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• Speaker #0

  Well, thank you for coming. Oh,

• Speaker #1

  absolutely. Appreciate it, Governor. Yeah,

• Speaker #0

  yeah, yeah. Danielle Galantzman, a dear friend for years, and brought us together. And she's running for State Senate District 20. What do you see in her?

• Speaker #1

  District 20?

• Speaker #0

  Yeah.

• Speaker #1

  Oh, it is 20.

• Speaker #0

  Yeah.

• Speaker #1

  For some reason, I was thinking, oh, that's other guys are doing eight. What do I think of her?

• Speaker #0

  What do you see in her?

• Speaker #2

  That's it.

• Speaker #1

  Whoa, that's a loaded question.

• Speaker #0

  There's a $200 bill coming under the table right now, Fred.

• Speaker #1

  You know what I see is up and coming. I guess that's the words I would use. When Danielle and I first met, I think it was in Boulder City at some Republican event.

• Speaker #2

  Yeah, but we ran into each other when you were running the first time around.

• Speaker #1

  Running for what?

• Speaker #2

  When you were running for governor.

• Speaker #1

  Okay.

• Speaker #2

  I ran into you at the courthouse. I don't know why you were there, but I was walking out and you came running back and you go, where do I know you from? And I said, I'm running for assembly district. And then you go, what are you doing here? And I was like, I had jury duty. I'm okay. I'm not in trouble.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah. You had to clarify that. Yeah. Make sure you weren't reporting to your parole officer.

• Speaker #2

  Correct.

• Speaker #1

  Up and coming. So, I mean, she was obviously naive when she first started. and It takes a long time to get your feet on the ground in politics. And you understand personalities and the nuances and the ability to run a campaign and raise money and all those things. You know, you have this rainbow unicorn vision of your success in politics. And then she figured it out in short order, figured it out in short order. And the other thing I appreciate about her is we could have frank conversations. You know, it's not always a political conversation to where you're always trying to figure out the other individual and what they stand for, what motivates them, what they believe in. And it's a little more candid when we talk. And she's not afraid to say, hey, I don't support what your position is, Governor. And, you know, if you wouldn't mind, tell me why you have that position. So, you know, when we talk about things like... death with dignity and things like her. And I have gone back and forth quite a bit on that particular issue. But back to the original question, up and coming. And I mean that in a positive way. I believe she's found her way, her niche in the process, and what constituent she is attracted to and who's attracted to her and what she believes in. And, you know, because it's all nuanced. You know, especially in the world of MAGA and the Trump administration, people tend to glom on to what is popular and not what is personal. And I think that's more defined for Danielle.

• Speaker #0

  It's it's full disclosure. She's a client of mine. We've worked together for three years, been dear friends for almost 10. It's refreshing when I have a conversation with Danielle because. I mean, I'm, it's my show. I can swear. You don't have to, if you don't want to, but she's no bullshit.

• Speaker #1

  I mean,

• Speaker #0

  she wears her heart on her sleeve. And if she loves you, she loves you. And she is for you. You could still go at it, but it's like family. It's okay to go at it. Sometimes it's the refiner's fire and things get better. Sometimes when that happens and friendships are stronger, when you're more candid with somebody and it's something I've seen with her.

• Speaker #1

  Oh yeah. And it's, it's, and the responses aren't measured, you know? and sometimes you know me i hesitate when i answer and that's just me formulating the answer and making sure my thoughts are in process and people sometimes believe that i'm trying to dance around the question and that's not the case and uh you know her her responses aren't measured to what whether she's going to get the person's support or not what is the coolest part can i get a clinic

• Speaker #0

  Of course.

• Speaker #2

  See, Scott, I told you. This place makes me, my nose run, too.

• Speaker #0

  Let's go to Costco and replace the air filters.

• Speaker #1

  I don't want anybody to see the video and think I'm, you know, snorting.

• Speaker #2

  Blow?

• Speaker #1

  Blow.

• Speaker #0

  It's not legal, Governor. We can't do that. You can be high as giraffe nuts if you want to, but you can't snort.

• Speaker #1

  But that's the nature of the media, though. You do. Oh, my God. You know, subconscious move, and they think, oh. Yeah. You know.

• Speaker #2

  He's.

• Speaker #0

  Pupils are dilated. What's going on?

• Speaker #1

  Actually, I have very bad allergies.

• Speaker #0

  Well, it is the season, and now it's getting warmer out and windy, so it is what it is. I wanted to ask you, and this is something I've thought about for a while. What's the coolest part about being governor that no one knows?

• Speaker #1

  You know, that's a question that, well, I wouldn't say nobody, you know, when you say no one knows, that's not the common question. The common question is what is the coolest thing about being governor? And, you know, and everybody else has, everybody has a different response, especially the people that occupy the seat. But for me, it's the ability to meet folks that I would never meet in my life if I wasn't the governor. You know, and when I was the sheriff, you know, we. Everything was a little insular, a little myopic, because you develop a thick skin when you're in law enforcement and you believe that the population in general is of the same fabric. In other words, there's a very small portion of people within somebody's DNA or personality that is good in the world because it's negativity every day. every day, every day, every day. You're always responding to some negative issue or somebody in distress or some emotional catastrophe, whatever, an emergency, whatever it may be. But as a governor, it's a little bit different dynamic. It's sometimes you deal with people at their worst, you know, and you're dealing with emergencies and, you know, and, you know, law enforcement aspects. And, you know, it's a very diverse job, not device. You scratch that. It's not a device job. But it's diverse. But the more important piece is when I'm out and traveling and representing, you know, different aspects of the state, which are very different all across the board, and meeting people that I would never meet in my life. And it changes your complete attitude towards what I used to have. You know, it's 99% all bad, 1% good. And I think, you know, you flip that on its head. not in totality, but in the majority, people are pretty good, you know, and it gets you grounded on what the hell is bothering them, right, more often than not. And when I was the sheriff, it was very rare, very rare when somebody would come up to you and say, hey, we appreciate what you're doing. You're doing a good job. Very rare.

• Speaker #0

  Really?

• Speaker #1

  And it's not a nature of your performance of the sheriff. It's just, you know, what we deal with, right?

• Speaker #0

  One of the greatest things.

• Speaker #1

  I'll just finish it. And the other piece on that is, as the governor, it happens all the time where they're coming up. Hey, we appreciate what you're doing. Thank you for standing up for us. Thank you for representing us. Thank you for doing a good job. And I appreciate that.

• Speaker #2

  There's been so during session, there was a couple of times when governor and I met for coffee. And I don't know how many times I would after he would leave. Whoever came up to say hello would come up to me and say, my gosh, we never saw the other governor out and about. He's so nice, right? Or they would come up to the table and say, I'm sorry for bothering you. And God would go, no, come on over. Come say hi. What's your name? And he would give them time. And so just him being out and present within the community is different than other leaderships than we've had in the past. I mean, this weekend, he was doing a whole rural tour. from Reno all the way across the state down to the White Pine Ely and he's going out right like there's the Star Bar which is known for the pecan punch and after the dinner he went and visited everybody and the entire bar lit up that he would take time out of his busy schedule and you're exhausted after all those Lincoln Day dinners just to come and say hi and just be normal.

• Speaker #0

  Have you always been a people person? No. No. No,

• Speaker #1

  That's come over time. And you could tell by how quick my response is, it's absolute. So, you know, you have the introvert, extrovert personality evaluation as you grow up. You know, I was a little bit of a nerd in school. I participated significantly in sports, but I was pretty academic in school. You know, I graduated from UNLV with an engineering degree. So a little bit more mathematical STEM. type of education. And I was uncomfortable around people. What's the number one fear in the human's genome is public speaking, right? And I would sweat, my stomach would turn and everything else, especially when I made the decision to run for sheriff. And it took me quite a long time to feel comfortable in my skin and be able to present what I was thinking in my head and do it smoothly. and everything else that goes along with it. And then, you know, it just progresses over time. It just progresses over time. I just recently did an interview with John Ralston, and I've been... available to him for different interviews because you know it's it's basically he he's got a good big listening audience and get the word out right that that's what you want to try to do is get the word out instead of all the negativity that's you know approached upon you by a different party via social media whatever media stream it is and um you want to get your side of the story out right just like how danielle described it i saw me in public surprised her right that i'm gregarious and welcoming. you default back to this, you know, your original upbringing. And I was, my dad was in the military. So my entire, you know, youths, we had moved every three years. And I mean, you can't imagine how hard that is on a young kid. to make new friends every three years, to be uncomfortable in a new environment, who's the outsider, all that. So it made me a little more introverted. So then I made the decision to get into politics, and you had to break out of that fast in order to get some support. So it's come with time. So back to the Ralston thing, this last one, I had several people approach me. They said, man, you have progressed so much and how comfortable you are dealing with the answers. And one of the biggest issues wasn't just... personality driven it was i didn't want to be in a situation uh asked a question i didn't have an answer i was like oh i don't know and you know and look ignorant to whatever the issue is and so now it's you know you can't know everything about everything talk

• Speaker #0

  to me about when you ran for sheriff is that the first time it's called communication apprehension this is stage fright and is that the first time you really had to face that challenge yeah you

• Speaker #1

  I would say so. I mean, in totality, I mean, a lot of things you do outside of being the representative of an organization is amongst your peers, right? And, you know, you're a little more comfortable when you're amongst your peers versus, you know, the buck stops here. Here I am representing all your subordinates and functionality of the organization. And, yeah, it was probably the first time.

• Speaker #0

  What was the voice inside of you that, because you're a driven guy. I think you're a guy that you get shit done, but a lot of it I think is quiet, and you just get it done and move on. You don't care about getting the praise for it. Let's just go check it off. Let's move on. What is it that was like that voice inside of you that was like, all right, got to get up. I got to speak in front of hundreds of thousands of people. What was that voice?

• Speaker #1

  A lot of deep breathing. Was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I went to, you know, those traditional, I can't remember the names of them, you know, public speaking training things and everything.

• Speaker #2

  Oh, like Toastmasters? Yeah, things like that.

• Speaker #1

  But, you know, none of those work. I'm telling you, they don't work. I'm telling you, they don't. Because you're amongst, you know, 20, 30, 40 people in the class that are in the same situation you are, right? And you know what works? Doing it. That's the only thing that works.

• Speaker #2

  What about the first time you made national news as sheriff and you had to speak? Was it different?

• Speaker #1

  You talking about 1 October?

• Speaker #2

  I don't know if that was the first time. No,

• Speaker #1

  it wasn't the first time. Well, yeah, it probably was. the first time national news. I had a lot of times prior to being sheriff, you know, assistant sheriff and stuff involved in different emergency aspects, homeland security issues. What was the question?

• Speaker #2

  Just the first time you knew that you were about to speak and it was going to be national news. Yeah,

• Speaker #1

  yeah, yeah. It's funny, you go to this place called the National Academy and that's where police executives go back to Quantico, back east in Virginia to talk about leadership and learn. skills and everything. And one of the classes is public information and responding to the press. They throw you in a scenario, throw a camera in front of you and say, okay, this is the scenario. This is a situation. What are you allowed to talk about? What are you going to talk about? And how are you going to present it? And, and that was tough. That was very tough, but it was telling, you know, Hey, I need to work on this. But like I said, you have to do it in order to improve upon it.

• Speaker #2

  I remember the first time I heard you speak when you were running, the first time at the Keystone versus listening to you this weekend. Right. It's like night and day how comfortable you are up there. Like you kind of do some jokes and get everybody more relaxed and it's good.

• Speaker #1

  You know, and some people say that comedy is a default. It's a coping mechanism. Correct. And I don't agree with that. I think it's just relating. In my opinion,

• Speaker #0

  I think comedy can be disarming.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah.

• Speaker #0

  Like if, if you're, if you make somebody laugh, that's going to be engaging. because you're kind of, that's very disarming to them. I'm the dad of a 17-year-old stepdaughter. My daughter is 16 and goes to LVA. My son's 10 and goes to school at Glenn Taylor and Henderson. I make them laugh all the time. I'm the funniest guy they know. Just ask me.

• Speaker #2

  Well, Jack's the funniest kid I know. Jack's hilarious. Yeah, that's his youngest kid. Well,

• Speaker #0

  I'll be working for Jack Fargo one day. He's learning. He's teaching himself now guitar or Metallica. He's teaching himself. He's three weeks in, and it's wonderful to watch.

• Speaker #1

  Do you actually think you're funny?

• Speaker #0

  I do. I'm fucking hilarious. Yeah. Ask my wife.

• Speaker #1

  If I was a poor Jack aside, he wouldn't agree.

• Speaker #0

  Oh, Jack would disagree with you. With all due respect, sir, he would be very respectful to you, but he would say, no, my dad's not. He's told me I'm cool, which is the best validation ever. He's only 10 at this point.

• Speaker #1

  Whatever helps you sleep at night.

• Speaker #0

  Oh, if we knew each other better, I'd have a reply, but out of respect to the office, I won't say a word. I know that... In your bio online, it says, I believe, the greatest job you have is being a grandfather to your grandson, Theodore, right?

• Speaker #1

  Yeah, that's probably accurate.

• Speaker #0

  Right? As you govern—

• Speaker #1

  I wouldn't couch it as a job, though. Well, a position.

• Speaker #0

  Yeah, yeah. The greatest position you have is being a grandpa. Right,

• Speaker #1

  yeah.

• Speaker #0

  Right? As you're governing the state of Nevada, healthcare, housing, infrastructure, everything going on, How much are you thinking about? you know, what's going to be handed over to Theodore in the future. Yeah,

• Speaker #1

  I know where you're going with that. And before I answer the question, I don't want any of my other kids to feel slighted. It wasn't intended that way. Yeah,

• Speaker #0

  it wasn't intended that way.

• Speaker #1

  But that's it, man. I mean, that's the motivator. That's the motivator. You know, the motivator is you want to do good, you know, in the position that people elect you for. But more importantly is the future. because neon I've said this a thousand times, government is not efficient, right? And you have to come up with ideas and put policies and procedures and programs in place that have longevity. And what's it going to look like 10 years from now versus satisfying somebody that you want to get their vote, you know, or somebody to endorse you in the short term? So that's how I look at it from the beginning. And what is the future going to look like? Or is the people below me or after me going to say, man, this guy really screwed it up. I can't believe we're dealing with this in this situation. And unfortunately, because of the makeup and the mechanism of the legislature, they have to shove a lot of information in a short period of time. And a lot of it's, to be frank with you, it's not thought out, right? You know, there's different motivators in that process, but it's hard for you to evaluate. unintended consequences in the long term in that shorter crunched time and what that's going to look like in the future.

• Speaker #2

  And everybody has their handout in those 120 days. So the bigger the bill, the more the asks. And then I think one of the things that is probably frustrating for you and me is that it doesn't matter whether it's good policy. For a lot of the people up there, it matters whose policy it is. And instead of putting Nevadans first, they're putting party first. And so I find I'm sure you find that frustrating as well. I mean, let's take a look at that health care bill during special session. Great bill. Right. What did Cannizzaro do? She threw in to pull money, part of that grant money, 60 million, if I remember correctly, to go to Planned Parenthood. Well, they already get a ton of money, but she did it because she would get the endorsement because it would be good. And then it was also going to make it harder to get across the finish line for a lot of Republicans who don't believe that government money should be going to that at the very least. Right.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah, there's a lot of games to be played. And during any political process, no matter what branch of government it is. But it's important to know that going in. And the other one is to take it for what it's worth. You know, politics is always a moving target. Right.

• Speaker #2

  Yeah.

• Speaker #1

  It's a moving target. you And you have to figure out in short order what people's motivation is, what their motivators are. And a lot of times, and here's the thing, I'll be frank with your audience, is politics frustrates the hell out of me. Okay? And what I mean by that is I went in this with probably not eyes wide open, with rainbow sunglasses and chocolate rivers thinking. Hey, we're all in it for the same reason. And that is not the case. Absolutely is not the case. There's every individual person in the process has their own personal motivations. Right. But I thought, okay, I understand that. But I thought the majority of it would be to the benefit of the state and the people that live within the states and their families and what the future is going to look like. No, no, no. That's not the case. The majority of it is what is my next job going to be? And how can I leverage my current job to the benefit of myself? And the third piece on that is, what does the party say? What is the party's position? Not, forget my individual position and what I believed in when I stood there and raised my hand, got sworn in. Or prior to that, when I was on the campaign trail and made promises along the way and telling them what I was going to do. And then they get in there and the party's the all-powerful. The party comes down on you and says, nope, you need to either get on board or get out. And this is what the party believes in, even if it's agnostic to the state. And what I mean by that is, you know, you got the entire federal, you know, arm of the party. And then it comes down to regional arm of the party. Then it comes down to the states in particular. But Nevada is expected to get in line with Florida, right? Or, you know, if it's a Republican or Nevada is supposed to get in line with California, if it's Democrat. And that may not be my belief, but the party is going to tell you how to believe. And that's frustrating.

• Speaker #0

  It is something to me. I could never be in politics because I watch it and it's exhausting because you come in with all the best intentions. You know, the chocolate, you know, rivers and unicorns jumping through rainbows and all the good things. And you get in there and it's like death by a thousand cuts. You're just all the time. People are coming at you. When you go in for your second term, I'm assuming you're going to win. Going into second term, what are some things you've learned the first time that you're like, okay, now I can strap it up a little bit better. I can bunker down a little bit more moving forward with a better Nevada in your second term as governor?

• Speaker #1

  Great question. And it's not easy to answer, but I'll make a stab at it. You said, what did I learn and where am I going to buckle up to try to make a difference, correct?

• Speaker #0

  Yes, sir.

• Speaker #1

  Well, I explained how cumbersome and how flawed the policy is when we're trying to pass legislation that's beneficial. And there's a lot of forces that prevent you from doing a really good job there. And I tried to. take on too much in my first term. All right. You want to, you want to get these big comprehensive, you know, life changing bills, the omnibus bills, we call them. Um, that's going to have a larger influence on. majority of the population versus a minority of the population.

• Speaker #0

  So you're getting up to the plate and want to hit a home run every single time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• Speaker #1

  You're wanting to hit a home run and then you find out you're going in too many different directions. You got too many irons in the fire and, you know, and it's all these forces against you through the process. And then you're like, yeah, I need to scale this down in the future. You know, instead of trying to push six pieces of key legislations, let's. figure out the most important pieces of legislation in the short time that we have available to us and get that push. And you're probably going to say, well, what are those? And, you know, I've always told myself I wanted to be the education governor because I think that's the foundation of everything we do in society, education and that future for ourselves. And I want to continue on that path. And then secondary is, is, um, you know, you can bounce around in different aspects. And I had always said public safety is priority one, you know, for the success of the economy and your personal safety. But we've made monumental strides in the public safety space where we are still hurting tremendously is in the healthcare space. And so I want to have a significant, you know, but everything else is inclusive of that, expanding the economy. a birth plan economy, public safety, affordable attainable housing, right? All those aspects. But I want to make sure that all those aspects support education and healthcare.

• Speaker #2

  What do you think is holding back with the healthcare? I mean, I have my ideas, but I don't think I've ever asked you that.

• Speaker #1

  It's important in healthcare to, you know, to in the system itself. We've made strides in health care, mental health, you know, services, wraparound services, rural health care, technology, Medicaid, Medicare, all those things. But more importantly is the quality is hurting the most. And you hear, you've heard it for decades. You know, you got to go to the airport to get quality health care in the state of Nevada. You know, I'll push back on that a little bit. You know, I've experienced some quality health care here. without going to the airport, but I think it needs to be more robust. I think we need to have more specialized disciplines in the state. And, you know, we address that via graduate medical education. And what that means is when you graduate med school, you go off into your residency programs. And traditionally, wherever your residency program is, upon completion, you remain in that geography, right? You end up living there. Okay. because the place you're doing that, they probably offer you a job. So we don't have those programs other than, you know, internal medicine and general medicine here in the state of Nevada. And so we have to expand upon that. So the state, via the legislature, injected a significant amount of money, $300 million over two sessions, to expand upon that through the hospital systems, those residency programs to get more specialized. Um, so you asked what the hurdle is or what the obstacles are. Um, it takes a long time to do that, right? It takes a significant investment to do that. And there's limited coffers to address those particular issues. So we, you know, you gotta, you gotta parse that out. You gotta triage it and you gotta set your own priorities.

• Speaker #2

  Do you think that opening up, um, licensing just in terms of reciprocity with other states, which is being, could be struggling with here? There's a sense of,

• Speaker #1

  well, that's because there's a sense of ownership, right? When you get into a professional occupation, people say, well, I did it. Why can't they do it? Right. You know, and instead of, you know, that's going to take away from my customer base or, you know, it's a sense of competition, you know, all the failures of expansion. And the perfect example of that, Danielle, is, you know, because you dealt with it was the nursing compact, right? And the nurses says, no, I don't, we don't want all these other nurses here. That's going to limit my overtime, you know, my, my ability to fund my profession and everything else. And I said, Hey, that's a little selfish. You know, you're in the healthcare business to take care of others. Not necessarily. You have to in some aspects yourself, but not necessarily. Everything's all encompassing because of your situation. And for them to deny that over two sessions is, I think that's total malpractice.

• Speaker #0

  My wife is a hospice nurse.

• Speaker #1

  Right.

• Speaker #0

  And we got together two years ago now, and she came in from Florida and was just amazed by, you know, just how nurses aren't taken care of here. And it's because of the selfishness of others, of what's going on. And it's awful.

• Speaker #1

  It is awful. Another perfect example, there was a piece of legislation to increase. the nursing ratios at the hospitals. In other words, there was a staffing mandate, a level of requirement to be on floor in order to do that. So on one hand, we're suffering from a shortage of nurses. Okay, so let's go over here and mandate that we have these certain levels of staffing to provide quality care to these. Okay, well, how are you going to do that? Over time. Right. You're going to you're going to increase the overtime to where, well, why don't we get overtime in the long term is very detrimental, very detrimental quality of life for the employee, quality of life for the patient. And the malpractice that goes along with that and, you know, physically and everything else. So that's short term vision. Right. So now we're going to prevent the licensing from other states. We're going to make them have to come within our state. get the training and take the test and take two years to get your license, even though you've been practicing, you're a nurse, a registered nurse for 30 years in another jurisdiction. We do that with the legal community, with attorneys, and then we do it in the medical community with doctors. We do it in the contractor community with builders. Yeah. And it's very, it's. And so I issue an executive order knowing all this, because that's one of our biggest issues, right? Licensing and speed of licensing, people get frustrated. I'm going somewhere else. I'm not doing that. I've been practicing medicine for 30 freaking years. All right. I can do your job. Right. So I issued an executive order. I said, all our licensure boards, I said, find a way to streamline it and how we can do that without legislative process.

• Speaker #0

  All right. So they've been going through the nuances of that, but you're dealing with the boards and the members of the boards are in that profession. All right. So they're, they're, they're pushing back. So it's insular, you know, and it's a proverbial dog chasing its tail. And,

• Speaker #1

  well, the fox is guarding the hen house.

• Speaker #0

  Yeah. So we're, we're, we're, we're, but we've made some strides, significant strides in all of that and all of that, because, you know, when you have a patient that takes her, takes him or her six, seven, eight, nine months to get an appointment. That's unacceptable. That's not a community.

• Speaker #2

  I want to pivot it for a second to education. Like I said before, I have three kids in school, all CCSD. And anybody that says that CCSD is bad, my pushback is always, you're a shitty parent. You need to take a more active role in how you parent your kids. Now, are all schools perfect? No. But is CCSD that bad? Again, I'm very active with my wife and I co-parent with my ex, with my kids.

• Speaker #1

  I'm not the ex. You pointed to me. I'm sorry.

• Speaker #2

  I'm over here going like this. Is Rebecca my ex? But it's like kids are doing well at Liberty, at LVA, Glenn Taylor are doing well and decent grades and good kids. But also it's proactively, what are you working on? What do you have going on? Now, is that every parent that way? No. But that's your to do your responsibility as a parent to you're raising another human being that's your number one job is to make them better so i i think that i would agree with that it's overlooked a lot i would agree with that um in in the majority now

• Speaker #0

  there's different nuansal issues people deal with single parents right and you know the parent works graveyard and you know whatever the need to get by in life. But overall, I agree with you. product of public education here in Las Vegas, right? I went to Rancho High School.

• Speaker #1

  That's a long time ago.

• Speaker #0

  Yeah, it was. But I think you're right. I mean, in any organization, people are going to find fault, right? You go in a restaurant and you ask four people coming out the door, was the food good? Three will say yes. The other one said it was terrible, right? The service was terrible or whatever it may be. In any aspect of life, you could say that. And, you know, a business model, whatever it is. You're always going to have the people that you can't satisfy. You'll never satisfy 100%. You're lucky if you can get to 51%. So the excuses that are given from poor parenting is a crutch for them to say it's the education system, right? But there are also issues with the education system. You know, we had teacher ratios. You know, kids were being taught by substitute teachers that didn't have certifications because of the lack of teachers. A lot of vacancy factors, you know, environment factors, too many kids in a class and all those things that go along with it. And but you're right. I think public education is fantastic and kids can make whatever they want of a situation. You know, now they're now they're even talking about the rhetoric, especially in the system of higher education, university system. Are they antiquated? Are they obsolete? Are they nothing more than sports franchises? Right. you know, because you can get on AI and educate yourself. But the problem is you don't have any discipline when you're in your own home, in your office, you know, and the teacher not standing over you and making sure that you're in a learning environment. So there's a lot of nuancel stuff in education.

• Speaker #1

  I mean, as a parent now, I mean, I've got a 14-year-old, so college is starting to be the conversation. And I'm questioning whether that's the right pathway at this point. is And so I've actually sat down with Xander and had conversations with him just saying, like, you need to pick a degree that's actually going to earn you a living. Right. The goal is to be a functioning human that gives back to society, that contributes to society. And it's not just about getting a job. I want you to make jobs. Your dad and I make jobs. Right. You want to build. You want to be creative. And I don't know if college teaches that. Because I remember it was all about regurgitation until I got to my master's. Then they were like, oh, now you can critically think. Oh, well, thank you so much.

• Speaker #0

  You're exactly right, Danielle. I just saw a stat that 75% of all the billionaires in the world were non-employees. They were entrepreneurs, right? And, you know, you... Especially in the system of higher education, it's a sterile environment you're learning. What is the saying they always say about your professor? Those that can't do, teach kind of thing. And they get tenure in the university system and they're well paid and everything else. And I'll push back on one thing you said, Daniel. You said, what is the whole goal is to contribute to society and everything. I think it's twofold, though. You've got to be selfish, too. I want something that'll prosper me in life.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah.

• Speaker #0

  And then eventually my family in life, too. I think it's a combination of all that. Yeah,

• Speaker #1

  I selfishly don't want to pay for them anymore.

• Speaker #0

  Yeah,

• Speaker #2

  yeah, exactly.

• Speaker #0

  But let me back up on that. To build off what she said, it says you need to determine. And here's the problem. They're 18, and it's hard for them to determine, right? You hear it more and more and more, you know, how old kids become before they finally find their path, right? you get kids they're 18, 19, 20, don't even have a driver's license, right? Because society's changing, there's no fault in it, but they got to be able to find their path. And now, you know, you could come out of school with 200, $300,000 in student loan debt, right? You made that decision to take on that debt and go down that path, but it may be a path to where you're, you know, whatever, I'll just use a random word, counselor, that is not paying you enough to ever you pay off those student loans or give you a quality of life. Yeah, but you can get an internship, you know, right out of high school or even during high school now and become a welder, a plumber, a carpenter and everything else. And the wages that go along with that and the quality of life is improving.

• Speaker #1

  You just described my life and marriage.

• Speaker #0

  Right.

• Speaker #1

  Right. I had my master's in marriage and family therapy and then I'm getting paid $35,000 a year living in San Francisco. I can't. And then I meet Paul, who has a high school degree, but he's a contractor and he's making three to four times the amount of money that I'm making. And I was like, screw this. So by the time I was 30, I went into real estate. I couldn't make enough money as a counselor.

• Speaker #0

  Right. It depends on what quality of life you want to have, too, right? And, you know, I'm a product, too. So I go to school. I end up going to higher education. I become a civil engineer. I work as a civil engineer out in Garden Grove, California. And I looked, I said, am I going to be able to buy a house here ever? Am I going to live in this apartment forever and everything else? And then fortunately, I go do a ride along with my buddies back here in Vegas where I came from who are police officers now. I said, oh, I want to do this. It wasn't because of the dollar. It was because of the adrenaline and excitement and enjoyment of the job. And I've never looked back. Right. And I've come. I thought I would be here in life at 63. I'm here. And I'm like, geez, I surprised myself. But it wasn't as a result of formal education. It wasn't secondary. I don't want to take away from higher education because it helps you expand your mind, right? It gives you a different outlook on different things and conceptualize it and understand it and everything else, especially in economics. But we need to provide options. Yes. And those options can't be based off. whether it's $15 an hour versus, you know, $35.

• Speaker #2

  If you look at skilled labor, I mean, everyone should be all in right now on plumbers, electricians, HVAC, because if you look at AI, what's going on, in my opinion, this isn't your opinion, this is just mine, but 20 years from now, doctors, lawyers, gone. There's going to be AI doing it.

• Speaker #0

  Elon Musk was just on Joe Rogan said, hey, Grok can read your blood panel. better than any doctor.

• Speaker #2

  I upload all of my medical stuff into AI and it gives me, I have a complete thing now it does for me. All my imaging, back x-rays, CT scans, all that. It's immediate. I get stuff diagnosed.

• Speaker #0

  Do you mind if we stop?

• Speaker #2

  No, not at all.

• Speaker #0

  I got to use the restroom.

• Speaker #2

  Go right ahead.

• Speaker #0

  I don't know if you have to.

• Speaker #2

  No, you're fine. We'll cut it out.

• Speaker #3

  To the right.

• Speaker #2

  Am I doing?

• Speaker #1

  He's old.

• Speaker #4

  It just is what it is.

• Speaker #1

  He's loosening up now. Yeah. I was like, he's just being reserved right now. He doesn't know this guy, you know. Great. But now he's getting excited. And we're talking about stuff that's different and stuff we did not hear over the last. I was like, I was talking on the phone with Charlie on the way here. And she's like, please make sure he gets off his talking points. I'm so tired of hearing them. That's why I mean,

• Speaker #2

  I love you. I'm not going to look at any questions because with all due respect, it's like I've been doing this long enough that I know how to bring out the best in people in a sincere way. That just kind of navigate stuff and go. And I have some talking points. It's just like this. And what do you think about this? And that was the point.

• Speaker #1

  Remember, we talked on the phone. I'm like, let's just bring out a different side of him.

• Speaker #2

  That's the coolest part. And I mean, honestly, whatever you guys want, I'll come back and do stuff. 12 times a year, whatever, once a quarter. Yeah. Just to be like, hey, man, give me the topics to say, hey, these are like, get more.

• Speaker #4

  And this teacher.

• Speaker #2

  Yeah. Yeah. You know, we could do is like do remote like Hanks and Dirty Martini.

• Speaker #1

  That's not to know. That's not his. He likes dive bars.

• Speaker #2

  He does. OK, we're going to check. Yeah. Done.

• Speaker #1

  We should do it at Genoa Bar next time.

• Speaker #0

  What's that?

• Speaker #1

  The next podcast we should do at a Genoa bar.

• Speaker #2

  Part two of this will be at a dive bar of your choice.

• Speaker #0

  Why would you use that word, dive bar?

• Speaker #2

  Let's say a bar that accommodates the everyman. And we're all in t-shirts. Good?

• Speaker #1

  I was waiting. Sorry. Sorry, Scott.

• Speaker #2

  You know she hates direction, Scott. I know. We all know she hates direction.

• Speaker #1

  Because I'm.

• Speaker #2

  She's not close enough to the microphone. It drives Scott crazy.

• Speaker #0

  Are we back on?

• Speaker #2

  Yeah, we're good.

• Speaker #0

  So just to build off that a little bit, we were talking about AI and all that. But you can see, you can see in short order that there'll be a separation, right? You know how you hear about societies, different societies, you know, there's a, there's a upper class and a lower class. There's no middle class. And I think that's what's starting to be created. Well, middle class is always going to. because of the trades and they're moving up into the stature of financial wherewithal. But it's definitely a game changer. It's wild. What it's going to look like in 10 years. Well, actually five years. What it's going to look like. What trades are the most important versus what, you know. You see they're getting rid of programmers, right? Software is taking care of programmers. AI is taking care of programs. So all those traditional white-collar jobs are starting to fade away, and they're starting to retrain and reevaluate and do different things. And I think we'll adjust. I don't think AI is the evil boogeyman. I think society will make adjustments.

• Speaker #2

  When I walk out of the house now, in everything now, I look through the lens of, is AI going to be doing that? Is there going to be an optimist robot at Earth Cafe serving me my coffee in another five years? Is this going to be something that's going to be automated? And I think so. That's just progress. You know, when John Deere came out with the tractor in the early 1900s and no more oxen with the plow, we all adapted to that. We all got better. We all figured it out. And I think that's the approach we have to have with artificial intelligence. We have to adapt.

• Speaker #1

  One thing I think with the trades that we probably should keep our eye on is that they are good with their hands. And listen, I deal with this because the biggest frustration in my marriage is my husband's accounting with his construction business, right? He is bad with accounting. And so teaching within the trades how to account for your books, how to keep track of your tools. Because when you build a house, when you think about how many little you can't inventory all of that from the nuts and the bolts. to the big stuff, right? To the appliances. And so it's taken me 10 years to get a handle on his behavior, which is frustrating at times. It's called marriage. Just use the same credit card, Paul, to being able to dial it in so that we can have clean books. And I think that's going to be something that we probably need to provide some support as the trades get more robust.

• Speaker #0

  Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there's going to be support mechanisms in everything we do, right? And so, you know, examples when we're growing up, right, and you're going, am I going to go to college or not? And then you look at what am I going to study in college? You know, what is a personal interest and what is reality, right? And they always come out with those lists, right? Forbes magazine, the top 10 professions to go to college for for the future, right? And that just changes over time.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah, it does.

• Speaker #2

  We are going to see a tectonic shift in. That type of list very soon.

• Speaker #0

  Yeah.

• Speaker #2

  Very soon. And I'm having to talk with my daughter about college. And luckily, she's a straight-A student. She's looking at UNLV. Go Rebels. And so she'll get a scholarship and go there. But she told me the other day, archaeology. And I went, are you fucking kidding me? Archaeofuckingology? Honey, I love you with the heat of a thousand suns, but there's no... goddamn way you're going to UNLV for archaeology.

• Speaker #1

  I don't know. There's a ton of dinosaur bones from here to Elko. There's like...

• Speaker #0

  But you know, the thing about college, you know, in a year or two, you could go...

• Speaker #2

  what am i doing this for absolutely right it's like wait a minute how much am i gonna make what where do i gotta live you know that that kind of stuff you know a lot of it's because of lack of knowledge and you want to experience go forth fail go fail it's okay but it's coming back from that right you know it's i i love it it's like i love when people on the show here where it's you Tell me about when you got punched in the gut, man. What happened? How did that feel? And you're losing sleep, and you're just like, you're trying to make ends meet. How did you get through that? What is it? And that's why I asked about with you with public speaking for the first time. Like, what was that thing inside of you that you're like, okay, Joe, get the fuck up. Put your boots on. You've got to go. This is what you're going to do. Right? With all due respect, it's like, I love hearing things like that. And I think my audience does as well, and people do as well. We've become so fractionalized. Especially in the podcasting business with hot takes and you got to have a clip that goes viral and everything else. How about just having a conversation with somebody and just shooting the shit? And if something goes viral, okay, but you're not doing it for virality. It's more just for because I respect you. I love and respect you. So let's just have a conversation and talk about what we feel. I'm not going to be everyone's cup of tea, but I know that I'm confident what I'm saying and what both of you are saying. That's all. And it'd be nicer if more of us thought that way.

• Speaker #1

  It would be nice if more people had conversations.

• Speaker #2

  You think?

• Speaker #1

  Instead of like assumptions. Yeah. I mean. So that's fine.

• Speaker #2

  You know, I love that. I love to watch Danielle's.

• Speaker #0

  That's a good analogy.

• Speaker #2

  You know, Danielle's, you know, her ascension with social media and with the stuff that there's with Danielle. It is 10 steps forward than one or two steps back. But there's always growth. There's always evolution. And I'm.

• Speaker #0

  That's what I say. Up and coming.

• Speaker #2

  It's an extreme product of her journey.

• Speaker #0

  You know, even, well, let's talk about that just for a minute. You want to have a conversation is, so Danielle, you know, there's, she obviously knows there's naysayers, right? Yes. A lot of naysayers. And anything you do, there's naysayers. You know, in politics, it's at least 50% are naysayers, right? Hopefully you get to 51. you know, support. You know, it's funny when they measure, when they measure the president's favorability or job performance or any, any politician, um, if you get, if you break 50, that's like, that's the goal, right? And you think, wait, is that good? But that is the goal because a lot of times there's jealousy involved, right? You know, ah, she, she don't know what she doing. She's making a joke of herself, making a fool of herself and everything else. But then there's other people say, God, I wish I could do that. Yeah. I wish I had the ability to do that. Right. I wish I would have thought of that. Right.

• Speaker #1

  Well, what we've seen since I've started doing this more, like I see more and more legislators trying to do videos. Yeah. And what's funny is I'll get people to send in and be like, oh, this is so bad. Right. And I'm like, look, it takes practice. Like the first ones that I did, it took some time. Right.

• Speaker #0

  It's like reading from a teleprompter.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah.

• Speaker #0

  You think it's easy.

• Speaker #1

  It's not easy. It's not easy. Yeah. And I remember the first time I came on here, it was a favor to you. And I ended up just like having like an emotional vomit about, and it ended up being more of a therapy session to dealing with my first session, right? Because I got kicked in the teeth hard. And then I was like, oh, this is therapeutic. It makes it, I feel better, right? Because I can speak my mind because I'm not allowed to speak my mind in the legislature. So that's kind of how it came about was more of just like a mental health perspective. But I think it's getting to be more accepted. In terms of like other legislators starting to do it and reaching out on social media. I think we're going to start seeing that. Any form of communication is good,

• Speaker #0

  right? And the ability to get out to your people. And I mean, that's why campaigns cost so much, right? Why do they cost so much? Because you got to get your name ID and you got to get your word out, right? And how do you do that? All the mechanism and tools to do, you know, to get the word out, it costs money. But there's not one. And you're never. Yeah, exactly. Right? Like back in that day. You're never going to get everybody.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah.

• Speaker #0

  Not everybody's going to see your commercial.

• Speaker #2

  You're not.

• Speaker #0

  And modalities like this are great.

• Speaker #2

  One of the easiest ways to get the word out, and I see it, I see it from like a lot of folks in DC, is you're walking out of session, you're walking, pick your goddamn phone up and talk. And just talk.

• Speaker #1

  I know. He wanted me to do that last session and I was like, I'm not pressing, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not doing that. Like.

• Speaker #0

  Well, you got to do what you're comfortable with.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah, yeah, but I just knew the amount of blowback that would happen, me walking off the floor doing that, right, was just more than I wanted to deal with last session, honestly. I don't know. I might feel different about it next session. Oh,

• Speaker #2

  be still my heart. We'll see. But again, it's just connecting with your audience as often as possible in the most sincere way that you can. Right. It's not canned. It's not reading a teleprompter. it's you talking to you know, to me here or to your phone, and then you go ahead and your team posts it, whatever. But it's being available and getting this. to hear as fast as you can because if not if there's talking points and the press takes it and they clip it up the way they want to then it dilutes the overall message that you guys are trying to convey to your audience right and that what you just said there would clip it up that's a big thing in politics you

• Speaker #0

  know and i deal with it quite often because the opposite party they'll they'll take something i say over a period of two paragraphs And they'll clip it to five words and think, oh, it's the devil reincarnate, right? And it happens all the time. It happens all the time. So the ability to converse the entire syntax and content is important.

• Speaker #1

  You know, the other thing that's frustrating that I see is that I watch the Democrats constantly blame you for stuff, right? And it's like, but the legislation starts with them in both of their chambers.

• Speaker #0

  Yeah.

• Speaker #1

  Right. And so they are at the ground. They're the foundation of fixing the problem. You don't really get much of a say into it until it gets to your desk. And the fact that you don't have that line item veto, which other governors has, which says, let me make this a little bit better. Let me make this a little bit arduous. And I think people are scared of it. But here's my thought process. That legislator can say, I put it in there for whatever special interest. Okay. but then you can take it out and then do what's best for nevada and it's a win-win for everybody but they're afraid to give you that power um but i just hate that they are constantly blaming you for like the gas right the gas right like this has been going on for decades that were kind of tied to california that's what happens when you're when you're the boss you always get all the blame right yeah what are you doing about it what are you doing about it i

• Speaker #0

  wish i had the authority that people think I have.

• Speaker #1

  I think you were frustrated to find out you didn't the first session.

• Speaker #0

  That was something I learned very in due order. Like boards and commissions, I wanted to get rid of half of them, right? Yeah. I said they're antiquated. Some of them don't make sense. Some don't do anything. Some don't even meet and process to repeal them and adjust them. And here's the frustration. Something that opened my eyes, and I'm glad you brought it up, why would that be a arduous process why it makes sense right better streamlined government just for time you know over time how things change and what people are concerned with whatnot you know why because there's a freaking lobbyist attached to every one of them there's a lobbyist there's there's there's some outside forces that makes a living off it that is no we can't do that we can't do that things would be chaos, you know? Raining cats and dogs.

• Speaker #2

  There's a lot of, and I don't have personal experience, old school thinking that's still being applied to politics now with the consultants. Like I've talked to Danielle a million times about this. Roadside signs, it's noise to me. There's no need, and people disagree with me, but I've talked to other folks running for stuff here in town. Like what are you spending roadside signs? You should be doing videos and putting them online. Be more relatable than a sign on the side of the road or a billboard.

• Speaker #1

  So I'll say reason signs work for like, for instance, like there are some populations generationally that are not on social media. So like, I don't know how many times I hear from like the older generation. Like, I don't hear what the governor is doing. I'm like, are you on X? Because they post like 17 million times a day. Right.

• Speaker #0

  I think we're on a lot of platforms.

• Speaker #1

  But just in general, like follow him on Facebook or X or whatever it is. And so... to have the road signs is actually good for more of that analog generation.

• Speaker #2

  How much of that, and I'll push back a little bit with respect, how much of the analog boomer generation is in a district of like of, of yours?

• Speaker #1

  It's a huge part.

• Speaker #2

  Roadside signs make sense, but it's, that's not for everybody.

• Speaker #1

  Correct.

• Speaker #0

  I'm with you. I'm with you on this one. And you know, a lot of times, depending on the position, you know, what I've been told going through all the nuances of politics and different levels. You know, if you're in a statewide race, don't waste your money on road signs, right? Because you got to get more global. You got to get into the billboard commercial and spaces like that. So you have a bigger audience. And the issue I have, you know, and all you got to do is go to some major intersection.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah.

• Speaker #0

  You know, it's fine if it was just your sign there.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah.

• Speaker #0

  But there's 150 signs there. And you're trying to pay attention to the road and you may get stopped at a red light and can look over for a minute. But it's pollution. It's visual pollution. and the ability to consume whatever they're advertising, right? There's no separation. It's a conglomeration of mess.

• Speaker #2

  I'll say it because I can say it because the political consultants hate me. They just don't like me. I've talked to other people in town running for office, and they won't hire me because I tell them, I tell the people running, don't do roadside signs. Don't do billboards. Don't do TV. Don't do radio. Don't do print advertising. Don't put your name on a goddamn shopping cart at Smith's. Don't do it. What's wrong with you? 1987 just called and said, thank you so much. Stop it. Get in front of people on their phones and do stuff that is the clippable moment. All right,

• Speaker #0

  now I'm going to push back on you, and I'm going to side with her, because you listed a whole plethora of modalities to get your word out, right? Some of them I agree with. Other ones I don't. And some of it is, you were talking about it, a certain age demographic. You get into the senior citizens, people of my age, and you get a mail, a flyer in the mail, you hang on to that. And all you got to do in a perfect test bubble on that is go to a polling location, a voting location, and you'll see every one of those individuals standing in line with your flyer. Hopefully it's everyone. But they'll be standing there because it's a reminder to them and they're like, hmm, hmm, yes.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah.

• Speaker #2

  A hundred percent fair. But again, it goes back to reverse engineering. Who is your target audience? Right. And if your target audience is I'm 56, if your target audience is, you know, 55 and under, you should go more digital. If you're 56 up, absolutely more analog. Okay. A hundred percent.

• Speaker #0

  I agree. You're right. Okay. But, and then, then what is the reach of things like road signs? Reach is just total randomness. But the mailers may be too. You know, you get voting rolls, you get analysis associated with those voting rolls and who's who's who's, you know, voted in the last six cycles and everything. And this is their name and address. And they may be an independent voter versus a Republican or Democrat. So here's my flyer. That flyer is pinging them. Just like when you geofence the Internet, right? When you put a message out on the Internet, you could geofence that. It's all a science. And so I think it has to be measured. I appreciate your 1986, you know. That is true because you deal with some consultants. Well, that's why we've always done it, right? And that's why it's important to be educated on the best modalities.

• Speaker #1

  And I'll say something else. Like when you're talking about running for Congress or Senate or president or governor, the voters will go and vote for those. those like at the top of the ticket. For those of us that are down at the bottom, what I have learned that makes a difference is the door knocking, having conversations with those constituents, then getting an overall theme of like, because you tend to hear the same things. And then as it gets closer to election, like sort of modifying your mail to mimic these conversations so that when that person gets that mail, they go, oh, they were listening. Right. She remembers the conversation and then they want to go down ticket because it has to be emotional to want to go all the way down at the bottom. Oh,

• Speaker #0

  it does. That's why when you when you see the statistics that provide post-election, you know, say there's there I think there's two point three million registered voters in Nevada, you know, president on the on the electorate. Eighty five percent of those people vote for the president. You go down that same ballot. You get down there and it'll be, you know, 40% voted for this person. You know, even if you split it, D and R, right? You're like, well, why is that? Because it's all the way down here. They go in there with that mindset. I'm going to vote for these three people and I'm out of there. That's it.

• Speaker #1

  And the other thing you'll notice too is if you take a look at the Republican districts versus the Democrat districts, in order for like for my district, on average, you're looking at 40 plus thousand votes to get elected. There are some senators that only get like 15,000 because their district doesn't vote. There are some assembly members that only get 3,000 to 5,000 votes. Yeah. Right? I mean, plus the assembly,

• Speaker #0

  it's a lot smaller job.

• Speaker #1

  You're out of 80,000 people? Yeah. That's what got them over the finish line. So you have a majority of the population that is just not participating.

• Speaker #0

  And it's, again, I'm always about this reverse engineering stuff. It is, okay, what are the pain points or challenging points that they're having to get them interested? It's an open-ended question, but what is it that you have to do to get them to want to go in and show up to vote that day?

• Speaker #1

  Door knock. They need to like you. They need to feel like, you know.

• Speaker #2

  You're somebody.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah, but they have a responsibility.

• Speaker #2

  You're not, you know, the proverbial.

• Speaker #0

  model and if they ask you to come in you go in for 10 minutes or so and talk to them i've done that a few times as you should yeah because i mean that's not only do you get a vote from that but then you get a they're gonna be telling all their friends that this woman danielle galant came in and she's running for state senate and i'm definitely voting for her and this is what she said about what you know what we're going through so one time they're in sun city anthem right so he obviously i knocked on the door he obviously had like dementia or alzheimer's or something and but he was so excited that i knocked on the door and his wife's there so they bring me in

• Speaker #1

  cookies, some iced tea. He's got his veterans hat and he pulls out the article of Sam Brown. This was last cycle, right? And he's telling me about Sam Brown. So I had a nice conversation. I walked out of there. I screenshot it on the walkout, the address. A couple of weeks later, I'm at the veterans cemetery for the memorial service and Sam Brown's there. And I go up to Sam and I go, I got to tell you, this is your biggest fan. If you have time, will you go by there? You know what? They went by and said hi to him.

• Speaker #0

  Oh, good. That's great. Yeah.

• Speaker #1

  But little things like that, right? And I know that wife said, oh, that Danielle told Sam, remembered us, you know, and then what happened? She told 20 of her neighbors.

• Speaker #2

  Yeah. And what she's describing is fantastic, but you also have to quantify it, right? And I can't do that.

• Speaker #1

  No.

• Speaker #0

  No.

• Speaker #2

  Because I have the whole state I'm responsible for. I got to be everywhere all the time. And that's why volunteers are so important in campaigns. You know, your emissaries, your representatives. ability to go out and sell your story too. And when I say I can't do that, I mean, I can do it, but the percentage of people that I get in an electorate is a lot smaller than the percentage she's going to hit in her geography.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah.

• Speaker #0

  Are you, is your campaign going to- You know,

• Speaker #2

  the other side of that coin is she's described some very good scenarios. There's other scenarios where they say, get off my property.

• Speaker #0

  absolutely only a few times i did one guy answered the door naked that was a little weird i just did this it is i'll forget it i'm not doing that one but getting the word out uh and like tp usa is opening an office here i think tomorrow they open up yeah are you doing anything with them because i mean armies of kids armies of kids that will go knock on doors what is tomorrow

• Speaker #2

  Yeah. Is it Thursday? Yeah, I have two events with them tomorrow.

• Speaker #0

  Cool.

• Speaker #2

  At the office opening and an event later.

• Speaker #1

  Oh, good.

• Speaker #2

  Yeah, and so Danielle was talking about the Lincoln Day Circuit and everything. They've had TPUSA, those kids and the factions that are located in separate jurisdictions. They've been showing up to the Lincoln Days. I love it. And they have this one raffle. So a lot of the money that's raised for the… county parties are done at the leek and day dinners where you know it's a fundraiser to to support the party and um turning point is offering 500 door knocks and they bid it off brilliant i said it's brilliant brilliant that i didn't realize they were doing that oh yeah yeah you know you get running for assembly senate whatever it may be you're like i don't have enough volunteers oh yeah i'll give you you know 200 300 400 bucks go knock on 500 doors for me and hang your flyer or whatever it may be. That's a fantastic idea.

• Speaker #0

  How smart is that? For lack of a better term, it's weaponizing their army. Right, right. And it's brilliant what they're doing. Regardless of what side of the aisle they're on, that's just smart. Yeah. But also, I love it. I was a political science major in college, so it's getting kids involved also in the political machine. And that door knocking can be a bitch sometimes. I mean, it's summertime. You're knocking doors here in Southern Nevada. Oh, my God. But it's part of the process. and you have much more respect. When your hands are dirty and you're sweating and you're knocking on doors and getting doors slammed in your face or getting invited in for cookies.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah.

• Speaker #0

  What a wonderful way to participate in the American political process. Yeah. I love that. And I'm all in for what those kids are doing.

• Speaker #1

  For the first time.

• Speaker #2

  We were talking about him earlier.

• Speaker #1

  What do you mean?

• Speaker #2

  System of higher education. He got a political science degree. Yeah. He was probably having a conversation with himself while he was there. He's like, how am I going to make money at this?

• Speaker #0

  He was a salesman.

• Speaker #2

  He has a lot to do with a political science degree.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah.

• Speaker #0

  Not a goddamn thing. Not a goddamn thing. I was a double. Luckily, I was a double major. I was at St. John Fisher College in Rochester, New York, political science, communications, journalism. But I went into sales. My dad was a life insurance salesman in Manhattan. Dude, I was a cop. Well, you know what? I want to tell you this, but before we wrap up, 2018, the third quarter, I did the Citizens Police Academy.

• Speaker #2

  Oh,

• Speaker #0

  that's awesome. It was one of the best experiences I ever have had in my life. And What a great way for Metro to really shine that, you know, for all those Wednesdays, you go in for three hours and it's a different section of Metro every time. And those men and women are just it was amazing. It was amazing.

• Speaker #2

  The best one for me is the deadly use of force. So you go into a computer simulated room and they show you a video and you have to shoot or don't shoot. You know... A layman in the outside, why don't you just shoot him in the knee? Oh,

• Speaker #1

  I know.

• Speaker #2

  Why don't you shoot him in the knee? Why you got to kill him? Okay, well, let me explain to you why. Yeah. Cognitive learning, right? And instead of just verbalizing and they already have an attitude, put them in that situation and they fail every single time.

• Speaker #0

  I actually did that and I did the one in the casino. And I was with these two girls and I was in front and they're next to me. I go just do everything I do. And it's, it's like in Star Trek, it's called the Kobayashi Maru. It's there's just, there's no way you're going to win. There's no answer. There's no, there's no way you're going to win. And there was one of the trainers had, and it was an active shooter, had a hostage gun to that person's head. And it's like, there's no way you're going to win. I have it saved. I still watch it to this day. It was like seven, eight years ago. I still get goosebumps when I'm watching it because it was just one of the most intense moments of my life. And they're telling me there people come from all over the world. Police departments from all over the world come here and train.

• Speaker #2

  Yeah.

• Speaker #0

  And in those scenarios. And I'm like, good for you. And a lot of people don't know about that. And I think that's a really cool thing that Metro offers and Vegas has.

• Speaker #1

  I think it tells a lot, which most people don't want to or don't recognize. But the fact when the riots were happening, right, and like cities were burning during COVID, we did not make national news. And I think that's a reflection of our law enforcement and our training that we didn't make national news. And

• Speaker #2

  I think that's a proverbial nipping it in the bud.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah.

• Speaker #2

  You know, deal with it on the front end. Let them know what the boundaries are. And then it's a lot easier.

• Speaker #1

  I mean, we don't have Minnesota. We're not having a Minnesota ice craziness, right? Like that does not happen here. Just doesn't.

• Speaker #0

  Go McMayhill, by the way. Go McMayhill. I know.

• Speaker #1

  That was so badass what he did. And I commend you for. standing by him on that.

• Speaker #0

  You know,

• Speaker #2

  it's interesting on that story, just to give you a little color on that is I did that as the sheriff. Yeah. Pushed back on the judge's orders. And Kevin's done it, I think, 14 times, he told me. But because an influencer, just like you said, get the word out, influence found out about it, put it on social media, it grew like wildfire.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah.

• Speaker #2

  You know, that's been happening for years and years behind the scenes. And I think it's good it came out.

• Speaker #1

  Yeah.

• Speaker #2

  I think it's good it came out.

• Speaker #0

  I loved it.

• Speaker #2

  I mean, you know, because I don't want to get into the nuances of the law of it, but it's a lot of it is resource driven, too. You know, you have you have so many courts and they're driving people down into the system and they want, you know, limited incarceration instead of fully incarcerated. You know, you have ankle bracelets and things like that. And sometimes you don't have the resources to do it. Right. You don't have enough equipment to do it. You don't have enough people to monitor it and things like that because they're not tracking those numbers. And then you get a situation like what Kevin's dealing with on this last one, 35 previous felonies, right? The proverbial rotating door, right? Revolving door. And there's this time you have to put your foot down. Hey, my job, I raised my hand to protect society. Yeah.

• Speaker #0

  We need to get him in here.

• Speaker #1

  Kevin? Yeah. I can get Kevin in here. Yeah. Okay.

• Speaker #0

  Would love to. I just, I've, yeah. Ever since I took the Citizen Police Academy, I went through that. It was just, it was awesome. I've always respected law enforcement, but now it's like, and like the homicide. Holy crap. Holy crap. Not for the squeamish, but it was great. It's just a learning educational experience. Everyone should go through the Metro Citizen Police Academy, I think. Governor, thank you for coming in. No,

• Speaker #2

  thank you.

• Speaker #0

  This has been great. It's been a lot of fun.

• Speaker #1

  It was fun.

• Speaker #0

  Danielle, you behaved, which is really good.

• Speaker #1

  He brings that out of me.

• Speaker #0

  Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. And, you know, there's always an open seat here for you whenever you want to. If there's something you want to get off your chest or talk about, this has been fun.

• Speaker #2

  My pleasure.

• Speaker #0

  Thank you.

• Speaker #2

  Thank you, Danielle.