"Independent magazines are more like a culture than a market." Urs Spindler and Malte Brenneisen are the co-organisers of Indiecon, the co-editors of Gentle Rain magazine, and the co-founders of Die Brueder, the creative agency based in Hamburg and Berlin. For this final episode from Indiecon 2017, I spoke to them about the challenges faced by independent magazine makers today, and heard their thoughts as both industry commentators and individual creators.

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