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From Paris to Berlin and every disco we get in, we are Hoglets for Goss. Hoglets for Goss, when we're thinking of you and all the goss we can serve you, we are Hoglets for Goss. Hello! I heard that song at a wedding over the weekend and it really brought me some joy. It is House of Gossip with myself, Clara Galvin and... Sophie Lyons, it is your weekly dose of pop culture nourishment. Sophie, how are you?
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Do you know what's such a good song? You know, I'm sweet but psycho.
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Oh yeah, Ava Max.
- Speaker #1
Oh, she's sweet but psycho.
- Speaker #0
That brings me back when I used to work in radio and literally on the air every hour. Oh, she's sweet but psycho.
- Speaker #1
Such a beast. I'm great, Clara. How are you getting on?
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I'm very, very, very, very well. It is a rainy, cloudy day in July and we are alive.
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Likewise.
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So,
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Roger,
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let's kick it off with what you're loving or hating. What has been lifting you up or bringing you down this week?
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I've three, but I'm going to go through them really quickly. I'll do the negative first and then two better ones. So the negative is, did you say to me last week about people playing bubble shooter on the tube?
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Yeah, Candy Crush.
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Candy Crush. I just saw someone there this morning doing it at like eight o'clock in the morning. Stop it. It's so like.
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Read a book.
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I'm all about relaxing, but not at 8am in the morning playing a video game. And she was like 40. I think it really, if you're doing it, you need to re-evaluate what you're doing. Waste of time, waste of battery, waste of energy.
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Waste of dopamine.
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Seriously. Secondly. This will be out on Tuesday, so we're recording on Friday, so the Euros final, I'm sure you know, Clara, is on Sunday and England are in the final. And obviously from like our heritage and our roots and stuff, I just wouldn't say, you know, come on, England or whatever.
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Yeah.
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But I love the song Football's Coming Home.
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Yeah, it is great.
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That song is the best song. Football's coming home. she's coming now did I sing this last year?
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definitely yeah
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I think I did I love it so much I think it is such a quality tune and should be sang all year round and the third the Gladiator trailer is out with Paul Meskell we both shared it with each other at the same time whoa like that was like a brainwave unagi yeah that
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often happens that's happened happened with something else before but then now yeah
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It was like telepathic. I mark my words, that will be the number one purchased like sex costume, bedroom, boudoir wear from October onwards for the year. I guarantee.
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People are going to be hock toing all over Gladiator.
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Speaking of, I had someone get on to me who I'm friends with and they were telling me they've hock to it.
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Straight from the field.
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Yeah. She said, sorry, they. Just to keep them anonymous. They said they did it with a boyfriend. They wouldn't do it on a one night stand. Yeah, you do feel kind of dirty doing it.
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Yes.
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Yeah, but I can see a lot of people octoing mutually in gladiator costumes. Lest us think about the Pepsi Max ad with Britney, Pink, Bae.
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like they started all that like wow yeah I can see it's a resurgence it's a renaissance it's so good it looks amazing although my one critique is the trailer's too long and it gives you loads of it's like Amazon Prime levels lengths Amazon Prime level needs to shut it just give us you're giving us the whole movie you're giving us the cliff notes they basically give you a scene yeah just give us a tease yeah I agree oh
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but it was very sexy
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Oh, I mean, yeah, I'm hoping by November I'll have forgotten about it and be like, I cannot wait.
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I can't really remember. I was just like looking at it being like, wow, this is so graphic.
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It's like your rage is your superpower.
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What is the accent?
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I think it's just like a made up Roman accent where it's like quite British.
- Speaker #1
It's English.
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But that's what they all do with these like ancient Roman stuff. It's like they're all British. It's like these guys were speaking Latin and... definitely didn't have a British accent it's like the Brits are trying to own it I wonder who gave him that note
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On the accent.
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It was very Maximus Desmos, Meridius accent. Like that kind of global citizen, but kind of British accent.
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I've never seen the original, so I need to watch it. What? I know. Yeah, I know. I know. No, I know. I know. It's on my list. It's on my list. I really like Russell Crowe.
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You've never seen it. Clara,
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please.
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Please, Clara. You've never seen Titanic?
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No, it's not. It's not the same thing.
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It's the boy Titanic.
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I was talking to someone and they had never seen Sound of Music. I think that's...
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That's a bit like, did you have a childhood?
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Sorry, yeah. Where did you come from? Anyway, Gladiator's on my list. And mark my words, it will be a highly purchased costume.
- Speaker #0
Yes. For the bedroom.
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Myself included. Clara?
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This week, J'Adore-ing, I'm home. And my, oh my, am I getting an obscene amount of baby time.
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Oh,
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okay. There's been an array of babies. Well, my friend Rob called it a baby apocalypse. And I've met so many people on their Matt and Pat leave. And I am loving it. It's just so much squidgy, like cuddles. And it's just been amazing.
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A babynado.
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Babynado! Oh, like I was at lunch yesterday and there was just like babies everywhere, just getting lots of cuddles. It's just so soothing and their little smells and their big blue eyes. It's just too much.
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I haven't reached that yet. But one of my good friends is about to have, about to have one. And that'll probably be my first close baby connection.
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Yeah. And then my other j'adore is, was that my dear friend Alex and Leanne's wedding on Saturday. It was in the Grayson. We're all there partying the night away. The roof was like blowing off the place. People were just like erupting, you know, and you're like, hi, hi, we have to dance. It was like just one of those, like there was a spell on the room that everyone was just like. bouncing they weren't walking you know that kind of vibe there was just like so much like energy and love someone was doing like a mic check and I thought like a speech was going to happen and then they dropped the mic and it was like that you don't get that noise like that feedback and then everyone went quiet and I looked and she was like if you change your mind I'm the first in line take a chance on me and then up the stairs another girl comes in she's like take a chance on me and it was an ABBA tribute band for an hour and a half. I melted. I had no voice the next day. I was drinking margaritas and singing my head off. I was like literally...
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That's like what happens when you die. Yeah.
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It was... And there was these two girlies dressed up as ABBA. It was just... They just were the two women. And oh my God, it was sublime. They just did ABBA Gold.
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That's a party start.
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And like nobody knew, just Alex and Leanne. Not even their families. So good.
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That's a way to get a...
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the party going isn't it yeah such a good idea for weddings so surprise Abba tribute acts and apparently they're a full band but the they just took the two ladies because the Grayson was quite small that sounds sensational I haven't been into the Grayson it's really good great weddings event space and so I've had two two weddings there and a 30th and like there's something I don't know in the walls there that like all of the parties have just been like everyone's kind of like yeah so anyway babies and Abba J'adore.
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Baba.
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Baba.
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Amazing. I'm in marketing in case you didn't know. No. On to the meaty section, Gasser. What do you have for me this week?
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I know, like, one of my 2024 predictions was that Ben and Jen weren't going to make it and their whole romance is a sham.
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And I did say that was garbage.
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I don't feel like I'm shitting on J-Lo the whole time, but, like, it's not been a good year for Jenny from the block. Like, it's just...
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It's only July as well.
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It's only July. Oh, my God,
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it's only July.
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But, like, I don't want to, like, shit on their relationship because, like, it would be so good. At the beginning of the year, it just felt very forced and it was like, This is my PR narrative. I'm back with my nostalgic sweetheart. And, you know, we will make this work without actually, like, focusing on the relationship. So there's been, like, divorce rumors for, like, God knows how long.
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Yeah, can you fill me in on what's actually happening now? Because I don't know.
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Okay, so they have been spotted wearing, not wearing their wedding rings constantly. Can't really keep up with that. They're going to, like, graduations of each other's kids. Jen Garner is calling into the house. You've Matt Damon getting really involved. He's like trying to keep Ben on the straight and narrow. He's getting him to co-star in a new crime thriller called R.I.P. with him. Just like keep him away from the booze and his many, many back tattooed dragon demons. So they've been trying to sell their home. off the market privately for ages, but they can't get rid of it. So now for one month only, it's going on the market.
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This is their shared home.
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Yeah. If you're trying to keep your like looming divorce a secret, publicly being seen with letting agents and realtors and all that, like, it's just very like, yeah, I don't understand why they won't just come out and just say or something. Maybe it's just too hard, but it's just like, I think it feeds the tabloids. discussions and everybody talking about them. So the house is only going to be on the market for one month. It's 38,000 square feet, which I don't know, kind of means nothing to me. So to put it into perspective, it's 12 bedrooms, 24 bathrooms. It's on the market for 68 million, which is eight more million than what they pay for it. And they pay for it in cash, which is crazy. Who has 60 million under their bed? Which is so weird.
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Sorry, when did they buy the home?
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Only two years ago.
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Sorry, can I ask, what do we think's happening?
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So they're saying that Ben never liked the home and he was unhappy about the purchase and that it's too far away from his kids and even J-Lo thinks that it's too big. So they could just be trying to sell it to like downsize. But she went to Europe. I love how the Americans just go to Europe.
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I was in Europe.
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I was in Europe. Like they say, it's like... Like, no, there's like so many countries. While he was moving out and he's living in a rental property not too far away, 30 minute driveway. So they're not saying anything, but like actions are speaking much louder. But like when J-Lo says that it's too big, I'm talking five acres, a 5,000 square foot guest penthouse. For God's sake. A caretaker's house, a two bedroom guest house.
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Caretaker house sounds creepy no matter how nice it is.
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Right. And also, like, if you've got 12 bedrooms, why do you have a guest house? That's just how many people are staying over. 12 car garage, parking for 80 vehicles.
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Are they planning on having a conference every day? This is so...
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Exactly. It's like a hotel. There's a pool, an L-shaped pool that goes around one of the corners of the house. There's a basketball court, a pickleball court, a lounge, a bar and a boxing ring and a gym. So... What?
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That sounds like a hotel.
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It doesn't. Just sell it to like the Hiltons or like Four Seasons.
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What are your thoughts? Are you thinking they got too excited and got something and now they're like, it's too big. We don't need that space. We need to get something smaller where we can actually talk to each other. Do you think the marriage is over?
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I think there's no smoke without a fire. I would believe that like as Hollywood homes go, this is like insanely big. Like you would be a 12 bedroom home. You wouldn't even know if somebody else was in the house. Like, it's a bit too big, but like, they've been seen wearing and not wearing their wedding rings a lot.
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Both have, doing and not doing it.
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They're nearly at their two-year anniversary of their wedding, and you know what you're doing when you're caught in public. The paparazzis follow them, and they get really annoyed by it, and that's totally fair enough. But you know if you're, like, wearing your wedding ring, what message that sends, and if you're not wearing it. Correct. So I think there are, like, a lot of, like, subtle hints. And I just think... You would be denying it a bit more if it was true. But if you're not on the same page, like, you know, if you're not getting on with your husband or your wife or whatever, you would. It would be very hard to be like, OK, hey, can you just come to this? Like, can we just put on a brave face or whatever? So it sounds like they're really going through it.
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And he's so cranky. He's so cranky. He's so cranky. And she's all about aesthetics.
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Exactly. But I also think like from that documentary, that ridiculous piece of.
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What was it called? The greatest love story ever made, isn't it?
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Never told.
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Never told.
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And turns out there's not much to tell. It's gone above. But from that, like, you know, she, and we've talked about the podcast before, like, she showed basically, she exposed his love letters and diaries letters to her, to her whole writing team of like 20 people.
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I know. It's like they got too excited that they were back together because didn't they get back together very soon after she broke up with A-Rod?
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Like, really quickly. This woman's never been sick.
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I'm thinking they just, we've all done it. You get too excited. You put too many expectations on it. And then it comes back and hits you in the face. We've all happened to all of us. Isn't that terrible though, that we can't just go with our dreams?
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I know. But then also like, I think when, you know, sometimes when like couples very publicly are like all about like Instagram, showing how great we are, you know, it's all like a front. So then when things go wrong, it's like, oh, there's a crack in that perfection.
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It's obvious.
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You know, and like sometimes it's like,
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you know, but like.
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Go on holiday and like spend some time together rather than worrying about like this image.
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I know, but do you not think like women naturally. are like programmed to not get their hopes up about guys yeah they meet a guy it's awful like you can't just be like oh my god it's amazing you have to be like oh I don't want to get too excited like why that's awful yeah and she's gone the other way and been like and then it's hitting her in the face okay it's the nostalgia and like getting caught up in the whirlwind of like we're back together and that's great but
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there's also like they're ignoring from what I saw in the documentary they're ignoring like key core values Like he values privacy. She does not. He values, you know, alone time and having something for themselves. She does not. You know, she needs to be with somebody who loves being as sparkly as she does and loves being as like, you know, out there. Like, I just think he's too private a person. And like, he's there slagging her for like, oh, you're getting older, but the guys in your videos are getting younger. And like, I feel like at a core level. they've changed a lot and it's the reason their bedrock isn't the same no their foundations are rocky and then they tried to coat over with the reunion yeah I just think she needs to be I just think it's a mismatch and like that's no one's fault
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I'd be interested to see now what happens because I
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I keep just being like what's happened I have no idea nothing's telling me anything and it's kind of gone on and on and on since like I'm going to say March like it feels like it's kind of like oh god like just just call it lads That's exactly what needs to happen.
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End your marriage.
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End your marriage for God's sake. We're sick of waiting. I just think it's too it's too much like back and forth.
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Activate the prenup.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Call your lawyers.
- Speaker #1
Also sorry can we just say like Jennifer Garner really is like such a shining beacon of hope for him. She seems so great.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they got back together.
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She's way too good for him.
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Yeah true sorry. Actually great call.
- Speaker #1
She seems so solid and great. I think she's a boyfriend.
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Good. sorry you're dead right she deserves way better absolutely dragging her down he's crying he's a craggy little shit now sorry I forgot to mention this at the top of the hour at the top of the show I have just hello I'm Clara Kavner yeah very brief update on the what we were talking about last week with Gwyneth Paltrow and the catastrophic D so I know I know obviously we were all waiting for an update but Hashtag catastrophic D. The origins of the story, so who were leaking it in the first place, Popitch. So in their recent newsletter, have given a bit of an update. Would you like to hear? Go on. Okay, here we go. Ever since the Fenton Hamptons crapper was unveiled as celebrity barnacle, Derek Blaisberg. Oh,
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for God's sake.
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Gwyneth Paltrow has come in for quite a bit of flack. Society types are appalled she'd break a cardinal rule of hosting. and blab about her guest gastrointestinal indiscretion, which is exactly what we were talking about last week. But in fairness to Gwennie, the leak may not have been her. I take it all back. So Gwyneth was lunching with Oprah Winfrey and Jerry Seinfeld when her irate housekeeper called, shouting loudly about the horrors she discovered, yelling about how much she hates that fucking friend of hers, and most damning, complaining about the tip that had been left at the scene of the crime.
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He left a tip?
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He left the mess on a tip. Oh, Derek.
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Has he just stayed silent?
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Yeah, there's nothing on his Instagram. He's just carrying on as normal.
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Calling someone a celebrity barnacle is unbelievable.
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Journalism.
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Snaps for them.
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They should win some kind of journalistic award.
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The term barnacle describes someone like that so well. It's like a barnacle on a whale.
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Yeah.
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Like they can't ever leave from it. No.
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Yeah. So.
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Wow. What an upstate on the catastrophic D.
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Yeah. Reporting live from the Hamptons.
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Reporting live from the toilet.
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From the bed. Back to you Sophie. Now tell me all.
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I saw this last night, we're recording on a Friday, and I saw this last night, and there's this wedding that's happening next, sorry, this weekend in India. And I saw that Kim and Khloe Kardashian had just arrived in Mumbai, and I was like, I wonder whose wedding they're going to.
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They're not going!
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Yeah, no, definitely a paid gig. Yeah. Yeah. So I looked it up, right? It's this Indian billionaire, second name is Ambani, and it's his son, who's 29. So he's marrying the daughter of an Indian pharmaceutical tycoon. Whoa. Okay, so they're spending million on the wedding this weekend. So Mark Zuckerberg is going, Bill Gates and Hillary Clinton.
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Would they all be paid to go?
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I think so, yeah.
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I did read a while ago that they're like the ninth richest family or like they're in the top 10 of the richest families in India, which is like next level.
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Colossal, Ralph.
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Yeah.
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I just, I do think these are paid guests. Yeah.
- Speaker #0
If you're spending a hundred million, surely some of that goes on fucking Hillary.
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That's a paid gig, especially for the Kardashians. A hundred percent, that's a paid gig. Yeah. So in 2018, the same dad threw a wedding that cost 80 million. And that was the most expensive wedding India has ever seen. Beyonce performed at it.
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Oh my God.
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And the guests attended a reception in Lake Como, Mumbai and Rajasthan. I know. So the invites for this one cost 7,000 pounds each.
- Speaker #0
What?
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Sorry. They had some like some gold or something. Yeah. The pre-party Justin Bieber performed. Adele and Drake.
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This is all, this has happened. Adele, Drake.
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At their pre-wedding in March. So it's a total of 250 million. They did in March where Rihanna performed for 5 million pounds for a 90 minute appearance. Fuck. I know. That's insane. And then they've also gone a luxury cruise liner. Four Day Mediterranean Cruise, Katy Perry, Pitbull and Backstreet Boys all performed. at this. There's 32 restaurants, bars, lounges, rooftop garden, casino, spa, multiple pools and a full theatre. It sounds like Ben and Jen's house. With guests and the guests have exclusive views. Yeah. The wedding ceremony is happening this weekend. So all the stars are coming in for it. It's going to take place in a convention centre. That sounds a bit depressing.
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Well, if you're having that many people, maybe that's why.
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The capacity is 16K in this convention centre and it was built by this family. Then they're going to do a divine blessing and then host a glitzy reception on Sunday. I cannot wait to see the pics. The dress is traditional Indian garb. I just saw on Kim's story there, she's wearing a bindi. So she's all wearing that. She's arrived in style. I'm really excited. But can we just talk about the use of money like that?
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That's sick.
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It is obscene wealth.
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Seven grand an invite.
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Sorry, I know this isn't the way you should think about it, but like... seven grand an invite can you imagine what you could do that money i know we shouldn't think about like that because it's just it won't it won't help anyone but oh my god to quote like messiah kordi kardashian like people are dying i know i know you know when you see like the breakdown of how like the government spent money on something like you know that like 20 million for the ukrainian pets yeah you know when you're like that could have done something really amazing But it's actually too depressing to think about that because it's just...
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It's such waste.
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Yeah, I'm really excited. Traditional Indian attire and then Indian chic for the reception.
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Oh my God.
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Yeah, I also love the term tycoon.
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Imagine being a tycoon.
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I'd love to be called a tycoon.
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Tycoon Sophie Lyons.
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Or imagine Sophie the tycoon Lyons. It's just all like a lot. Like I'm just thinking if they're getting paid for this... appearance. Their jets paid for the accommodations paid for and that's in those like seven star hotels. Yeah. I also say they have to do minimal work at the appearance like it's berserk.
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But then like you'd need like security I suppose if it's like full of like really rich people but you know you wouldn't want like 16,000 people coming up.
- Speaker #1
Can you imagine security on something like that? I know Bill Clinton.
- Speaker #0
So weird Like Justin Bieber, he hasn't performed in so long. It's like they picked, like Justin Bieber and
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Rihanna. Does he still perform?
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I don't know. But he's got a baby to pay for now, so.
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I think he's grand. Anyway, it's all kicking off this weekend. I'm really excited. Maybe I could do an update next week. Should it be good? But I feel like it's definitely going to be a hello magazine.
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And do you know what else I think? You know the way our celebs love an NDA? I think that is NDA as you walk in.
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On DP. city. Can you imagine the stuff you'd see?
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I'd say that's why the invites were so expensive. It was like sign here.
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Yeah, like an iron clad, but it's gold clad. I think it was a little figurine thing made out of gold or something like that.
- Speaker #0
That is insane.
- Speaker #1
And they're all touching down and she's like, hi Mumbai. I can't wait to see it.
- Speaker #0
I wonder like, how many kids this guy has? Like, do you have 100 million per wedding? Two,
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just two. okay so the girl got 80 million and the son is getting 20 250 million so essentially triple actually sorry the wedding's costing 250 million with the March festivities and these upcoming and the cruise don't forget the cruise
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Oh my God.
- Speaker #1
Don't forget the cruise, Gazza.
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Quarter of a billion. Yeah. Imagine being paid to go to a wedding.
- Speaker #1
Oh my God. Because she used to do like nightclub appearances. And I think I remember in one episode she was like, you know, early on it would be like 30k. But that's when I think she was kind of maybe just before Chris Humphries type thing.
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Yes. When they're in their trashy era.
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Can you imagine getting paid 30k for like four hours of work? It's not even work. You're just kind of standing there. Yeah. you do them all the time that's why all like the Love Island people and stuff I think really cash in on it because it's such quick money yeah you're paid to go out or cameo we were talking we were watching Real Housewives last night and the Countess Luanne was doing her cameos and she makes six figures a year on cameos whoa would that not take like so much time and she doesn't make them that expensive she's like they're like why don't you make them more expensive and she's like my thing is volume and the girl's like I could buy the house I'm looking at with that and she's like yeah you could wow but like surely you'd spend have to spend all your day doing the cameos then but sure they're quick 15 seconds also imagine you were like getting let's say it's 300 I don't know how much it is I think hers was like under 100 so for like 15 seconds you're getting a hundred dollars or whatever yeah and like it makes sense like she's and she is a countess why is she a countess she married a count now they are divorced but that's like her stage persona
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And was he British? Like, what is it, Kent?
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No, European.
- Speaker #0
Oh.
- Speaker #1
I don't know. Ambiguity, European. I'm not really sure where he's from. Is he French?
- Speaker #0
That is amazing.
- Speaker #1
He must be French, I think. Yeah. So, yeah, I think there's going to be some great content on this. Oh,
- Speaker #0
my God. Yeah. Wow. I'm so excited. But you know what these ones, like, okay, it's the billionaires. People obviously want to rub shoulders with billionaires because, like. people just always want to be more wealthy. And like you have that guy, you know, the 4th of July, your man, was it Mark Rubin or Rubio, who has his white party and he's some big billionaire. And all the celebs go to it.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, and you're like, you guys don't know each other.
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And then he's just like, is he paying for all these people to come? Or is it because he's a billionaire that loads of people go to it? And, you know, it's like the Met Gala of the summer.
- Speaker #1
I think the latter, because it's in the States. Yeah. I think the latter. I think with something like this, 100% paid.
- Speaker #0
So it's like you're not really moving in these circles with the Indian Monday. It must just be like they're paying you to come.
- Speaker #1
Oh, it's pure fee, like appearance fee, yeah.
- Speaker #0
What's Kim Kardashian's appearance fee now if it used to be 30 grand?
- Speaker #1
Oh, something absurd. You'd say she's getting a fee million. Must be. She definitely is. Sorry, she's 100% getting a good fee million. I'd say over five.
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Do you think Khloe's her plus one or was Khloe involved?
- Speaker #1
I'd say she gets a companion fee, like on British Airways.
- Speaker #0
Have you watched any of the new Kardashians? I haven't been arsed. I've heard such meh.
- Speaker #1
I still like watching it though.
- Speaker #0
Apparently they're just constantly talking about like Malika's sperm donor baby. And it's like, obviously the Kardashian women do not want to give away any of their... This is exactly what happened with E. They don't want to talk about their personal lives. So then they just go down these weird like side character stories.
- Speaker #1
Oh yeah, like let's go get a goat.
- Speaker #0
What's the goat?
- Speaker #1
Didn't they go to like an alpaca farm or something?
- Speaker #0
Oh yeah, do stupid things. Or it's like Chris wants to have like grandchildren time. It's like, this is so boring. Or like... Kendall and Kylie like hanging.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, or shaving the dog.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. It's just like, this isn't what you normally do. Like, I just don't, I don't bother doing the show. Like it's, if you're going to hang a facet, like it's just think, and then when you had Kylie going like, getting upset that people are commenting on her face and it's like, of course someone's going to backfire on you. Like you're the one who created when you were, okay, you're 17, but your mum created this like false face on you that created like insecurities. amongst women across the globe about their lips. And then now you're crying that you can't even keep up with the standard that you set. Like, you know, it's just constantly creating this fake...
- Speaker #1
Did you see that bit?
- Speaker #0
I just watched it. Yeah, I just watched the clip online.
- Speaker #1
I found it really confusing because she's like, oh, and then it's like, stop looking at them. Stop looking at the comments. Like, just turn it off. It's like, you obviously can't because that's what makes the wheel move.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
It's so facted.
- Speaker #0
Exactly. And it's like, but... the reason you guys make money is because of your bodies and because of how you look. Obviously, you can vent about it.
- Speaker #1
But then they're like, oh, social media gives me anxiety. And it's like, but you're the ones who took social media and turned it into that.
- Speaker #0
And exactly. And you created all these insecurities and all these women. And then it's like, I fully appreciate you can get upset about like not being able to keep up with the standard that you set is like horrible. But it's also like. It's a little bit like crocodile tears because you've given women complexes about their lips, their bums. It's like photoshopping every single photo and then making. And obviously they feel like under the. It's a weird paradox because they feel under pressure to be perfect.
- Speaker #1
But then they put the content in.
- Speaker #0
And then they photoshop everything and then they're creating complexes and women thinking that they need to look like that. But then they're the ones who.
- Speaker #1
But then they're giving themselves a complex. It's a vicious circle.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. So crying about it is a little bit like.
- Speaker #1
Nah.
- Speaker #0
nah nah nah the token isn't taking any of that garbage no like you're beautiful you're gorgeous like put an unfiltered photo out in the world like people lose patience when people are being fake people want authenticity in this day and age they don't want fucking auto-tuned faces it's just like ugh stop it just be real yeah and then don't complain about it you're the one who started this problem it's like you started the problem now you're crying about it it's like it's like Elon Musk crying about Twitter it's like these if back to fucking billionaires Kylie Elon they're all at it it's the Illuminati anyway right okay thanks for listening tell me do you have a record I have a great one actually yes so I've gone off piste with my book club book took too long to arrive so I had to take another book with me when I was back in Ireland and it's called Romantic Comedy by Curtis Curtis Stenfield I can't it's too far away I can't read it I heard Dolly Olsen and Carolina O'Donoghue talk about it.
- Speaker #1
That's how I know it.
- Speaker #0
And they loved it. And it's basically a reverse Notting Hill storyline. Plebian girl, famous man. Loves. And it's on the set of, it's basically Saturday Night Live, but they call it TNO. And it's just a really, I love the whole like behind the scenes. It's them like writing sketches and you kind of really see like a peek behind the curtain of SNL. And I'm only like 100 pages in, but like it's a great like summer. Reid. Yeah, he's kind of like a Justin Timberlake character or like that kind of poppy. singer guy but he actually seems quite nice yeah sorry he's no for shizzling or drunk driving but um sounded really good when they're talking about it it's good holiday read sorry did you read good material yes yes i did sorry i finished it on holidays what do you think ah i really enjoyed i enjoyed it way more than ghosts darlie gulchin's debut novel good material i really enjoyed it i think it could have been cut 50 pages or something like on reflection There was a lot of wallowing and I think that that's a lot of Dolly because I think she loves to be nostalgic and wallow but I found it went into a bit of a cycle of like the friends, the parents, some kind of girlfriend and then it kind of went back around that cycle too many times that it was like okay like this needs to move on a little bit but no I think I really enjoyed it. It was very funny and like I think when people are sad like the breakups it's so relatable and especially in this tech age of like blocking. Instagram following activity seeing when she was online yeah
- Speaker #1
I loved all that bit that's a killer yeah yeah you reminded me to get that book I want to read it because I remember talking about it when I listened to that podcast like 10 times that's the best they're the best Gazza thank you so much for your literary record and thank you all for tuning in on hopefully Tuesday morning maybe it's Tuesday evening Friday afternoon I don't know if you want to send us any questions don't forget to send us a message at safe underscore lions back classic banner on instagram i'm talking in dorset turns because the area around you has suddenly become a few people around wishing you a lovely day and from gaza and i to draw to draw thank you sophie back to the studio thank you sophie
