Speaker #0Welcome to True Crime, Authors, and Extraordinary People, the podcast where we bring two passions together. The show that gives new meaning to the old adage, truth is stranger than fiction. And reminding you that there is an extraordinary person in all of us. Here is your host, David McClam. What's going on everybody, welcome to another episode of True Crime, Authors, and Extraordinary People. Of course, I'm your man, David McClam. Hey, if you guys haven't already. Make sure you follow us on all of our social media. One link to a link tree will get you every place you need to go pertaining to the show. And like I always remind you, if you are someone or you know someone who feels like hurting themselves or someone else, please leave this episode and dial 988. It is a suicide prevention hotline. You can call or you can text them. They will get you the help that you need. And just in case no one else has told you this today. Let me be the first to tell you that I do care and I need you to be here. There is nothing worth your life. All right. So before we jump into today's episode, let me just tell you a couple of things. First of all, I'm sorry I've been gone for so long. That was a total mishap on my part. I had to be away because of funerals and stuff, but I did have episodes that was supposed to release and they did not. And I found it out when I got back. So Earlier, you just got a episode that was supposed to be released that was on California prison reform. And then you'll be getting some other ones online that should have been there. This one is an impromptu one. So look for those to follow. Also, after this one, please stick around to the end because I'm going to tell you about someone that's going to come on the show and you don't want to miss it. I usually don't give away who's going to come on the show or... tell you what it's about. But I feel because of what the nature of this is, I need to go ahead and tell you guys so you guys would be sure to tune in. So once again, sorry for the long gap. Totally not planned to do that, but we'll be getting back on track here. All right. So today's episode, not a true crime episode. but something that I feel like I have to talk about because people have reached out to me and asked me what I thought about this being that I am and have been a long time WWE fan. I've been watching wrestling now for probably about 48 years or so. So most of my life since I was a very young kid. And so today we're going to talk about Hulk Hogan. Now, before I do, I'm going to just preface this by saying this off the bat. Some of my opinions are not going to be things that some people like to hear, but I'm going to tell you what I think and what I believe anyway. And I'm not here to drag anybody, but when I'm asked my opinion on things, I'm going to give you my honest opinion and the truth, especially if it's something that has... affected me, which Hulk Hogan has greatly affected me in my life. So I just wanted to say that off the bat. No one has to agree with my opinion, but it is my opinion and my opinion alone. All right. So Hulk Hogan, as we all know, on July 24th, 2025, Hulk Hogan did pass away. If you've been paying attention, his passing has been very controversial, but we will get into some of that later on down the line. Let me read to you what I did write that day or actually the day after that on my Facebook about the death of Hulk Hogan. I said, I'm sure some will not agree with my opinion on this one. However, I am used to it being a true crime podcaster. When it comes to Hulk Hogan, I guess Cody Rhodes said it best. And I quote, I know emotions and feelings regarding it are complicated. But what is not complicated is his accomplishments and his contributions to WWE, to sports entertainment, to pro wrestling, to entertainment as a whole. End quote. So although I do not condone anything he did, the fact is. Me and many other kids in the 80s would not be wrestling fans if it were not for Hulk Hogan. He is truly wise. They say in wrestling, my ass is in the seat and it still is to this day. So for bringing me something that I will love to this day, I thank him. I liken this to OJ. Many know and believe he did the crime he was accused of, but what he did for football can never be erased. In Hogan's case, sometimes you have to separate the character from the man. I believe all of the things he did that was bad in wrestling and beyond was done on Terry Bollea time. However, due to who we knew him as, for some, it was hard to separate the two. So I say rest in peace to the Hulk Hogan I knew when I was 10 and to the other side of him. I hope he made his peace with God. And then I said, P.S. I would also like to take this time for those who will continue to call wrestling fake. We as wrestling fans are not dumb and know the history of wrestling. However, I will tell you only the outcome is predetermined. And we have known that for years. If you ever watch wrestling with me or have, then you would know I will sometimes call the outcome of a match. or a blown move. However, everything else is very real. Hogan had 25 back surgeries in 10 years, which led to a total fusing and reconstruction of his spine. Mick Foley has broken every bone in his body and has the body of a 90 year old. So not everything you see is fake. Now, let me kind of give you some insights to my comments. I felt it was important to say that last part that you just heard because I was... Stopping the wrestling is fake, people, before they began. There are just some people that's going to believe that everything that they see is fake and that those of us who have been wrestling fans and venture wrestling fans for years are just too dumb to figure that out or that we just drink the Kool-Aid that WWE pours down our throat. We, as true wrestling fans, know what's real and what's fake. we know is predetermined. And even... Vince McMahon knew that when he changed the name to WWE, when WWE was sued years ago because of WWF being the World Wildlife Fund. And they wanted that name back. If I remember correctly, Vince McMahon did not even fight it. He pretty much said it was time for a change in name that did not insult the wrestling crowd anymore. And so we got WWE, which stands for World Wrestling Entertainment. So... What I mean by my statement here is, don't condone everything Hogan did, but I can't take away, and neither can anybody take away, what he actually did do for wrestling. If there was no Hulk Hogan, there would be no WrestleMania, no SummerSlam, no Royal Rumble, there'd be no wrestling as we know it now. Also the same for Vince McMahon. Those two came together and gave us what we have now. So if you erase everything that Hulk Hogan has ever done, And because of some bad deeds that he did when it comes to wrestling, then you will, in fact, be erasing wrestling as we know it. So I have to thank him for that because of the fact that if it wasn't for Hulk Hogan and me being a little kid, I probably never got into wrestling. Sure, I knew of the old wrestling days because my mom used to watch Bobo Brazil and Ric Flair and Arn Anderson's of the world. But... As a kid, you had to have something that was captivating for you to want to watch that show. And when Hulk Hogan came out with the red and gold and the say your prayers, eat the vitamins, and he was this larger than life figure, that is what actually drew kids into wrestling. But then sometimes in life, people do things that takes away from the legacy that they built. And you can't just separate that all of a sudden because The man dies. The biggest thing that I hate about people is being fake. If you feel about somebody one way, don't change that up because that person died now. If that person was a trash person and you lived your life saying he was a trash person and you did everything to stay away from him because he was a trash person, then he doesn't automatically turn into a good person because he passes away. So when Hulk Hogan passed away, there was a lot of controversy that went around that. There's a lot of backlash from wrestlers that wrestled with him. There's a lot of backlash from black people that pretty much says forget Hogan. There's a lot of backlash from white people that said forget Hogan didn't stand for what he did. Let's just tackle some of that and see why that is. There was a private conversation in July 2015, and here's what everybody is throwing out. I believe on the day to the letter that he made his racist comments, Hulk Hogan died. Was it like 10 years later or something like that? Hulk Hogan dies. And this has been the big thing that everybody is blowing up, because they're like, oh, here's karma. He dies exactly to the letter on the day. that he made these comments. So people say, oh yeah, you know, karma came back to get him, you know, just 10 years later, now he passes on that date. So in July 2015, there was a private conversation and the conversation was actually from a few years prior, right? So it came from a 2007 sex tape that surfaced and it revealed Hulk Hogan by his real name. Now, I don't know if anybody knew his real name to that point. I kind of did because he had did a couple of shows where you know his name terry balea was there You know, he did Rocky, even though they had him as the Hulk, but I think they put Terry the Hulk Balea. But a lot of people don't pay attention to that. So this sex tape actually told you what his real name was. And he made some explicit remarks that was racist. And the remark was so bad. That it resonated through the whole entire wrestling world. And there was people like me that was like, okay, no, he really didn't say this, did he? I had to go and dig up stuff to make sure that he said it. I would never have believed in the million years that because of what Hogan stood for, at least as a wrestler that I grew up with as a little kid, that he would ever make those kind of statements. So I dig up this statement and figure out that the statement is about his daughter dating the black dude. He's throwing around the N-word pretty much saying, you know, he didn't want to do the data N-word. But if she was going to date one, at least make him be eight foot tall and make all these money, millions of dollars. And he says, I'm racist to a point. People, whether you agree or disagree, that killed Hulkamania for a whole lot of people. It even killed it so bad that the WWE wanted to distance themselves from Hogan. So that same year, they actually removed Hogan from the WWE Hall of Fame. You had no mention of him. He wasn't in the legacy section they had at that time. He wasn't in the Hall of Fame section. Hogan was gone. They had made an actual statement that said he would no longer be there because of these comments. Now, if you follow wrestling or anything about Hulk Hogan, you know he was inducted into the Hall of Fame twice. He was inducted first in 2005 when he went in solo, then again in 2020 as a member of the NWO New World Order. I was actually there in 2005. I have my coin still because they gave us this big old Hall of Fame coin that I still have sealed in cellophane. And I was there at Hulk Hogan's induction ceremony in 2005. Short story is I was on a cruise. We was trying to get tickets to go to WrestleMania. It was here in L.A. and I had called my friend Milt and I said, hey, you need to go get us some tickets, man. Here's my credit card number. We need to get to WrestleMania. So then... I get a hold of him when I get to the port and he goes, dude, I could not get us into WrestleMania. They say it's one of the fastest sellouts. I think it's sold off like 90 seconds. So I said, what can we get to then in that weekend? He goes, I think I can get us tickets to the Hall of Fame. So we got tickets to the Hall of Fame and we went. And when we went, there was it was a nice big class of people. The Iron Sheik was in there, a whole lot of other folks. It was bomb because it seems like all of my childhood was getting inducted that day. So I was happy to be there while Hogan got inducted. So in 2015, they ended up removing Hogan because of all this controversy, like I said. And so we thought that was the end of that. Well, then July 16th of 2018 rolled around and then we find out that they reinstated Hogan back into the Hall of Fame. And I guess because they felt like after numerous apologies and the things that he said, and then you did have some black wrestlers like Booker T came out and said that they didn't know that he was racist. They never treated him racist or whatever. And they thought that he had learned his lesson. WWE said, okay, We'll put you back in. Now, that was also met with a lot of controversy. There was a lot of people that still saying we don't even know why he was put back in. He should have just been let go. He should have just been done with. Okay, here's kind of where I stood on that. And I know this incident I'm going to mention happened way after that. But so I think it was back in 2020. Nick Cannon on the Nick Cannon show decided to have Professor Griff on his show. Professor Griff made some anti-Semitic statements and pretty much Nick Cannon agreed with some of them and he made comments behind it. As a podcaster myself, I did not give Nick Cannon any leeway on that because he already knew where Professor Griff stood and he knew what Professor Griff was going to say. And it is Nick Cannon's decision what gets aired and what does not. I don't think anybody tells you Nick Cannon could have said, whoa, we can't air this. You need to remove it or don't air it, but we can't. But he didn't do that. He went on the whole thing and he chimed in and he made comments. And then this pretty much got Nick Cannon canceled. Fox condemned him. He lost his walling out on MTV. A lot of people pulled out on him except for the Masked Singer. The Masked Singer felt like that they thought that he could be rehabilitated and that he could bring Goodwill back. So they did not cancel him immediately. Now, the difference between Nick Cannon and Hulk Hogan. Well, let me say this before I go there. So when they reinstated Hogan in 2018, this is before the Nick Cannon incident ever happened. I was kind of like, OK, well, I hope that he learned his lesson. and well let's see where it goes if he's truly sorry if he says that he's not racist and you know everybody says black people want to pray one they don't forget nobody say they're racist so i said let's see if he's not really racist and he's really sorry about these kind of things then he's not going to repeat these at any time in his life now when it comes to nick cannon even though it happened a couple years later when nick cannon did this same thing same thing Right. I'm like, oh, man, he's off the rails. Like I just said, he could have pulled this stuff, but he didn't. Everybody counseled the masked singer and then he started making apologies. Now, here's where there is two different opinions or let me say people just want to side with whoever. When Nick Cannon did this exact same thing, pretty much. People wanted to crucify him and say he should be gone and say, nope, Nick should never come back. But the moment they put Hogan back in the hall in 2018, yes, there were some people that disagreed. But a lot of people was like, oh, way to go, brother. He should come back. You can't hold both. If you're going to forgive one, you've got to forgive the other. So, of course, start coming out. Well, it's because Nick Cannon is black. If you want to look at Nick Cannon in the world that he's in. Nick Cannon's a big name. He was a comedian. Wild N' Out's been on for years. He's done things for the comedian and hip-hop community that nobody else has ever done. Same with Hogan and Wrestling. So I was willing to give Hogan this chance. Then Nick comes out and does what he does. Now, the difference between Nick Cannon and Hulk Hogan is this. Nick Cannon apologized. He went on and he worked on himself. I think he went overseas to some kind of camps. He made these comments that I'm doing everything I can every day to be a better Nick Cannon. And I apologize. Nick Cannon never did this stuff again. Now, if he is doing it, if he's still making racist, anti-Semitic comments or whatever he's doing, he ain't doing that in public. He ain't doing it where people can hear him. And so his career, he got everything that he pretty much lost back. including keeping the Masked Singer, which is still going on to this day. Nick Cannon learned from his mistake and he never repeated it. Hulk Hogan did not. Now, I don't get into politics on my channel, but I kind of have to talk about it because it leads that way. And no, I'm not saying the things I'm saying about Hogan because he decided to be Republican and he decided to go off and go to the RNC and back up Trump. It has nothing to do with that. You can do what you want. Let me point this out. There are several other wrestlers that are Republicans and back Trump too that has not been canceled. The Undertaker is one of them. But when you threaten to body slam a woman, no matter if it is a joke and is already heated, you haven't learned. When you side with somebody that people has already decided is a racist, You haven't learned now again, like I said undertaker is a trump supporter But he's come out in different level of that He just said he believed in what the guy was gonna do and you know He wanted to give him a shot and so on and so forth no racial ties Anybody even thought about with the undertaker? But when it came to Hogan, you start adding up the racial comments. You start looking at the comments that some people was thinking was racist that he was making about Kamala Harris. As quiet as it was, he threatens to body slam Kamala Harris at one of his shows at his bar. I think that it was. Yeah. And then you look at the comment that you win with the current guy that's president. You add all that up for some people. Racism comes out. You can believe and think about who you want to or back who you want to in politics. That's your decision. But when it comes down that somebody looks at them a certain way, you have to accept that person's opinion. So now people's like, oh, yeah, it's perfect that Hogan is with with Trump because he's a racist and Trump's racist. So here it is. Now, here was the biggest turning point. After all that was said and done, people started to turn on Hulk Hogan. Then comes the whole entire thing with his new American beer. Now, controversy continues with that because he's got his great American beer. I think that is called. He's really doing this thing big. He's got this whole promotion is going to go on behind it. The WWE has now signed on to it. They actually have his emblem in the ring. Then the controversy comes out that he fired. a brand ambassador that was hired to promote real American beer after he met her and realized she was a black woman. Now, some people say, oh, that ain't true. Why else did he fire her then? There's never been any other reason of why he fired her. Her name was Janae. She also claims that she was fired after she met him. and implied that she was hired through a booking agency. So what that means is that he hired an agency to hire people. He couldn't go out and say, make sure you hire somebody that's white. They hired this young lady, Janae, who was more than capable of doing the job. Have you ever seen her? She's a beautiful woman. You know, if that's what he wanted was beauty promoters beer, he had it. Problem was she was black. Now, the one thing that he did that people wanted to say he wasn't racist is he took a picture with her. Yippee-ki-yay. I'm taking pictures of people that I know is racist for a fact. A picture doesn't mean anything. So then that blew up. Then somebody wrote to him on Twitter and said, thanks for making it clear that you don't work with black brand ambassadors. This has captured her first TikTok where she shares images from the first in-store event alongside Hogan. And she doubled down with her comment within the clip that read POV Hulk Hogan paid you to be a brand ambassador and canceled your contract the next day because he realized you were a black brand ambassador. You can't argue with certain things. No other reason to fire this young lady. She was there on post when he got there. She was promoting the beer. But for the mere fact that he was that she was black. She had to go. Now, to further double down on that point, as you guys have heard, his daughter Brooke has come up in the news recently. Brooke hadn't talked to Hulk Hogan for at least two, the last two years of his life. Brooke has brought up on the TMZ interview she just did that she had been hurt and no one's looking at the hurt she went through when he made those racist comments. There's a lot of things that Brooke and Hulk went through in her lifetime with him. And like she said, all you got to do is Google it. Now that kind of put Brooke in a hard place, right? Because that's her dad. She loves her dad. And she even states that she did love her dad. And there was a lot of good times. So there was a lot of bad. Her husband even made a comment that I believe he said he never even met the twins, the two kids that they have because he said Hulk wasn't interested. So when your own family comes out and wants to call you up on your BS, you can't go back and say, well, it's just people making this up. This is his daughter. She's even stated that she believed her dad was a racist. Now, the whole thing came up about her being removed from the will and all that. She kind of cleared that up. She basically didn't want nothing from Hogan at that point. She's been taking care of herself, but she knew how the family. was going to react to money. She's already seen how the family is going to be. She didn't want to be a part of that circus. And she declined. Now, Harvey was asking her, well... What if you're not really from the will or whatever your dad left things specifically for you? Are you going to accept it? And she pretty much had a hard time saying yes. So whatever the riff was, besides that racist comment that he made years ago was with Brooke. It's deep. When you have somebody that lives in a 14.5 million dollar mansion and you don't want a piece of that. And you've been the one that's been behind your dad the whole time and with him through everything. There is something to be said. But she also said she wanted to prove that she didn't need the money or she wasn't out for her dad's riches, which she says the rest of the family will be. And now their meal ticket is no longer here. Now, what I really do dislike, like I think I said at the beginning, is people that wants to turn a certain way because somebody died. I'm going to tell you as painful as it was after Hogan made those statements years ago. After he did what he did at the RNC. Now, I was willing to forgive him for the past if he kept his nose clean. But after now he is deciding that he wants to go around and promote that he wants to body slam women and all those kind of things. I had totally removed Hulk Hogan from everything that I have. I'm a huge WWE collector. Ton of Hogan stuff. I'm about to have a blanket made out of the t-shirts that I've collected over the last 30 years and I have about two boxes it's gonna take like two blankets to get them all on here removed every Hulk Hogan shirt that was there I can't support somebody that stands for racism no matter how little or how big or that threatened to hurt women now what I was getting to is people I don't like when people want to turn because somebody died if you go to the first Monday Night Raw that was done on Netflix. This is well after Hulk Hogan made the comment about body slamming and all that stuff. And a lot of people were happy he went to the RNC and the whole nine. So go to that first episode of Monday Night Raw on Netflix. I was here in LA, I believe. Hogan got booed out of the building. Everywhere Hogan went just about, unless he went to red States, he was getting booed out the building. Now, according to Jimmy Hart, this really hurt Hulk Hogan. He didn't know why he was getting booed. And then he says, well, we went to Texas and everybody loved him. Okay. Well, Texas is a red state. So if you're looking at if people who are Trump followers is following him there and they're going to be okay with it. Okay. He probably will get a lot. of praise in the red states because well trump's republican and texas is one of the biggest followers of trump right now right but in every other venue he got booed out the building now if this is how you feel and if you feel like he was a trash human and he deserves to be booed out the building you need to keep that same energy when you find out that hulk hogan is now dead I didn't change my stance. I just wanted to make a statement that I felt like it was respectable to him for the man that I knew that put me in the seat. It was going to be respectable to his family. I had no reason to continue to want to drag it out because me and other people are already dragging it out. But my stance on Hogan hasn't changed because he's dead. But what happened in WWE and the universe? Oh, my gosh. Everybody turned. The moment it came across Hogan was dead, every arena now has these Hulk Hogan signs and thank you brother and rest in peace and nobody booed. That ain't the true feelings of everyone in the universe though. Now I'm not saying you should continue to boo the man, okay, but don't go to the first episode of Netflix or Raw Netflix and then you hate the dude and then because he passes away, all of a sudden, you're in love with him again, and... We should let bygones be bygones and that's it. That's not how I live my life. I think everybody has to be accountable for what they do. And if you want to be remembered a certain way, you have to live your life that way. It is okay to make mistakes. You know, I've always said this before. Maybe there is a little racism in everybody. Maybe there is, right? Racism, I think, has more forms than just hating somebody because of the color of their skin. They can be racist against a whole lot of things. You can be racist against women doing the same job as men. I mean, there's a lot of different racisms out there, right? But the biggest one that we deal with is racism against someone's skin tone. If you make that mistake, though, you apologize for that mistake and you keep moving. But if you will... apologize for that mistake and you keep moving, that means you should strive never to make that mistake again. And unfortunately, Hogan made that mistake again in many people's eyes. So if you want to be remembered to someone when you die, make sure you live the life that people will be able to go back and say, this is the legacy that he left and we're going to celebrate that. But if you turn into some type of a trash human being or you make statements that you shouldn't make and you don't go back to rectify those before you're dead, then the family and everybody else should not be coming for the people that feels a certain way. Now, I don't remember the exact statements, so I'm paraphrasing. But Kevin Nash, who you guys know worldwide as Diesel, was on his podcast. I think it's called Click This. And he was making, I think he made some statement like, you know, Hogan had a family. And what about his family? And what about his kids? And if you ain't got nothing nice to say about him, then F you. Well, here's the problem with that. Kevin Nash is crying. Ric Flair is crying. Jimmy Hart was crying. You know why they all crying? Because they ain't affected by anything Hogan said. They didn't, he didn't say anything racist against them. He didn't threaten to body slam some white woman that everybody loved to death. It didn't affect them the way that it affects everybody else. So with all respect to Kevin Nash, he has no reason to tell somebody else how they feel. Because it wasn't just black people that came out with that. White people came out with that. Women came out. I mean, if you look up Hulk Hogan, it says Hulk Hogan's death resurfaces a bunch of open wounds. Okay, so he can't tell people how to feel. What about the people's families that he made that comment about? What about how Kamala Harris and her husband and her nieces probably felt when Hogan threatened to body slam her? Whether that's a joke or not, it's something that should not be joked about. So the things that we went through as African-Americans and he made that statement and Kamala Harris as being a woman, especially a woman of color, none of those three that I named was affected by that. On the other hand, I have to give him the due respect, especially when it comes to Jimmy Hart and when it comes to Ric Flair. They was up and down the roads with Hogan. You know, most of their life from wrestling was spent with Hogan. They have all these matches with him. Sylvester Stallone, you know, had him in this movie. But still, nobody wants to talk about what the best of is and that is what's happening. Everybody just wants it to go away and be swept under the rug. That's not going to happen. Now, I don't bash people, so I'm not going to speak on it any more than after this episode. But I am going to tell you, yes, Hogan did himself in. And it only takes one mistake to kill 100 years of good deeds that you did. And this is going to be the same thing that's going to happen when Vince McMahon dies. When everybody's going to want to sweep under the rug what he did because he's dead. You're not going to be able to. His legacy should be one that you would come and thank Vince and celebrate him and the whole nine. But that one thing that happens, that sexual allegation, that lawsuit is going to trump all that. Just watch the moment that he passes away. In closing, I think I'd like to take a statement that I heard. On a video. So you guys remember who Maven Huffman was? Maven Huffman was in the WWE about 20 years ago. He has a YouTube channel. He decided that he was going to go and invade SummerSlam. Now Huffman has not watched wrestling since the day that he quit, I think in 2005. Or as they say, got fired. He was asked that on his channel and he goes, No, that's like watching an ex-girlfriend be with a new dude. I just couldn't do it. But he's always still had passion to hang out with the fans. So he went to SummerSlam, paid the $40 to park, just to walk around the parking lot to talk to fans. He ended up running into this group of fans that were all together. They were all African-American guys and they were barbecuing. And so he was like, y'all got some extra burgers, some extra dogs, they gave him some wings. And he was asking everybody this question. But he asked the guy, he goes, all right, man, let me ask you this question. Hulk Hogan. And the guy he was talking to, I think kind of said it best. He was like, he said he, and I'm paraphrasing. I don't got it exactly, but he pretty much said that he was torn because he mourned the guy that was his hero as a kid. And it was, he was saddened because of the fact that because of the things that Hogan has done in his life. that he's not able to celebrate him in the way that he should be celebrated. And I agree with that. We can't celebrate Hogan the way that we want to celebrate him because his life did not warrant that. Again, that's going to be the same thing that happens with Vince McMahon. So my suggestion again, my advice is to everybody who's listening to this, if you want to be remembered a certain way, If when you die, you don't want all this stuff to resurface, if you want to be remembered for whatever the good is that you did while you were still here breathing, then you have to live your life that way, even down to your last breath. If you made some mistakes in your life, make sure that you've already apologized for those. You made sure that you tried to clean your life up from that. And you move on. So even when the stuff does come back up, somebody can say, but wait, he apologized for those things and he never repeated those ever again. So we still cool to celebrate him the way we're supposed to. But remember, the way that your life was when you took your last breath is gonna be the way that people will remember you for the rest. of your life. People like to remember the good, but in today's world, people will remember the bad first. And if the bad outweighs the good, that is the legacy that you are left with. So again, I say this, rest in peace to the Hulk Hogan I knew as an eight or 10-year-old kid that put my butt in the seat, the man that had no blemish to me at that time. The man that was larger than life had cartoons on, and to this day is the reason that we do have the WWE and that my butt is still in the seat to this day. However, as an adult, I say I don't condone anything that Hulk Hogan did in the last part of his life. I have removed him from everything that there is in my wrestling memorabilia. There's just some things that you cannot support or get over. soul In that case, like I said in my Facebook post, whatever else that was there, I've been told that he was a Christian before he died. So I hope he made his peace with God and God is the only one that can save him and help him at this point. So I hope he was all good there. All right. So before I get out of here. I told you that I would tell you about an upcoming guest. The upcoming guest is going to come real soon. But the reason that I'm telling you this is because I want to say it now. I'm going to say it again because you ain't going to believe what you're going to hear. So Wall Street, the mafia, jail, accidents. What is all that half in common? It's going to be my guest. He's written a book that's going to be coming out sometime around the end of August. His name is Ben Skull. You want to tune in for this. He contacted me and left me a message on my website. For those of you who haven't heard me say it, I'll say it again. If you want to leave me a voicemail message, you can do so by going to my website at truecrimeandauthors.com. On the right hand side, there'll be a little tag that says leave a voicemail. Click that and you can leave me a voicemail. I will get those and I can even play them on the air if you like. But he left me a voicemail and he starts telling me that he's been in Wall Street for years and that he ends up taking it up with the mafia. And he made all these millions and then he lost everything. And I was in here going, right. Remember what I've been through for the last year and a half with my partner. We are not afraid of podcasts. I had to launch that we did to defend her. and I've gotten... crazy people that's just been leaving me messages and they've been fake. So when I heard this guy and the thing that actually intrigued me the most was he didn't send me an email. He says, this is my name. And he gave me his real name. Ben Skoll is his pen name. But he says, this is my name. Here's my phone number. Give me a call. So I called him. Within five minutes, I knew this guy was the real deal. In case he thought that I didn't believe him, he starts sending me all of this proof through text messages. He sends me the cover of his book. He sends me when it's going out. He also sends me an article that deals with a crash he talks about in the book. I have covered a lot of things. I'm telling you guys, this is something totally different. You do not want to miss Ben Skull. He'll be coming up sometime in the next week. Look out for that because now I'm dropping this one. You're going to get an author. This guy's also an author, so it's going to be a double author drop, but I could put him on either. leg. I can put him at author or extraordinary person. And we're going to push this out because as you guys know, I try to accommodate authors that has a book that's going to come out. So his book's going to come out at the end of August and we're going to talk all about it. I've already read it. He sent it to me. I read all 17 chapters in a night. Now, I don't know if he has any more going into the book over his finish, but that 17 chapters when he said it was done, but I'm telling you, it's a page turner. I read the whole thing to my daughter even one night, 17 chapters. I haven't done that before. So make sure you tune in for Ben's goal. All right, guys, that does it for me. Thank you for tuning in for this one. Whether you agree or disagree with me, I thought this was something that was important to talk about, being that I have been a wrestling fan for years. I want to kind of give you guys my two cents on that. But you know how I feel about you guys. Whether you agree or disagree, I still love all you guys. And thank you. for tuning in. We're back on track. Once again, sorry about that mishap with the long gap. That should not happen again. And we're back on regular episodes as usual. Once again, I remind you again to look out for Ben Skull. He's going to be coming up here very, very soon. Actually, I meet with him in a couple of days from this episode to shoot his episode. Make sure to tune in for that. Once again, thank you for joining us today. I know you have many choices in True Crime and Interview Podcasts, and I am grateful that I am one of your choices. You have been listening to the only three-faceted podcast of this kind. Be good to yourself and each other, and always remember, always stay humble. An act of kindness can make someone's day. A little love and compassion can go a long way. And remember that there is... An extraordinary person in all of us. I'll catch you guys on the next one.
