Princess Eugenie & Beatrice's Royal Crisis, Justin Timberlake's DUI Disaster & Maura Higgins' Birkin I House of Gossip | House of Gossip

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A big HOG announcement this week....

Followed by Maura Higgins' new Birkin bag gifted by a Traitor via Lisa Rinna.

Justin Timberlake’s DUI scandal is continuing to follow him around as he tries to get the footage banned from public consumption (go home Rodger)...

Plus catch up on the latest royal drama surrounding Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice retaining their royal titles despite their potential involvement with their father Andrew Mountbatten Windsor's indiscretions.

Listen to an archive ep on King Charles' Coronation entitled 'The Real Housewives of Westminster Abbey'

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Speaker #0
Hello, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good frickin' day It's Sophie Lyons with the stunning Clara Kavna. We're here to give you your weekly dose of pop culture nourishment. We are House of Gossip, ready to chat. Clara, how are you?
Speaker #1
I'm great I feel like we record at such different times and different energies and today is a whole new... dimension.
Speaker #0
It really does affect it.
Speaker #1
Friday night lights, delirium setting in for the weekend. We're ready to go.
Speaker #0
It's lashing rain.
Speaker #1
The working week is done. It's dark and dreary, but we're alive and we're ready to goss.
Speaker #0
I actually haven't even factored it in that the working week is over. Excellent.
Speaker #1
I know my week is all a kimbo because I didn't go into the office on the correct days. And now I'm like, whoa, who am I? Where am I?
Speaker #0
What am
Speaker #1
I? What am I?
Speaker #0
Yeah, the weather was really nice this weekend. Now it's turned rainy. So I hope it goes back.
Speaker #1
It gave a little sprinkling of summer.
Speaker #0
Oh my God. What a spring in my step.
Speaker #1
Shame.
Speaker #0
For the ladies.
Speaker #1
Shame, shame.
Speaker #0
Right, we're excited to talk about some celebs, some news. Gazza, kicking it off with your J'adore or J'attest. What are you going to hit me with?
Speaker #1
We're going to do a J'announcement. It's set. I don't know how to say this, but I am... so yeah up the duff and myself and Mick are expecting a little bambino in mid-April I'm so very scared very confused very shell-shocked elegant and very excited
Speaker #0
Clara for the listeners Clara has it's as if she isn't pregnant and it just takes everything in her stride I haven't heard anything you
Speaker #1
about anything yeah not that that should be the case but it's like whoa you've just taken it like a duck to water literally oh and look unreal i don't feel it on the inside i've barely slept but thank you for saying that though because you need all the perks my sister and i were saying it continuously oh like i was kind of expecting like a hollywood pregnancy in the sense of like the morning sickness and all the like usual symptoms that come along with pregnancy but um no I've had like really weird ones this might be TMI but like my placenta is at the front so I wasn't feeling a lot of kicks for the first half of the pregnancy my symptoms were so un-pregnancy related like really weird skin things and like the tiredness is one thing but I had like really bad vertigo like travel sickness like they just weren't like lining up with like restless leg like they just weren't lining up with what I the hallmark of a pregnancy But like, I genuinely, if I didn't start feeling kicks, I would have been one of those people on the front of like, Take a Break magazine being like, I pooped a baby in the toilet.
Speaker #0
What that must be like.
Speaker #1
Yeah, a cryptic pregnancy, I think they're called. I genuinely would have been one of those people. If I didn't feel the kicks, I would think that I was just like, I had some kind of weird virus.
Speaker #0
A stomach flu.
Speaker #1
Just your classic stomach flu. But no, feeling great, very excited and... Yeah, just feeling weird about all the change that's going to come. Good change. Amazing change.
Speaker #0
Fantastic change. That's going to come in April. On behalf of me and the hog community, we're very excited for you.
Speaker #1
Oh, there'll be a little, a mini hoglet coming soon.
Speaker #0
Aww.
Speaker #1
House Gossip will go on mat leave, so we'll keep you abreast of those plans. But I say we might wrap it Easter for a few months and revert back.
Speaker #0
Mitt baby I can't wait to know the name.
Speaker #1
I know. We have our girl named, the boy one struggling.
Speaker #0
It's like one thing when someone's like, I'm pregnant. I'm literally just like, I need it to be nine months. So I know what the name is. I'm so excited. I feel like it'll be a really cool name.
Speaker #1
Oh, so...
Speaker #0
We're very excited.
Speaker #1
Yeah, I'm very excited.
Speaker #0
I can hear cheers through my ears.
Speaker #1
Anyway, so what are you testing this week?
Speaker #0
Mine's so trivial after your pregnancy accident. Mine is a TV show. I love Kaley Cuoco. They sound so... I'm actually going to skip my J'adore. Let's just go into the gossip.
Speaker #1
Nah.
Speaker #0
Well, I'm being serious. Like, that's so stupid next to yours. Let's just move on to the gossip. It's so stupid.
Speaker #1
Oh, actually, can I run and go show you something? My sisters were here for the weekend. They got me a few little, because I didn't want to like a shower or anything, but they got me this little thing. Hang on, let me, actually, I should have gone earlier. Hang on, two seconds. Oh my God, I'm panting. And my sisters got me a few presents, but they also got me a fashionable sash.
Speaker #0
Oh my God. Where did they get that?
Speaker #1
I have no idea. So it's a sash in the Greggs logo, but it says Greggs.
Speaker #0
That's excellent. You should wear that on the tube.
Speaker #1
I know. Who needs the baby on board badge?
Speaker #0
Or just like on the high street in the supermarket.
Speaker #1
I did. We went out for brunch and they made me wear it. And I got so, I got so much stares. So thank you to Sophie and Hannah.
Speaker #0
Oh my God. I wonder. I love that. I wonder where they got it.
Speaker #1
I don't know.
Speaker #0
Well done.
Speaker #1
Did they commission it? We don't know.
Speaker #0
It could have been commissioned.
Speaker #1
I'm so obsessed.
Speaker #0
Are you not going to keep it on for the record?
Speaker #1
Yeah, let's do that. Yeah,
Speaker #0
let's do that. No, I can see it perfectly. You look really royal now.
Speaker #1
My royal blue. Frags. It's honestly the best thing ever.
Speaker #0
Well done, ladies.
Speaker #1
Knocked it out of the park.
Speaker #0
That solidified that I'm not doing a Chadorish test. That's just too good. Let's walk into the gossip section of the episode. You actually were going to say something about Maura Higgins, but I had something to say about Lisa Renner that actually leads into Maura Higgins. So this works out very well.
Speaker #1
Quite a Venn diagram.
Speaker #0
Exactly. For our Real Housewives listeners, I obviously am an avid fan. And one of the Beverly Hills ladies, Lisa Renna, has just done her new book. What is it called?
Speaker #1
She's been everywhere.
Speaker #0
You better believe I'm going to talk about it. She's everywhere.
Speaker #1
Yeah.
Speaker #0
She's the most successful ex-real housewife I think there is.
Speaker #1
Yes. As a non-housewife. Yeah. I see her everywhere. I know her.
Speaker #0
She was just on the US Traders as well. And I'm like dying to watch it. I'd say she was so good at being evil. I think she was a traitor.
Speaker #1
She was.
Speaker #0
Did you watch it?
Speaker #1
No, I just, in what I read.
Speaker #0
Oh, okay. I was like, do you have access to it? Sort of sweating there.
Speaker #1
Oh no, I don't know how to watch it.
Speaker #0
Her new book is out, but I saw it come up on my Spotify. So I was like, I'll listen to the audio book while I was working from home. Sorry, she gives some great gossip about like the behind the scenes of the housewives. Like she got fined before. What did she get fined before for saying something on the show? They were like, you can't say that they fined her 50k. And she talks about like Brandy Glanville going into the bathroom in one mood and talking to producers for like an hour and then coming out and throwing a glass of wine on one of the girls heads because she'd been talking to the producers, like all this kind of stuff. So it like gives excellent intel, which I loved. And she goes into all the different girls. She's very honest. I'm only kind of like a few chapters in, but it's all like. basically present day it's like within the last five years or something because I think she had a book out previously it's a good working from home listen wow you need to go to Jews I realise you're not a Haveswell stan but it's excellent yeah like she was really spilling tea on like what it was like to work with people excellent and she like talks about Andy Cohen who's the head of Bravo and he put her text in his book or something like he published her personal texts and stuff so she kind of goes after him a bit in this if anyone is a housewives connoisseur it's great kind of mindlessness thing I would highly recommend because she's such a like the big one of the most famous housewives so the season she finished on where she gave like she was like I'm not coming back Kathy Hilton basically had lost her mind on a cast trip to Aspen and had literally was like you saying nuts stuff about all the girls. She was saying she's going to take down Bravo, take down NBC. She was pounding the walls, apparently. Yeah, in the dark.
Speaker #1
Wait, is this on the show? Yeah,
Speaker #0
but we didn't see it. So we just hear Lisa Renna's account of it, right? But like, it's definitely true. And she was going nuts.
Speaker #1
Pounding the walls, Paris Hilton's mom.
Speaker #0
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, she's...
Speaker #1
Okay, I'd like to watch that kind of an episode.
Speaker #0
And then... Lisa texts one of the girls being like you're not going to believe what's happened she's like she's next door she's pounding the wall screaming and she gives this thing anyway so they come to the reunion and Kathy comes out and Lisa Ren in her book is like I knew that I was never people weren't going to kind of see what I was saying because there was a power imbalance with Kathy Hilton being there because she just got whatever she wanted because she's Kathy Hilton And you're not allowed anyone on the set when there's a reunion. You're not allowed like publicist or an assistant. It's literally your hair and makeup and that's it. But Kathy had her publicist there. And Lisa was like, this isn't fair game. And then in the reunion, it was very funny. She's like, you know, you text me after the incident apologizing. So you're acknowledging it's true. And Kathy Hilton's like, no, I didn't. And she's like, you did. Like, I have the text. And she was like, I have the text. Look, I haven't said a thing. And then Lisa Rana's like, I have the text. And you say stuff. And then I think it's Andy Cohen is like, you know, you can delete text messages on your phone. And then it just goes silent. It's unreal.
Speaker #1
It's like teaching, you know, when your mum needs tech help. Yeah.
Speaker #0
But like, she's like, there's nothing on my phone. And she talks about all that stuff that I've gotten in so far, I would recommend. It's just good, juicy, dirty gossip.
Speaker #1
That's great. Good housewife gossip. Yeah. But Lisa was also a great helping hand to her Traitors co-star, Rob Rauch, who won Traitors by tricking our dear Maura Higgins.
Speaker #0
Oh, did he win it?
Speaker #1
He did it. He tricked her to win.
Speaker #0
Okay. I saw the scene.
Speaker #1
Yeah. Then during the reunion show, he promised to buy her a Birkin to say sorry. So then, because I was on Instagram during the week and people were like, everyone's on Birkin watch. And I was like, what is going on here? But yeah, he ended up buying her a burgundy Hermes Togo with gold accents. The one that she requested. And he gave it to her live on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen. But Lisa Renna helped him get it.
Speaker #0
Yeah, because you can't just walk in and get one. But then also I was like, I thought it was her first Birkin. And I was like, this is great. Like, whatever. But it's not.
Speaker #1
That takes the shine off.
Speaker #0
It does. Because I saw a thing there and she was like, I only got a cream one.
Speaker #1
Yeah.
Speaker #0
A couple months back.
Speaker #1
Did you see her on? Now, don't get me wrong. I'm so happy she's broken America. I love her so much. Love her. She's so authentic. She's great. She's excellent. The fact that like... what an Irish girl ex-Love Island is cracking America like at the Super Bowl and starring in a movie. Unbelievable. But what the fuck was she wearing to What's Happened Life?
Speaker #0
She looked like Was it fur?
Speaker #1
Some kind of ice queen. Yeah, it was like way too dressed up for that show.
Speaker #0
But wasn't she wearing like a cadet leather hat in the Traders finale?
Speaker #1
it was like a pvc yeah like she did win best dressed of the castle did she because that would have been tough competition yeah she won best dressed apparently again didn't didn't watch it but well couldn't watch why don't they air it here i don't know i don't know why it doesn't go into like bbc or whatever yeah
Speaker #0
they seem to be making a real like moment out of the the burke i thought it was like maura's first burke and i was like that's excellent she's like i i got a Cream one. I think she has a few.
Speaker #1
love her anyway whatever well done Maura love her so so love her and yeah they gave Lisa a special shout out during Watch What Happens Live and she's like oh all's forgiven like he used part of his prize money to buy it for her well yeah it was like 11 grand when he gives it to her he wears the white gloves because the first person to touch it should be the owner I love that magic spell I was like oh that's cool that was very sweet
Speaker #0
the whole Birkin thing I think there was a certain time when I was like they are whoa I thought they were really cool and now I I don't know if it was the same thing then but now I feel like they just symbolize like greed yeah and like there's so many knockoffs it's like how do you know who has a real one there was also some was it an expose and it was basically saying that the Hermes bags it was like exposing them for, I think, being made in China. Do you remember? It wasn't that long ago.
Speaker #1
It was something to do with Trump and the tariffs. And it was like these people in China, Chinese people were saying that like, oh, it is some, oh, come on, trying to ring it in. They were saying that like, you think you're having like fine Italian leather goods from like Joltsin, Gabbana or Maize or from France or whatever. But no, no.
Speaker #0
they are the finishing touches are put on in those countries but they are made in these factories right here something like that don't quote me and I think that's how they're able to say made in France yeah because they might be like assembled in China but they're finished and all that kind of stuff in in France yeah the hardware is what they call the jingle bits on it the hardware oh insider info yeah pretty first go get a fake one ladies they do yeah they're a real capitalism sign I think yeah they are the only people who find that cool are the other people in the circle in the circle and then everybody else is a bit like oh get over it Kris Jenner had or has a light in her wardrobe and it said need more money for Birkin and you know it's very tongue-in-cheek but like I do think they're quite greedy.
Speaker #1
Yeah.
Speaker #0
It's just like more and more and more. And I think that's what a Birkin symbolizes.
Speaker #1
Yeah.
Speaker #0
God, I just got really like political woe.
Speaker #1
Capitalism woe, man.
Speaker #0
Moving on from Birkins and Lisa Renna and Maura Higgins. I saw this during the week. I hate to relish in someone else's misfortune, but it made me smile.
Speaker #1
Oh, it did.
Speaker #0
Justin Timberlake basically filed a, not a permanent, temporary.
Speaker #1
There you go.
Speaker #0
So he filed for a temporary restraining order to stop the footage of his arrest in 2024 being released.
Speaker #1
Yes.
Speaker #0
Now, I was so annoyed because I was like, A, we deserve to see it. And. be release the tapes as clara said release the tapes apparently it was him swerving in between lanes and then the footage shows the singer quote in an acutely vulnerable state during a roadside encounter with law enforcement what
Speaker #1
does that mean and he only had one drink as if he also wasn't he smoking weed yeah but also i heard that the footage is like eight hours like it's really long.
Speaker #0
What?
Speaker #1
Yeah.
Speaker #0
of the road officer.
Speaker #1
Yeah, because when they go back to the jailhouse.
Speaker #0
I did hear, I think this is at the time of his arrest, he was heard saying like, this is going to ruin my tour. And I feel like that was when he was in the car.
Speaker #1
Yes, because the police officer didn't recognize him because he was young.
Speaker #0
Oh my God, that's even better.
Speaker #1
And he goes, this is going to ruin the tour. And the policeman goes, what tour? And he goes, the world tour.
Speaker #0
My global tour.
Speaker #1
Yeah, and he was like, I don't know who you are. Because apparently this new policeman, like, marches into town. This new sheriff comes, like, clinking in.
Speaker #0
I love when a new sheriff comes to town.
Speaker #1
Whatever place he was in in the Hamptons, like, it's kind of known that people kind of drink and drive. The police are very lax there or whatever. Like, it's pretty chill. Bullshit And this new sheriff comes to town and he does not give two flying hoots about who you are or what rules you're breaking. And he took him down to the clinker.
Speaker #0
Was it him who arrested him? No, it was under. Is the new sheriff young though?
Speaker #1
He's the new guy, yes.
Speaker #0
How up and coming. Wow, love his attitude.
Speaker #1
I know. So he just didn't recognise Justin and saw a crime. But sorry, like you're drunk, drunk driving. You were swerving all over the road. You could have hurt yourself. You could have hurt other people. It's so irresponsible. Lock him up. Release the tapes.
Speaker #0
It's just not fair. There's one law for one group. And then there's another law for another. And it's not fair.
Speaker #1
Okay, while, yes, okay, he might have been in a vulnerable state and he would just become... What does that mean? Everyone would just make fun of him on the internet. Yeah, exactly. Like, was he pissed? So he must have been much more pissed than he's letting everyone let on.
Speaker #0
Vulnerable state. The word state is like, it's so ambiguous.
Speaker #1
100%. But then it's also like we're protecting a rich white guy because he can afford to have all these injunctions or stoppages in place.
Speaker #0
And let's be honest, he's already ruined himself with those dance moves.
Speaker #1
And with that quote, the world tour.
Speaker #0
And then he said...
Speaker #1
And those dance moves. People budgeted their money back. That was like the most ridiculous tour. That was like Katy Perry levels of bad.
Speaker #0
I'm just really disappointed because the quote was like, it would cause personal and professional, irrecutable...
Speaker #1
problems isn't it and it probably would but it's also like you you kind of did it so i think people deserve to see it but also it's a temporary restraining order which you imagine the bounty that could be on this tape again it's like the beckham's wedding tape yeah the jay-z elevator beyonce absolutely all i care about it could get leaked come on tmz do where do your fucking do your worst get in there guys do this one for the little guy you
Speaker #0
but he's won that request.
Speaker #1
And it's just kind of brought it back up as well. People remembered it.
Speaker #0
Like Britney Spears doesn't get any privacy.
Speaker #1
Britney isn't afforded the same. No, it's such a double standard.
Speaker #0
But that's an example. But I'm just thinking of all the other people who have had like, you know, their mug shots and stuff like that.
Speaker #1
Yeah, he just went in and went legal.
Speaker #0
I feel like there's something they're not telling us. Ah, maybe I have a tinfoil hat today. I just feel like we're not getting the full picture. Why does he get money?
Speaker #1
Special privileges.
Speaker #0
Yeah. It's also really weird when they publish 911 phone calls.
Speaker #1
Yeah.
Speaker #0
Of celebrities because they're made public.
Speaker #1
Yeah, it is weird.
Speaker #0
I find that quite strange too, but I suppose that's actually me contradicting myself because I want to see the Justin Timberlake tape.
Speaker #1
Yeah, release the tapes.
Speaker #0
Just release the tapes. We don't have anything else to update you on there. It's just the fact that he's been victorious, but on a temporary basis.
Speaker #1
Might still come out.
Speaker #0
But like, I thought he was cancelled.
Speaker #1
I know. I also thought he was getting a divorce from Jessica Biel, but doesn't seem to be too...
Speaker #0
They're definitely just together for show months.
Speaker #1
Really lost relevance. Like her big sister show was good, but Better Sister show. Oh, yeah. It's really good. She seems to be on a bit of an up.
Speaker #0
I like her though.
Speaker #1
Yeah, he's just really bringing her around. Yeah, couldn't really see more. Get rid of him. He just seems like a really...
Speaker #0
not a nice person so I don't have that much sympathy sorry did you see that video from recently of him on the tour and he's shouting at his sound guy oh get out and he is shouting at your man oh no no people are like why have I paid for this you're not even singing and he just puts his microphone down while they're like I got this feeling Instead of my bones. And he puts the microphone on the floor while the crowd's singing. People are like, why did I pay for him to do karaoke?
Speaker #1
Oh my God. Just host a group karaoke party.
Speaker #0
Totally. Just put on a CD.
Speaker #1
Did you see that also in this tour? Because this, what was this over the summertime? Did you see his, also his unflattering harness video?
Speaker #0
Yeah. Where he wore like a tunic.
Speaker #1
And whatever way the straps caught his nether region was not very flattering.
Speaker #0
But... Then after that, he got a new tunic to cover that.
Speaker #1
To cover. You clearly didn't go to rehearsals because you would have known that that was a mischief.
Speaker #0
Also, just get off the wire.
Speaker #1
You would have known that your tunic was too small.
Speaker #0
Get off the wire. Why are you on a wire?
Speaker #1
Yeah, just pick up your microphone and sing.
Speaker #0
You know what that is? It's because he can't sing as much anymore. So he's trying to distract.
Speaker #1
100%. He thinks he can just dance his way out of it, but we can't. We won't be conned no matter.
Speaker #0
Swing his way out of it, yeah. The only person who can pull off swinging around like that is Pink.
Speaker #1
Yes.
Speaker #0
And she sings whilst doing it.
Speaker #1
She's like an acrobat, a gymnast.
Speaker #0
She is.
Speaker #1
An evil Knievel, like a rebel without a cause. Unreal.
Speaker #0
She's punk rock.
Speaker #1
Also, if you're going to swing with your tunic.
Speaker #0
It is quite literally a tunic, though. I urge everyone to Google it because it's such a large tunic. Yes, the next time.
Speaker #1
But then you need to be like doing what Bad Bunny does on stage and have the anatomy to back it up. You hear me, ladies? Well, you know,
Speaker #0
people used to call him Trouser Snake. But now I'm wondering, was that coming from inside the camp?
Speaker #1
That's a fucking lie. That must have been an inside job.
Speaker #0
Well, yeah, now that you're saying it's not.
Speaker #1
Well, we also, we also do. I'd say it was probably bad shadowing, but like not a good, not a good look.
Speaker #0
Interesting.
Speaker #1
I just love the word tunic. I just really wish.
Speaker #0
But it is a tunic.
Speaker #1
Even the papers are calling it a tunic.
Speaker #0
It was like split up the sides. It was like a very wide tunic that he obviously had commissioned night of. I'd say the stylist was like, oh, my God, I have to make his tunic bigger.
Speaker #1
He did not. He did not wear it in dress rehearsal. That's for sure.
Speaker #0
I didn't wear the tunic in dress rehearsal.
Speaker #1
No wonder he's shouting at him. He's taking it all out on the poor sound guy.
Speaker #0
He is irate in it. He definitely has a lot of rage.
Speaker #1
And all the stuff that Britney said about him in her book as well. Like, he just does not seem like a nice guy.
Speaker #0
What did she say again?
Speaker #1
Oh, that he broke up with her and made it all look like it was her fault and that she was cheating on him.
Speaker #0
He did, yeah. Sorry, he did.
Speaker #1
Yeah. And then there was the whole thing around the, she was pregnant and then they had to do the at-home abortion.
Speaker #0
I didn't know that part.
Speaker #1
Yeah. And he, like, kept playing her music on the guitar. her or something. There was some weird story there.
Speaker #0
Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker #1
Because it would ruin both her images and she didn't really want to get it.
Speaker #0
And then when he apologised to her, he apologised to her and Janet Jackson in the same sentence.
Speaker #1
In the same sentence. In the same letter. Anyway, hooray for Tunix. Boo for JT. Release the pause. Release the tapes.
Speaker #0
Release the tapes.
Speaker #1
Oh, delirium.
Speaker #0
Now, you've something on the Royals, Gazza.
Speaker #1
I do. Obviously, we're not, we're no Emily Maitlis's up in here, okay? The Hog isn't really like news night, so we're not really going to touch on the Andrew Mountbatten, Epstein stuff. But we're going to lightly touch on it today because I saw an amazing headline written by Holly Wainwright. Got to give her props. But she said, Prince William is pushing his cousins. out of his carriage.
Speaker #0
I like that.
Speaker #1
And it really perked my ears. Anyway, while there's plenty of other actual journalists who have and will continue to go through all the Andrew stuff, but just to lightly touch on what this means for the wider royal family and cousins potentially of Feudan, is that while Beatrice and Eugenie aren't working members of the royal family, they do get together. For things like the Trooping of the Colour, Christmas, Remembrance Day and Royal Ascot and Breaking News, come June, Beatrice and Eugenie have been asked not to attend.
Speaker #0
By who?
Speaker #1
Prince William. They still have their Hate Your Hate titles.
Speaker #0
And they partly live on royal property. So they work in the private sector. They're both mum of two children.
Speaker #1
Aren't they both married to millionaires?
Speaker #0
Yes. Beatrice lives in the Cotswolds and has an apartment in St. James Place. Eugenie lives in Portugal and has a cottage in Kensington Palace, which they don't pay rent for. They're like patron of several charities where they don't get a pay packet from the public purse. They do have... trust funds. Like when they both turn 40 they'll get like 5 million pounds. When the Queen died they got 1.5 million.
Speaker #1
Sorry, from what?
Speaker #0
Like a will maybe?
Speaker #1
Isn't that like the public money? Where is that money coming from?
Speaker #0
I know, but they all get inheritance but they don't have to disclose. Even like Charles doesn't have to disclose his inheritance.
Speaker #1
Bullshit.
Speaker #0
And they say like they have their private purse and their public purse and all this stuff. But it's all the public's money. It's the taxpayers'.
Speaker #1
It's the same purse. It's the one clutch bag.
Speaker #0
They're all, their grubby little mitts are all in.
Speaker #1
You're only using the one clutch bag, ladies.
Speaker #0
Yeah. People magazine are saying that a family friend... Okay, this is against... You know me and my sources. A family friend tells people that the two sisters want to hold on to their royal status as it's their identity, even though their parents have been, like, wildly written off. And their economic prospects depend on remaining within the royal family, which I can understand. Even though they work in the private sector, their job in... say one of them works in like client relationships.
Speaker #1
What?
Speaker #0
Client relations are based on them being princesses. So if they lose their titles, they lose kind of their gravitas.
Speaker #1
Sorry, client relations for who?
Speaker #0
So Beatrice works in technology and consulting.
Speaker #1
What?
Speaker #0
Primarily as vice presidents of partnerships and strategies at a software company called Affinity. And then Eugenie is a director at the Hauser and Rith Art Gallery in London. Yeah, so they apparently spent last Christmas with King Charles. rather than with their parents. So some like royal insiders are going like, oh, is this maybe a signal of their next chapter? Or like, because they're kind of, they feel like a little bit of a hot potato because you can see why if William has sidelined them from Ascot and kind of like the royal events that they should be going to, if William's sidelining them, you can see why he's doing that because, you know, every time they're photographed, the story of Andrew, the story of Fergie all comes back up again. And if you want to keep things clean, the royal family are under such scrutiny at the moment. If you keep bringing up these two girls, just by virtue of them just standing there, everyone's going to go, well, actually, nothing's happened with Andrew in his rest. What's going on? Will he be charged? Epstein, Epstein, Epstein, you know, you can see why.
Speaker #1
Also, why would they want to be there?
Speaker #0
But then they need their royal titles because if they want all this, they do have to kind of mark it all. off it.
Speaker #1
But they're both married to really wealthy people. Do you mean from a money aspect?
Speaker #0
If their position, if the People magazine's source is right, and their position is they want to hang on to their titles, they need it for a money point of view. They need it for a business point of view. They are products of these two parents who are two quite awful people. So, William's probably playing the long game into the monarchy, going like, we've got to cut these guys loose. Anything to do with Andrew, let's just get rid of him. But then also, on the other side of that, it's like, why should the women be punished for the actions of the men in their life.
Speaker #1
Yes, fair play. That's a very good point to have in front of it.
Speaker #0
So I don't know. Now, in saying that, these two girlies' noses are not clean when it comes to Epstein. Would you like to know my findings?
Speaker #1
Sure.
Speaker #0
Beatrice was apparently involved in the media management discussions on how Fergie's Epstein relationship should be framed. And that's in the emails that have been leaked.
Speaker #1
Like the kind of crisis talk.
Speaker #0
How will market mum's relationship with Epstein? Shut up. Not great. Epstein paid for flights for them. Like he was always, they were on his jet all the time. The Epstein emails allege that Geoffrey sought palace tours from the sisters for his acquaintances. There was a lunch with Epstein and Sarah Ferguson in Palm Beach. with the girls in his mansion just days after his 2009 release from prison for soliciting a minor. Now, I think they were like 21, 22 at the time. So like maybe like when I was 21, I was basically like mentally 17. So I don't know. I don't know if we can blame them too much for that one. Then Tim Sykes is a royal reporter. And in his sub stack, he said that William wanted the two girls to submit. their finances to an ethical forensic accountant who could make sure that their lavish lifestyle wasn't funded by Epstein. And the two girls declined. So I can see why William is like, get out of my carriage at once. Oh my God. That's not great. It's a really murky one. And the thing about the royal family is they're so opaque and they're so, when it comes to money, like they're really not very clear with how public spending goes and like where they get all their money. So I can see why William's trying to distance himself from them. if the royal family is under such scrutiny.
Speaker #1
Oh my God.
Speaker #0
So, well, I don't think those girls should get the blame for like their dad's disgusting behaviour in every single element of his life. And also like their mum as well, like Fergie, like all that stuff that came out with her over the summertime, her writing all these like emails to Geoffrey. We don't really need to go into that stuff, but she's been so awful and saying all this mad shit about... Epstein, she's apparently now nearly homeless because everyone was like, oh, she's gone to the Middle East after Andrew got arrested.
Speaker #1
Oh my God, shut up. Yeah,
Speaker #0
but then apparently now she's in New York, effectively homeless and couchsurfing with friends. Priscilla Presley offered her a bed. So yeah, she has nowhere to go. And that's why I think she was living with Andrew because she has nowhere to go.
Speaker #1
Oh God, what a slapapot on his bear.
Speaker #0
I know.
Speaker #1
Get it together. Oh my God, imagine that being your two parents.
Speaker #0
Imagine.
Speaker #1
And then everyone knows it. Like having one sloppy parent is enough.
Speaker #0
No, the two of them are just awful.
Speaker #1
I can only imagine. I don't have sloppy parents, nor do you. But having one is enough to make you really struggle.
Speaker #0
To finish up, right? Sarah now has like nowhere to go physically, like effectively homeless. She's no money. She has been exposed for, you know, all these awful emails. gushing about Jeffrey Epstein after all his convictions. Like we don't have time to go into all of the terrible stuff that Sarah has done. If she's got nothing to lose, would little Fergie pen herself an autobiography? Would she follow in Harry's footsteps?
Speaker #1
Oh, of course. I'd say she's already been offered it so many times.
Speaker #0
I'd say she has. But like if her back goes up against the wall, how could she say no? But then like, then what does that do to her daughters though? Because... bringing it back to eugene and eugenie and beatrice it's like then you've you ruined their royal future because look what i suppose what happened to what happened to harry so i don't know i think that would be but what the girls could also do is distance themselves from both parents and go we should just step away from being royals and take a stand because at the moment you're kind of it's a bit like you're on the fence a tiny bit sorry i'm still wondering why do they want the titles? Power, money. success you know you drop that hrh the invites stop rolling in you're nobody you're used to your lavish lifestyle on yachts and at ascots and on the balcony but i think they're married to wealthy men like yeah but like there's being married to a wealthy man and living on a beach in portugal and there's being like a blue-blooded brit sitting on standing on the balcony waving to everyone on christmas day sitting pretty i don't know i'd say that's hard to let go of if your power hungry. or like you know status hungry jesus that's really depressing these aren't people normal people these are these are royals man so yeah i don't know wow we haven't talked about the royals in a while no and you know who reminded me of our royal episode we did one for the coronation do you remember an old 30 30 yeah that was quite fun yeah so maybe let's link that in the show notes because my sister hannah said she went back she just needed like i don't know a fix and she went back and listened to her coronation episode when Charlie got... Was it when Charles got the...
Speaker #1
The Platinum Jubilee. Platy Jubes.
Speaker #0
Oh no, it was the Platinum Jubes.
Speaker #1
Platy Jubes.
Speaker #0
No, I think it was... Remember him getting his crown? And then they started talking. There was a song and it was Camilla and it sounded like Camilla's vagina. There was a song.
Speaker #1
Was this the one that we were talking about Princess Anne with her Oakleys?
Speaker #0
Yes. Remember there was that really busty woman who held the sword?
Speaker #1
Oh, she's slight.
Speaker #0
And she totally stole Charles's thunder.
Speaker #1
And she held it up for ages. Yeah, I do.
Speaker #0
Yeah, she really commandeered the stage. And I'd say he was fucking raging in his purple.
Speaker #1
There's so many things that like, I'm not a royalist. I'm Irish, et cetera, et cetera. I could go on and on. However, the royal garments kill.
Speaker #0
It really does work.
Speaker #1
They're like the Pope, et cetera.
Speaker #0
Yeah, they are. The garb.
Speaker #1
I'm so into it.
Speaker #0
The garb is great.
Speaker #1
Gazza, you have a recommendation.
Speaker #0
I do. I was like probably everyone watching most award shows on TikTok and Instagram the next day. And oh my God, the Brits. Rosalie's performance at Berghain.
Speaker #1
Oh, I don't really know who she is. And I loved it so much.
Speaker #0
The way she was going. I have goosebumps just thinking about it. That album is unbelievable. She sings like 17 languages, is in like opera half the time. It is so good. And Bjork comes out.
Speaker #1
Where is she from?
Speaker #0
Spain.
Speaker #1
Oh, Spain. España. Very good.
Speaker #0
So if you just need a quick four minutes, like respite from your workday, just throw that on and just get ready to feel invigorated. It's like, not that I've been to Burgheim, but it's like it has a kind of club feel. And there's opera. Then Bjork comes out.
Speaker #1
And the dress and everything. Right out. Isn't she wearing like socks or something? Like long socks?
Speaker #0
Yeah, like definitely a barefooted woman for sure. She's in her like feelings. But like such an amazing body of work of that album. Brilliant. And then everyone was looking forward to her performing and her reaction.
Speaker #1
It is escapism when you're watching it. I agree.
Speaker #0
It's great. So watch that. Well, LinkedIn's shown it's obvious.
Speaker #1
Oh, totally. ums um Clara thank you so much for the royal reporting it's been a while since we've had a royal expert on I know thank you so much for now another congratulations to fabulous Clara and partner Mick aka Samantha on their very exciting news I can hear cheers I can hear I can hear everything from anyone listening thank you you got this Gazza you're gonna be a great woman mitt baby oh it's so surreal oh my god it's gonna be a young shaman yes a little baby shaman you A child shaman.
Speaker #0
I hope they're grown with the beard.
Speaker #1
Oh my God. If people touch their head, like something good will happen.
Speaker #0
Yes. It'd be like a little milky butter.
Speaker #1
Yeah. Yeah. If you rub it, something good happens.
Speaker #0
Rub it for life.
Speaker #1
I gotta go. I'm going to rub Clara's baby's head just because I have an interview later. He'll have a really shiny head. Yes. From people rubbing it. Anyway. Thank you so much for tuning in, ladies.
Speaker #0
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