- Speaker #0
oink oink bitches good afternoon good morning good evening and good night to all our hoglets at the trough of goss it's me clara cavna and you soapy lions and we are here for house of goss to oink together goss together join trotters and goss about slabs chitter chatter tete-a-tete you know what's up it's you What day is it? Oh, jeez. I'm so tired. I don't know what day it is. Thursday. And we're here to party. So, how are you? Sorry, that kind of trickled off.
- Speaker #1
That was lovely, Gazza. It's very sunny. I'm a happy girl. How are you?
- Speaker #0
Very tired, but very happy. And yeah, the sunshine really brings out a certain pep, as we always, seems to always be sunny when we record. So that's nice.
- Speaker #1
I would take that as a spiritual element.
- Speaker #0
Me too. Me too. Okay. I'm so sorry. Before we crack into this week's bitching about many, many Justins, which I can't wait to get into, what are you enjoying or testing from the week?
- Speaker #1
I am enjoying, I know you're not going to like it, but I have to say it. Oh, sorry, you won't relate to it. Oh,
- Speaker #0
okay.
- Speaker #1
As listeners know, I love Real Housewives, etc. I rewatch them because there's nothing that would be better, so I just rewatch in a cycle. And New York is probably my favourite. No, New York is my favourite. But New York ended, they call it the OGs, kind of around COVID time. It got cancelled. Maybe a year or two ago, they brought it back with an all new cast.
- Speaker #0
Oh, yes, yes.
- Speaker #1
And it flopped. So they did two seasons. Apparently, it wasn't great. I think I started watching the first episode because I was so, like, devout to the originals. I was like, no, not for me. So then the other day I was like, you know what? I need something new. It's spring. Bring on a new cycle of something. So I started it. It is excellent. It's just different, ladies. I'm not really sure what the problem is. It's really good. It's so bitchy. The cast is totally new. There's like so much wealth. One woman on it is English and she lives on another planet. They like go away for the weekend. She's like, your house is freezing. Oh, my. God, it's so cold. And then one of the girls gives her a present. And then she tries on and goes, oh, my God, I look awful. This thing is disgusting. She's like, you know, Jennifer Coolidge in Friends.
- Speaker #0
Oh, can you believe I've never had any professional dance lessons?
- Speaker #1
She's like that, but she's being serious. And they're like, yeah, she's like, they're like, is she serious? And like, everything's a problem. Like, it's like she's just thinking out loud all the time. And your one Jenna Lyons is in it who... She was head of J.Crew for like a long time and she's like a power lesbian. She also has like a, is it an autoimmune disease? All these things and she's like a real power bitch and she talks about that too. And it's really good. If anyone here is listening who's having the same problem, maybe the kind listener who reached out saying, where do I start? Don't be afraid to go into New Era in New York. It's same, same, but different.
- Speaker #0
Oh, I'm glad you're like discovering a whole new world within the world.
- Speaker #1
Me too. Because, you know, I was kind of repeating the other one a lot.
- Speaker #0
I know it off my heart.
- Speaker #1
For a comfort watch. But this is just as comforting. It's just new people.
- Speaker #0
Same, same, but different.
- Speaker #1
Same, same, but different. Yeah.
- Speaker #0
That's great.
- Speaker #1
Not that you can relate because I know you don't watch it. No,
- Speaker #0
but I need some stuff to watch on Matt Leave. Some people said that the Australian one is really good because there's some people in it. Oh,
- Speaker #1
Jesus. I couldn't bear it with the accent.
- Speaker #0
Oh, you see, I love the Australian one. I don't mind. Well, I like. watched so much home and away i think i've been to oh my god were they talking so aggressively no way oh apparently brady and aaron were telling me that like there's one girl in it who's just so thick and it's really funny she gets loads loads of sayings wrong and i like the aussies because they're straight shooters i did see one it looks quite violent in like a catty way you see i'm gonna need stuff to fill my time so it could be something you watch yeah what about you gazzer I don't know if this is a short origin test, but um We kind of realized like how imminent the birth might be. So we were doing a lot of the like lastminute.com shopping on Amazon. So there's like a whole big bundle of boxes behind me. So that's making me feel a little bit more relaxed because I, we just.
- Speaker #1
What style have you gone with for your baby?
- Speaker #0
You can be like, what's it Rachel's sister and friends, the baby stylist?
- Speaker #1
Jill. Is it Jill or Amy? It's Jill.
- Speaker #0
oh no maybe it's Amy she's like what she's just a love people didn't like when I called them babies when I called them babies okay
- Speaker #1
I'm a baby stylist. People do pick color palettes for their baby, but I know you're not that kind of gal.
- Speaker #0
No, everything's just kind of...
- Speaker #1
Oh, it would have to be neutral.
- Speaker #0
Neutral, yeah, because we don't know. But I was chatting to Ash and she was like, Clary, have you thought about your labor look? And I was like, no, no.
- Speaker #1
See, that's the type of gal I'd like to talk to.
- Speaker #0
And I was like... What is your labor look? Well, she was like, well, yeah, it has to be dark just to... hide certain stains. It needs to be a button down. It needs to be a night dress because you can't be in pyjamas and being like Winnie the Pooh. That's wrong. I was like, wow, I'd never thought of this.
- Speaker #1
So it has to be dark, a button down, no trisers.
- Speaker #0
For like skin on skin and it has to be long so you're not walking around with your tush out.
- Speaker #1
With your bum bum. Okay.
- Speaker #0
So I got one on Amazon. It's fine.
- Speaker #1
What is it? Tell us about your labour luck.
- Speaker #0
It's just this like... slinky little number it's black it's just a black um like a nightdress with a button down it's exactly what she said so to get have you thought about your labor locket that is so great what's your labor look yeah because me and mick were like talking about it it was like oh god it really feels like santa's coming but also the germans it's like it's a scary excitement like a nervous yeah A nervous energy. So then I was like getting into this, like, oh, my God, we're not going to be able to do anything anymore. So like we went to we saw a play last weekend. We're going to two galleries on Saturday just to like stuff it all in because then come two weeks, we're going to be able to do nothing.
- Speaker #1
That's very cultural of you.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Who knows?
- Speaker #1
You are thespians, but like.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
Now tell me, what are people like with you in the theatre?
- Speaker #0
Very respectful. We did go to Cynthia Erivo in Dracula and... I think I was telling you.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, yeah.
- Speaker #0
We were sitting at the front of the balcony at a great, great height. And I didn't bring any Milky Ways, no sugary treats. Like I usually need a bubble because I get quite queasy. And this had a lot of sweeping camera angles. And oh my God, for like 45 minutes, I like blacked out. And this poor girl beside me, who was like clearly like an elf about Wicked Stan. And I was just like squirming beside her. She was so nice though. Like I dropped my credit card and she brought it back to me and I was like, oh thank you, I'm clearly not able.
- Speaker #1
Poor pet.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, most people really nice. It's just the seats are so uncomfortable.
- Speaker #1
Those seats need a revamp.
- Speaker #0
And it's like the back is like bent in so you're like being forced to sit forward.
- Speaker #1
Yes, and as two tall ladies, I'm 5'10", what are you? I'm
- Speaker #0
5'7 and a half and I'm like, I feel much taller.
- Speaker #1
You're not, no way are you 5'7 and a half. You were in the basketball crew. You're not. You're about 5'9", I'd say.
- Speaker #0
I know.
- Speaker #1
For tall ladies and whatever, yeah, tall men, but we're talking about ladies, your knees hit the front. Like, I love that it's an old theatre, but we need a bit of refurbishment. No,
- Speaker #0
it's for Victorian teeny people.
- Speaker #1
Victorian children.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
Not Victorian people. No. The bathrooms.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. They're so pokey.
- Speaker #1
And there's not enough. Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Never. At all. There's always a mad queue.
- Speaker #1
I went last week or the week before. And when you're in the middle of a queue for the bathroom, you're like, I have to go. I'm not going back to my seat until I get out of the bathroom. And then they do the alarm.
- Speaker #0
Oh, it'll start in one minute. It's live.
- Speaker #1
But you can see the queue. Everyone has to go to the bathroom.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Although, oh my God, this Baby on Board badge, I'm going to miss it when I have to retire it.
- Speaker #1
I'd keep it.
- Speaker #0
I was in the queue for the loo and all these women were like, go ahead, go ahead. And I was like, oh no, I'm just doing a precautionary pee. It's okay, ladies. Thank you. But like when people don't get up for me on the tube, I am so passive aggressive. The huffing and puffing that comes out of me.
- Speaker #1
Well, like rightly so.
- Speaker #0
Get out. Some people are just on their phones and they don't look up.
- Speaker #1
That's ridiculous.
- Speaker #0
You shouldn't be in that seat.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, I was in the queue for the bathroom in the theatre last week and there was a pregnant gal in front of me. And I was like, go push ahead. And she was like, no, it's honestly Grant. and then we started chatting and I was like how did you find it she was like uh honestly gran I couldn't have to travel that much for work and I was like oh great and I was like how is it on the tube and she was like some people fully will like look up and then look down and tell me I haven't seen you like men yeah and I was like is it that they've seen you like have they like she's like yeah yeah wow isn't that sick
- Speaker #0
I'd love to go around with a stick yeah and a bell shame like a warden yeah And I've had people, when I get on a sardini kind of over round or something, people have been like, sorry, no, I'll get, some people have been amazing though. And they've been like, sorry, I'll get him to get up. Do you need to sit down? Yeah. I was like, that girl needs to sit down. Will you get up? Get off your phone.
- Speaker #1
And then are they apologetic?
- Speaker #0
Yeah, they whimper. Yeah. They scurry off in their shame and embarrassment.
- Speaker #1
I've done that before and whoever it was, was like, oh, thank you very much. And then I was like, that's absolutely fine. Like looking at the guy. I made stand up like a big loser.
- Speaker #0
Just stand up like you're an able-bodied person.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Oh, God, that looked weird on the camera.
- Speaker #1
That was so donkey from Shrek.
- Speaker #0
I was like, so in slow motion. I was like, am I so tired that I'd like to leave it? Now,
- Speaker #1
moving on. I woke up to some amazing news on last Saturday, recording this on Thursday, and I was in Ireland at the time and my sister was there too and she came down to the kitchen and I was doing something for an event and she said, did you see the Justin Timberlake video got leaked?
- Speaker #0
Christmas came early.
- Speaker #1
My ears, I honestly, I was like, what? And she was like, the video has been released. almost died i was like has clara seen it and it was quite a busy weekend so i had to find some private time to watch it like uninterrupted the full like 18 minute one the one minute one isn't enough ps if you're that like you i have to say you know when you're talking to people around our age and they're like um it's super bowl for example i'm like oh my god you see the super well and they're like yeah and i was like you know this bit and then they're like what and they're but oh I only watched a few clips oh I have to say they're letting us down they're not real stans they're letting the millennials down no no but they're just letting us down like that's a Gen Z situation please stop it moving back I watched the full 18 minutes did you?
- Speaker #0
I watched a 10 minute one and another the one with the friend and that's my five minutes fair play you're pregnant and you don't have all day absolutely I couldn't find the full video, but I had, there was big long clips on.
- Speaker #1
I will send it to you.
- Speaker #0
Please.
- Speaker #1
Now, 18 minutes of different angles of Justin Timberlake from his 2024 arrest in Sag Harbor. Oh my God. We wished for this a few weeks ago. Because he went to court to file a petition to stop it from being released. And he won it. And we were like, oh, for God's sake, like, this video sounds so good.
- Speaker #0
White male power.
- Speaker #1
Anyway, between the jigs and the reels, as part of like softening his sentence, I suppose, or his punishment, the video was released. Whichever judge did that is an icon.
- Speaker #0
So sorry, to lessen his...
- Speaker #1
I believe so, yes.
- Speaker #0
That was part of the deal, to release the video. I believe so, yes. Oh my God, the law. What?
- Speaker #1
Yeah, so like at the time he did like a public service announcement. Then he went to court like recently. That like passed and approved. But then I believe it was as part of the deal, yes.
- Speaker #0
Bloody hell.
- Speaker #1
Because it was in such quick succession between him winning that.
- Speaker #0
What a hard negotiation tactic. Anyway, go on. I mean,
- Speaker #1
whoever did that's an icon.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
A real hoglet.
- Speaker #0
Release the tapes. Give us what we need.
- Speaker #1
I will. give you less community service if you release the drug tapes there's so much to unpick i haven't seen a lot of coverage of it on podcasts which is so weird i literally only found one for 10 minutes like all i want to do is talk about this i know yeah it was weird wasn't it there wasn't that much in any meeting and work i had on monday i was like have you seen the justin timberhawk tape do you know what i think it went down quite well in america i
- Speaker #0
think they were like he seems a bit stupid and like funny and like he wasn't aggressive.
- Speaker #1
So I saw, is it Joe Rogan, the bald guy?
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, I saw him and he's on his something and he's talking about it for five minutes and I only listened to the start and they were like, I don't see what the big issue is. He's a nice guy.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
He's not being aggressive. He's not causing a problem. I was like, okay. Like, let's call a spade a spade. He's hammered.
- Speaker #0
Completely. Like, it's so dangerous.
- Speaker #1
On whatever it is, I'm not sure what the substance is, but he is so...
- Speaker #0
It had to be more than drink. It had to be more.
- Speaker #1
Of course it was.
- Speaker #0
It seemed like a mushy high or like a weed vibe.
- Speaker #1
I was thinking a weed mushy, but then there was a bit of kind of alertness with potentially some coke.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, like he looked bewildered.
- Speaker #1
You know when they go up to the thing and he's looking out at them? It's a very... You know that meme with the fox? Tux on the side of the bed. When you try to wake up and you're sitting on the side of the bed. It was that.
- Speaker #0
Very much.
- Speaker #1
Like it was very startle. It was. I don't think they've released a Tux. He didn't do the breathalyzer test, did he?
- Speaker #0
No.
- Speaker #1
So I don't know how that works, but I feel like... If he did any of that, we would have been told what was in his system. Yeah. So I think he refused to do all that.
- Speaker #0
That's mad that you can refuse. You're the one who's committed the crime.
- Speaker #1
I think if you refuse, they immediately bring you to the station, I think.
- Speaker #0
Yes. Okay.
- Speaker #1
I could be making all this up, but I don't think I am.
- Speaker #0
That sounds right.
- Speaker #1
I think so.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
There's so many things to unpack when they're asking him, you know, what are you doing here? He's like, um, it's, It's hard to explain. I'm on a world tour. You're what? I'm Justin Timberlake. You're Justin Timberlake? Yeah, I'm Justin Timberlake. The cop you can tell doesn't really know who Justin Timberlake is, but just has, like, maybe the name.
- Speaker #0
Not a breeze. Also,
- Speaker #1
like, just say you're a musician.
- Speaker #0
Exactly
- Speaker #1
He kept just going, I'm on a world tour. Like, just say I'm a musician. I'm a performer. Like you have to fill it out for every visa.
- Speaker #0
But like I could go traveling for a year and say I'm on a world tour. Like it's it's actually quite vague. And it kind of presumes the cop knows more than he should. You know, it's like.
- Speaker #1
But I think that's what he was doing. Kind of wink, wink. I'm on a world tour.
- Speaker #0
It's so funny that that's your go to.
- Speaker #1
I'm on a world tour. He's so embarrassing.
- Speaker #0
You're in the Hamptons as well. You're not like. Oh,
- Speaker #1
sorry about that. Anyway, he's locked. The field sobriety, now I think they're ripping the piss out of him a bit.
- Speaker #0
They must have so much fun, those policemen at night time.
- Speaker #1
But like trying to do the one one thousand, two one thousand, three. Do I keep going? And then the officer is like, instead of just being like, put one foot in front of the other on this line, he goes, heel to toe, heel to toe, then put your heel on the toe of your other foot. And he's trying to. And like, to be fair, he's not describing it very well. Again, he fails that though. Like, I think they were laughing at him.
- Speaker #0
Oh, it'd be so hard. It's so hard not to snigger. These guys.
- Speaker #1
But they're definitely laughing. So good. When they bring him in, he's fully handcuffed. Oh, sorry, Forgive me. One of my notes. Who is Esty Stanley?
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
This icon who is like, oh my God. do you not know bye bye bye help help are you crying for help this is insane can i give him his phone his phone it's like are you crying for help mom she's like yes this is an emergency so i sent clara this during the week sorry let me find it for you it's very funny i love those while you're finding that um one of my favorite quotes from it was when he was doing the
- Speaker #0
the try to walk in a straight line he was like you guys this test are really hard oh my god you guys
- Speaker #1
I'm just trying to follow my friends home.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, but these tests are so hard.
- Speaker #1
These tests are really hard, guys. Like,
- Speaker #0
if you can't...
- Speaker #1
You guys.
- Speaker #0
If you can't put one foot in front of the other, why are you driving a car? As stupid and as hilarious as these videos are, like, it's so fucking dangerous.
- Speaker #1
Oh, totally. That's the point, which I'll get onto later in his sentencing PS.
- Speaker #0
Oh,
- Speaker #1
yeah. Esty Stanley, the girl who I think stole millions of people's hearts. This woman has so many things. She got her start as a stylist, working for Penelope Cruz, Lea Michele, Eva Mendes, Ellen Pompeo, and Justin Timberlake and Jessica Biel. She started in music video styling. She did a video for NSYNC. She's a longtime friend of Jessica Biel and styled her for her wedding to Justin Timberlake. She hosted their engagement party. She's also an interior designer.
- Speaker #0
What can't this gal do?
- Speaker #1
Lending her talents to homes belonging to stars like Lea Michele, Sophia Bush and Patrick Dempsey. Oh my God. Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen marked her first ever design job. And then what else has she done? She also opened a kid-friendly restaurant with Jessica Biel. And she wrote a book. She's a co-founder of Talent Agency.
- Speaker #0
Wow.
- Speaker #1
Among other businesses. She is a mom of two. This woman's an icon.
- Speaker #0
Multi-hyphenate.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, I just said like 10 things. So she's brilliant. And she's like, what the fuck is happening? Do you know? Bye, bye, bye. And then, you know, when she goes up to him and she's like, oh, can I give him the phone? And they're like, yeah, grand. And she goes up and she goes, they said, I only have 10 seconds to talk to you. I have your phone. Do you want it here? Would you like me to hold it? And he just goes, um. Answer.
- Speaker #0
Snap out of it, pal. But don't. give them your phone you don't know what could be in there you know yeah yeah absolutely from the epstein files or anything like don't get like yeah then they're in the precinct he's like y'all are treating me like a criminal man
- Speaker #1
Okay. And he's like chained to the desk.
- Speaker #0
Like you are a criminal.
- Speaker #1
It's quite awkward listening to the police officers being like, we respect you for respecting us. And I just find that really like annoying. And he's talking about having one martini. That's not true. Like, no way is that true.
- Speaker #0
Who could that happen to? You get that pissed off one martini.
- Speaker #1
No, no.
- Speaker #0
Was it a pint of martini?
- Speaker #1
Yeah, exactly. How big was the martini?
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
And then towards the end of the video, he's obviously reading. statement or whatever the thing and has to sign it and they've obviously marked him as like caucasian male or whatever and then he looks up at the officer after just throwing a hissy fit the whole time and goes white i'm only kidding man oh
- Speaker #0
my god he's still like funny when he's like that pissed and then they're putting him into the cell and he's like you're putting me in here
- Speaker #1
From start to finish, my God, it was an amazing piece of film.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, get that in the Oscars.
- Speaker #1
Totally. They reached a settlement for this whole thing. Yeah. But the part of the settlement was that it was released last week. And listen to this sentence. He pleaded guilty to impaired driving in September 24 and agreed to a $500 fine, 25 hours of community service and a 90-day suspension of his license. If that was a Joe Bloggs, that's not what would happen. $500?
- Speaker #0
To a multi-millionaire? Yes. Who's on a world tour?
- Speaker #1
25 hours of community service. You could do that in three days. And a 90-day suspension of his license. He's grand. He can just get private cars everywhere.
- Speaker #0
Which is what he should have done to begin with.
- Speaker #1
I think it's such an unjust. It's outrageous.
- Speaker #0
Much like his first album. What was that called? Unjustified or something? Or no, Justified.
- Speaker #1
Justified.
- Speaker #0
That is baloney.
- Speaker #1
Isn't it?
- Speaker #0
Like, he could have killed someone. like This lenient sentencing is just so annoying.
- Speaker #1
Like it's not impaired driving. Like he's very not with it.
- Speaker #0
And I appreciate that he's in some sleepy town, but who cares? What if he crashed and killed someone?
- Speaker #1
But there are the places that it happens.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. These like country roads.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
I just don't understand why they don't hammer fist on people doing that. Because like we're, I think we're of the generation that grew up on the really bad drink driving ads that were so graphic.
- Speaker #1
Oh, they were so sick.
- Speaker #0
So like it literally educated in one generation. the drink driving to no drink driving. You know, I don't know anyone who has, who would get behind the wheel of the car because of those ads. It's just like when the punishments are so lenient, then what message is that sending? Keep going out and drinking and driving. To other people, I mean, you know, if he just gets all scot-free. Yes, he's got the kind of worldwide public humiliation, but like loads of people's tapes get released. So it's your fault for committing the crime in the first place. Get a fucking Uber. Get a private driver. You can afford it. You're on a world tour. You're a bajillionaire.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, I mean, I think he's just very downhill.
- Speaker #0
Oh, what a skis. Slimebag bull getting away with it.
- Speaker #1
I know.
- Speaker #0
What is Jessica Biel doing? What is she doing? Get away from that man.
- Speaker #1
Sorry, so it talks about their like really rocky... Let me find where I have it. Oh, so the 2019 thing was he was holding hands with that actress.
- Speaker #0
Yes. And they don't they have something in there. They have something in their prenup about cheating. Like she gets. Oh, go on. He gets payouts if he cheats.
- Speaker #1
That's iconic.
- Speaker #0
Let me Google that while you tell me.
- Speaker #1
And then he said during Covid him and Jessica Biel were struggling with 24 hour parenting, which he got in a lot of trouble for. Then the Britney Spears memoir was released. Then he said he had Lyme's disease after his world tour had loads of issues.
- Speaker #0
Every celebrity blames Lyme's disease. They're not hanging out in fields with long grass and deer. Like, how do they all have Lyme's disease?
- Speaker #1
Is it because of where they live?
- Speaker #0
I don't know. It's weird, the amount of celebrities that have it. Like, Justin Bieber has it. Bella Hadid. Like, loads of celebrities do. There's real conspiracy around it. Sorry, there's a cheating clause in the prenup, which mandates a penalty of $500,000 to $750,000 if Timberlake is unfaithful. each time I wonder yeah I wonder what holding hands gets you but if that's in your prenup like are you just anticipating that yeah it's mental and you know Nicole okay I know you think I'm like weirdly obsessed with this relationship but kind of up Nicole Kidman and um what's the hair straightener guy Keith Urban they had a thing in their prenup where he got a payout for not doing coke sorry yes yes so when they divorced He gets the payout because he kept clean. Where do you think he's going to spend that money? It's ridiculous.
- Speaker #1
Also, how do you do that? Weekly testing or something?
- Speaker #0
Yeah, exactly. Paying you to stay sober. Who says romance is dead?
- Speaker #1
Oh God, that's so awful, isn't it? It's so unromantic.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Anyway, I derailed that with the prenup.
- Speaker #1
No, I was just saying they've had a rocky road.
- Speaker #0
Well, I just don't understand why you wouldn't just divorce him. It just doesn't seem like it's a...
- Speaker #1
I'd say she's mortified.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. He's done nothing but embarrass you for quite some time.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. Anyway, I know it's not funny because it's during driving. Thank God no one was hurt. But if you do need to pick me up, the video is really entertaining.
- Speaker #0
It's really good. I'm just so happy we got them.
- Speaker #1
I also just don't know why no one else is covering it, really, because it's like, it's so good.
- Speaker #0
The Americans don't mind it. I think it's like, oh, he's kind of funny again. I think it's done more to... benefit his relation his his public persona than it has to dampen yes people are laughing at him but they're like oh he's kind of just a goofy drunk it's mad though i don't understand why more people aren't scathing him putting him in stocks i mean i'd say jessica b ellis i'd love to see that man's demise i really would he really gets under my skin but i feel like he did five
- Speaker #1
times i know it's like there's nothing he can't do now he already demised so many times britney
- Speaker #0
drink driving, bad tunics, like what more? Appropriating black culture, beatboxing.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, yeah. He was totally humiliated.
- Speaker #0
Like asking people to pay to come to his gigs and then not singing and just asking the crowd to sing. You know, there's so much stuff.
- Speaker #1
I think it's quite apparent, like... I don't think he wants to perform a world tour. Like his energy is not, it's not a good energy. I saw something and they were like.
- Speaker #0
It's not a new energy.
- Speaker #1
But it's not a like, oh my buzzing. It's like, I'm on a world tour. He doesn't want to be on the world tour. I don't think.
- Speaker #0
A cash grab. Perfect example, Hilary Duff. She was so big, same time. You know, she comes back. She really embraces her past, but has great new music. And it's a lovely symbiosis of the two, old and new. Looks great. Fashion's amazing. Comes back with like raw, unfiltered songs. You know, new, fresh energy. Justin is just like, I got that feeling inside my bones. That's it. Done. Just rehashing the old. Although I was listening to Trevor Nelson as I do every week.
- Speaker #1
Obviously.
- Speaker #0
He kicked off the show last week or some week. And it was NSYNC girlfriend Fee Chanel. oh it's excellent oh bring back those days like what a fucking tune oh it's just such a good song bring where is those those music days that's why i love teen allison so much yeah i wonder how he is he's fucking great 30 years in the bbc still rocking it yeah we don't need to worry about trevor allison that's that's one thing for sure your baby will be such a trevor allison's jam oh yeah well sorry your baby will have heard a lot of trevor allison you I think it's in like Save the Last Dance come out like the nightclub scenes oh my god doing the head thing the Julia Stiles head thing oh 100% because you know the way they say like play music to the baby and then when they come out they'll have recognised it I was like okay so it's going to be he'll think Trevor Nelson is his father or she he or she will think Trevor Nelson is their father what a dream well we actually did we We took a break from all the ordering online. We're like, oh, let's do the birth playlist. Then we did one and it's all Celine.
- Speaker #1
And we were like,
- Speaker #0
I really hope the midwives and people don't think that we're like taking the piss. But like she has so many like pump up songs that it was like, this could be amazing. And it's like, I might ruin Celine for the rest of my life. But look, we have a backup.
- Speaker #1
Are you allowed to play music? Yeah. Whatever you want.
- Speaker #0
Whatever you want. Yeah.
- Speaker #1
you just hook it up oh my god I'd say they've heard some gas stuff yeah that's really funny imagine people pouring to Trevor Nelson's
- Speaker #0
Sunday show on one extra that sounds really calming
- Speaker #1
I saw um Was it when Kim Kardashian was on Khloe's podcast? Kanye West put on, I think, Bohemian Rhapsody when North is. Oh, yeah. Which is quite chaotic.
- Speaker #0
And considering who North is now, that kind of makes a lot of sense. So you do have to be careful.
- Speaker #1
That's what Kim says.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
She's like, does that make so much sense? It's very funny.
- Speaker #0
So I wonder what will happen to Celine, baby.
- Speaker #1
Oh, my God. I can't wait to hear what you end up playing.
- Speaker #0
Oh, this is so good. Very funny. Okay, so I came across a image over the weekend and I've since found out that it was AI, but it was like this photo of Justin Bieber and Usher squaring up to each other. And in the background, Beyonce's like, what? Anyway, it looks so real, which made me so scared. Anyway, it was to highlight a story that did come out about Beyonce and Jay-Z held an Oscars after party. And apparently Usher and Justin Bieber had a heated exchange.
- Speaker #1
Okay.
- Speaker #0
Apparently Usher approached Bieber angrily at the party and it was like intense, but it wasn't physical. They were kind of like squaring up against each other. And then that was kind of it. Then Da Brat, do you remember her from the 90s?
- Speaker #1
Da Brat?
- Speaker #0
Da Brat. Yeah. She was like, she'd feature on a lot of like Missy Elliott stuff. She's a rapper.
- Speaker #1
No. Okay. Go on.
- Speaker #0
She was on the Ricky Smiley show and she was like saying like, oh, it's been overblown, taken out of context. It was like a heated exchange. they love each other. There's no bad blood, blah, blah. But she's speaking on Usher's behalf. So I don't think we'll ever really find out what happened there. There's not enough eyewitness. And I'd say if you go to a Jay-Z and Beyonce party, you're ND'd up, what are they called? ND8, up to your eyeballs.
- Speaker #1
How funny is the AI image there with Beyonce in the background? And she's like, what? With a glass of wine.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, I love the glass of wine.
- Speaker #1
It's great.
- Speaker #0
I really fell for it. But then I was like, obviously it's AI when nobody else reports on it, duh.
- Speaker #1
But still, it's so lifelike.
- Speaker #0
So rewinding back, Usher was a mentor to Bieber in his early career, as was Scooter Braun. And their very like mentor-y Usher was like, he's like a child to me, blah, But like now, current relationship, it's completely wiped. Apparently, Usher invited Bieber to perform the Super Bowl halftime show. Bieber declined, said he wasn't feeling it. So, yeah, it seems like Bieber is definitely, whatever's going on with Bieber, we've touched on episodes in the past. Like something is like he's definitely trying to like sever ties with like his past or like, you know, there's a bit of a darkness there with little Bieber.
- Speaker #1
A darkness, though, that's kind of like brushed under the rug like all the time.
- Speaker #0
There's a lot of trauma.
- Speaker #1
There'll be loads of stuff of him crying on the side of the road.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
Like sitting down in a car park and stuff like that. And like his wife trying to comfort him and stuff. And there's loads of stuff. And do you remember that really weird video where he was at some party and he was making really weird facial expressions as if he was on something. But it was really weird to look at.
- Speaker #0
Yes.
- Speaker #1
And it's like they put these things out.
- Speaker #0
And it was really skinny.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, they put these things out and then there's no...
- Speaker #0
Follow up.
- Speaker #1
Not that there has to be follow up, but...
- Speaker #0
Or like a welfare check.
- Speaker #1
Well, yes.
- Speaker #0
Yeah,
- Speaker #1
quite frankly, because then he goes with her to different stuff, to like red carpets. It's just quite.
- Speaker #0
He's like closing doors on her. Yeah, it's a very. And then he goes and releases this like amazing album.
- Speaker #1
It's quite irresponsible.
- Speaker #0
Very like Britney Spears or something.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
It's interesting. No welfare check. But then moving away from Justin and back to Usher, who I also think is dealing with his own diddy trauma, because he was also under the wing of. Diddy when he was a similar age or like a bit older. Usher has just done an interview with Forbes and they have this thing called The Enterprise Zone. And he starts talking and defending Diddy. Why you choose now to come out? and publicly defend him is beyond me. But he said, like, I think certain people are prosecuted and maybe not recognised for the greatness that they offer. I don't have anything negative to say about Sean Combs. My experience was not what the world has seen and how he's been, you know, misrepresented. I just think there's enough proof that Diddy did some bad things. Did you not see the 50 Cent documentary on Netflix? Did you not see the CNN clips of him beating up Cassie? That speaks to me of like some kind of weird victim trauma processing mind block PTSD. I'm obviously not a doctor, but...
- Speaker #1
Like Stockholm syndrome.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Oh, that's the word. Yes, yes. And he goes, I'm not saying that every man is perfect. I'm not saying that all of us don't have flaws, but I can't with any sense of humanity. And he says this really earnestly. not recognize the valuable contributions that this man has made for us as black entrepreneurs, for us as people who transition culture and ideas into something that's tangible and becomes a business. So many people benefited from what he created and I acknowledge that. And that's why I see him as a legacy. Is Diddy the only example of like black excellence? Is Diddy the only example of like an entrepreneur who's done well? He stood on a lot of necks to get where he was. Like, I just feel like we're rehashing something that's already been set in stone. Like, why? Why are you defending him? It's very unusual. Like, did he sympathise or do you really want it to be known as that? Like, what's the point of coming out and saying that, even if you think it?
- Speaker #1
Yeah, it's like he didn't really think about it, maybe.
- Speaker #0
Like, he spends the whole half of the interview talking about it. Misrepresented. Are you joking me? And there were so many contributors in that documentary who were, like, lining up to say... Well, he came into my office with a baseball bat and told me to sign over my shares in the company. Like, how is that like a good? So I think anyway, it feels like Roche is very much speaking from a trauma space and not. He can't see the wood from the trees, maybe.
- Speaker #1
I'm just shocked he said it out loud, even if he thinks it.
- Speaker #0
Is he at gunpoint? Metaphorical, of course. Did he say to him? say some nice stuff about me I'm getting out of prison soon.
- Speaker #1
Usher though isn't a controversial figure.
- Speaker #0
All he does is twirl and do some great moves on the dance floor a bit of like genuine pony dancing and everyone loves him.
- Speaker #1
He was with um Chili is that who he was with for a while?
- Speaker #0
Yeah cheated on her a few times but like yeah he's not a he's he doesn't come out and say these big things so anyway coupled with the alleged heated exchange. With Bieber, it just feels like there's something, there's something bubbling here that might come out, but I just love to know what it is. Obviously, like the Forbes interview, Forbes is all about like money and business and stocks and growing and blah, blah. So if you're on there talking about being an entrepreneur and being successful and being influential, like, yes, Diddy was a big influence on your life, but like you could pick so many other people that arms. that you're not defending a like a criminal who is in jail and just by going you're kind of diminishing it by going oh he's not perfect everyone has flaws it's like uh yeah and i think those flaws are pretty intrinsic into who that man is so why are we back here it's a weird time to say it
- Speaker #1
He definitely wasn't advised to say it. Like, I think he said it of his own free will. He's also quite a quiet celebrity. Like, he's not one to be...
- Speaker #0
Very.
- Speaker #1
You know, like, he's not really in the headlines.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
He's super cute.
- Speaker #0
Not anymore. Now, I just... Well,
- Speaker #1
not after that,
- Speaker #0
yeah. He's aged like a fine wine.
- Speaker #1
I would say he hasn't aged. Yeah,
- Speaker #0
I'd say he's Benjamin Buttoning in front of our very eyes.
- Speaker #1
Oh, stunning.
- Speaker #0
He looks... like better now than he ever did. He's got like the J-Lo potion.
- Speaker #1
That elixir. He does.
- Speaker #0
Not that like we have really the right to know, but the Justin and Usher pieces of the Diddy puzzle are the last bits that have like, that were never really tied up because they clearly- I don't think they'll ever be tied up. No, until they're ready to tell their story. But this is kind of like a, maybe a bubbling of that. Yeah, I thought it was absolutely wild.
- Speaker #1
I'm annoyed the AI image isn't true.
- Speaker #0
I know it was so scarily accurate.
- Speaker #1
It was a nice visual.
- Speaker #0
it was loved to be at that party anyway so before we go I believe you have a recommendation
- Speaker #1
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- Speaker #0
Oh, wow.
- Speaker #1
The sheet masks are unreal, but she has loads of bits. And I obviously, we're both Sculpted fans.
- Speaker #0
Yes.
- Speaker #1
And I would recommend these very much. So Poco sheet masks. Is it Poco Beauty or Poco, just Poco? Pick Poco anyway. It's lovely.
- Speaker #0
Love that. I've sensitive skin as well, so definitely want to try that.
- Speaker #1
You could put them on with your pregnancy or with your labour look.
- Speaker #0
Yes.
- Speaker #1
Yes. Imagine the baby came out and you had a full sheet mask on.
- Speaker #0
Looked like a scream mask, yeah.
- Speaker #1
Gazza, we obviously have a different type of ending this week. Over to you.
- Speaker #0
So Hogg is going on mat leave. I'm very sad to say goodbye for a while, but we'll be back in the autumn. maybe for a September issue. And we look forward to giggling and gossing with you then. So do stay tuned. Follow or subscribe us. So, you know, when we're back or get us on Instagram or whatevs. But we will miss you dearly. There'll be a baby hoglet waiting at the trough of gossip. It's not say goodbye, but it's only a little like, see you later, not goodbye.
- Speaker #1
It's a little hiatus for you to have your gorgeous child. On behalf of me and all the... Hog listeners, we're all so excited for you. You're going to be an amazing mum, as is Mick. He's absolutely fabulous. We're giving you loads of positive energy and you're going to do great.
- Speaker #0
Oh, thank you.
- Speaker #1
Sophie is very proud of Gazza. You're going to be great. I can't wait to meet the little shaman.
- Speaker #0
The little fella,
- Speaker #1
little gal, I don't know. But you're going to be great. You've been an unbelievable pregnant lady. Let me tell you.
- Speaker #0
I don't feel it, so thank you. It's nice to hear.
- Speaker #1
You look gorgeous. You just took it in your stride. You're really inspirational. Oh,
- Speaker #0
really?
- Speaker #1
Yeah, I mean it. Me and my sister say it all the time.
- Speaker #0
Oh.
- Speaker #1
So make sure you send Gazza some soft, positive, relaxing energy for the coming weeks. And we'll catch you on the other side, ladies. Yay A little hiatus. It'll make you miss us even more. one more big cheer for Clara. Oink, oink. Aw,
- Speaker #0
thank you. That was gorge.