Ila, an occupational therapist and co-founder of Zeno Mountain Farm, shares what it takes to build a community in Vermont where people with and without disabilities live, work, and create together. She also dives into the films Zeno makes—not just about disability, but about real stories and people—showing why representation in culture matters. This episode is about the messy, joyful work of inclusion and the friendships that make it real.

I'm Léa Hirschfeld, and this is Out of Sync: exploring life through disability, one story at a time.

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