netflix.
Speaker #0
14? Who picks that number?
Speaker #1
I don't know. But this Missing You one was number 10. Fool Me Once was obviously number nine. And they're very similar in... the way they pan out style it's quite ridiculous but it's good TV like for January your man the guy in it from Top Boy he's so hot really he plays the fiance who went missing just left 11 years ago and they're sort of picking it up 11 years ago the way the twists and turns are so like some of it's so funny and the Guardian wrote this gasp he's saying You won't remember a thing about it 10 minutes later, which is so it. Like, I can't even remember what happened. But it's a six parter. It's quick. It's like thrillery. You're a bit like, are they evil or are they good? I'd highly recommend it. It's not too scary.
Speaker #0
I heard it was like the premise was her partner goes missing, but it's not like a missing person because the closets are empty. And then she matches with him like 11 years later on a dating app. Yeah. Like we always say, girlies, the ghosts always come back to haunt you. Anytime you get ghosted, they always come back to haunt you.
Speaker #1
They so. Something happened to me recently that the ghost did come back to haunt. Well, that wasn't really a ghost, but it always come back. It did. I'm waiting for one more and then I'll believe your theory.
Speaker #0
Just need one little spooky ghost, one little Casper to come back.
Speaker #1
One asshole. And I'd recommend it. The guy in Top Boy is so hot. He is. gorgeous. I was googling who he's married to and stuff and it's just like doesn't add up.
Speaker #0
That is not me.
Speaker #1
But I never finished, I never finished Top Boy. I had like three episodes left with Barry Keoghan entered into it and scared me. So if anyone's listening, should I proceed alone? Because I was watching it. I was watching it with my boyfriend at the time and I got too scared then and we just had to stop. But there's three episodes left and this was over a year ago and I feel like I need to finish it. But like... James won't watch it with me.
Speaker #0
Arnie?
Speaker #1
I think I need another human.
Speaker #0
A human, not a dog. Okay.
Speaker #1
Yeah, who would just watch this? It needs to be a guy as well.
Speaker #0
Okay. Well, invitation's open.
Speaker #1
Or can I watch it alone? I'm not too sure. Anyway, Missing You on Netflix is like really good thriller garbage.
Speaker #0
Right. Yeah, I've heard loads of people talking about it. Sounds like a perfect January viewing.
Speaker #1
Yeah, absolutely. Gazzer, back to you.
Speaker #0
This tete-a-tete is fiery. I know you're not watching it. But Traitors is back for season three. Oh,
Speaker #1
yes.
Speaker #0
I am currently watching it all up to date. I'm so obsessed with Claudia Winkerman. I just am in awe of her every outfit, her hair care, her eyeliner. Like, it's just she's such prowess and just an incredible host. Takes it so seriously and really gets into it. Like, she's really part of the show. Boss. I must say, just from a general point of view, this season is so not as good as last year. Like it's very well, I'm just finding the cast is very bitchy. They take everything really like personally. Now, this is from a website called the tab dot com, but it was going around on TikTok. When the producers were recruiting for season three, one of them discovered. So it's run by this company called Studio Lambert. Producers discovered that there was this massive plot by the applicants to all work together and use code language to win the game. So even when people get eliminated, they would all split the cash money. Or the prize money. So they found it. It was all these chats and they found them in communications online. So they had to get rid of their A team. And this cast definitely seems like a B team. There's a lot of tears and it's like... Guys, no one's actually getting like really murdered. And don't get me wrong, like I'm watching every single episode and I love the show and the format's amazing. But the problem is with the traitors, more broadly speaking with all the series, only the dumb survive because the traitors. want to keep the dum-dums in. So they get rid of the big personalities and the characters because they want the innocent kind of people, the deer in the headlights to stay because they're more gullible and more malleable. So this year, unfortunately, the traders haven't been as strong as they were last year. Like the last year, they were ruthless and they had strategies. This year, it's just a bit like, you might've seen her online, Linda, the 70-year-old retired opera singer, who she's all over the love of Huns Instagram. And like her acting is so bad and she'd be like, what? And there's a fully clip of like Claudia going traitors and Linda just looks at Claudia. It's like, oh, my God. Yeah. And there's just they picked like a lot of the same characters. So there's like there was I counted five men, white men with brown hair, with all the same. You could interchange them all. They're all the exact same, same pettiness. Yeah. Not following gut feelings. So. I'm just a bit disappointed by this series, but like still watch it. There's an Irish girl in it and she wears the craziest outfits I've ever seen. But like respect. It's like I don't even know where you would shop for those things. But she had a real hard time of it. So I can't wait for her now to do all the press about it and see what it was really like. It's like an Irish girly in there.
Speaker #1
But is it on three times a week?
Speaker #0
Yeah, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, BBC. And then they do this uncloaked show afterwards, which. It's so cool. They like record it like a live podcast. I give it, say if you ever watch podcasts on YouTube, but it goes out as a TV show and then a longer version goes out as a podcast.
Speaker #1
I'd love to get into it, but I just find, you know, when something's on live three times a week.
Speaker #0
It's a big commitment.
Speaker #1
It's another love island. Yeah. Which I haven't managed. We'll talk about that later.
Speaker #0
But if you do go back, season two is so much better. I wouldn't, I wouldn't start with this season.
Speaker #1
I saw a clip though is there like a celebrity one in the States yeah they're talking about doing a celebrity one in the UK
Speaker #0
Gemma Collins apparently rumoured down down
Speaker #1
Zac Efron's brother is on the American one yeah the American ones they use like C-list D-list celebs and I saw a clip and they were like yeah but your brother's a shit actor or something like that and there's like a housewife in it yeah it looks it looks pretty good yeah I think they've revived some careers by going on to that and I suppose with the reality TV show people
Speaker #0
They know how the format works, whereas like this trailer, so you get like just normal people. And there's a there's a greatness in that because there's like an innocence. But I suppose it adds another dimension when you have people, you know, how the format of reality TV and how to act up for the camera. So they're good in their own ways. But yeah,
Speaker #1
I'd love to get into it.
Speaker #0
Season two, honestly, will blow your socks off. You'll be screaming at the telly and you can watch it in your own time. You and James should definitely watch that, actually.
Speaker #1
Is this your one that Harry won?
Speaker #0
Oh, you know, the winner. But still, it's great. It's such a good season. Great pace, great momentum, great portrayals. It's good.
Speaker #1
Roger that. God, there's so much content.
Speaker #0
All right, what you got next?
Speaker #1
Top line, just something you should listen to is Katie Price on Lutheroo's podcast. Because I've seen stuff about it recently and it's just like, there's a lot going on. So much surgery, all this and all that. This gal is so candid. It is such an enjoyable lesson. I listened to it on the way to the airport the other day. She's so like transparent. She knows what she's doing. Sometimes it's just outrageous, but it's a really good lesson. At one point she said something very profound. She said, I wish I knew what I knew now to go back, which I think we all do, don't we?
Speaker #0
Like, what would you tell your younger self?
Speaker #1
Yeah. Or, you know, dump him.
Speaker #0
Yeah, dump him. Who, Louis Theroux, I must give his pod a listen.
Speaker #1
Oh, it's good.
Speaker #0
Who does he have coming up that, were we and you talking about it?
Speaker #1
He has like Nick Curious.
Speaker #0
Yes, was that it?
Speaker #1
Tennis player, it's a good listen. He had Paul Meskell. He had Barry Keoghan, I didn't listen to that one. It's good because I love him.
Speaker #0
He is good. Armie Hammer, that's who it is.
Speaker #1
That's who it is. When's that?
Speaker #0
It's just coming up in season four.
Speaker #1
That will be wild because he'll be like, do you mind explaining to me what happened? Yeah. Because he's always like, I'm out of the loop.
Speaker #0
So it's coming out weekly from the 14th of Jan. So it must be in his roster.
Speaker #1
Oh, my God. That's great news.
Speaker #0
Like, why do you like eating women's bones? Like, why do you eat a raw deer heart? Do you still eat people?
Speaker #1
That's just a quick one that I think was good. Dazzer, back to you.
Speaker #0
I've watched a lot of the Oscar films. So I'm just going to do a quick micro review. So watch Anora, which is a modern day pretty woman with a Russian oligarch twist. Oh. Your one who stars in it as Anora is Mikey Madison. Watch it for her, is what I would say. People said it's a comedy. Again, like Conclave, not what I thought. I wouldn't call that a comedy. It's definitely an hour too long, but she has amazing hair that has glitter going all the way through it. And I need to know. how she did that because that would just be so fun for like a festival. It's like glitter strands.
Speaker #1
Oh, I know how to do that. Oh my God.
Speaker #0
Okay, let's.
Speaker #1
Sorry, not that I know how to do it. You can get it done in hair salons. It's a. I used to work with a girl who did it.
Speaker #0
Oh, fun. That'd be great. Yeah. But yeah, somewhat overhyped for me. I hate to say. A Real Pain starring, it's written by Jesse Eisenberg and stars himself and Ciarán Culkin, you know, Macaulay Culkin's brother. Yeah. They're cousins who go on like a good. a holocaust tour around Poland to kind of reconnect with their roots after their granny passes away. It's one of those movies that is like real character performances on both of them. I feel like Jesse Eisenberg is, he always plays the same character. It's this kind of like neurotic, jumpy, maybe not New Yorker, but like American. And he does play into that this time, but he's really good. I thought...
Speaker #1
He's not very diverse,
Speaker #0
obviously. No, but... out of all the times I've seen him play these characters I think this is the softest and it's actually really nice because I think Kieran Culkin is getting all the attention and Oscar buzz but actually I think Jesse Osborne does a great job and all the music is by Chopin you know the Polish pianist of course yeah then we've gone through all the pettiness the petty priests of Conclave and then gotta finish it on the substance Demi Moore it yeah this is what I'm dying to hear is incredible I must say, I didn't enjoy it for like half of it because of all the body horror and I'm not good at that. And it's very visceral. It's almost like ASMR the way they use like sound and visuals, like when people are eating and the way they use food.
Speaker #1
Yeah, that's what I saw.
Speaker #0
And then there's a lot of needles. So if you're not good with needles, it's not a good one. But it's so incredible and it takes an idea of like, you know, women and beauty standards. And it makes it a bit like meta. It makes it a bit abstract. Like there's very little people in it. There's very little conversation in it. And then it's all about like how oppressed women are by these beauty standards. And then you either you don't do anything and you stay home and rot or you do do something and then you do too much and then you look like a monster. And then the whole thing about the substance is like when you take the drug, there's the you you want to be and you wish you were and the you who you are now. But you you're the same person, but you're two different people.
Speaker #1
It looks really visceral that you've completely captivated me there.
Speaker #0
Yeah, it just it really goes into how you can't be who you were when you were younger because you are who you are now. And how do you bridge that gap? And do you bridge it with, well, like there's an ejection, the substance, but like it's a nod to like Botox or fillers or Ozempic, that kind of stuff. So it's Demi Moore is fantastic in it. And yeah,
Speaker #1
she'll definitely get something when she in a word.
Speaker #0
The girl who plays the other Demi Moore. is oh my god her name she's in four weddings and funeral andy mcdowell yeah it's andy mcdowell's daughter sorry yeah she's been in a good few things she um she's been like once upon a time in hollywood i must say though like in the credits her tush should have gotten a credit because there is a lot of tush action it's just so much zooming in on i wonder what decision maybe i just noticed it too much or something but there was like so much zoom ins and zoom outs is it good it's a stunning tush but like oh yeah
Speaker #1
I suspect.
Speaker #0
It was like there was it just really featured a lot. But it's worth the gore. It's worth the horror. It takes big swings, but I think it kind of pays off. Like it's a real thinker. Like I had to mainline like two episodes of Gavin and Stacey to calm down and not have nightmares. Oh,
Speaker #1
Jesus. OK. My last few ones are just I Have to Get on Love Island, which I haven't gotten onto yet. And I feel really left behind. Curtis is in it.
Speaker #0
His hair. What a shit lid. Yeah,
Speaker #1
I'm really excited about that. Then also Alan and the Amanda Spanish job is coming back. I love those two together. I will be watching that at the end of Jan. And then also the Boyzone documentary with Lou Walsh is in it. And it looks so scandalous.
Speaker #0
How hasn't he been cancelled yet? It's amazing. If he survived Big Brother.
Speaker #1
It looks proper scandalous.
Speaker #0
Yeah, it's funny. That was great. What a sum up.
Speaker #1
It feels like it's taken my whole like December into convo. Yes. December, January. Yes.
Speaker #0
it does and there's still there's other things I want to see Mufasa definitely want to see starring Blue Ivy and Kneecap which is getting loads of Oscar buzz about that Irish movie yeah I need to watch that my dad watched it and he said it's amazing I was like okay well I'll see TK loving it I think it's nice to distract yourself with all this like fantastic pop culture content to distract us from Puff Daddy and all that Justin Baldoni Blake Lively barrel of shit that I couldn't care less about because it's so confusing.
Speaker #1
It is nice to remove yourself from the garbage.
Speaker #0
Like that mudslinging contest. I'm suing you for 400 million. Like this means nothing anymore. Can everyone, I just, people wish people would just give up. It's so ridiculous.
Speaker #1
Yeah, what's the point?
Speaker #0
What is the point? And it's like, they're just throwing shit at each other and it's just so boring.
Speaker #1
It's a willy measuring contest.
Speaker #0
Oh, it is. So luckily we have all this. beautiful content to distract ourselves hopefully I have some Love Island updates for you next week
Speaker #1
I need to get on board it's like homework for me I feel really out of the loop loads of stuff's already happened yeah well thank you so much for listening to us we are so happy to be back yeehaw you can follow us on Instagram at Soph underscore Lions and at
Speaker #0
Clasicabana we hope you have a blessed week we're so happy to be back in your ears Great tidings, gentle January vibes to you and let your soul soar. Bye.
Speaker #1
That was lovely.

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Speaker #0
We're back. It's House of Gossip. It's Sophie Lyons. It's Clara Kavner. We are back again. We're here for 2025's House of Gossip Pop Culture Nourishment for your beautiful year ahead. We hope you had a great Christmas, a fantastic New Year celebration. Our trotters have had a little bit of a break and now they're back fresh. Maybe they had a little manicure and we are too hot to trot, ready to goss. So how are you?
Speaker #1
I'm fabulous. I too am loving 2025 so far.
Speaker #0
It is great. We were just discussing there how lovely it is to be really boring. It's so nurturing, cosying up on a Friday night in. I'm not doing dry jam. I'm doing what I'm, I want to start a movement, okay?
Speaker #1
I know what you're going to say.
Speaker #0
Do you? And the movement is squeaky jam. So squeaky jam involves... You go to the gym, but I'm talking like yoga. I'm talking gentle. Then you eat foods. Okay, I did have like three cookies and I had to offset them with three satsumas. But you try to eat a bit cleaner. And then the drinks that you drink are like clear. So for me, no Guinness, no beer, but I can have like gin and tonic. I'm really trying to get tequila tonic, limes going. And then you just go around feeling squeaky clean.
Speaker #1
Oh, okay.
Speaker #0
Squeaky jam. I get that yeah I don't want to do a dry Jan I've never done a dry January but it's like just take it easy and I will not say a damp or a moist Jan so no not doing that it's a squeaky Jan also
Speaker #1
I was speaking to someone recently who's very balanced and like a guru and they were like this you know all or nothing like do you have to say yes or no like why can't it just be moderation which I actually think I'm okay at like a load of my close friends are proper or nothing and it's like a lot anyway I was telling this person like oh no not doing that and they were like that's fine if you don't want to do it right now but why don't we just leave the door ajar and I think 2025 is about leaving the door ajar ajar and get recouping open to possibilities not shutting it out but not you
Speaker #0
inviting it in very good balanced balanced boundaries zen sounds like I was talking to the Dalai Lama it's all about yeah who is this guru yeah yeah that's great advice because I think the all or nothing thing you just you're setting yourself up for a fail and then it's like oh you break it once and then you feel give yourself a hard time and January's not about that January's about mainlining tv shows content coziness Trying a recipe or two. Gentle.
Speaker #1
Serenity.
Speaker #0
You're big on, what's your New Year's res?
Speaker #1
I don't know. What is it? Oh, yeah. Sorry, my new bedtime.
Speaker #0
This is how exciting things are getting.
Speaker #1
One of my new resers is I've been in bed before by 10pm. The other night I turned my light off at 10 past nine. Wow. And I was so tired because I had a busy day. And then I leave the door open and James, who I live with, was... pottering around but the dark it was it was very soft lighting and the washing machine was going and it was soothing it was like a lullaby that is like basically you went and got some Botox by going to sleep at ten past nine it's like Higa it is Higa it was soft lighting it was lovely and I woke up the next day like delighted oh my god that's so good going to bed late is so out of vogue
Speaker #0
I know, I wish. And I'm trying to go a bit earlier because I love a morning. I was in a yoga class. No, sorry. I was listening to a witch on a podcast on Cagney Dunlop's podcast. Sorry, sorry, getting confused. And she said about New Year's resolutions, you should never do them in January. The time to do resolutions are in spring when the flowers and nature is blooming because you're all on your... Rebirth. Growth, change. You're springing into the new year. Whereas when you try to do in January, that's kind of the middle of winter. And I say to my friend Emma and she was like, yes, I was in yoga class. And they told me it was all about germination, like hibernation, like we're getting ready to go, but we're not going yet.
Speaker #1
Because I think the reason people do it is because they overindulge so much in December. Yes. That January, they're like, enough. But it doesn't need to be like that.
Speaker #0
No, sorry. Speaking of overindulging over the festive period, me and Mick went to Doolin for New Year's. Doolin, sorry. It was actually the first time. So usually we go away.
Speaker #1
My sister told me a touch of this and I couldn't wait to speak to you about it. She told me one thing and I was like, I can't wait to talk to her.
Speaker #0
So we go down to Doolin and, oh, we're having a great time. The weather was incredible. It was freezing, but it was like really hot. really sunny and we get to we go spend New Year's Eve in Gus O'Connor's pub and like Doolin is like a one man one horse town like it's like basically just a few shops but people are obsessed with it yeah loads of Americans go like it's a lot we were in this one pub and this like session broke out of these young it really reaffirmed my like faith in the youth of today like they were like 24 and they just brought their own guitar and just were like having a few drinks it's what I'm talking about
Speaker #1
That right there is the je ne sais quoi that you get in Irish people.
Speaker #0
You do. But like there was these Americans and you always know Americans because they're just wearing baseball hats. Like no matter time, day.
Speaker #1
You just know them,
Speaker #0
don't you? You just know. And their eyes were on stilts that this just this naturally broke out that it wasn't booked and it wasn't part of the schedule. Of course. But anyway, New Year's Eve were in Gloucester Connors and. they had a kind of a Christy Moore type guy on. And then the DJ came on and afterwards and he was so drunk. I'm talking about like an old DJ. Like this guy was like a seasoned DJ, shall we say. And he was so drunk that he kept playing the same songs and he kept, he played Coldplay, Viva La Vida. And you know my feelings on Chris Martin. Play that four times.
Speaker #1
That could be your New Year's reser to get rid of that problem.
Speaker #0
Four times. Viva la vida.
Speaker #1
I just welcome that.
Speaker #0
People started shouting at him, being like, come on, you've played that already. Now he did, all was forgiven because he played Maniac 2000, so all was forgiven. But like, we were like...
Speaker #1
This sounds great. Yeah,
Speaker #0
and it was like time to go at that point. It was like two o'clock. But anyway, we're hungover the next day. We were eating breakfast or whatever. And then my banking app, like Starling app, like beeps up these two things, decline, decline. And I was like, decline? Like, there's money in there. And I see somebody tried, not once, but twice, to charge me, instead of €11 for a round, €11,000. Twice. And I was like, oh my God. Like, thank fuck there wasn't, okay, one. I don't have that much money in my account. But like, imagine if they do. I was like, the fact that he just...
Speaker #1
This place sounds really great. Also 11 for a round.
Speaker #0
I know, Euro as well. Like imagine having to go back into that pub on New Year's Day and going, sorry, you charged me.
Speaker #1
Or if you were the employee who did it. When I was living in New York, I worked in a bar and we were drinking a good bit throughout the week and stuff. And so I'd be quite hungover then when I was working. And I went home from work, I think it was on a Monday, and I went home from work and I had done a day. shift on a night shift and I left and I was so excited I was really hungover I got home and I sat on my couch and I had an amazing um chipotle burrito nice I'd gotten the chipotle burrito I sat on the couch and I was just about to bite into it and my manager called me and I was like hello and he was like where are you and I was like I'm at home why and he was like table 54 where's the credit card and I was like sorry and he was like the corporate card, where is it? And they'd come in like this big group and I had just put it in my shirt pocket by accident, which you just did. Like you would just wrap it up and put it in your pocket. And so I had to go and bring the credit card back. And I went up to your one and I was like, the woman who owned it and I was like, I'm terribly sorry. Like I'm a bit hungover. She was like, mm-hmm. But like you get in big trouble for doing that.
Speaker #0
You do. And the Americans like love to fire.
Speaker #1
Well, not me. It was an Irish bar.
Speaker #0
anyway enough of work woes we hope yes you are all having a blessed and gentle January and today we're scrapping Gidor and Gites and the news items and we are mainlining content we have been consuming it at a rate of knots and we are here to digesting chewing yeah mulling debasing swishing swallowing
Speaker #1
yeah I'm really excited to discuss a few of the cross matches we have.
Speaker #0
Yeah, the overlap would be great to discuss. And over the festive period, there was lots to keep us busy. And we are going to talk them through with you this blessed day, this blessed podcast.
Speaker #1
I would say like there's spoilers and stuff, but I think if you haven't watched it, probably just skip it if you don't want to hear what we think.
Speaker #0
So we're going to do a little tete-a-tete. Sophie, me, Sophie, Sophie, me, me, Sophie, Sophie, tete-a-tete, goss, goss, goss. But we, yeah, we'll give warnings over spoilers, but like some things like.
Speaker #1
I would just take it that they're kind of spoilers.
Speaker #0
Yeah, if you haven't seen it by now.
Speaker #1
Get a grip. Let's kick it off. Where do you want to kick it off?
Speaker #0
You go, Sophs. Kick us off.
Speaker #1
Okay, well, this is the one I wanted to talk to you about for a few weeks. And it was one I really wanted to see. I ended up watching it on Apple TV with my mum, who really wanted to see it as well.
Speaker #0
Ah, yes. Conclave.
Speaker #1
It's the Pope one. It's Ralph Fiennes and...
Speaker #0
Stanley Tucci.
Speaker #1
Stanley Tucci. Sorry, I forgot about all of them as well.
Speaker #0
It's basically any man in Hollywood over the age of 60 who hasn't been cancelled yet. It stars in this film.
Speaker #1
Totally. And Conclave. is the vote for a pope, isn't it? Yeah. My main takeaway was the fashion. The garb they are wearing in it is so theatrical. There's one shot where it's a bird's eye view of the wall walking with umbrellas.
Speaker #0
Stunning.
Speaker #1
The cinematography is unbelievable. Yeah, it is interesting to see. It's all about voting for a new pope and what goes down. It takes, it's only a few days, it spans, the time spans. I think there's not much of a plot. Would you agree?
Speaker #0
It was told to me that it was a bit campier. So I was a bit kind of like waiting for a bit more like campy lines of like, I must conclave or something. I thought they might lean into the campiness a bit more. I think it kind of just exposes the hunger. It's kind of reflective of any organization, really. It could be politics. It could be another religion.
Speaker #1
Yeah, the politics is bizarre.
Speaker #0
Yeah, there was a left wing and a right wing of. all the cardinals they said like oh there hasn't been an Italian Pope for 40 years it's our turn now and how it comes down to like a political decision as opposed to who the right
Speaker #1
Pope would be and all the stuff of like he got 20 votes and he got 25 and then the next time it's like he got 19 votes and he got 27 the drama of that is amazing yeah and the rituals they do where like one will come up and put the vote in the it's so camp put the vote in this like big globe thing and then They read it out loud saying Cardinal Francis. And then they get a pin, like a needle pin, like a sewing pin. And then they push that through the centre of the of the ballot, like the card and pull it all through. Yeah. With a red thread. And there's all these kind of like red wax, like when the Pope dies. Yes. They seal his room with all this red ribbon.
Speaker #0
Yeah.
Speaker #1
And this big waxy red seal, like it's a treat for the census.
Speaker #0
to know where all your collection money is going that's for sure like the the money and i'd say it's pretty true to form would you yeah it seemed because they are getting a was it the baftas they got a nomination for like set i looked up where they filmed and stuff but i'd say what they're portraying is pretty true to form but like the priest hotel is mario has marble walls like that is next level i know i think red doors i know i did find it quite hard to disassociate my like you hatred and anger towards the Catholic Church and the outrageous, salubrious glamour and appreciate that. You know, when like Ralph Fiennes at one point, he's getting changed. It was like third outfit change of the day. Actually, sorry, it's pretty ironic.
Speaker #1
Oh my God, so many outfit changes. There's like corsets and stuff.
Speaker #0
I know. But you know, there's like three little priests.
Speaker #1
Oh my God, his dresses.
Speaker #0
Can't you think they get into their line of work? Like, do they say a mass sometimes? Or is that what you train to be? That's what you want to be is like a pope dresser or a cardinal dresser? No,
Speaker #1
are they not just like cardinals in training? Oh,
Speaker #0
that's what you'd have to do.
Speaker #1
It's like interns.
Speaker #0
That's how you pay your dues.
Speaker #1
I think so. I mean, it doesn't seem right. But like, also, can he not get dressed himself?
Speaker #0
Not with that many layers, I suppose, and corsets.
Speaker #1
So many. If you're into fashion or if you're camp. Yeah,
Speaker #0
yeah.
Speaker #1
Purely, you don't even need to watch it for the storyline. It is so visually stunning. I thought now the end, you know, when your man.
Speaker #0
OK, spoiler coming up. Yeah,
Speaker #1
it turns out with the womb. Yeah, that was so random.
Speaker #0
Yeah. So basically they all the kind of the rats and the Judas priests get voted out and they vote for this. A rogue kind of outsider ends up coming in. Yeah,
Speaker #1
no one really knows who he is.
Speaker #0
Yeah. And like, but the Pope who died knew. Anyway, he kind of comes in, says this amazing speech and then they pick him. But then it's almost like a bit of a Trojan horse because they're all Ralph Fiennes is fucking delighted, popping bottles, you know, tete-a-tete-ing with the fellow gardeners. We did it, girlies.
Speaker #1
Snaps. Snaps for him.
Speaker #0
Yeah, let that white smoke blow. Michelangelo, let's do this. Then it turns out that Pope Innocent, is what they give their name, is like a hermaphrodite and has a womb. I know it's based on a book.
Speaker #1
It was just so random.
Speaker #0
And then it kind of ends.
Speaker #1
It completely ends.
Speaker #0
But what I didn't like was like, because the Catholic Church, and especially what the Pope and everyone has said about homosexuals, what they've said about trans and everything, would it not have been so much better to be like Pope Innocent was a trans man? And then it's like now that the Catholic Church is forced to accept it because they've chosen this pope. No disrespect to hermaphrodites, but I felt like that was kind of like on the fence a little bit.
Speaker #1
Now I'll get controversial. Like, did we need that kind of storyline in how a pope is chosen?
Speaker #0
Do you mean the conclaving?
Speaker #1
No, like the hermaphrodite or trans or any like.
Speaker #0
Did that need to even be included?
Speaker #1
It was irrelevant. No, it didn't. Like, didn't need to be there. I was like, are you serious? And then it wasn't really dealt with. I just thought it was so like. come on, like, we don't need that.
Speaker #0
The whole way women are treated in that film and like Isabella Rossi-Lehney plays a fucking blinder as the best nun.
Speaker #1
She's slay,
Speaker #0
isn't she? I always remember Mary Mackley said this amazing thing. She spoke in the Vatican and she said that not letting women be part of, like be priests and cardinals is like having a one-winged bird. And I just think that's a perfect way to describe it. Like having all the women prepare the gnocchi for the cardinals and all the sisters and like, oh, Oh, we couldn't do without our sisters. Fuck off. No, they're no way more than you. And they're still so subservient. So you're right. They could have left the kind of sexual organs of Pope. It didn't need it. It could have dealt more with like, yeah, maybe gender balancing. No,
Speaker #1
I just wanted to know about how you get a new Pope. Because no one's ever, we've never seen that. Like, just stick to it. Don't bring something else into it. And equally, I will say about women in the church, and I haven't thought about it, this is completely off the cuff, but if you're in an organisation that's supposedly about community and, you know, bringing people together and stuff and their rights aren't equal, then why would you want to be in it in the first place?
Speaker #0
Exactly. And then it's all done on like, I'll love you if you're a heterosexual. I'll love you if the man is in charge. I'll love you if.
Speaker #1
And as we have learned recently, one loves one unconditionally and do not try to change behavior of another. Yeah, because it does not work. As I have realized, do not try to change someone. No. Take them as they are. Because they're not going to change, man. No,
Speaker #0
they...
Speaker #1
And they're going to waste your time, girl. That was quite a huge debate. It was a debate with the church. I liked that. Yours is next, Clara. Let's take it off religion and back into something else. Would you like to speak about hermaphrodites?
Speaker #0
No, I'd like to speak about a little tinkerbell herself, Sabrina Carpenter. I feel like we always talk about Tiny Desk on this show, but the year ended with a sparkly wind chime of an episode with Sabrina Carpenter on it. We'll link it in the show notes. She was so good. So Tiny Desk is by NPR. It's a very successful YouTube series. You can watch anyone from like Coldplay to, I think Adele has done it, like loads of big names.
Speaker #1
You're obsessed with Coldplay.
Speaker #0
Oh yeah, I can't stop mentioning them. Sam Smith did an amazing one. There was that one that went viral in December, the one with the rapper Dochi. I don't know if you saw that. Oh, my God. Unbelievable. She did the one before Sabrina Carpenter. It's like a little live show at this tiny desk and there's an audience in the background that you never see. But Sabrina Carpenter was amazing. She plays the chimes or like the ding-a-ling with her tush. It was great.
Speaker #1
Question. What do you think about this whole thing about her not singing in her concerts?
Speaker #0
I haven't seen that.
Speaker #1
It's a huge thing.
Speaker #0
So she's miming a live record, though, it must be. Yeah. It's not like the Britney miming where it's like, that's just a CD. As in,
Speaker #1
like, if you look at her, there's so much footage and I love her. I'm like one of her number one fans. But someone called her out being like, you're not singing on your tour. And she's doing date after date, like she's doing so many dates.
Speaker #0
Oh, Sabrina.
Speaker #1
I know there's all this footage, but then whoever said it, she clapped back. and was like, I'm going to get my audio guy to turn down such and such or whatever.
Speaker #0
Come on. Yeah. Because that's what Beyonce got in trouble with at Obama's inauguration. She sang.
Speaker #1
She sang a pre-recorded, I think you told me that originally.
Speaker #0
She mimed a live recording. And she clapped back and said, everybody does this. This is way more common than you think. It was the same, she did the Super Bowl like a week later or something. So I think that had something to do with it. It was the orchestra that ratted her out.
Speaker #1
What do you mean? They went and told on her?
Speaker #0
they were there when she was rehearsing and leaked it.
Speaker #1
Is it weird? I think anyone in an orchestra seems really lovely.
Speaker #0
I know.
Speaker #1
What a little wrath.
Speaker #0
Then it's like, did Beyonce piss them off?
Speaker #1
Oh, probably. We do need to discuss like the whole Beyonce and stuff. I know. Eventually. That's next, another episode. But I'm just saying we need to get into it.
Speaker #0
We do.
Speaker #1
Sure, this isn't about that. No,
Speaker #0
sorry.
Speaker #1
So just something to think about on Sapcarp, even though I adore her. I'm not saying anything. My other one that I watched on Netflix was Missing You. It is the same people who did Fool Me Once with Michelle Keegan. You murdered my husband. Yeah. It's the same person as Fool Me Once who's Harlan Coben. He has a 14 book deal with Netflix.
Speaker #0
14? Who picks that number?
Speaker #1
I don't know. But this Missing You one was number 10. Fool Me Once was obviously number nine. And they're very similar in... the way they pan out style it's quite ridiculous but it's good TV like for January your man the guy in it from Top Boy he's so hot really he plays the fiance who went missing just left 11 years ago and they're sort of picking it up 11 years ago the way the twists and turns are so like some of it's so funny and the Guardian wrote this gasp he's saying You won't remember a thing about it 10 minutes later, which is so it. Like, I can't even remember what happened. But it's a six parter. It's quick. It's like thrillery. You're a bit like, are they evil or are they good? I'd highly recommend it. It's not too scary.
Speaker #0
I heard it was like the premise was her partner goes missing, but it's not like a missing person because the closets are empty. And then she matches with him like 11 years later on a dating app. Yeah. Like we always say, girlies, the ghosts always come back to haunt you. Anytime you get ghosted, they always come back to haunt you.
Speaker #1
They so. Something happened to me recently that the ghost did come back to haunt. Well, that wasn't really a ghost, but it always come back. It did. I'm waiting for one more and then I'll believe your theory.
Speaker #0
Just need one little spooky ghost, one little Casper to come back.
Speaker #1
One asshole. And I'd recommend it. The guy in Top Boy is so hot. He is. gorgeous. I was googling who he's married to and stuff and it's just like doesn't add up.
Speaker #0
That is not me.
Speaker #1
But I never finished, I never finished Top Boy. I had like three episodes left with Barry Keoghan entered into it and scared me. So if anyone's listening, should I proceed alone? Because I was watching it. I was watching it with my boyfriend at the time and I got too scared then and we just had to stop. But there's three episodes left and this was over a year ago and I feel like I need to finish it. But like... James won't watch it with me.
Speaker #0
Arnie?
Speaker #1
I think I need another human.
Speaker #0
A human, not a dog. Okay.
Speaker #1
Yeah, who would just watch this? It needs to be a guy as well.
Speaker #0
Okay. Well, invitation's open.
Speaker #1
Or can I watch it alone? I'm not too sure. Anyway, Missing You on Netflix is like really good thriller garbage.
Speaker #0
Right. Yeah, I've heard loads of people talking about it. Sounds like a perfect January viewing.
Speaker #1
Yeah, absolutely. Gazzer, back to you.
Speaker #0
This tete-a-tete is fiery. I know you're not watching it. But Traitors is back for season three. Oh,
Speaker #1
yes.
Speaker #0
I am currently watching it all up to date. I'm so obsessed with Claudia Winkerman. I just am in awe of her every outfit, her hair care, her eyeliner. Like, it's just she's such prowess and just an incredible host. Takes it so seriously and really gets into it. Like, she's really part of the show. Boss. I must say, just from a general point of view, this season is so not as good as last year. Like it's very well, I'm just finding the cast is very bitchy. They take everything really like personally. Now, this is from a website called the tab dot com, but it was going around on TikTok. When the producers were recruiting for season three, one of them discovered. So it's run by this company called Studio Lambert. Producers discovered that there was this massive plot by the applicants to all work together and use code language to win the game. So even when people get eliminated, they would all split the cash money. Or the prize money. So they found it. It was all these chats and they found them in communications online. So they had to get rid of their A team. And this cast definitely seems like a B team. There's a lot of tears and it's like... Guys, no one's actually getting like really murdered. And don't get me wrong, like I'm watching every single episode and I love the show and the format's amazing. But the problem is with the traitors, more broadly speaking with all the series, only the dumb survive because the traitors. want to keep the dum-dums in. So they get rid of the big personalities and the characters because they want the innocent kind of people, the deer in the headlights to stay because they're more gullible and more malleable. So this year, unfortunately, the traders haven't been as strong as they were last year. Like the last year, they were ruthless and they had strategies. This year, it's just a bit like, you might've seen her online, Linda, the 70-year-old retired opera singer, who she's all over the love of Huns Instagram. And like her acting is so bad and she'd be like, what? And there's a fully clip of like Claudia going traitors and Linda just looks at Claudia. It's like, oh, my God. Yeah. And there's just they picked like a lot of the same characters. So there's like there was I counted five men, white men with brown hair, with all the same. You could interchange them all. They're all the exact same, same pettiness. Yeah. Not following gut feelings. So. I'm just a bit disappointed by this series, but like still watch it. There's an Irish girl in it and she wears the craziest outfits I've ever seen. But like respect. It's like I don't even know where you would shop for those things. But she had a real hard time of it. So I can't wait for her now to do all the press about it and see what it was really like. It's like an Irish girly in there.
Speaker #1
But is it on three times a week?
Speaker #0
Yeah, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, BBC. And then they do this uncloaked show afterwards, which. It's so cool. They like record it like a live podcast. I give it, say if you ever watch podcasts on YouTube, but it goes out as a TV show and then a longer version goes out as a podcast.
Speaker #1
I'd love to get into it, but I just find, you know, when something's on live three times a week.
Speaker #0
It's a big commitment.
Speaker #1
It's another love island. Yeah. Which I haven't managed. We'll talk about that later.
Speaker #0
But if you do go back, season two is so much better. I wouldn't, I wouldn't start with this season.
Speaker #1
I saw a clip though is there like a celebrity one in the States yeah they're talking about doing a celebrity one in the UK
Speaker #0
Gemma Collins apparently rumoured down down
Speaker #1
Zac Efron's brother is on the American one yeah the American ones they use like C-list D-list celebs and I saw a clip and they were like yeah but your brother's a shit actor or something like that and there's like a housewife in it yeah it looks it looks pretty good yeah I think they've revived some careers by going on to that and I suppose with the reality TV show people
Speaker #0
They know how the format works, whereas like this trailer, so you get like just normal people. And there's a there's a greatness in that because there's like an innocence. But I suppose it adds another dimension when you have people, you know, how the format of reality TV and how to act up for the camera. So they're good in their own ways. But yeah,
Speaker #1
I'd love to get into it.
Speaker #0
Season two, honestly, will blow your socks off. You'll be screaming at the telly and you can watch it in your own time. You and James should definitely watch that, actually.
Speaker #1
Is this your one that Harry won?
Speaker #0
Oh, you know, the winner. But still, it's great. It's such a good season. Great pace, great momentum, great portrayals. It's good.
Speaker #1
Roger that. God, there's so much content.
Speaker #0
All right, what you got next?
Speaker #1
Top line, just something you should listen to is Katie Price on Lutheroo's podcast. Because I've seen stuff about it recently and it's just like, there's a lot going on. So much surgery, all this and all that. This gal is so candid. It is such an enjoyable lesson. I listened to it on the way to the airport the other day. She's so like transparent. She knows what she's doing. Sometimes it's just outrageous, but it's a really good lesson. At one point she said something very profound. She said, I wish I knew what I knew now to go back, which I think we all do, don't we?
Speaker #0
Like, what would you tell your younger self?
Speaker #1
Yeah. Or, you know, dump him.
Speaker #0
Yeah, dump him. Who, Louis Theroux, I must give his pod a listen.
Speaker #1
Oh, it's good.
Speaker #0
Who does he have coming up that, were we and you talking about it?
Speaker #1
He has like Nick Curious.
Speaker #0
Yes, was that it?
Speaker #1
Tennis player, it's a good listen. He had Paul Meskell. He had Barry Keoghan, I didn't listen to that one. It's good because I love him.
Speaker #0
He is good. Armie Hammer, that's who it is.
Speaker #1
That's who it is. When's that?
Speaker #0
It's just coming up in season four.
Speaker #1
That will be wild because he'll be like, do you mind explaining to me what happened? Yeah. Because he's always like, I'm out of the loop.
Speaker #0
So it's coming out weekly from the 14th of Jan. So it must be in his roster.
Speaker #1
Oh, my God. That's great news.
Speaker #0
Like, why do you like eating women's bones? Like, why do you eat a raw deer heart? Do you still eat people?
Speaker #1
That's just a quick one that I think was good. Dazzer, back to you.
Speaker #0
I've watched a lot of the Oscar films. So I'm just going to do a quick micro review. So watch Anora, which is a modern day pretty woman with a Russian oligarch twist. Oh. Your one who stars in it as Anora is Mikey Madison. Watch it for her, is what I would say. People said it's a comedy. Again, like Conclave, not what I thought. I wouldn't call that a comedy. It's definitely an hour too long, but she has amazing hair that has glitter going all the way through it. And I need to know. how she did that because that would just be so fun for like a festival. It's like glitter strands.
Speaker #1
Oh, I know how to do that. Oh my God.
Speaker #0
Okay, let's.
Speaker #1
Sorry, not that I know how to do it. You can get it done in hair salons. It's a. I used to work with a girl who did it.
Speaker #0
Oh, fun. That'd be great. Yeah. But yeah, somewhat overhyped for me. I hate to say. A Real Pain starring, it's written by Jesse Eisenberg and stars himself and Ciarán Culkin, you know, Macaulay Culkin's brother. Yeah. They're cousins who go on like a good. a holocaust tour around Poland to kind of reconnect with their roots after their granny passes away. It's one of those movies that is like real character performances on both of them. I feel like Jesse Eisenberg is, he always plays the same character. It's this kind of like neurotic, jumpy, maybe not New Yorker, but like American. And he does play into that this time, but he's really good. I thought...
Speaker #1
He's not very diverse,
Speaker #0
obviously. No, but... out of all the times I've seen him play these characters I think this is the softest and it's actually really nice because I think Kieran Culkin is getting all the attention and Oscar buzz but actually I think Jesse Osborne does a great job and all the music is by Chopin you know the Polish pianist of course yeah then we've gone through all the pettiness the petty priests of Conclave and then gotta finish it on the substance Demi Moore it yeah this is what I'm dying to hear is incredible I must say, I didn't enjoy it for like half of it because of all the body horror and I'm not good at that. And it's very visceral. It's almost like ASMR the way they use like sound and visuals, like when people are eating and the way they use food.
Speaker #1
Yeah, that's what I saw.
Speaker #0
And then there's a lot of needles. So if you're not good with needles, it's not a good one. But it's so incredible and it takes an idea of like, you know, women and beauty standards. And it makes it a bit like meta. It makes it a bit abstract. Like there's very little people in it. There's very little conversation in it. And then it's all about like how oppressed women are by these beauty standards. And then you either you don't do anything and you stay home and rot or you do do something and then you do too much and then you look like a monster. And then the whole thing about the substance is like when you take the drug, there's the you you want to be and you wish you were and the you who you are now. But you you're the same person, but you're two different people.
Speaker #1
It looks really visceral that you've completely captivated me there.
Speaker #0
Yeah, it just it really goes into how you can't be who you were when you were younger because you are who you are now. And how do you bridge that gap? And do you bridge it with, well, like there's an ejection, the substance, but like it's a nod to like Botox or fillers or Ozempic, that kind of stuff. So it's Demi Moore is fantastic in it. And yeah,
Speaker #1
she'll definitely get something when she in a word.
Speaker #0
The girl who plays the other Demi Moore. is oh my god her name she's in four weddings and funeral andy mcdowell yeah it's andy mcdowell's daughter sorry yeah she's been in a good few things she um she's been like once upon a time in hollywood i must say though like in the credits her tush should have gotten a credit because there is a lot of tush action it's just so much zooming in on i wonder what decision maybe i just noticed it too much or something but there was like so much zoom ins and zoom outs is it good it's a stunning tush but like oh yeah
Speaker #1
I suspect.
Speaker #0
It was like there was it just really featured a lot. But it's worth the gore. It's worth the horror. It takes big swings, but I think it kind of pays off. Like it's a real thinker. Like I had to mainline like two episodes of Gavin and Stacey to calm down and not have nightmares. Oh,
Speaker #1
Jesus. OK. My last few ones are just I Have to Get on Love Island, which I haven't gotten onto yet. And I feel really left behind. Curtis is in it.
Speaker #0
His hair. What a shit lid. Yeah,
Speaker #1
I'm really excited about that. Then also Alan and the Amanda Spanish job is coming back. I love those two together. I will be watching that at the end of Jan. And then also the Boyzone documentary with Lou Walsh is in it. And it looks so scandalous.
Speaker #0
How hasn't he been cancelled yet? It's amazing. If he survived Big Brother.
Speaker #1
It looks proper scandalous.
Speaker #0
Yeah, it's funny. That was great. What a sum up.
Speaker #1
It feels like it's taken my whole like December into convo. Yes. December, January. Yes.
Speaker #0
it does and there's still there's other things I want to see Mufasa definitely want to see starring Blue Ivy and Kneecap which is getting loads of Oscar buzz about that Irish movie yeah I need to watch that my dad watched it and he said it's amazing I was like okay well I'll see TK loving it I think it's nice to distract yourself with all this like fantastic pop culture content to distract us from Puff Daddy and all that Justin Baldoni Blake Lively barrel of shit that I couldn't care less about because it's so confusing.
Speaker #1
It is nice to remove yourself from the garbage.
Speaker #0
Like that mudslinging contest. I'm suing you for 400 million. Like this means nothing anymore. Can everyone, I just, people wish people would just give up. It's so ridiculous.
Speaker #1
Yeah, what's the point?
Speaker #0
What is the point? And it's like, they're just throwing shit at each other and it's just so boring.
Speaker #1
It's a willy measuring contest.
Speaker #0
Oh, it is. So luckily we have all this. beautiful content to distract ourselves hopefully I have some Love Island updates for you next week
Speaker #1
I need to get on board it's like homework for me I feel really out of the loop loads of stuff's already happened yeah well thank you so much for listening to us we are so happy to be back yeehaw you can follow us on Instagram at Soph underscore Lions and at
Speaker #0
Clasicabana we hope you have a blessed week we're so happy to be back in your ears Great tidings, gentle January vibes to you and let your soul soar. Bye.
Speaker #1
That was lovely.

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