- Speaker #0
Oink, oink, bitches! It's House of Gossip! Hog, hog, hog from the rooftops, hog from the seashores, hog from outer space. My name's Clara Kavner and this star herself is Sophie Lyons. Sophie, how are you? Fabulous.
- Speaker #1
Thank you for calling me a star.
- Speaker #0
So yes, we're going to get more into my space puns. We'll have more on that later. Oh, before we get going into our J'adore's and Ch'est's, I believe... We got a little message, a DM on our House of Gossip pod Instagram.
- Speaker #1
Yes.
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With some feedback. Feedback's a gift.
- Speaker #1
It was more kind of like there's a good bit of information here. Yes. It wasn't just a love your episode like we usually get. It's from Warona. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. And she said, liked your recent episode. I will say, though, on the top of Megan and her title, she is still a duchess because she's married to Harry, who is still a duke. Therefore, she can use her title as she pleases. They also offered to give up their titles. I did not know that. When they left the UK, but the palace refused to take them away. Didn't know that either. If divorced Fergie and even divorced Diana can use their titles, then why can't Meghan? Other than that, I love the episode Heart Emoji. Thank you for the info because I didn't know any of that. What do you think about that?
- Speaker #0
Heavily researched over here in House of Gossip Towers.
- Speaker #1
I didn't know they offered to give up their titles.
- Speaker #0
No, I didn't know that at all. I did know about there was that Sangrams. They had a summit with the Queen when they were leaving. Remember, it took a few years.
- Speaker #1
Sangringham or something.
- Speaker #0
Yes.
- Speaker #1
I always hear my mum say that and I'm like, what is that?
- Speaker #0
But I also don't know, like, if the Queen, because her emotional statement after letting them go to California and give back their official HRH titles and give up their duties. She must have been really sad about it. I just don't know if she knew that, as ever, and all this jam fiasco was on the horizon.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, because it was, like, different during that.
- Speaker #0
This listener has a great point, because Diana and Fergie were able to keep their titles, so why shouldn't Meghan?
- Speaker #1
Yeah, I think it was just used in a different way.
- Speaker #0
Used in a different way. Yeah, not a very regal way when you're getting commission of affiliate links. I don't know if the Queen really had that in her mind.
- Speaker #1
No, because she wouldn't be really into, like, the influencer space or...
- Speaker #0
blogging or tiktok or tweeting or tweeting or axing actually doing like the caramel mocha latte selfie in the morning yes you know she just she was from another era but that's not the reason not to give them their own titles but it's just the trading off is the she's
- Speaker #1
making money off the back of being a royal you know there is um you know that podcast with dac Jack Shepard. He has a fact check.
- Speaker #0
Oh, armchair. What's it called?
- Speaker #1
Armchair expert. He's like co-host goes and like retrospectively does fact checking.
- Speaker #0
Wow. He's got his very own Karen's in right beside him.
- Speaker #1
I sent a real Karen email earlier. Anyway, thank you so much for those pieces of information. I had no idea.
- Speaker #0
Yes,
- Speaker #1
thank you. I feel the same, but I had no idea. Every day is a learning curve.
- Speaker #0
Right. So, so what are you enjoying or testing from your week?
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Okay, so mine is like a viral thing I've seen and I'm undertaking it as research and I'm going to report back. I don't know if it's a myth. I don't know if it's an old wives tale, but it's like a new wives tale. Have you heard of these castor oil packs?
- Speaker #0
No.
- Speaker #1
So you can buy them like I got mine on Amazon. I try not to support Amazon, but it was the easiest place to get it. And you wrap it around. You can either do it around your neck. Yeah. Around like your trunk or your core. you open it up and you pour castor oil yeah in the middle of it and then you wrap it around yourself and leave it on for 45 minutes and it's like your liver and stuff it's supposed to absorb it i think and then potentially release toxins out something like that does it seep into your skin the castor apparently i've heard that castor was amazing i am so into this keep going yeah good for like detoxifying sleep and then there's loads of stuff being like this is how I got my six pack which I don't think is the case but the absorption through your belly button oh my god so it arrived yesterday and I'm gonna try it for like a week and I'll let you know what happens oh my god please there's loads of stuff being like doctors but
- Speaker #0
I'm all about trying these kind of things I've heard a lot with like using castor oil on your face and how it's great for your skin and I've heard loads of great things about castor oil well did I ever tell you about that tea bag thing on my trotters those patches that you stick to your feet yeah
- Speaker #1
And they're like Chinese medicine.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, I've used them.
- Speaker #1
And they're like black licorice in the morning. I've used those before.
- Speaker #0
But then the week goes on. Because I would think, oh, that's just a hoax and it just turns black overnight. But if you use it for a week, the black gets less.
- Speaker #1
No, whenever I use them as well, I have a terrible sleep when it's happening. And that makes sense because like it's detoxifying.
- Speaker #0
Sorry, horrible Chinese medicine for you over here.
- Speaker #1
So I'm going to try it. I'll report back maybe on next week's episode. We'll see. I also, on your recommendation, got a scalp brush. So this weekend is going to be pretty wild.
- Speaker #0
I'm pretty healthy.
- Speaker #1
What about you, Gazza? What are you loving or hating?
- Speaker #0
I'm loving Lady Gaga. I listened to her new album, Mayhem. There's one song in particular called How Bad Do You Want Me?
- Speaker #1
Oh, sexy.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, it would be played in like a big montage scene in an 80s film. She's real return to form this album, I must say. And she was on Las Culturistas, you know, that podcast with Bo Nyang and Matt Rogers. And... I think we can link it again in the show notes. I've sent it on to a good few people. But she speaks for like an hour and 15 minutes. And she is the most chill. I really like her. Endearing. Next door girly. And it's real insight into how like she makes an album. It's like a real like behind the scenes look. Like I love Lady Gaga as much as the next person. I wouldn't call myself a little monster. But like love her music. Think she's great. I loved her in that documentary. Five of one?
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That documentary of her I think is like the best. famous person documentary I've seen.
- Speaker #0
That was when she was making her album, Joanne. And she said that's like her most, one of her lowest artistic points. Like she just wasn't in a good headspace. She had a lot of injury. Yeah,
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do you remember with her back and everything?
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Yeah. She's doing a massive world tour now, so who knows.
- Speaker #1
Is she married?
- Speaker #0
She's engaged to Michael and the executive produced her album with her. Oh. But it's just like into that like creativity process. You know, how she writes her music, how... There's loads of like comedy in the music because she's such an artiste.
- Speaker #1
Like she's so like she's such an artist.
- Speaker #0
Avant-garde, you know, and she's real meaning in a message. And it was just nice getting into like how her brain works. It's a great interview and the album's really good. And yeah, I just adore Lady Gaga. Gaga. Gaga, mother monster. I'm going to put my paws up. Might try to get tickets for a gig, but the pre-sale, some of them were like minimum. The cheapest one was 200 pounds. So don't know if that'll be happening. Pour moi. Now, so I believe you have some tivity booze for us. Where would you like to kick off?
- Speaker #1
We saw this during the week and we could not talk about it. The Beatles 2028 release biopic, four parts. It's going to be released all at the same time, which is bonkers.
- Speaker #0
Eventing cinema.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. You know, when Barbie and...
- Speaker #0
Oppenheimer.
- Speaker #1
Oppenheimer. That was like an explosive day at the box office. Like, how would you pick which one to go? Because it's going to be doing it from each of their perspectives, I think, is why they're doing it. Yeah. Also, 2028, do you think any of the actors, when they're doing this, are like, what am I going to be doing in 2028?
- Speaker #0
Well, also, don't tell me that.
- Speaker #1
I wholeheartedly agree with you.
- Speaker #0
The Barbie film was teased out. And now, in fairness, that's a much bigger production and they had to, like, make all the sets. But, like, for a Beatles movie... Three years we have to wait. Tell us and it's coming out next summer.
- Speaker #1
I think a year is too much to...
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
They teased Mary Poppins with Emily Blunt over a year beforehand.
- Speaker #0
It just pisses me off when it's done. Three years is just... Fair enough if it's like they've been cast in the roles.
- Speaker #1
But they're doing like a press launch for that.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
I just think it's too much.
- Speaker #0
Too in advance. Like that's ridiculous.
- Speaker #1
Like we're not made of time. I wonder what I'll be doing. What will you be doing in 2028?
- Speaker #0
I don't know. It feels like like you're...
- Speaker #1
I'm terrified to think what I'll be doing. I have no idea. Oh my gosh. Like, let's just take a step back.
- Speaker #0
But I think the concept of the movies is very interesting. So they each star in their own film, but then they must be like side characters in the other three films.
- Speaker #1
Oh, defo, yeah.
- Speaker #0
Apparently, Barry is like learning how to play the drums. So it would be interesting to see. how they do the accents and play guitars. If they've got fucking three years, like they may as well learn how to play the drums. But I think it's interesting casting putting Barry as Ringo because I don't know who, Ringo's kind of a bit of a forgotten Beatle. So then if you put Barry in his shoes, like he probably has a really interesting story to tell. And then if you've got a great actor.
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Just in case anyone hasn't heard, Harris Dickinson, who's in that one...
- Speaker #0
Baby Girl with Nicole Kidman.
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He's John Lennon, our very own Paul Meskel. is Paul McCartney of Paul as Paul and apparently Paul has been told to play Paul he needs to buff down oh yeah get rid of that gladiator buff can you imagine someone was like relax your routine no no no yeah up the carbs up the carbs up the jelly beans up the Percy pigs and just enjoy your life Barry Kogan is Ringo Starr I have a point I'd like to talk to you about on this and then Joseph Quinn who's actually in gladiator with oh Paul Meskell, he's playing George Harrison. He's the creepy, the creepy twin brother. The other non-chlamydia, in inverted commas, brother. He's in it. He's playing George Harrison. All going to be released April 2028. So literally a year, three years from now. And interestingly, it's the first time Apple, the Beatles record company, and the two living band members, McCartney and Starr, have granted the rights to their stories for the big screen. that is a big deal I wonder did they sign off on these four yeah if I was Paul McCartney I would definitely want Paul Meskel playing me that's for god damn sure imagine being like yeah I'll sign off but like you know you need to get X played already ripples a backlash of the casting for casting four non-scouse actors and two of them being Irish Caroline O'Donoghue actually put something up I think I sent it to you and it was like and Barry Keoghan as Ringo Starr she put it up and she was like this is the funniest sentence in the English language, is going back to all the trauma and all the history and being like, and Barry Keoghan is playing Ringo Starr.
- Speaker #0
It's perfect. Maybe it'll change the way we do cinema and how cinemas race, maybe. But I'm not going to see four Beatles movies in one day.
- Speaker #1
Well, no, I'm just thinking because there's four of them, like we only really ever hear about Paul and John.
- Speaker #0
I do like the perspective and I think it's amazing. That's so different. and I love when like stories overlap and then you see different perspectives I love that me too but it'll be interesting to see where cinema will even be in three years I just think because it's in three years time it's like we don't know what cinema yeah will we be in floating seats yeah
- Speaker #1
like cinema might be bust by then fair point Greta but the main takeaway for me here is that 50% of the cast are Irish and it's an English band so that's I just think a win overall you Given what's happening with Trump, etc. I think this is a nice win for the Emerald Isle.
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By a lonely prison wall. Okay, now coming to you live from outer space. Jessica got in touch, my dear, dear friend.
- Speaker #1
Love Jessica.
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I was like, why haven't you talked about the Blue Origin rocket trip to space? And she's fucking dead right. So. The countdown's on for an all-female crew to head into space.
- Speaker #1
Is it all-female? Sorry, I don't know anything about this. I'm dying to hear.
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So it's the first time there's been an all-female space flight since 1963. And Blue Origin, which is owned by Jeff Bezos, is organising a trip with Katy Perry headlining. We're like head of the mission.
- Speaker #1
Is she like the lead space cadet?
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She's the lead space cadet. Journalist Gayle King, i.e. Oprah's best friend. I'm so nervous about her. Former NASA rocket scientist Aisha Bowe. Bioastronauts, research scientists and civil rights activists Amanda Nguyen. Filmmaker Kerry-Ann Flynn. Now, this is where it gets interesting. Journalist and helicopter pilot Lauren Sanchez, who was also engaged to Jeff Bezos. So he's sending his wife-to-be.
- Speaker #1
He must really believe in it unless he doesn't want to actually get married.
- Speaker #0
That's what I thought. That's what I thought.
- Speaker #1
And Nessie's like, yeah, yeah, let's do like a really good pre-nup. Don't worry about it. 50-50 right down the middle. No, no, no, no, no, no. But you'll go up on the Blue Origin rocket ship first.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Now they have sent a test ship up there. I think. And that went fine.
- Speaker #1
But we've just seen these astronauts that were supposed to be up for seven days and they were up for like 217 days. I know. Nothing ever goes to plan.
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But they went into the outer space. What this flight will do, it'll go 11 minutes and reach a height of 65 miles above. above Earth, the Carman line considered to be the boundary between the Earth's atmosphere and outer space. So Perry and her fellow crew members will not actually be launched into orbit. Then they'll come down. So I think this is to start off the commercial flights up to space.
- Speaker #1
I have zero interest in ever going near space.
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Zero. You couldn't fucking pay me. Although as much as I kind of love, hate Katy Perry, she did say something on her social media. Space is finally going to be glam. Let me tell you something. If I could take my glam up with me, I would want to do that. We're going to put the ass in astronaut. Oh my God.
- Speaker #1
Can you imagine the insurance on this whole thing?
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Yeah. Like one space travel, number one question, why? Like for commercial flights, it's just like, it reminds me of those Titanic submergible. Why do like rich people do stupid things? Like you don't need to go there. You can just do... They're doing all this simulation to prepare, except for all this training, obviously. I was like, just can that not be enough? Like, why do we have to go through or put ourselves through all these big... I get that it's an experience and I get it's once in a lifetime, but Gayle King is so precious. Like, she's an amazing journalist and all the other, like, women on the flight. Like, why take that risk? Like, you're... I don't know. What if something goes wrong?
- Speaker #1
Just also, why can't they just send a lot of men up there?
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Well, that's the thing, right? I also think you know the way Katy Perry got loads of flack for her album last year and she was like it's a woman's world and a man just lives in it or whatever the way that song went and it was the most tone deaf thing your man who Kesha had the big lawsuit against Dr. Luke produced it it was just the most dated out of touch album she's ever done so tone deaf but this to me feels like a bit like that it's like women kicking ass like going to space on her own it's just like this does nothing for kind of healing the what we're talking about in the adolescence episode we did like healing the like men and women together working together what like it just feels a bit gimmicky of this all-female flight it kind of sounds like oceans age or something it does it feels a bit gimmicky and like gail king i saw a clip of her on cbs and she was like like kind of tearing up and like wiping away a few tears when she was talking about Going up there and how nervous and scared she was.
- Speaker #1
Why is she going then? She's fucking 70.
- Speaker #0
You don't need to go. Oprah would disintegrate if something happened to her precious Gail. Would she? We would too. They're like best buds. Rumoured lovers.
- Speaker #1
I don't have any connection to Gail.
- Speaker #0
Oh, remember she did that interview with Orr Kelly right before he went to jail. And he stood up and she stayed so calm. It was a few years ago. No. Oh, she was incredible. I...
- Speaker #1
vaguely know what Gayle King looks like. Is she a journalist first or is she Oprah's friend first?
- Speaker #0
So Oprah used to present on this show in Chicago, like a news channel. And I think they met around that time and they were both kind of journalists coming up at the same time. So Gayle went down the more, you know, CBS, Morning Live, those kind of shows and Oprah did. Oprah.
- Speaker #1
Roger. I mean, do what you like. It's your life. I wouldn't want to be doing it.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, bon voyage, but no. I'd just rather do a simulation and just let that be that.
- Speaker #1
None of that interests me. Sorry, what's it for? They're obviously getting paid. They're basically brand ambassadors.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, because it's a private spaceflight company that's focused on developing reusable rocket engines and launch vehicles to lower the cost and increase accessibility of space travel.
- Speaker #1
Is that something that we need to do? Like, I'm just thinking, like, there's so many things that need to happen down here on Earth and they want to reuse rocket engines.
- Speaker #0
And the pollution. Hello, the environment. Like, even watching that test. The test rocket go up. The pollution alone looks awful. You're dead right. We should be focusing down here on Earth rather than going up there.
- Speaker #1
But also judge not, yes, lest ye be judged, you know. I'm just wondering the commercial side behind this. It's not what we think it is. Also, is there more pollution from like a private jet than there is the rocket?
- Speaker #0
I would say the rocket, but I'd say the amount of private jets would add up to a rocket.
- Speaker #1
But you're one that got off that NASA one, the lady. she is so fabulous you know the lady that got stuck up there oh yeah her smile when she came back down oh I didn't see it oh they bring her back down she's getting off and she is bewildered of course she is I'm sure she thought she wasn't going to return like that whole thing is unbelievable that they came back down Sunita oh god she does her poor hair yeah I know oh sorry her hair in space sorry I'm looking at it but her eyes she's so bewildered coming off the capsule thing she's like We would be like.
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But it's much worse for women to be in space than for men. A lot of testing is done, particularly seatbelts and like drugs. They're all done on men. They're not done on women. And especially for space, it's much harder on a woman's body than it is on.
- Speaker #1
Aging and all that.
- Speaker #0
I don't really know where to begin with this one so we'll just kind of spitball I actually started looking at the Beckhams this week Because Rebecca Lose, Lose, it's not Rebecca Lose anyway, it's like Rebecca Lose.
- Speaker #1
That's a real learning point because I thought it was Rebecca Lose.
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She did an interview with 60 Minutes Australia that got released. Timing of it is a bit odd, but we'll get into that in a moment. But I was doing some digging, you know, looking around about the Beckhams and I found out way more shit I didn't know. So here is my findings. Okay. Dave Beckham celebrated his 50th in Miami a few days ago. Even though his 50th isn't actually until the 2nd of May. So he's definitely in his birthday era, you know, shaking his tush for his B-Day, ringing in the month. Shaquille O'Neal was at it, Tom Brady, Justin Theroux, Lionel Messi, Mark Anthony.
- Speaker #1
They love Mark Anthony.
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They love Mark Anthony. The whole family, except for Brooklyn and Nicola Pelts-Beckham. So TMZ are reporting that Brooklyn and Romeo are in a feud. You shut up.
- Speaker #1
yeah how have i not seen this brooklyn wasn't at the 50th my live-in partner jane told me this too life partner my life partner jane told me this and he was like oh why isn't brooklyn there i was like i know neither of them have jobs like why couldn't they possibly be there sorry
- Speaker #0
he was probably at the launch of one of his many companies i was hot sauces apparently the brothers and this is all sources to tmz so tmz is usually pretty on the money too apparently it's all over romeo's girlfriend kim turble
- Speaker #1
his new one.
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So Romeo's 22, Kim is 23. They met in November 2024. But Kim, dot, dot, dot, many years ago, dot, dot, dot, had a romance with Brooklyn. Oh, shut up. Brooklyn is apparently questioning the motives of Kim because she's dating another Beckham son. And what are her intentions with his baby brother?
- Speaker #1
When did he date her?
- Speaker #0
Obviously before Nicola. I think it was years ago. Nicola. Nicola. But Brooklyn's 26. She's 23. So it can't have been that long ago. TMZ said that Brooklyn and Nicola have no plans to attend any family event when Turnbull is present. They skipped Victoria's fashion show in March. Did they? Yeah, apparently they weren't there. The Beckhams and Romeo live in London and Brooklyn and Nicola live in LA. David Beckham's team. oh yeah the one that he owns they were playing in LA and Romeo and Kim were there and apparently Brooklyn wasn't invited oh my god this is such juicy at the 50th Romeo put up a story and he said you're gonna love this family is everything love you all hearts hearts hearts tags everyone in the photo so like the beckons heart well hashtag Harper7 Cruz and his girlfriend came everybody but leaves out
- Speaker #1
Nicola and Brooklyn shut up family is everything now we appreciate you didn't tag them because they're not there but I would have they always kind of tag each other and everything though don't they like missing you at such and such so I've just looked it up to see when he was with her
- Speaker #0
2017 8 years ago so when he was 18 and she was 15 wait I'm not
- Speaker #1
Hang on. Rocco Ritchie's model girlfriend. She went out with Rocco Ritchie as well. Guy Ritchie's son.
- Speaker #0
Kim. Yes. That's very interesting. But I also think, though, the TMZ sources are saying that David and Victoria trust Kim and that it's just Brooklyn feels protective over Romeo and there's no ill will. It's just that Brooklyn doesn't approve. But I just think, why would you miss your dad's 50th, though? You must hate that girl a lot or not approve of her a lot.
- Speaker #1
But do you remember they went through a phase of not coming to loads of stuff because the family wasn't getting on with
- Speaker #0
Nicola? Victoria, apparently.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, have they done this before?
- Speaker #0
I just think that's so isolating and also like, I just think that's a huge deal to miss your mum's fashion show and then your dad's 50th all because you don't approve of the girlfriend. I find that a bit...
- Speaker #1
Or is it like Nicola's like, I don't want to be hanging out with someone you previously went out with?
- Speaker #0
Maybe. It just seems a bit chop your nose off to spite your face.
- Speaker #1
That's a really juicy gossip. We'll know at the next celebration, I suppose, what's going down.
- Speaker #0
But I must say, you asked me a while ago who is my favourite son, and I have to say it's Romeo. He does have his je ne sais quoi and he's tall. He's got the best mix of their two features.
- Speaker #1
He's stunning.
- Speaker #0
He almost looks like Mediterranean. He looks like he's got her dark features, like the dark, the brown hair and the solid skin. I agree. And now that I've seen more photos, before they all look kind of like one blob of a person. Now I kind of have gotten to look them in the mirror.
- Speaker #1
I saw him and Harper in public before.
- Speaker #0
Oh, wow.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, I definitely fancy him the most, especially with the shaved eyes, blonde hair. It's so hot.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, yeah.
- Speaker #1
She's Gazza.
- Speaker #0
That was a very vibey,
- Speaker #1
vibey vibe.
- Speaker #0
So then I was like, oh shit, back to what I'm actually started to talk about. I think I'd sent you this over Christmas. Rebecca Lowe's, I'm so sorry I'm getting this wrong. Anyway, she did an interview on this podcast called Anything Goes with James English. And I sent it to you and it was just, it was a lovely, like nostalgic listen because his podcast, I think it's quite successful, but like, it's not exactly like a mainstream one. I saw it online and then I was like, oh, I'll listen to this full episode. And it was quite like a nostalgic listen, because you're hearing from someone who was part of such a cultural moment of the Beckham affair. And you just really got to hear her side of the story. And I suppose in a way she's like, she's reacting to the 2023 Netflix Beckham documentary. But now 60 Minutes Australia have done their own interview with her. Whether that interview was... recorded a while ago and only being released now. I don't know why, because otherwise, why are you responding to their documentary? When she already did Good Morning Britain, she did press at the time. But regardless of the timing, she does actually speak really well about it because she's like, I never lied. I never exaggerated. All I knew was I knew the truth, despite what they said. She's like, I'm proud of how brave I was because I went up against the biggest lawyers, the biggest PR. and it was just me against them. She's very clear in how she wants to stand up for herself. I watched the 60 Minutes Australia thing. She said the commentary was very like football pun. She said like, I just feel this need to just stand up for myself. So anytime they bring my name into it, I'm going to retaliate with my side of the story because it's better off you hear it from me. So 60 Minutes Australia go like, they're making comments about me in that documentary, is them doing an Owen goal. Now it's time for Rebecca. to have her free kick. And she said she's going to keep doing this until he acknowledges what happened and stops denying and actually apologises.
- Speaker #1
He'll never apologise.
- Speaker #0
And he'll never do that. So basically, just as a slight refresher, he moved to Real Madrid and needed an assistant. Victoria Beckham stayed at home. Then this affair bubbled away and started and it all started on one night out. And then he said, oh, come on, you'll come back to my house. She felt like she was like the only person in the room. He was like, this is my first time. I've never done this. This is so bold. She said it was like thrilling. She was like 25, 26. She felt terrible, but then was like caught up with it. She said she fell for him like hook, line and sinker. Then they were at Ronaldo's birthday two or three weeks later and he was doing the same thing with somebody else. And she's like, I got played. All these photos got leaked from News of the World. Then she was like, okay, fine. Well, I'll tell my side of the story. If I'm going to be the only one getting the blame. you need to hear from my side like there's two of us there was two to tango there's two of us in it he can't just act like i tried to get with him after that like loads of because she was like oh i realized i wasn't the only one then like all these other people started coming out particularly this woman as sarah marbeck and she said we had an affair for like two years i was his mistress pimp and wife and she even would like played a part in setting him setting david beckham up with this woman called Esther Canadas and she was a Spanish supermodel. Look, we don't know what's going on behind the doors of the Beckhams but there must be an open marriage or something where he's allowed, there has to be agreements that he's allowed go and do these things because otherwise like why would they stay together and like why would they keep renewing their vows? Like they get married in 99 in Dublin. They renew their vows in 2016 after the Rebecca Lewis scandal. And then they've renewed them again in 2017. It's a lot of like proving their love. But I kind of like how Rebecca is their thorn in the side because she was like, I came out of the time because I wanted to get back with him because I was absolutely heartbroken. And she was like, I wanted him to feel the pain too. Like, why was I the only person getting like the embarrassment? And it's so unfair that like he gets away with it. Oh, and she said some really interesting things. She said, he's never denied the claims. He's just, him and his lawyers have called me ludicrous. She said, it's a term that lawyers use. that doesn't deny but it deflects the attention, which is really clever.
- Speaker #1
I need to watch this. Have you watched the full thing?
- Speaker #0
Yeah, yeah, it's 20 minutes. Well, Lincoln in the show notes. Ironically, it's not 60 minutes. I thought that that was an interesting use of like language. She's she in fairness, so like she's kind of dined out on that story for the last 20 years. She did Playboy. She did like a ton of reality TV shows. That's how she met her husband.
- Speaker #1
Isn't she married to some Klaus, like European billionaire?
- Speaker #0
Norwegian guy. I think he was like a cameraman on one of the reality TV shows. I think she did like Survivor. She says it in the James English podcast. Yeah, she's a meditation teacher. and a yoga teacher. I appreciate it's like tit for tat and I like the way she's kept the line of anytime you bring me up, I will come back out. Like, don't think you can mention me and your side of the story without me saying my side. And I do admire her determination in that. But also you live like such a chill life. When is the time to like let it go? She has two gorgeous kids. She lives in Norway. You know, there'd be a time where you're just like, who are you fighting for?
- Speaker #1
It's too much energy draining. Especially if she's a meditation teacher. They're really like, don't give energy to something that doesn't give you energy.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. But then there is like, I admire because it's so hard to go up against those big families.
- Speaker #1
Oh yeah, you wouldn't like.
- Speaker #0
Those media brands. And she's not being scared by them. When you're carrying it and then it's just doing you the damage. But I do admire her relentless clearing of her own name. Finishing on some favorite scandals. So a lot of these articles were like calling back to a book that got released last summer called House of Beckham. Now this book, you know, it's all reports and sources, but like the books can't get published when things aren't true. Speaking of like injunctions and stuff, books can't come out if it's all lies. In this book, it said apparently Rebecca couldn't keep her affair a secret anymore because of she got annoyed at him for how tight he was and he wouldn't tip a waitress when they were at the Hard Rock Cafe in Madrid. And the waitress had made a comment of like, oh, it's I basically live off the tips. And then he refused to tip the waitress. And he's notoriously had a bit of tax trouble and HMRC don't really like him. Has he? I think it was Neil Brandenbacher, he's never given them much money, even though he lives this flashy lifestyle, so they call them very stingy. And then another thing the book said, so calling back to Sarah.
- Speaker #1
You are full of it today.
- Speaker #0
But your one Sarah Marbeck, the one who he had the affair with, right? She leaked a load of his messages and he calls himself Peter Pan. He calls Victoria Beckham Wendy. And he called Sarah Tinkerbell. So he would send her texts like, we need to be discreet when Wendy's around.
- Speaker #1
Isn't that very sad? Would you not think there's something sexier?
- Speaker #0
And that like calling yourself Peter Pan is like exactly like I just wanted to be young forever. And he used to text her all these things about like having a pretty woman fantasy. That she was like a call girl and he was the rich guy coming to rescue her.
- Speaker #1
It's not a sexy.
- Speaker #0
I know. Oh,
- Speaker #1
that's not what I would want to be called.
- Speaker #0
And that Peter Pan fantasy is backed up by the fact that there was another woman in Denmark in 2002 who allegedly slept with him. I called him Selina Laurie, and she realized that picking up girls after matches was quite the normal for David. Peter Pan fantasy, David.
- Speaker #1
I've heard some other stuff very, like, fairly recently, but I'm actually too afraid to say it.
- Speaker #0
I'd say they use NDAs like there's no... no one's business. I say you can't enter a room with him in it without signing an NDA. They're stronger together and that whole family brand, they make more money together and if they're a very money conscious couple, why wouldn't they stay together? But of course, back to what we said in the Maura Higgins episode with Danny Jones, we cannot keep pitting the women against each other, blaming Rebecca, blaming Victoria. You know, he's still the like darling of England. You know, he might not have his knighthood but like, you know, The blame never seems to stick to him. It always goes to the women and, oh, sexting here and she was trying to seduce him and blah, blah, blah. No, he's the one coordinating it all. He's the one seeking it out. You know, it's this classic double standard that makes me so angry and it just keeps happening. The men never get the blame and they're the ones. This isn't just, oh, whoops, Peter Pan happened to me again.
- Speaker #1
You're so right.
- Speaker #0
You know, it never sticks to him. And I appreciate it. It's hard because he's such an icon of like British culture and sport history and all that stuff. It's hard to take him out of that brand. But like, just don't be married or don't be pretend married. Then do what you want.
- Speaker #1
When do we think Harper is going to get Instagram?
- Speaker #0
I don't know. I don't know.
- Speaker #1
She definitely has a Finsta.
- Speaker #0
Oh, definitely has a Finsta.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, she definitely does. Clara, thank you so much for that hot gossip. I hadn't heard any of it. Where have I been? Clara, I understand you have a record this week.
- Speaker #0
I do. And it's another podcast for your weekend of wholesomeness. I texted it to you. Oh, yeah. It is Celebrity Memoir Book Club. I've done a Jay Shetty episode. It's two hours and two minutes. So as I said to you in a text, you'd swear you were the one presenting it. They just laugh their way through all his theories, how meaningless his book is, how he's just like copied. It's similar to what we said in our Jay Shetty, Jay-Z episode, but it's just, I'm only like 45 minutes in and it's just preposterous, all the stuff he's telling you to believe in and like, don't engage the outside world and like, oh, but we must think of the children. Like none of it makes any sense. It's great. It's really good. It's good. Hate listen. Listen to them hate reading.
- Speaker #1
I'm definitely going to list it but it's going to be in parts because I'll probably get annoyed at Jay at Jay of course yeah yeah I've had it in parts as well they do a great one also on that blogger Danielle Bernstein who's like a bit she's been called out in the past and they do a really good roast on her it's kind of roasty material yeah it's great roast and it just like you know laments all the shit we've been saying about Jay Shetty so it's nice to actually hear oh he is actually full of shit well he's Hollywood's favourite monk yeah Monk in inverted commas. I loved that, Gazza. Thank you all so much for tuning in on hopefully Tuesday morning, Tuesday afternoon or even Tuesday evening. Oh, when this airs, we'll know what's happened at the end of the White Lotus.
- Speaker #0
Oh, so yeah, keep an eye out for our special ep and we'll know what's happened with the space trip.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, Clara and I have both set reminders for Monday morning not to go on the internet or Instagram. So we don't see any spoilers because I don't want any. But we'll follow up with a fantastic... finale to the White Lotus Series 3. Thank you so much for listening. Have a fabulous day. Until next time. Ta-ra.
- Speaker #0
That's it from us. Ta-ra.
