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  Welcome back everyone welcome to movie goodness where we examine life through cinema here on the KB radio network I am your host Kevin Reed and this is part two to our road to doomsday doomsday prep part two. If you haven't listened to part one, please go back and listen to it. It's no particular order. There's no spoilers or nothing like that. We may be talking about Marvel, but this isn't a Marvel movie where you're going to get spoiled. You can continue to listen to part two. Just make sure to go back and listen to part one. If you listened to part one, welcome back, everybody. We will continue on on our watch list for doomsday which is dropping in theaters on December the 18th and we are going over the 15 films Marvel Studios told us to watch before we entered the theater to experience their latest Avengers outing. In part one we went over X-Men from the year 2000, X2, X-Men United, Captain America the first Avenger, the Avengers from 2012, as well as Avengers Infinity War and Avengers Endgame, Loki Season 1 and Season 2, Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, and our final film in Part 1 was Spider-Man No Way Home. So now, we're going to jump into Part 2 and round off this list with our final six films. At number 10, we have Black Panther. wakanda forever which came out in 2022 the sequel to the award nominated just juggernaut film that made a billion dollars black panther uh but black panther wakanda forever this movie uh once again directed by ryan coogler this this this film i thought was going to be like the film you know even though going into it you knew all of the plot problems of course it was the glaring glaring omission of the great the late chadwick boseman who passed away right before filming was to begin uh our t'challa our black panther the big decision was do you recast or do you continue on without him marvel decided to continue on without him or their character which in hindsight wasn't a good idea Dude. It wasn't a good idea. I understand in the moment you didn't want to recast. The film should have been pushed back. It should have been pushed back to give us enough time to kind of get over the death of Chad with Bozeman and everything that was going on. We were just coming out of COVID good, and it was just a lot going on. And that movie had a lot going on, and it should have had a proper. Black Panther. Now, what we ended up with was Shuri as Black Panther, which, look, wasn't a deviation from the comics because Shuri did become Black Panther in the comics. I wasn't upset with that. The part I was upset with, the movie turned into a two and a half hour memorial, and it was depressing. That movie was depressing. I didn't want to spend the entire movie mourning. Chadwick Boseman or Mourning T'Challa. Let's push this story along. And the story that they kept pushing along wasn't interesting. Namor, who is one of the most powerful heroes or anti-heroes or mutants in comics, in comics overall, if you don't believe how powerful Namor is, go look him up. Namor is powerful. Very powerful. He went toe-to-toe with the Hulk and won. So you can sleep on Namor if you want. Namor is a beast. But I just could not rock with the story they were telling. It would have been so much more impactful if we would have got T'Challa and a Namor clashing. You know, situation was the situation. you can't change that you can't control that i don't fault marvel for that but i do fault them for rushing this movie into theaters without a real plan and then it turned into setups you know you had the uh julia louise dreifer uh uh dreyfus character being shoehorned in you shoehorned in uh ironheart you know riri williams i don't know why what was the point of her being in it what was the point Thank you. Now, I see where they were trying to go with it, but you didn't really get there with it. It was just too much going on in that film. And as far as the connective tissue from this film to Doomsday, going by the trailers and whatnot, it looks like Namor and the people of Telecon is going to have an impact or influence or play a role in some shape, form, or fashion in this film. I don't know what's going on in the ocean where the water is being drained out the ocean. Is Doom doing that? You know, who is doing that? And that ain't going to do nothing to Namor, but the people of Telecon, yeah, they need to breathe on the water. They need water to breathe. And so I don't know what's going on there. And the fact that the fantastic four and Shiri and, um, um baku all of them are uh in telecon a dried up wasteland of telecon to uh i guess convince namor to come and help or what whatnot i don't know what's going on there but obviously he's a part of the story and it's going to be a major part of the story you know now in the comics namor and sue storm had a little thing going on there was something going on there between those two it's always interesting in comics i know they'll never do it in a movie but sue storm everybody wanted sue storm namor uh doom and uh it was somebody else i think was trying to brush up on on baby girl but it i feel so bad for reed man reed is the smartest man in the universe but can't pick up on the fact that everybody's trying to backdoor him it is the craziest thing you but uh i don't know if they're going to touch it on that but it's going to be a nice homage to the comic books uh to see them on the screen together for the first time coming in at number 11 will be dr strange in the multiverse of madness a movie that had all the hype in the world you have sam remy uh coming in and direct a mcu film Yes, he's done comic book movies. He did the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man films and Darkman, you know, all that. So he's familiar with this. And nobody perfect outside of Scott Derrickson, who did the first Doctor Strange. I don't think anybody else could have directed a Doctor Strange film that would have got me that excited other than Sam Remy. This fits his wheelhouse. Well, it didn't quite get there. I i'm not in a camp of a lot of people who actually loathe this movie i i don't see where it was that bad i've seen worse that but i've also seen better uh but uh it was not a multiverse film like we thought yeah you probably saw uh did luminati and got excited you know and all this other good stuff patrick stewart r.i.p got to see him in his comics accurate a wheelchair or motorized chair thing the yellow big yellow car half of a car looking chair that charles xavier rides in oh that's all that's all fine and good but everything else just did not work uh the fact that you had wanda we're fresh off of wandavision here and all of a sudden you turned her into the villain i didn't have a problem with her being a villain but i needed a reason a real good reason why she posed this big threat the reason they gave didn't quite work you know especially looking uh hindsight 2020 on how things turned out if she would have just chilled out she would have got her family back so it's just it's crazy how they just destroyed that character i mean completely destroyed that character uh but here's the here's the caveat Here's where I think the film links to, well, it's really not a stretch here. You have at the end of the film, of course, Dr. Strange in Dr. Strange fashion, always messing up. We went over his actions in Spider-Man No Way Home, which could be linked to Doomsday. His actions here in this movie, where it was talked about, you know, through all the multiverses that they went to, he messed up. He's the cause of all of their trauma that's going on. And one in particular where he completely destroyed that universe because of his actions. And he doubled down on it. He doubled down on it towards the end of this film. That led to him getting a third eye. That led to him linking up with Charlize Theron's character. I can't think of her name right now. Who are opening up. multiverses and trying to stop incursions which is what doom is doing and so i'm assuming that's how they're going to get involved in this film and i have a theory that we've seen them we've seen them in the promotion material i think in those in those uh uh posters where you see doom and those witches i think one of i think two of them are dr strange you and uh i'm keep blanking on uh charlize theron's character's name but the third one the third one and i'm gonna mark this as uh uh 11b which is another rewatch would be vision quest if you haven't seen vision quest on disney plus this is your spoiler warning which i feel i shouldn't have to give a spoiler warning on a show like this but i'm gonna do it anyway to save myself from being cursed out and so this is your spoiler warning if you haven't watched vision quest and particularly the last episode that final post-credit scene and so what happened in that post-credit scene in vision quest we see the scene where wanda uh collapsed that temple that mountain on top of herself at the end of that film where everybody has presumed for the past what five years since that movie came out that she's dead well she had a mountain fall on and they mentioned it on vision quest multiple times well they showed that scene and then we cut away from that scene and we see part of that mountain start to rise up some of the rubble start to rise up and through the rubble we see a silhouette of dr van doom and he tells wanda to awake i need your power or something to that effect and her eyes opened up so wanda maximoff is alive and she is uh apparently being collected by doom just like bruce banner is collected by doom i think wanda is one of those witches as well And so all of that connects and all of that was because of what took place in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Moving on to number 12 on our list, it is none other than Deadpool and Wolverine. An interesting addition to this watch list. I don't know how this links up. Other than the fact that TVA plays a major role in this film. T the tva will play a role in doomsday as far as the deadpool wolverine of it all i'm not 100 certain that those two characters will be in doomsday it just doesn't fit going by going by what we've seen of the movie so far i don't see how those two characters fit now with that being said we do see gambit we see gambit who is from that's this film that's where we got the debut of channing tatum finally as gambit and he plays a major role in doomsday i guess that's a connective tissue as well and you do have that scene when deadpool was in the tva and he saw that video of thor crying over his body and throughout the film he's asking why is Thor crying and we can't figure out why Thor is crying over him now does this take place take place in Doomsday or does it take place in Secret Wars I don't know or doesn't even take place at all we are talking about deadpool here the most meta of meta characters in all of comics i don't know i don't know if that's even gonna happen but aside for those two things i don't see any other connection to doomsday you know directly and so we'll just mark this one as tbd i i don't know exactly the... how it links up other than the fact that we know for certain gambit is in deadpool i mean in uh doomsday and so uh that's it that's it uh hopefully there's more i will look i'm saying they're not gonna be in the movie but i wouldn't be mad if they are in the movie especially wolverine you know if you're gonna have that era of x-men in this film you gotta have wolverine because it all centered around wolverine and so it would night it would be nice to see them here if they're not in doomsday you can pretty much bet your bottom dollar dollar that they will be in secret wars but hey i like i said i don't have direct knowledge of everything that's taking place in this movie and so we're all speculating at this point. our next film on the watch list preparing for doomsday is captain america brave new world probably the worst film on this entire list you want to talk about hate i hate this movie this movie had so much potential so much potential and completely crapped the bed i mean full-on diarrhea crap the bed this was horrible horrible movie i'm getting mad thinking about it right honestly getting mad uh revisiting it in my mind but so these are the connective tissues to uh dr doom if if there's any um following the the events of brand new world or brave new world sam wilson who is uh the captain america here the old falcon i was blinking on his name earlier uh i think in part one but yeah sam wilson he sets out to reassemble and lead the new team of avengers to face this uh impending multiversal threat if you will and so he's assembling a team together you also have uh the leader when he talked to sam wilson at the end of the film saying them. talking to him about the others the others are coming whatever how would he know that i don't know once again the movie didn't explain none of that we know that he's a super genius and all this here but how did you figure out that a threat from 50 universes away is on their way to destroy i don't know it's just god i hate this movie but it was that little warning there uh from the leader um i think that's about it i think that's all that that connects it to this film i i don't know any i don't know anything else i'll say this much and i'll be honest with you i re-watched all of the films except this one this is the only thing that i did not re-watch i didn't re-watch the entirety of loki season two Thank you. well season one and two i watched certain episodes and then uh uh uh came up with my assessment uh but aside from that i didn't watch one frame of film for this i can't i just cannot bring myself to re-watch this movie but i unfortunately i do remember way too much that i care to remember about this movie but in the event that i did forget something i apologize i just can't bring myself to watch. If you want to go back and watch it, it's on Disney Plus by all means. I actually implore y'all to watch all of these movies before you go and partake in Avengers Doomsday. But yeah, that's all I can remember that would connect this brave new world to Avengers Doomsday. I think the most important thing would be... Sam Wilson, the new Captain America, him assembling a team that basically is running a foul with the other assembled team. which brings us to our 14th film on this list of 15 and that is thunderbolts or the new avengers depending on how you want to title this film which i i quite enjoyed thunderbolts uh thunderbolts was a different type of movie you know we we dealt with a lot of emotional trauma in this film that that I wasn't expecting from a... a thunderbolts movie but it was done so well i i really did i really did enjoy it overall it wasn't great no it wasn't great but it is it's an enjoyable watch it was funny it was fun they had some really good action and you had some real interesting characters here it's kind of it's kind of marvel's answer to dc suicide squad if you will uh but this this was done better than what we saw over at DC. Now, as far as its connective tissue to Avengers doomsday, there, there, there are some things here glaringly, obviously that connects to doomsday. Um, the Thunderbolts becoming the new Avengers, they rebrand themselves, which caused conflict with Sam Wilson. As we talked about a few minutes ago, um, with the avengers name and that triggers this trademark thing at the end of the film and they're beefing so you got two separate teams here uh going into this this upcoming battle that is that is at their doorstep uh you have that post-credit scene in in this film where which was directed by the russo brothers this one scene here where the thunderbolts or the new Avengers, they pick up a distress beacon or something to that effect on the monitors there at the new Avengers tower, and they see a ship come through this little portal. And the ship, as it turns towards the satellite to show it, so the symbol on the side, it is none other than the Fantastic Four ship that has entered Earth orbit. We're coming through that. incursion that has taken place and setting up a larger threat on the horizon and so uh yeah this this is directly linked to doomsday and leads us into our 15th and final film on the watch list it is none other than the fantastic four first steps this this is all doomsday here you uh do uh dr doom comes from this universe these characters are linked together for for years in the comics you know with the fantastic four reed richards and uh victor von doom all of them are linked uh tethered together if you will so you couldn't have a van doom a dr doom without reed richards and the fantastic four being involved so us getting this film we knew at least i did that we were going to get heavy heavy teases to dr doom we didn't get that much in here i mean you got subtle subtle little easter eggs throughout the film but nothing that said oh doom was here or doom was a part of the story and i can somewhat understand it because every previous attempt at making a fantastic four film it was all doom doom doom doom doom and all of them crashed and burned so they tried to do something different they gave us galactus in this film a proper galactus mind you uh but uh yet and still the film wasn't real received i actually enjoyed it for what it was it wasn't the greatest of things but i can stick my chest out and say that it was the best fantastic four film i've seen that i'll tell you it is not even close now as far as it being uh uh linked to avengers doomsday i mean of course the fantastic four uh they're linked um we get a scene where uh uh uh liveria is teased at this world assembly type i don't know un type scene or whatever and we see all of the nations and we see the little name plate for Liberia but nobody sitting there which it was no do and so we know that he is around he just didn't waste his time going to this world assembly of leaders there so that seed was planted there Reed and the rest of the Fantastic Four in order to rid their world of Galactus they open up up a portal and all this other good stuff uh that could play a role in the occur incursions and whatnot that once again angers dr doom um probably caused the death of his family or whatever who knows we know that his family dies and that's what kind of uh uh jolts him into this uh quest for vengeance and whatnot. So that could play a part. But... this was our first our first kind of a kind of of appearance to dr doom in the post-credit scene when uh franklin richards now franklin richards plays a major role in all of this too because franklin richards is probably the most powerful being overall in marvel overall mutant cosmic Magic, sorcery, whatever Nobody can mess with Franklin Richards. He can create a universe, man. He's that powerful. He is so powerful. That's why Galactus wanted him so bad. But we get the post-credits scene where we hear this little phasing in or something to that effect. And Sue goes to investigate. And we see Dr. Doom kneel down. We see him from behind speaking to... franklin and that's where it went off and that was the biggest tie-in right there now in all of the promotional material we don't see franklin we don't see franklin at all or with sue or with reed or with uh johnny or ben we don't see him so i'm assuming that dr doom abducted him collected him like he collected others And that's what's probably going to be the MacGuffin of this film, trying to get back their child. But I think the children plays a major role throughout this movie. Because in the first teasers, those little teaser teasers that they released, I don't know, what, about a year ago? When we saw the Steve Rogers trailer. That's the one when he was holding the baby. We saw the Thor. trailer that's the one when he was talking to love his daughter we saw the x-men trailer now there was no kids involved there that was just a cool trailer but we did get the post-credits scene with franklin richards uh so i think these children are going to play some sort of important role in doom's quest here and we will find out we'll find out going forward but franklin for certain franklin is the gem he is he is the he is the uh uh golden goose if you will uh because he is so powerful so powerful uh he brought sue back to life in this film you know she had died expelled expelling all of her energy to rid uh galactus they'll push him into that portal and so uh we'll see man we'll see how this all plays out i am excited i actually got excited after i finished watching all of these films because it turned into i don't know it just turned into the feeling that i had back in a day when and it's weird to say that because it's only been 20 years but you know watching iron man and linking iron man all the way up to in game and all this other stuff and you know going back and trying to find the little easter eggs or the connective tissues throughout these movies it was fun it was a fun ride uh i recommend it to all of you go back and watch all 15 of these movies in case In case you forgot what they all were, even though I just went over them all, I'm going to list them to you again. You have X-Men, X2, X-Men United, Captain America, The First Avenger, The Avengers, Avengers, Infinity War, Avengers Endgame, Loki Season 1 and 2, Shang-Chi, The Legend of the Ten Rings, Spider-Man, No Way Home, Black Black Panther, Wakanda Forever, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness slash WandaVision, and Deadpool and Wolverine, Captain America Brave New World, Thunderbolts slash the New Avengers, and the Fantastic Four First Steps. I can't wait for Doomsday. Doomsday. is going to be bananas and explaining how doom looks like tony stark is going to be interesting doom being as powerful as he is going to be interesting uh doom collecting his his infinity stones which is basically the children of the mcu is going to be interesting how you're going to integrate all of these characters within the story with that the X-Men, the Fantastic Four, the Avengers, and just a hodgepodge. And how is it going to set up Secret Wars, which is, you think this is going to be bananas. Wait till you see Secret Wars, or hopefully if they do it any justice that is done in the comics. Oh man, this is going to be exciting. So are you excited for Doomsday? Are you excited to see Robert Downey Jr. back? in the MCU. Well, you only have a little bit, what, a little bit longer than a month now on December the 18th when we get Avengers Doomsday. Subscribe to the kbradionetwork.com website where you can be notified of new episodes dropping here on the channel as well as previous episodes you can go back and listen to. Don't forget about... 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