"There are no bosses..." New Internationalist launched in 1973 to highlight the global inequalities that emerged as countries across the global south began to make their way in a post-colonial world. In the 1980s it adopted a non-hierarchical co-operative structure, and in 2017 it issued a community share offer, giving its readers the opportunity to buy a piece of the organisation. Buoyed by the success of its sale to its readers, last year the magazine embarked on the first major redesign in its history, relaunching last summer as a bimonthly magazine with a fresh and impactful new look. In this conversation, production editor Kelsi Farrington and co-editor Yohann Koshy explain the thinking behind last year's changes, the sometimes painful process of guiding a non-hierarchical organisation through such major transformation, and why they're doubling down on their coverage of human rights, international politics and social and environmental justice.

Hosted on Ausha. See ausha.co/privacy-policy for more information.