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  hello ladies and gentlemen and welcome to movie goodness here on the kb radio network this is the show where we examine life through cinema and it is upon us ladies and gentlemen doomsday doomsday is at the time of this recording a little over a month away the biggest film in mcu history and and that may seem like uh a grandioso decoration oh this is the biggest film in history i mean look you got to understand what's all at stake here as far as the mcu is concerned as far as a franchise is concerned as far as a studio Thank you. is concerned nothing is bigger than this film shared universes are a tricky thing how i know it's tricky because so far the only franchise to pull it off is marvel is the mcu dc has tried it multiple times and crashed and burned the universal monster movies they tried it couldn't even get out The gate. It's just time after time, everybody has tried to emulate what Marvel has done over the past 20 years. And nobody can crack the code. Well, I say 20. Actually, you got to go back almost 30. You got to go back to the year 2000, where this all really began, because Marvel gave us a watch list. They gave us 50. 15 films to watch to prepare for avengers doomsday 15 films one of those films is x-men from the year 2000 and immediately when i saw the list because it's the first one on the list i'm like really it's x-men and so i know x-men is a part of this film the original cast is a part of this film and i never suspected that that would be tied in to the mcu proper i you know i thought they would probably glaze over that yeah they kind of squeezed in deadpool and wolverine to kind of link it all together that was nice and cute and all but never thought in a million years that it would be premium viewing and order to catch up in order to understand what is going on in the next movie caught me off guard i know it caught a lot of people off guard but i have faith in marvel i do even though this last phase this last saga really uh the multiverse saga has not been the greatest in the marvel cinematic universe but there have been a couple of films in there Even a couple of TV shows linked in there where, okay, I like this, but overall, not so much. The purpose of this show, the purpose of this particular episode of Movie Goodness is to prepare, is to go over this watch list and maybe, possibly, find some links that will tie in to Avengers Doomsday. I didn't get excited for Doomsday until maybe a week ago, to be 100% honest with you. Of course I was going to see it regardless, but as far as excitement, as far as that feeling that I got like going to see Infinity War or Endgame, I didn't have that for this. But it's starting to get there. It's still not up to that level. but it's starting to get there because I'm starting to see the vision. You know, I'm starting to see what is possible in this film and what it can lead to going forward in the MCU. And so today, we're going to go over all of those films, all 15 movies that Marvel told us to watch before we go sit down to watch Avengers. doomsday and so let's not tally there's a lot to go over so let's start off with the first film on that list And like I mentioned, it is none other than the first attempt to make an ensemble superhero film. And it is in the year 2000 that this film came out. And it is X-Men. X-Men being my personal favorite superhero group of all time. Love the X-Men. Going back to the first comic I ever picked up and read was a Captain America comic. that wolverine was teaming up with captain america captain america was in uh canada searching for somebody i forgot what it was but he linked up with wolverine liked wolverine and from there i started getting in with the x-men and then around that time you had the animated series came out a few years after that and then the arcade game came out around that time as well it was it was just all x-men early 90s you know late 80s early 90s and it was off and running and then in the year 2000 we actually got a live action x-men film and i don't know if you're old enough to remember all of you out there you remember wizard the wizard magazine where or... they will have your fan casting for certain superhero movies that would never happen at least now not around that time now they happen all all the time but back then they would do fan casting and they did a fan casting for x-men if they ever made an x-men movie and everybody universally agreed that if you were going to cast charles xavier professor x himself it could be no another than john luke picard it can be none other than sir patrick stewart who uh unfortunately uh just what a week ago a couple of weeks ago the time of this recording passed away and he is going to appear in avengers doomsday that will be his final performance uh captured on film and man what what a treasure bro we we lost the a good one with with patrick stewart but everybody agreed that patrick stewart should pay charles xavier even though in the comics charles xavier is not british he's he's from new york he's from upstate new york so i it was always uh uh a little jarring for me but i didn't care because it was Patrick Stewart and he nailed it. Sir Ian McCollin Cast as Magneto, James Marston as Cyclops, Rebecca Romijn as Mystique. You had in his first, I believe his first film role, Hugh Jackman cast as Wolverine. He wasn't initially cast. It was Doug Ray Scott who was cast as Wolverine. But at the time, he was filming Mission Impossible 2. He was the villain in that film. it went over schedule and all this here so he couldn't contractually he couldn't uh do the role so hugh jackman got the role and the rest as they say is history he's still playing it to this day hugh jackman man uh such an ensemble cast the film was directed by brian singer and the film establish the conflict between humanity and mutants and it also sets the scenery and the philosophy of the Xavier School for Gifted Youngsters at the time, a place where you could get an education and it was a place of inclusion. And going by the trailers for Avengers Doomsday, a lot of the action will take place in, or at least at that school, or what's left of it, you know? So it's... it's going to play a major part in the film which is pretty awesome because if you really look deep dig deep that the school and charles xavier's school there is has always been a place of hope that was a symbol of hope throughout marvel comics you know especially for the mutants that's your place of refuge that is your sanctuary for mutants and we flash forward to doomsday here and we see it in ruins we see it devastated we see that this is where doomsday is going to resurrect uh sentinels you know you get that epic shot of scott summers cyclops uh uh with his omega bean taking off to his uh visor and hitting that omega uh omega bean to take out uh sitting those i'm assuming what a shot that shot there that shot out of everything they've released about doomsday that is the one shot that is seared in my brain i cannot wait to see this in the theater unfortunately not in imax because uh doom 3 comes out the exact same day and they secured the uh imax screens but regardless i don't care whatever screen is available i'm gonna be there to watch this as far as its connection to avengers doomsday uh as far as rewatching it. I think this is more helpful if you're... you know looking for an introduction to the x-men it's kind of a reminder of their abilities and you know the extension of their powers you know so i don't i don't think is any storyline that took place in x-men that is essential to avengers doomsday but you know i could be wrong and i wanted to say to start off the show i'll say it now uh I re-watched all of these movies, all 15 of these films. That don't mean you don't watch them. You know, go back to watch them. Maybe you'll find something that will link it to Doomsday. I'm, you know, I tried in my own mind to kind of piece together some things from the films that may play an essential part to Avengers Doomsday. I'm not good at that. So. I can only give you my theories. I don't have any inside sources. I could just go by what I think might link up to the movie. As far as X-Men is concerned, I don't think any of that links up. I think it's more to introduce you to the characters and know exactly what they're all about. And so with that being said, let's move on to our second film on the list. And that is X2. X-Men United. Yes, the sequel to X-Men. This one came out in 2003. And remember when I said the continuity was all over the place? They were hit and miss, hit and miss. Well, this one was a hit with me. This film really made me believe that Marvel can exist, that DC can do movies, that comic book films can be made. and made properly this x-men film is my second favorite x-men live action film that i've seen uh the first one was days of future past which isn't on this list but uh this this was just phenomenal to me i loved every minute of it and re-watching it i got that same feeling you know I got the same feeling that I got in 2003. Honestly, I'm a little unsure on the significance of this film as far as it being connected to Avengers Doomsday. I don't see where it connects. But other than the fact that Nightcrawler is introduced in this film, and we know that Nightcrawler is in Doomsday. So maybe that's why. And Adam Cummings is reprising the role. as Nightcrawler in Doomsday. So that's pretty cool as well. But I don't see any real connection there. I mean, the film, it deepens the understanding in the way mutant powers are used and perceived. In one of the most famous scenes, we see Iceman, Bobby Drake, use his powers to adjust the beer temperature for Wolverine. you know and so we get little things like that the film also further explore the powers of characters like mystique and charles xavier you know unveiling how powerful they really are and that's why that's why this film hit harder than a vast majority of these x-men films but one of the major takeaways from x2 was gene gray franca jensen as gene gray As we got a sneak peek of the Phoenix Force, her Phoenix powers at the end of this film, where she quote-unquote perished, saving the rest of the X-Men, setting it up. for a third film that was so bad and uh uh the last stand was so bad man i i just i almost walked out of that movie and that's how bad that movie was because they tried to blend two different comic stories with it you know and it didn't work out the the mutant cure and the phoenix force the Being in. phoenix saga and that is the most impossible thing to do why would you try those are two separate issues it made no sense whatever but anyways uh x2 um the focus of x2 the main points i guess you could say is the tension between humans and mutants but this time magneto isn't the quote-unquote villain per se he is teaming up with the x-men to take on general uh striker who is the villain that he despises mutants, but he uses them for his favor, you know, but he cannot stand mutants. And in spite of the fact that his son is a mutant, which adds to the reason why he hates mutants, but that's neither here nor there, we get Xavier and Magneto's friendship, which is further exploited, and I think that's probably the main point of... of this linking to doomsday because we see that they are still together in the trailer and it's going to carry on into that film but other than that the film finished with a hopeful tone with uh the x-men uh delivering a message to the government about mutants and their perception of mutants uh and that's about it you know so i don't know what else could be linked to doomsday other than the friendship between charles and eric but you know there's probably something else there we'll see we'll see uh uh on december the 18th and so we move on to the third film on our list and it is captain america the first avenger this is chris evans first go around wielding the shield and this film came out in 2011 and there's a lot here there's a lot here because reading into that trailer reading into how they introduced steve rogers in that trailer i think plays a big part in this particular film uh he's not captain america steve rogers is not Captain America because... falcon is captain america now so it's it's a different steve rogers is this the same steve steve rogers uh in the trailers that we saw i'm i'm a little skeptical i think marvel is swerving us in those trailers i don't think that's steve rogers i really don't i think that's loki but that's just my little conspiracy brain but uh it's a lot There's a reason why he's called Steve Rogers and not Captain, other than the fact that, yes, he gave the shield to Falcon. And I'm calling him Falcon because I'm blanking on his name. But Captain America, the first Avenger, we get introduced not only to Steve Rogers, we get introduced to Peggy Carter, Bucky Barnes. and in the case of Peggy Carter, it's much more than... steve's love interest here she becomes a critical character in the mcu let's not forget she had her own show at one time agent carter and you know we saw her as captain america or what she's where she captain uh britain uh i can't remember which one but she she dawned the shield and uh dr strange in the multiverse of madness which is also on this list but that's further down and as well as the what if animated series on disney plus so she plays a big role throughout the mcu she was captain carter that's what that's that was the moniker captain carter but anyways uh but more importantly she symbolizes the life steve should have had you know and that was displayed at the end of avengers endgame when he went back to be with her and stayed which is understandable because, boy, Haley Atwell. Woo beautiful woman and we also have bucky barnes and we already know how essential bucky is to steve that's his best friend that's his trusted partner and he was lost this is the movie where he presumed uh presumably died in when he fell off the train in the middle of the film but we find out later on that he was captured by hydra and turned into the winter soldier and whatnot Since then, he's been finding and rescuing Bucky. It's become a central arc in Captain America's trilogy of films. Steve, he successfully rescued him, and decades later, Bucky became the leader of the Thunderbolts, which is also on this list. But as far as linking up to Doomsday, there's a lot. There's a lot that you can link to Doomsday in this film. there's peggy there's steve there's bucky so they all of them are in doomsday so that's that you have uh steve and peggy uh mostly steve who stayed in the past and according to the trailer uh not spoiling anything here according to the trailer they have a child together so that's new that's different and nobody is talking about this child and i don't know who the child is I don't know how much of a role that child plays, but obviously that throws off the timeline because that child isn't supposed to be here. So there's that, you know, Bucky leading the Thunderbolts who are going up against Dr. Doom and all this here. There's a lot to link up here. So, yes, Captain America, the first Avenger, plays a huge role in. avengers doomsday and so we move on to our fourth film on the list and it is none other than the avengers yes the 2012 first crossover film in this franchise the film that i guess you could say started it all this is where it all began uh we see these six heroes join forces against a villain that seems unbeatable and they learn how to overcome their differences and work together in this film you have steve rogers tony stark thor bruce banner uh clint burton uh natasha romanoff or you may know them all by captain america iron man thor uh hulk hawkeye and black Whittle. This is the original six Avengers at the start of this group. that makes up hundreds of heroes that would gather by the end of Endgame. But it all started with them when they band together to take down Loki and the, what are they, the Chikari? I think that's who they are. I forgot who they are. But anyways, I just watched it. It's the crazy part. But yeah, they teamed up together to take down Loki, who is also... in Doomsday. But the main takeaway I got from watching The Avengers was how the rest of the MCU was basically spawned off from this film. The big arc, the giant arc that was paid off in Endgame. Because it all started here. When Steve tells Tony that the only thing... you fight for is yourself you know you're not the guy to make a sacrifice to lay down on the wire for so that the other guy can crawl over you and you know so that that paid off at the end you know when he made the ultimate sacrifice you know but tony he responded by you know everything's special about you is in a bottle. And that traveled throughout the... the rest of the mcu until we got to end game when they finally buried the hatchet so to speak and so all the events that took place at up to this point really dictated the rest of the mcu because them taking down the shikari is the reason why thanos felt he needed to do what he had to do because it pissed them off because he sent them down there to take over earth And that's when he got the bright idea. Okay, I'll do it myself. You know, get the Infinity Stones and so on and so forth. And the rest, as they say, is history, you know, which led to where we are now. And so. no good deed goes unpunished that's basically the gist of what has taken place uh uh for the avengers uh everything has a cost and as far as direct links to doomsday i couldn't find anything directly linking it to doomsday other than the fact that the team reluctantly got together It wasn't like they were all on board to get together and face this threat, you know, as a team. They had to really do it kicking and screaming, which I'm assuming that's going to be the same trope that we're going to have in this film. So I don't know. I don't know. And then you have the the Tony Stark dying factor and Doomsday looking like Tony Stark or. Is he a variant of Tony Stark? Is he, what is he? You know, so there's a lot to speculate about. And so I don't have any definitive clear cut connection to Doomsday from this film, other than the team is going to get together and try to take down this new threat, this Thanos level threat, mind you. So yes, that is our fourth film on the list. fifth film on the list is the 2018 juggernaut avengers infinity war i'ma i'ma i'ma go out and tell you right now right this is just my my thing infinity war is the best out of the avengers film i liked in game in game was was amazing emotional it was exciting crowd pleasing all of that I have no qualms with that film. But as far as a complete film, Infinity War is the best out of them all. Infinity War did something that I didn't think was possible. I didn't think they could pull off so many characters with so much story into one movie. and nailed it they really nailed it this movie was phenomenal the russo brothers returned to direct this film after directing the uh captain america trilogy well not the first one but uh winter soldier and civil war uh they returned to direct this and man as well as doomsday coming up But they... they really understood the assignment here you know i would never forget i would never forget walking into that theater and didn't didn't know what i signed up for i did not know we was going to get this emotionally draining film from a comic book movie everybody in that theater a packed house everybody in that theater was dead silence at the end of that sound just you can hear a pin drop when the credits start to roll when thanos was smiling at the end and it fade to black dead silence until they flashed uh uh avengers endgame the title and the avengers uh name dusted and they said Thanos will return everybody in unison screamed out no I just couldn't believe it I could not believe I remember reading the infinity uh saga comics and being just blown away by the fact that Thanos won you know he he he blinked out half of the universe you know I didn't think they were going to do it in the film. I honestly thought that it was going to end on a happy-go-lucky note. And, oh, they did it. When Bucky dusted, when T'Challa dusted, when all of the Guardians dusted, and, my God, when Peter Parker dusted. It just was a gut punch. It was a gut punch to sit there and watch Vision die twice. He died twice. Do you hear what I'm saying? It was bananas. That movie was bananas. Thor entering the fight in Wakanda. You know, just moments, bro. Those moments like that was fire. Tony Stark taking on Thanos hand to hand, man to man, you know. and actually drawing blood from Thanos, that's where Tony Stark shot up to another level with me as far as a superhero in the MCU. Because he had already took on two super soldiers at the same time in Infinity War when he fought Bucky and Steve. At the same time, he was holding his own. Now, granted, he was fueled by anger, but he took them on. Let's not forget that Tony Stark is a normal mortal man yes he has the iron man suit you know the ultimate equalizer but he is a normal man and he took on two super soldiers at the same time and then to swing around and take on a titan and draw blood from him he was what more could i say he vandals had fought the hulk at early part of this film and turned the hulk into a a little girl he beat him he beat him into submission to the point he didn't want to come out anymore and didn't didn't drop a bead of sweat but tony stark got blood out of him and he made him bleed and so i i took tony stark will forever be on my mount rushmore of superheroes from that moment on and i was like man it's only stark is the bad and then what he did in endgame my god but we'll go over that in one quick second uh but uh as far as his links to doomsday uh i don't i the only thing i can come up with is the fact that half the universe got dusted right so with half the universe being dusted and then that being reversed the you very next movie that we're about to go over that's what triggered dr doom you know because in the trailer he says you all live privileged lives y'all it's like y'all not supposed to be here you're living a life that you're not supposed to be living right now and and he's dealing with lost you know because doom lost his family and he can't get them back and now you got you lost these people and you got them back and And y'all walk around here all happy go lucky. Nah, nah. And so that's the only thing I can think of, why this is linked up to that, but more so in end game, but you can't get in game until, you first watch infinity war. And so that's where my theory lies. So with that being said, our sixth film on the list is of course. Avengers Endgame, which came out in 2019, the very next year, also came out this year, Infinity War Encore, which you can, I guess you might as well count that one too. Well, ultimately, count that one. Just make that one the definitive one because they added some post-credit scenes to it, some additional footage that... without a doubt links up to doomsday because they were shot for doomsday uh but uh yeah this is the fallout of what happened in infinity war uh our heroes go go back in time change things up this is where we get steve staying in the past to return the stones staying with peggy uh peggy of uh the half the universe came from the blip came back from the blip uh and they defeated thanos you know and you get that epic avengers assemble you know that battle there that was epic it was epic when we watched it we being all of us when we watched it back in 2019 this before the world went to poof that when the world really did get blipped by the pandemic the following year but when we watched it I think everybody just loved it. Everybody was gushing over it, rightfully so. because it was a crowd-pleasing, exciting film. You know, a nostalgic ride, going back in time to moments in the MCU that were revisited and all this here. It was fun. But now when you think back, especially if you watch it back, you see so many flaws, you know? Especially in that final battle. It was so many flaws that I saw. at least i was paying attention to i wasn't you know looking for flaws but they just they just stuck out this time and i oh how is how is how is ant-man over here he was just over there you know it's just stupid stuff like that and it just drove me insane but look overall the movie is amazing and then of course the sacrifice at the end going back to uh The line that Steve Rogers told to Tony Stark in The Avengers, you know, that you you you're not the guy to make the sacrifice and only for him to come around and make the sacrifice here. An amazing, an amazing ending to this saga. It's almost the end of a franchise. And it felt like that in a lot of ways, because a lot of the films that come on after this. were lackluster to say the least you know to put it kindly but man you talking about wrapping up a story and uh giving everybody a happy ending man you couldn't you couldn't ask for anything more uh to go over this the the extended footage i guess you could say or the additional scenes that were added for in-game encore in case you don't know in case you didn't see it you got a scene with loki loki he goes to visit uh steve and peggy after their romantic ending at the end of the game or end of the game end of end game and when he said i i can help both of you you know uh uh knowing that loki is a part of the well he's not part of the tba he's actually the god of stories now he's holding the timelines together and we found that out in his series but that show is on the list we're going to go over that in a few actually i think next but uh that was that was a nice touch that's why i'm thinking loki is steve actually you know in all of the trailer footage that we saw but we'll see um the next scene we see uh dr banner Bruce Banner, he's locked up in this bunker, it looks like, after the events of Spider-Man Brand New Day. He locks himself away in a bunker and, you know, closed off so he won't hurt anybody and blah, And we see that Doom, he is there to collect. He's there to collect Avengers. Just like Thanos was collecting Infinity Stones, he's collecting Avengers. And his first... choice his his number one pick was of course the hawk so he collects him and we see the the green little mist or whatever it is that's coming up from the floor indicating that it was doom that snatched up the hawk and so our next scene what was that wait what was the other one i think it something with the TVA. I could be out of order. I think the TVA and they're showing the incursions that's taking place the universe is clashing together that was the other one and then you had the scene with you remember in the original end game at the very end when everybody was sitting around waiting for the post credit scene that we never got we did get some noise at the end of this film and you heard the clinging and it was It was the sound of Tony Stark making his first Iron Man suit in that cave with a bunch of scraps. If you remember that, that was kind of a homage to him. And they twisted it this time around. So now it's not Tony Stark. It was actually Doom making his mask clinging. And they showed Doom putting on. the mass so this one was a no-brainer this one directly links to doomsday you don't have to really cipher through to figure out what, what's the connection. It is there for you. It's laid out pretty plain for you. And that leads us to number seven on our watch list. And it is the first TV show that appears on this list. And it is Loki season one and season two. That is on Disney plus for your viewing pleasure. Loki, Loki was a, good series uh especially that first season the season one was 10 times better than the second season even though the second season had his had his moments but uh season one was so good and tom hiddleston as loki i mean he was born for this just just imagine and he would initially went in to audition for thor for the role of thor and he got the role of loki instead and that was probably the greatest casting decision of all time not to say that he couldn't kill it as thor it would be interesting to see him as thor he would have to put on a couple more pounds there but he he would he would have been an interesting thor but he was born to play loki born to play this character uh we get introduced to the time variant authority the tva uh on this show which we already know plays a big part in doomsday because there are theories out there that doom he seizes control of the tva and that's the reason um he's such a threat because he can move in and out of time periods and uh attack our heroes from any period of time so that that is that is that is disturbing not only that can move different universes and whatnot it's the tva is very essential and so i i think that's the main thing and plus at the end of season two of loki that's when loki becomes the god of stories as i mentioned earlier holding all of the timelines together and so it's it's going to be very interesting because what got loki off of that throne Was it Doom? Because how else is he visiting Steve and Peggy in the past? You know, so he had to leave that throne because the whole the whole crust of it all. He couldn't leave. He could not leave the throne. He had to hold the universes together at all times. So if he's not there, we know that some shenanigans took place. So, yeah, that plays a major. This is... The setup to the TVA and how it all runs plays a major role in Victor Von Doom's plans in Doomsday. So I would imagine this is probably one of the most important stories as far as being connected to Doomsday. And Loki is probably going to be one of the most important characters. They're not talking much about Loki, which tells me that he's playing a bigger part. in the overall story going forward so we'll see man loki is definitely in the front lines against dr doom given you know his new mission of protecting the timelines and uh dr doom being the one basically purging these timelines and and these uh uh heroes and these people that's eventually going to set up battle world and whatnot so we shall see we shall see how big of a role all that plays in the overall story of avengers doomsday moving on to the eighth film on this list and it is sung chi in the legend of the ten rings which was released in 2021 this is an origin story of shang li who is the son of the leader of the ten rings organization This is our... introduction to simon simon lu who is uh sung chi and i'm pretty sure i butchered his name but and i apologize but dustin daniel cretton who directed this film who later went on to direct the juggernaut just from a couple of months ago spider-man brave new day not brave new day brand new day um that's blending two films that have no business around each other but anyway uh this This was probably one of the... better films. Ain't no probably. You can take it all. This was the better film. that has taken place between end game and now this this i've loved sung chi i absolutely love this movie i thought it was one of the better mcu films you know overall i thought i really do feel i still feel that way it is such an exciting watch uh i've watched it multiple times other than the fact that rewatching it for this show but it it has been prime viewing for me since it's been released in uh what five years ago i i have enjoyed this movie so much do i have problems with the end of it yeah i did i didn't like the end of it but you know it didn't take away from the overall film uh real fun watch real fun watch real fun character because i didn't follow sung chi in the comics i knew of him but i didn't follow him in the comics and this was a nice introduction in the ten rings the addition of dad i think that's probably going to play the biggest role in doomsday because it was set up that the ten rings was something you know it was something important going by that uh post-credit scene after this film but we've never got a resolution to that we never got any other mention of the ten rings it's already confirmed you saw him in the trailer sung chi is in avengers doomsday uh so he will be playing a part so they are possibly going to connect the significance of the 10 rings here because we remember at the end of that film in the post-credit scene where there was a signal that the rings were sending off off world so somebody was receiving this signal from the ten rings and we never revisited so now i guess this is how they're going to tie that in with that and kind of answer those questions there uh that's my only connection to doomsday that this film uh has but we shall see we shall see uh with shang chi uh the legend of the ten rings playing a major role in victor von doom's overall plan number nine on the list you have spider-man no way home from the year 2021 this is the quote-unquote spider-man of uh in-game spider-man in-game film that had all of the spider-mans that we know and love tom holland toby mcguire and andrew garfield in one film together i i this is my second well no no no no let me back that up this is my fourth favorite spider-man movie and i know when you hear that you're like man is that low on the list well you didn't hear my other three my other three that's all over this is uh spider-man into the Spider-Verse. spider-man brand new day and spider-man across the spider-verse so it those those are the three so you could understand why this one is the fourth one on my list but i i absolutely love this movie for so many reasons the nostalgic reasons the the way they use the multiverse this is probably the only film yeah i'm throwing it out there the only film in the multiverse saga to actually work within the confines of a multiverse type film because all of the other films did not work and it didn't work this worked this actually worked using your different spider-man bringing in villains from past films and past uh other universes and blending them all together on top of that having steven strange uh casting that spell to do that and then at the end casting the spell So. so everybody can forget who spider-man is or who peter parker is and that was man such an exciting film and william defoe i'm not gonna say redeemed himself as a green goblin because hey like i said about x-men uh it's the same thing for spider-man the toby the first toby mcguire one it was under the confines of the early 2000s i mean you couldn't you can only do so much And William Defoe can only do so much. But I thought he was a really good green goblin. but my god his green goblin in this film is up there with one of the best marvel villains of all time he's up there with the thanos and the killmongers with me but i i still can't believe that that man pulled it off after all these years uh at the age that he was at the time that that film was made and he did the majority of his own stunt you I was impressed mightily by that film for so many reasons. You know, getting the Uncle Ben moment without having Uncle Ben, you know, using Aunt May in that role. Andrew Garfield getting his redemption for breaking Grin Stacy's neck in his film. You know, seeing Tobey Maguire return after all these years. was just a joy man and uh there's rumors there's rumors that toby mcguire will be a part of doomsday or secret wars i don't know which one but as far as it's linking to doomsday once again you're gonna have to deep dive into it my theories is you know dr strange making everybody forget who Peter Parker is, Peter Parker being a part of. the team that stopped the blip or reverse the blip and uh stopping the multiverse from collapsing and all this other good stuff i don't know i i it's a it's a few things here there's a few things here that you can link it to but i i don't i don't know directly how they're going to tie this into doomsday but peter parker will play a role in some shape form of fashion you toby mcguire well not toby mcguire but tom holland hasn't been confirmed for doomsday i don't think he's a part of doomsday and neither has benedict cumberbatch as dr strange he hasn't been confirmed but i think benjamin uh would not be who's benjamin i think dr strange will be the reason why this film is linked and a part of the watch watch list because of what dr strange did because of him and his spells and i'm gonna get into that when we get towards the end of all of this i think him casting that spell to make everybody forget who peter parker is who spider man is is a part of the reason why doom is pissed off so i is something is something there i don't think it's peter parker per se but i think it's more dr strange than it is peter parker we shall see so at this point we're gonna hit the brakes we're gonna uh take a pause and split this episode in two because we have seven more films to go over and so this will conclude part one of our doomsday prep click on over to part two where we can continue our conversation in preparation for avengers doomsday want you all to know that i love you continue to love everyone and until we speak again you all be blessed