- Speaker #0
So, yeah, I'm having surgery probably the next two to three weeks, I think. Maybe three to four weeks. Okay. And then, like, vocal rests, because my girlfriend's a nurse, and she's like, you have vocal rest for, like, at least a month. I won't be able to talk for a month.
- Speaker #1
So, I got in just in time. Oh,
- Speaker #0
you're here. This is your first podcast.
- Speaker #1
First podcast. Oh,
- Speaker #0
my God. And you got on my radar because of Instagram.
- Speaker #1
Instagram. Instagram.
- Speaker #0
And, I mean, you're a... Luxury broker, broker in Bozeman, Montana.
- Speaker #1
A little bit of everything. I definitely veer towards the luxury side, but.
- Speaker #0
You have some stunning content. Thank you. That you put up. Like, it's fucking cool, man. Thank you. We get, well, I mean, I just, you know, I did a post recently about how 99% of all real estate content is shit.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
You buck that trend in spades.
- Speaker #1
Oh, thank you.
- Speaker #0
You're welcome. It's so good. And that's why as we talked, I'm like, get the fuck over here. because I'll be honest with you. Now, I really don't let a lot of realtors come on the show anymore because real estate content is boring as fuck.
- Speaker #1
I would have to agree. Right? For the most part.
- Speaker #0
It's just boring as balls, man. I mean, come on. Talk about your just sold. Talk about your just listed. Talk about some award you fucking paid for. Yeah. Fuck yourself. No. Yeah. No, it's just not. It's, I love it because in real estate for 30 years, out of it now happily, but it's the most stressful. biggest transaction someone's going to undertake, you know, financially is buying or selling a home. And so to take that thought process and put it in Bozeman, Montana, which I'm sure now is getting a lot of fucking recognition because of Yellowstone and everything else.
- Speaker #1
Oh yeah. Right.
- Speaker #0
Yep. Like has that show affected like the real estate market where you are?
- Speaker #1
Yes, absolutely. I was just talking to one of my agents about this the other day and he, he was saying, have you noticed how you're Paradise Valley, things have kind of like prices have started to drop and things are coming down and it's just quiet out there. And I'm like, yeah, they haven't put out a new season of Yellowstone in like a year. So nobody cares about Paradise Valley anymore.
- Speaker #0
God damn Kevin Costner, fucking diva.
- Speaker #1
I know.
- Speaker #0
Get your shit together.
- Speaker #1
I know.
- Speaker #0
Where do they film that?
- Speaker #1
So they film it actually in Darby, Montana, which nobody's ever heard of before. gorgeous, gorgeous area, but they film it in Darby. And then a lot of the downtown Bozeman scenes are actually Park City, Utah, but they do get downtown Bozeman a little bit, but you know, the ins and outs of it aren't actually in Bozeman.
- Speaker #0
The artistic license is elsewhere.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
And Park City is beautiful, but it's not fucking Bozeman.
- Speaker #1
No, no. It's funny. Every time I see a downtown scene, Park City has diagonal parking and we have parallel. And I'm like, that's not. If you're from here, you'd know that.
- Speaker #0
How long have you been there?
- Speaker #1
I've been there since 2001.
- Speaker #0
Are you from Montana?
- Speaker #1
Nope. I was born in Wyoming. So.
- Speaker #0
Jesus Christ. I mean, you talk about like, but just like big sky country. Just everything is, it's the opposite of Vegas.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Right. Like do it. Pivot. Yeah. Cause it's just, it's, I always say like Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, God's country. Yeah. it's so true it's so pretty it's just so pretty yep the people that you people are coming in like like here it's everyone's coming in from california like 40 everyone coming in here is from california that's a shug it's like i think the number now is like one person every like six or eight minutes is coming here to rent or buy like
- Speaker #1
it's crazy yeah we get a lot of california too really they've just had it yeah yeah and i mean It's kind of sad when people move to Montana from California, they instantly think they're hated because, you know, all us cowboys and stuff are like, get out of our town. And it's really not like that. I catch a lot of heat for it doing what I do because people, you know, troll me on Instagram and say, you're the problem. You're the reason the housing market is shooting through the roof. And I'm like, well, I'm flattered that you think I have that much leverage. It's not really my fault. I might be capitalizing on it, but, you know. You are,
- Speaker #0
but that's your job. Yeah. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
- Speaker #1
But yeah, exactly. And when the Californians come in or wherever you're from, I'm like, 99% of the time, I feel like they're moving there for the right reasons. They want to raise their kids in a different environment, safer school district, all these things where I'm like, can't hate them for it. If I lived anywhere else, I'd want to live where I do right now. Well,
- Speaker #0
it's... like now i'm a big joe rogan guy yeah right and rogan like oh he left california he's in austin loves it but he's even said when not if when he leaves austin he's going to like colorado wyoming or montana yeah and gonna buy like you know a couple hundred acres and just get away from everything yeah because of the way things are going it's just bananas rogan call me joe joe's an avid listener he watches he watches on youtube and has been listening yeah i've got to hold you Yeah. It's just interesting that the shift in people's mindset is now a lot of people are getting out of the cities. Yep. And going more, you know, rural.
- Speaker #1
Yep. Right? Yeah, I think. And I don't blame them for it. As long as they're not trying to bring their politics and their craziness to my town, I'm arms wide open.
- Speaker #0
You guys got to be redder than fucking red. Red. Fucking mega flags flying fucking everywhere. Don't tread on me. All over the place.
- Speaker #1
I've definitely, it's nothing like, you know, the deep south.
- Speaker #0
Fucking let's go Brandon. Fucking bumper stickers on everyone's fucking Ram 3500 dually diesel.
- Speaker #1
Yep, you're seeing Trump flags fly and all the things. But I...
- Speaker #0
The reefs.
- Speaker #1
We've definitely got some pockets like Bozeman and Missoula. Some of those bigger, bigger cities in Montana are a little more on the liberal side. But as a whole,
- Speaker #0
we're pretty red. You're red, man. You're red. That's okay. You're all good. I am. It's interesting that where you are is just like, it's another world. We talked about it. I have to come out. Yeah. But we'll figure out something. We're like, we film an episode or something. yeah because i think it'd be cool as shit yeah to come out for a couple days and just film some content and do like do a podcast like at a listing or at like a previous one or something like at a massive fucking ranch or city like outside yeah having this conversation yeah i think it'd be so cool yeah i have cowboy boots so i could fucking i have two pairs i could bring those then i guess we'll let you in yeah i don't know about a horse but i could fucking i don't and my head way too big for a hat like i could only wear a cowboy hat i can't wear baseball hats i don't have a good head for it
- Speaker #1
No,
- Speaker #0
I've tried. And it's just like, it's like this on my ears are fucking lopsided or what? I can't wear a hat. So like for me to wear like a cool like Stetson. No,
- Speaker #1
no,
- Speaker #0
no. I'll look like I'm heading to a race war. Well,
- Speaker #1
we just can't do it. Like a custom made one.
- Speaker #0
Oh, looks like I'm going to a clan rally. I can't do it.
- Speaker #1
I have the opposite problem. I'm a small head. So if I wear a hat, it's like, where's my face?
- Speaker #0
Well, you're okay. Let's talk a little bit because what I want to do is talk about. some of the stuff you've worked on and content. And then what we'll do is I want to have you send me anything, any of those videos that you have. And then my, my, my guys will weave that in to clips.
- Speaker #1
Okay.
- Speaker #0
Right. So the audience can kind of see what we're talking about. Yeah. So let's talk about like some of the like fucking ranches that are out there, like that you've worked on like last year. Yeah. What, what are some of the ones that really just, you know, were amazing.
- Speaker #1
So my favorite. favorite property from last year was just right outside of Bozeman within 20 minutes from Costco. And it was an older couple. It's been family friends for a long time. And they're getting to that stage where driving just that extra mile and the maintenance of a ranch like that was too much. As hard as it is to throw in the towel on those things, sometimes you just got to make the call. And that one, not only was the property just... Dunning. It was just under 200 acres of God's country, right? And acre pond on the property, gorgeous custom home. I mean, no neighbors within sight, all the things that, you know, are picture perfect. But the other side of that was they, it was an emotional transaction for them. They didn't want to sell it. They needed to. And so it was a heavy weight to carry on my shoulders to walk these people through like, you know, this phase of their life where they've been there for a long time and ready to move on. Puts a whole different kind of pressure on your representation.
- Speaker #0
How long were they there?
- Speaker #1
They were there. Well, they've been in Montana for decades, but they were at that home, I think for about 13 years.
- Speaker #0
And that horses, cattle?
- Speaker #1
Used to. But they've, so they've been phasing all that out, but it's perfectly set up for it. Irrigation rides all through every which way of the property. And then, you know, their neighbors. all have horses, cattle.
- Speaker #0
What's the percentage of ranches? Like for the geographic area that you work, that your firm works?
- Speaker #1
For where I am, I would say you're probably like, in Bozeman specifically, you're probably, it's only maybe 20% ranch. It's pretty good. Yeah.
- Speaker #0
It's pretty good.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. We've seen a ton of development over the past couple decades.
- Speaker #0
So that-Or like cookie cutter, like McMansions or-A little bit of everything.
- Speaker #1
We've definitely got like the cookie cutter subdivisions going up and then your higher end, you know, gated communities that are 20 acre lots per,
- Speaker #0
you know-What's the average home for a 20 acre lot? What's it go for? Five, seven?
- Speaker #1
Probably around five. Yeah. Five. In Bozeman. Big Sky. You can add probably two or three million to that.
- Speaker #0
That's bananas.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
And that's why I'm a big fan of just like different stuff. It's ADHD. So I want to see something different. Squirrel. And I want to come just like tour that shit. Yeah. I was born in New York City. Yeah. I live in a little town upstate New York on a 17 mile long lake. So and that's where I was raised and then been Vegas for 15 years.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
I've never even. been to Montana or Wyoming and Colorado. I drove through it when I drove from Canandaigua, New York to St. George, Utah back in 05 to move out West. But I'm like, what got me was your stuff is good. And then you get the cowboy hat on, fucking boots and the whole thing. I have the horse in the goddamn house.
- Speaker #1
That was fun. I got in trouble for that.
- Speaker #0
Why?
- Speaker #1
Well, the horse got a little spooked and he, Started clawing at the slate floor. Scratched up a little bit.
- Speaker #0
Your house or somebody else's house?
- Speaker #1
My parents'house.
- Speaker #0
Oh, shit.
- Speaker #1
Sorry, dad.
- Speaker #0
Their horse?
- Speaker #1
No, no. That was actually my mother-in-law's horse. Got it. He was the most chill one that we could ride into a house. And it still spooked him just a little bit.
- Speaker #0
That was a great video. Great fucking video, dude. Great video.
- Speaker #1
It was a lot of fun.
- Speaker #0
What is it that inspires you with your content? Because you do a really good job storytelling.
- Speaker #1
Thank you. I've always kind of taken the stance of wanting a theatrical aspect to my content. I hate listing videos where you're like, hi, I'm Lauren and we're at my newest listing. Like, kill me. I hate that stuff. But if I can showcase a property and really... ride the horse through the fields and get the bald eagle landing in the front yard and all of these things that are really actually selling the property because you can envision yourself being in that moment. Nobody cares if I know the address to a property or if I know how to walk through a house, you know? So I've always tried to take that stance and tell a story, have a little bit of theatrics. It's almost like acting to me, which I love. And so... I've tried to bring that into most of my content. There's some boring stuff out there, but most of my content, I try to keep it.
- Speaker #0
You can't win them all, my friend. And again, residential real estate is an emotional decision, unless you're a flipper. It's an emotional decision. Where you are though, talk about emotion. I mean, oh my God. Yeah. Just the aesthetics. Yeah. You know, like it would be a drone pilot's wet dream.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. Yeah, totally.
- Speaker #0
To be where you are.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's really gorgeous. And I try to not take it for granted because every time I do travel, um, it, it brings me, brings me a new appreciation for coming back home. Um, I remember leaving for college and I come. back for Christmas the first year and I start driving down my parents driveway with the Bridger mountains over the back. And I just start, I'm like, Oh my God, it's so beautiful here.
- Speaker #0
The Hallmark channel.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
That was me. Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Well, and it's, and again, compared to Vegas where we blow shit, the trough's getting blown up in the next couple of months, you know, to build a goddamn. baseball stadium. The A's haven't even officially said they're coming here yet, by the way. The deal really has been inked. Yet the trop is closed and they're blowing it up. But I think that's like my first wife, I proposed to her in Paris in 03. I never really appreciated France. France are a bunch of fucking pussies. World War I rollover. World War II rollover. For the Germans, both times. What the fuck, French people? But then you go there and it's like everything there has been preserved. They have stuff from like the
- Speaker #1
1500s. Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Like you walk down a little street and there's this phallic symbol. They all must have small penises in fucking France because it's all phallic. Eiffel Tower. Hello. And so, I mean, come on, French people. Come on. And so. But you see like this giant monument, phallic symbol, but it'll say like 1322 on it. And you're like, oh my God. And so I have such respect for that because then you come here and we tear everything down. But where you are, I assume there's more of that preservation.
- Speaker #1
There is.
- Speaker #0
Of what there is or architectural guidelines for a new construction to say, you're not going to build a box, you know, with a loft on top like they'll do here. Yeah. where there it's got to be some type of, you know,
- Speaker #1
approval. Our city and our county, they do a fantastic job with regulating the building that goes on. And there's more of it happening than a lot of people want, I guess. But I have to give them credit for the guidelines. I mean, there's very few, very few areas in Bozeman and surrounding that are not pretty to look at. I mean, I could probably count it on one hand. And that's pretty huge.
- Speaker #0
I guarantee it's the back of the Chinese food place. Everybody in the Chinese food place.
- Speaker #1
You don't even have one anymore.
- Speaker #0
You're in a Chinese food place, supposedly? Get the fuck out, Chinese people. Oh, my God.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, we have like a buffet in the mall.
- Speaker #0
It's always that one Chinese place in every town where it's like the whole fucking family is working it. Yeah. And there's like... a three-year-old Chinese kid is there like eating a rice ball doing like fucking string theory by the way and a fucking abacus like smart as fuck yeah you know they're gonna own 45 of these things when they're older yeah that's hysterical you have no Chinese food we don't no we used to and we literally don't have I was just saying the other day I'm like god every once in a while I just want some like
- Speaker #1
Chinese buffet food you know like good old classic go through some sugar donut things oh they're wonderful
- Speaker #0
Fucking horrible flavor. It's so good. I want extra MSG when I go. Yes. I'm like, hey there, Mr. Fu. I want two and number five with extra soy sauce, extra sodium. Dump more salt on it. Yep. Don't care. Yep. It just tastes better.
- Speaker #1
You're going there for a reason.
- Speaker #0
You're going there for a reason.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
And those people live to be like hundreds of years old. Everyone that's got long lives are all like Japanese, Chinese people.
- Speaker #1
I know.
- Speaker #0
Fucking rice.
- Speaker #1
God bless them. And they don't age.
- Speaker #0
They don't fucking age. Yeah. You know. watching Shogun right now. You're watching that?
- Speaker #1
Mm-mm.
- Speaker #0
It's good. It's on Netflix.
- Speaker #1
Okay. I need a new show.
- Speaker #0
It's a remake of, it was originally a miniseries that was Richard Chamberlain back in the 80s and it was awesome. But now they've redone it and it's like, now there's sex in it and, you know, the boobs and peepees and the whole thing. It's great. It's great. Violent as hell. People getting their shit hacked off. It's good. It's so good.
- Speaker #1
Okay, so watch this after my kids go to bed. Oh,
- Speaker #0
yeah. I wouldn't. Unless it's time to have the pee-pee talk with the kids. I don't think they show any Japanese pee-pees. I don't think they do. They show Japanese boobs. That's it,
- Speaker #1
though. Fair enough.
- Speaker #0
So I think you're fine.
- Speaker #1
Noted.
- Speaker #0
You're like, oh my God, this is the strangest fucking experience of my entire life. Fucking bald guy with a warbly voice talking about Chinese pee-pees.
- Speaker #1
I'm going to get back at it. Oh, yeah. I'm just talking about Chinese.
- Speaker #0
Chinese and Japanese peepees. Hey, wait for the episode. Wait for it. Subscribe to YouTube. So I can tell you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is what it is. It is what it is.
- Speaker #1
I'm here for it.
- Speaker #0
So how old is Bozeman? Oh, let's see. 18,
- Speaker #1
1889, I think. Okay. And there's still structures that are standing.
- Speaker #0
Was it settlers from Texas that came up? because I watched that one prequel.
- Speaker #1
The 1883. Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Whatever. Fuck them. They fucking did like one or two seasons and then that's it.
- Speaker #1
I know. And that was the best one. Thank you. Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Listen, Roadhouse, fucking Sam Elliott.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Are you kidding me? He's the, I get goosebumps. He's a fucking man. Yeah. Still.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Like I'm not gay, but I'd have like man cuddles with him.
- Speaker #1
Who wouldn't?
- Speaker #0
Right? I don't know. Fucking dulcet fucking tones of his voice. Yeah. I'm like, come here, I'll be big spoon. Come here,
- Speaker #1
Sam. Come here,
- Speaker #0
Sam. Get over here. Get over here, you fucking salt and pepper hair.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, that was the best one. Right? Yeah. Well, and I can't remember the main actress's name, but she's stunningly beautiful.
- Speaker #0
Hot as hell.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. And then it was.
- Speaker #1
And they killed her off.
- Speaker #0
Who's the husband and wife?
- Speaker #1
Faith Hill and Tim McGraw.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, like they were good.
- Speaker #1
They can act.
- Speaker #0
I'm like, that's why, like, and again, all my news is on fucking TikTok or Instagram. Like, oh, they canceled fucking 1889. What? yeah what what what yeah it was the best one it was it's better than fucking Yellowstone as far as I'm concerned I agree yeah you could arc that all the way as far as I watched the Harrison Ford one I have an episode and I could Helen Mirren I can't yeah I can't yeah that one was they missed the mark on that yeah I just couldn't do it and yeah Yellowstone's I mean amazing yeah it's such it's so good yeah it's so good they caught lightning in a bottle yeah then I mean I mean he has a history of being a dick Yeah. Um, it's Costner just has a history of doing that now getting murdered and divorce and, you know, so he's got his shit going on. I get it. He doesn't need the money. Yeah. He has dances with wolves money from fucking way back. So he's fine.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. He's fine.
- Speaker #0
He's got to fuck you money. But it's like, Oh, it's, it was good.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. Yeah. It was. Yeah. But I appreciate it for yellow, like watching Yellowstone was kind of like watching selling sunset for me. being in the real estate industry, and then also being from Montana, it was hard to like separate yourself from what it's supposed to be about and really just kind of enjoy the entertainment aspect of it. Because I'm like, as far as I know, we don't kill each other over land anymore.
- Speaker #0
I was going to ask, there's always artistic license. We're like. do you really fucking go at it with the indian nation that much no do you battle with the fucking state capital like no our big developers always coming in that was a chick she was from uh from vacation um oh yeah the one chick that came in that went up against beth the older woman i forgot her name now i'll think of it but um like i
- Speaker #1
just can't picture that happening no i mean the the small truth to that show um is that yes like the development is running rampant. It's out of control. It's, it's, we're growing faster than we can keep up with. And yeah, it's a lot of big, big wigs from other states and other, you know, countries even sometimes coming in and buying up our land and doing that. So there's a small amount of truth to the concept there, but how it's executed is not so.
- Speaker #0
No, not so. But they've got to sell ads, you know, ad time or streaming shit. What's minimum lot size? Do you know? minimum lot size like to build if i was going to go and buy a small here it's like
- Speaker #1
0.2 acres it's crazy here oh uh i mean yeah we see some of that really yeah we do yeah i mean our downtown area i mean if you're gonna write downtown there's some lots as small as like 3300 square feet um and then yeah in these cookie cutter neighborhoods you'll see like 0.2 acres and stuff like that do you see hedge funds coming in i i i don't necessarily but doesn't mean it's not happening it's serious look here it's like rampant yeah and nationally it's rampant but i didn't know if they'd made it out to not
- Speaker #0
seen or heard of yet but i wouldn't be surprised well it's again if it doesn't make dollars doesn't make sense yeah and all they're doing i mean what they're saying now like within another five to ten years no one's gonna own a home anymore everyone's just gonna rent yeah because of unless they stop unless the government comes in and says okay no more yeah of this you guys can't do this anymore yeah because you're squeezing yeah like first-time home buyers out yeah yeah we we
- Speaker #1
are um dealing with that conflict quite a bit right now are you i mean our our median house price is right around a million you know so it's like As a single person, you're having to make a couple hundred thousand dollars a year to just qualify for the average. Yeah, I mean, and that's like doubled since before COVID, you know. So it's been an astronomical amount of growth in a small amount of time. So we see that quite a bit. And of course, we're always exploring options of how do we, you know, bridge this gap with affordable housing. And it's, you know, if there was...
- Speaker #0
an easy answer we'd do it right but i mean there's no manual there's not and that you're you're you're flying it's uh with a pilot's instruments only it's dark your clouds yeah your instruments only you're just trying to figure this thing out you're going by feel yeah right yeah yeah
- Speaker #1
Yeah. And you're, I mean, you're trying to make the best of it, I guess. I mean, doing what we can. And it's a lot of trial and error for a little town like us that hasn't experienced this growth before. So.
- Speaker #0
How much growth have you, you've been there for a while.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Has it been explosive?
- Speaker #1
Yes.
- Speaker #0
Just crazy. Yeah. Bananas.
- Speaker #1
Oh yeah. Yeah. I, I remember when some of our, our main streets were dirt roads. You know, it's, it's grown. I love it. I, I still like when I get up against somebody in an argument about this or whatever, like find a better place to raise your family. I don't know. I'm like, you can sit here and bitch about the growth and it's changing so much. And I'm like, well, that means that we're a thriving community. There's more opportunity coming in. Little things like. We have good restaurants now and we have stuff to do. We have good music coming into town. Like there's positives, but people just tend to want to focus on the negative.
- Speaker #0
What's your favorite restaurant?
- Speaker #1
My favorite restaurant is probably a place called Feast.
- Speaker #0
Shocker.
- Speaker #1
I like to eat.
- Speaker #0
Is it a buffet? Like give you a snow shovel instead of a spoon? Is it more of a win? Just like Chinese placement unders, here comes Feast. lauren's camping outside the door here comes lauren mortgage is fucking paid here comes more that's okay come on honey welcome it's me brought my own fork it's bigger wearing your fat pants like ready to go we're in elastic waist khakis from fucking tj maxx yeah here we go yep what what is this sorry peace is like motherfuckers we have good food it's exactly how you describe it i'm just kidding
- Speaker #1
Uh, it's a, like a seafood bar meat steakhouse, but it's locally owned. It's amazing. Right on. Just beer and wine. But you know, um, that's my only complaint. Cause you can't get like a nice cocktail there, but they do have a killer wine list.
- Speaker #0
Is there like, it's kind of the steak there has to be amazing. Like you have to have like next level fucking steak.
- Speaker #1
It is. Right. It is good. It's hard for me to like travel to places like here, which has some of the best restaurants.
- Speaker #0
ever and like really travel anywhere and order a steak because i'm just like that's something i can get in my backyard kind of thing you know thank you because that's why full disclosure taking we're going out for something after this was going to take you to echo and rig is a steakhouse and i'm like oh where you're staying it's right near where you're staying at gvr but i'm like fucking bitch lives in god's country where she could go out in the backyard and fucking look at a cow, it'll fall over. And next thing you know, there's, you know, bone and filet.
- Speaker #1
Yep.
- Speaker #0
Right. So I'm like, no, no, no. We're going somewhere else. It's phenomenal.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. Yeah. I love, I'm a foodie. So I love exploring restaurants. But when I'm out of state, like I'm, I'm eating more seafood. I'm trying, you know, Indian, Korean stuff that I don't see a lot of in my hometown.
- Speaker #0
So. The place I'm taking you today is called, it's Gabby, Gabby Cafe. And they have two or three locations now in town. We're going to their main location. is a little outside of Chinatown on Spring Mountain here in Vegas. Hands down one of my favorite places in town to go. I'm excited. It is just aesthetically, it's gorgeous. Fucking Koreans know how to do it, man. And like the food is beautiful and tastes amazing. They don't serve booze. I apologize ahead of time. We'll go somewhere else for that. I know. I know. Jesus, I know. I got you.
- Speaker #1
I'm a mom. I have three kids.
- Speaker #0
Oh, I know. I got you, kiddo. I got you. But I thought of that and that's why I did it. I called an audible and I was like, I'm not going to fucking take it. I go, rig? You know, oh, they have a great fucking, their hanger steak is amazing. Jeff, go fuck yourself. I learned that. My dad lived in Cape Cod for 16 years. Yeah. So I'm ruined for lobster tail and New England clam chowder for the rest of my life. And I've had it here. It's one of the best seafood places here in town. Joe's, Stone Crab, anywhere I've gone here. It's good. it's not fucking cape it's not hyannis right and so you've got to be the same way yeah yeah i'm a little judgmental when it comes to steak and burgers burger snob is there like okay again this is a complete fucking insult to you i apologize ahead of time because you're gonna be like motherfucker your toes are gonna crow when i say this right i know already what's the like omaha stakes of like like if you send out a gift to somebody you Because if I want to get like really good grass fed fucking, you know, you know, strip steaks, fillets.
- Speaker #1
So we have a local shop called Primal.
- Speaker #0
right in Bozeman that sources a lot of local meat. And they actually, I collaborated with the owner there because I was buying so much of it for closing gifts that I was like, you got to start doing branded crates because I'm coming in here and I'm having, I'm having to like put this in like, you know, grocery sacks. Here you go. Happy closing. So now we have these like really cool crates. They're burned with the Primal logo and full of meat. Um, but honestly, my favorite comes from the snake river, which is actually in Wyoming, but that's the best. I don't know. It's just, it's.
- Speaker #1
So marbled. Is it?
- Speaker #0
Yeah, it's marbled. And I don't know. They're just doing something right with the cows.
- Speaker #1
I don't know what it could be like. Again, just you'll learn all this shit. Like what are the nutrients and the stuff in the grass? Yeah. You know, whatever they're eating. Yeah. It's digested. Yeah. By the, you know.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
By the cows.
- Speaker #0
Right? Yeah. Well, and everybody's on, you know, like the grass fed beef kick. The ones that eat the corn and all the, all the stuff. And they taste better. Really? I said it.
- Speaker #1
I said it. I might get your card revoked. Really? Lauren, knock me over with a feather. Holy shit.
- Speaker #0
Grass fed beef is just not as flavorful.
- Speaker #1
I think it's marketing.
- Speaker #0
It's good. But yeah.
- Speaker #1
This is marketing. Yeah. And that's it. Yeah. So you'd rather have. You either have like corn fed hormones,
- Speaker #0
steroids. I don't know about the hormones and stuff.
- Speaker #1
Walk me through the perfect steak for you from like farm to table. What's the cow, like the environment of the cow? And then what's your cut of meat?
- Speaker #0
Oh, man. I have to pick one?
- Speaker #1
No, don't.
- Speaker #0
Well, again, I think that I would go from like your good old boy ranch where they're still feeding it like the corn and they're not on this like lean diet of the grass fed beef kick. And my favorite cut. It depends on how it's cooked. I love a good rare to medium rare filet tenderloin. Or I'll go like a medium ribeye.
- Speaker #1
Ooh.
- Speaker #0
It's fattier, so you don't want to like undercook it.
- Speaker #1
But you'll do rare.
- Speaker #0
Oh, yeah. On a filet, for sure.
- Speaker #1
Because of the flavor?
- Speaker #0
Yeah. And the texture.
- Speaker #1
Explain.
- Speaker #0
It's melt in your mouth, kind of. I don't have to chew it as hard.
- Speaker #1
That makes sense. Peter Luger just opened up here at Caesars. And Peter Luger is a 150, I think, year old steakhouse in Brooklyn, in New York City. And they're amazing. Like it is. And I lived in Manhattan for two years, have friends, friends there. It is the best steakhouse on the planet. On the planet. And they just came here. And Rogan talks about it because they do a whole thing with how they'll like cook it. But then they put it like in a broiler and there's a whole process. They go three.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
And it's again. it's probably the most expensive, not the most expensive, but up there my top three in town. Sometime I got to go.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
But it's that again, where they're sourcing their meat from, but you're saying like, Oh, I have to pick just one cut or two, you know, it's, yeah. And that was a great answer because no, you don't have to pick this one cut. Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Right.
- Speaker #1
Um, ever to bone in. Yeah. Would you prefer bone in or out? Uh,
- Speaker #0
honestly, if it's prepared. correctly. I like bone-in. I think it keeps some of the flavor there. Like if you get a good tomahawk.
- Speaker #1
That's echoing right to the tomahawk. It's fucking great. Like a 30 ounce fucking and all the sides.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. It's an experience. What would you say their like 8 ounce filet is? What does it cost you at that restaurant?
- Speaker #1
An echoing rig? Maybe $60. Well, 70, 75. Okay. I'd say. Which is fair for here. Because the thing about Vegas, a lot of people don't know, like you're going to take it to a place today. There's so many places off the strip that are award winning. Yeah. And what happens is a lot of times a person will go through, get up to be a sous chef, executive chef at one of the gaming properties on the strip at a five star place. or a four-star place, get sick of the corporate bullshit and say, I'm out and go to Henderson, Summerlin, wherever and open up their own place and a strip plaza or wherever and light it up.
- Speaker #0
Nice.
- Speaker #1
And the food is as good or better than the strip for half the price. Yeah.
- Speaker #0
We just had a steakhouse open up like the last year or so. Downtown Bozeman. You're paying 98 bucks for like a six ounce filet. It's good.
- Speaker #1
For 98 bucks. I want like.
- Speaker #0
You want to kill the cow?
- Speaker #1
I want to see the cow slaughtered in front of me. Like no country for old men. I want to see the, I want to see the guy like put the thing behind the ear of the cow and, you know, done a bled out. I want to see it prepared. Like the whole thing. Yeah. You know, and I want, I want it to be like a, I'm going to get in trouble for this, but whites only like only men work there. Like, you know, like straight up. Well, I'll tell you when I lived in Manhattan, Smith and Walensky men only were servers there. I want to say up. Into the 90s. Yeah. Like men only servers.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
And all white guys like in my country clubs are that way. So I'm not saying to be racist. It's just I'm being funny by saying it. But it's something that like that type of old school steakhouse. Yeah. The guys have like white shirt apron on. Yeah. And they know that fucking menu by heart. Yeah. And there's only maybe four or five cuts of meat. That's it.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
You know, and there's like a fish. a chicken. And if you're a vegan, go fuck yourself.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. That's kind of how the steakhouse is.
- Speaker #1
Go fuck yourself. Like, and that's how I'm, and I'm all for that. Yeah. You know? Yeah. There's a couple of steakhouses here that are higher end that they'll just have like four or five cuts. Yeah. And that's it. Like Morton's and they're, you know, high end chain. Yeah. They'll have it, like they'll bring you out the cuts of meat. Yeah. Which I think is great. Yeah. For sales. I'm like, yeah. It's like psychology of sales. Fucking brilliant. Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Yep. Totally. That's way better than the cheesy dessert carts that come out. The plastic yourself.
- Speaker #1
Go listen. Hey, restaurant people, you're in a bag of dicks when you're fucking your, you know, baked Alaska and flambe table side shit. No, no. But you bring me a goddamn like a hanger or say, here's our four different types of hanger. To me, as long as all of your carnivores. If I could double date, there's nothing better. Yeah. Than to go to a killer steakhouse and get a giant fucking tomahawk. Yeah. With all the fucking, the hollandaise sauce and the creamy fucking horseradish with the dill in it.
- Speaker #0
That's fine.
- Speaker #1
Right. And all that shit. And I'm like, that's to me is like one of the best double date things you can do.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Totally.
- Speaker #1
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Um, you've got it sometime. Text me the name of that, the meat place in Wyoming. Cause I'm interested. Yeah. Um. yeah what okay it's not the main reason but like my girlfriend brandy my fucking love she's amazing she's like hot and i'm like what it's like it's you know and she's age appropriate it's fucking wonderful it's fucking wonderful it's what's the therapy is working but you know blue cross only covers so much um and but she's just like a four-star cook okay like she came out here a week and a half ago one night was chicken one night was steaks one night was salmon Like she bought like the whole fucking salmon at Costco. Nice. And like on the grill. And I'm like, what the fuck?
- Speaker #0
I love that.
- Speaker #1
And the sides. And she's making the creamy horseradish with dill from scratch and everything.
- Speaker #0
It's commitment.
- Speaker #1
Oh, it's. And she loves doing that. Like that's her love language. She loves these acts of service. And I love it because I'm like, can I help? I can cook. Nope. I'm good.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
I get to watch her cook.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
And that's so cool. Yeah. And so. I would love to get like killer steaks and time it to where have them arrive when she comes to visit she's moving out here by October yeah and but then like have those oh yeah to cook on the grill and she worked at an outback for a few years like I think a manager she could she made a goddamn steak for me that I think it was a ribeye it had like the cross-cut sear marks it was like I was at a goddamn steakhouse well done Brandi what the hell Brandi McCowan like thank you honey but it's like yeah hot thigh gap can cook what else do you need okay okay and you know 2 000 miles away but that's we're working on that so yeah well distance makes the heart grow fonder it's it's been a challenge it's been a fucking challenge but we've been we're you know we're getting there now it's like you know before it was like but now we're like okay committed let's fucking do this thing yeah Yeah, I'll see her. I'm going to see her in. Early next month and then coming back out in two weeks after they're going on a cruise. Nice. Again, yeah, Virgin Cruise Lines.
- Speaker #0
You guys like the cruise.
- Speaker #1
I'll tell you. Have you gone on a cruise before?
- Speaker #0
I have not. Okay. No.
- Speaker #1
My first cruise was last year.
- Speaker #0
Okay.
- Speaker #1
Virgin Cruise Lines out of Miami. Okay. And what we did was this. I'm all about this. I'm lucky enough. Financially, I'm okay. If I go on vacation, like, I'm not going to do the Groupon fucking inside stateroom or portal. You know, the show and fucking love boat reruns from the fucking 80s. Yeah. You know. Yeah. So Virgin is there's like three or four different levels of the luxury. There's like three different classes. It's on the lower end of luxury, but it's still higher end. 18 and up. There's no kids.
- Speaker #0
Nice. Wonderful. I love that.
- Speaker #1
Wonderful. I love my kids. Anybody else's kids? That's nice. But I don't want to take I don't want my vacation.
- Speaker #0
Especially, you know, if you're leaving your kids. The last thing you want to be is around somebody else's.
- Speaker #1
I just don't.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, I get that.
- Speaker #1
Right?
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
You've got fucking tax deductions, you know. Do. You know how it is. And you're a good breeder. Kids are beautiful.
- Speaker #0
Thank you.
- Speaker #1
Jesus. Fucking gorgeous kids. But it's like, so you go on this cruise and almost everything's covered for. You pay in advance for all your shit. It's either inside the stateroom. No, go fuck yourself. So their bottom line, their bare bones won outside. Has a patio with a hammock.
- Speaker #0
Nice.
- Speaker #1
Wonderful. Yes. And Brandy had it down to like, she makes all the dinner reservations.
- Speaker #0
I love that.
- Speaker #1
Like 3,500 people on the ship. It's not a mega ship. And also like room service is like $4 charge, order wherever you want. So if you're wasted, which you drink a shitload on those things, shocker, you're fucking drunk the entire time, like fucking spring break. But if it's like midnight, one in the morning, and we're getting like a strip steak. And he had some pasta dish, which was amazing.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
Done in the morning. She's ordering like coffee for us and croissants at a certain time come for four bucks. Like it was, it's, yeah, it's great.
- Speaker #0
And you get to get off the boat every once in a while. See, I've always wanted to do one, but I'm worried that I'll get woozy.
- Speaker #1
They have a ton of, well, here's the thing. Same. Yeah. And I never have, knock on wood. They have stuff you can, you know, you get ahead of time. Like she's a nurse. So she was like, brings all this shit.
- Speaker #0
Like the Dramamine. Dramamine.
- Speaker #1
Okay. Motion sickness patches.
- Speaker #0
Okay.
- Speaker #1
They have a like little mini hospital health thing right there. They even have a virgin. It was IVs. Like for like the pump you full, like hangover shit. And I saw people going in like, okay, it's, yeah, it's bananas. But it's, it's well done. And we did last year, it was five nights. This year we're doing four. But what we do is two nights in South Beach first.
- Speaker #0
Okay.
- Speaker #1
Fucking love South Beach. Yeah. You've been there? Mm-hmm.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
Oh,
- Speaker #0
right? Yeah.
- Speaker #1
Like, I thought Vegas has good-looking people.
- Speaker #0
It reminds me of, like, Vegas on the beach with, like, a lot of Cubans.
- Speaker #1
It's everybody there is Central, South American. Yeah. Cuban. Yeah. Extremely attractive. Mm-hmm. very nice yeah people that are super nice i keep seeing it's like median cartel fucking money you know yeah and all these people and the money that comes in there yeah it's insane because i may be a next real estate guy you're talking to uber people like russians are coming in canadians are coming in yeah you know all over the world people are coming there yeah and it's gorgeous there yeah it's beautiful and you know hey diddy souse is probably on the market pretty soon
- Speaker #0
That is shit.
- Speaker #1
You can grab Diddy's place. That whole island. I did before with my ex-wife. We went to Rinkibiskein for a thing. And we did one of those like jet boat, like 20 people on a super fast fucking boat. And we went around that. Like Michael Jordan has a place there. Like anybody who's anybody has a place on that island. And Diddy, yeah.
- Speaker #0
Not so much anymore,
- Speaker #1
huh? I'm waiting with him. Like he has, I think, like. Weinstein level shit. Because you see now he has video. Oh. He has like hundreds of cameras they've found. And so now there's talk about when when you know law enforcement goes in of course the government now who the fuck knows. Yeah. Putin full hat on. But it's are they going in to get it as evidence or are they going in to get it to erase it because of people that are on the list. Like I don't know. You know for Epstein to you can't to undead himself or on, on live himself, whatever you got to say for fucking social media. Yeah. Um, like he didn't do that on his own. There's just no way. There's no way. And so with Diddy, it's like, I'm just waiting. I know.
- Speaker #0
Just grab some popcorn, sit back and relax.
- Speaker #1
That's like a great chip where it's just like the guy eating the popcorn and just fucking sitting there. Is it Michael Jackson's thriller? I think it's a thriller video, right?
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
Fucking sitting there. Millions of people are fucking waiting right now for Diddy stuff.
- Speaker #0
I know. Yeah. What a time to be alive.
- Speaker #1
And it's gone on. I love it. It's not happening to me. I'm like, thank God. Holy shit. But it's like the timeline and stuff's coming out now from like years ago. People were coming out and saying stuff and it all got swept under the rug.
- Speaker #0
Yep.
- Speaker #1
Holy shit.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Beyond the Kesha song, I never really gave him too much attention. That song always made me feel really cool when I was like 16. Be like, wake up in the morning feeling like P. Diddy, like I even knew what that meant. But I'm like, yeah.
- Speaker #1
Oh my God, you're so white. It's wonderful. Was this in Wyoming?
- Speaker #0
I think it was Montana.
- Speaker #1
Was it Montana? Yeah. She probably even had like ditty music in Montana.
- Speaker #0
I didn't know why it made me feel cool, but it did.
- Speaker #1
That's hysterical. Let's talk music for a second. Let's bring it back to Bozeman. It's hysterical. So like you said, good music. What types of music is prevalent in Bozeman?
- Speaker #0
Definitely country music. We get a lot of that. But a lot of folk. A lot of... Blues, rock and roll. We're getting a little bit of everything.
- Speaker #1
Do you have festivals? Music festivals?
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Small scale. We don't have anything that really that I know of. People are like traveling in from out of state or but.
- Speaker #1
Do you have an amphitheater?
- Speaker #0
We do.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. How many seats?
- Speaker #0
Not in Bozeman. I honestly don't know. It's outside of Missoula. Okay.
- Speaker #1
How far away? Fuck Missoula. Hey, Missoula.
- Speaker #0
It's like two and a half.
- Speaker #1
That's for me, not Lauren, by the way. Lauren loves Missoula.
- Speaker #0
Go Cats.
- Speaker #1
If you're looking to move to fight from Bozeman, go Lauren.
- Speaker #0
We have one of the oldest rivalries, athletic rivalries in the country with Missoula, Bozeman and Missoula, Cat Gris. So. Okay. I can't like Missoula. Anyway, it's two and a half, three and out. Two and a half, three hours away.
- Speaker #1
I'm not going that far. Yeah. For fucking Dave Matthews or whoever.
- Speaker #0
We are building one about 30 minutes outside of Bozeman. They just opened like a massive brewery. Cool. And they're doing an amphitheater outside the brewery.
- Speaker #1
Do you have a lot of those brewery places? My hometown, Canada, New York, the city and the town is like 30,000 people. The city is like 13,000 people. Yeah. I go back all the time to see my dad and my friends, but all these little microbrewery places. Tons. Like the big stainless steel vats of yeast or whatever are fucking making beer.
- Speaker #0
There's one on every corner. I mean, we like our beer, I guess.
- Speaker #1
Shocker.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. What else is there to do besides getting barfied?
- Speaker #1
I was going to say drink and chew. Like, you know, skull bandit, you know, have a fucking beer and get in barfights. Yeah. You know, lie about your sex life and just, you know, have fun. Yeah. I would assume that that's what everybody does. That's what I say. That's here. That's in Vegas for Christmas.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, we just wear hats and cowboy boots while we do it.
- Speaker #1
My God. But the whole beer thing, that's come on like in the past few years. Yeah. Which is crazy to me. Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, it's become an art, like a craft. I mean, it's always been that, I guess, but it's just kind of blown up.
- Speaker #1
It's a thing, but it's a craft. Well, now, like here, it's like, is marijuana legal? Yeah. So it's like, that's a whole nother, like, I'm a big gummy guy. Yeah. And the place I go to here in town, The Source. It's like going into an Apple store.
- Speaker #0
Oh, yeah.
- Speaker #1
Everything's behind plexiglass. Yeah. And you give them your license in front, and you go in, and you have a bud tender. Nice. And they have an iPad. Lauren, I'm fucking bougie as fuck. And they're like, hey, Jeff, how are you? Last time you got blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Just so you know, something just like that is on sale. Nice. You know, this strain, hybrid, whatever. I'm like, okay, Sharon, thank you.
- Speaker #0
That is awesome.
- Speaker #1
Let's roll.
- Speaker #0
Streamlined.
- Speaker #1
And it's... I mean, I grew up, please, I graduated high school in 87. You get skunk weed, would shake, it would have stems and seeds and you're smoking it. And please listen to Ozzy Osbourne. It was fucking good times, but you didn't know what you were getting. Now it's like, like going to a winery.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Right. Yep.
- Speaker #1
And you can choose, you know, indigo in the couch. You can go like this or sativa where you're fucking happy or hybrid. Like what?
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's another thing we have on every corner now. Do you? Yeah, they're everywhere.
- Speaker #1
How long ago was it legalized in Montana? Do you know?
- Speaker #0
I don't know when it became fully recreationally.
- Speaker #1
legal but it's been i mean it's been probably close to a decade maybe of at least medical what's your biggest like economic drivers ag agriculture yeah that's it that's
- Speaker #0
definitely the authority that's like percent yeah something else is yeah you know yeah but i mean weed's becoming a big one um yeah i don't know if it's up there with agriculture yet but i
- Speaker #1
but I would think that it's, I mean, I'm sure it's ag weed, but I bet, you know, it's going because, and also it's like, you run the numbers and say, if you own, you know, what's the average agriculture ranch?
- Speaker #0
Oh gosh.
- Speaker #1
500, a thousand acres.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
- Speaker #1
And to say, okay, well, what's my run the numbers and I got to have fucking cows out there and shit and piss and food and everything else compared to weed. Yeah. And it's a weed. Yeah. You don't got to do much to it. Yeah.
- Speaker #0
Yep. Yeah. Your overhead's probably quite a bit less.
- Speaker #1
I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but, you know, come on.
- Speaker #0
Maybe the Dutton should have.
- Speaker #1
Dutton should go all weed.
- Speaker #0
Sold out.
- Speaker #1
I'm going to go on all weed. I can see it. If I can overcome the fucking scars and just piss off and let's go. Let's go, Dad.
- Speaker #0
A little bit of weed in her life.
- Speaker #1
It's more than that. She's a wolf.
- Speaker #0
Less whiskey.
- Speaker #1
Talk about taking daddy issues to another level. Like to write that character. Yeah. Oh my God. Beth Dutton. Like it's, I mean, when that show first came out, her and Rip, I cried a couple episodes.
- Speaker #0
I love them. I cried.
- Speaker #1
Like that is the, every couple should be that good. Yeah. Every couple.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Yeah.
- Speaker #1
You know.
- Speaker #0
Goals. Yeah.
- Speaker #1
Goals.
- Speaker #0
He's in Montana quite a bit.
- Speaker #1
Is he really?
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Yeah. Cole Hauser.
- Speaker #1
And his. dad wing wings house i think it's his dad was in one of the greatest movies of all time days and confused oh i didn't know that if you haven't watched it ben affleck's in it it it was made i want to say in the mid to late 90s maybe but it takes place like in the 70s okay it's all about just kids high school kids smoking weed yeah i think i have seen it so good it's so good matthew mcconaughey's in it That's his, all right, all right, all right. That's his, that line is sometimes confused.
- Speaker #0
Yeah, that was the OG. Yeah.
- Speaker #1
And he's like the guy that graduated high school older, but still trying to, you know, hang out with younger kids, which now you'd get in big trouble for. And Bethlehem was cool because you're fucking Matthew McConaughey.
- Speaker #0
Get away with anything.
- Speaker #1
Couldn't make that movie like that now with that character.
- Speaker #0
No,
- Speaker #1
no. I think you'd get in trouble for that. But, but yeah, that's just, it's a, it's a, it's a cool thing to see the old man. was like a B-level actor. Yeah. But, you know, and the kid. Yeah. Holy shit.
- Speaker #0
Yep.
- Speaker #1
You know? Yeah. But that show, like, there, that's the thing is, with the story arc of the different characters, that's the best one. Yeah. To me. Yep. That's the best one. Yeah. I also like, is it Jimmy? Yeah. I love him.
- Speaker #0
I love him, too.
- Speaker #1
I love him. And I think they're doing, like, a four aces or four, whatever the, and it's a real, like, What's his nuts? Owns the fucking ranch.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Taylor Sheridan.
- Speaker #1
Yeah. Taylor owns the ranch in Texas.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
And I think that's like another spinoff they're going to do. Yeah. But he's great.
- Speaker #0
Yeah. Jimmy gets a little soft spot in your heart. Right?
- Speaker #1
Yeah. It's again, though, you reverse it. It's so well written. Yeah. It's so well done. I'm in the middle of rewatching the Sons of Anarchy. And is it Taylor? Yeah. Sheridan? He's in that. I forgot all about that. Oh. Super skinny. He's a cop. He gets killed off. Spoiler alert. But he's like three seasons, three, four seasons. He's in. Oh, yeah.
- Speaker #0
I've never seen that one.
- Speaker #1
Oh, it's a good show.
- Speaker #0
Okay.
- Speaker #1
If you like manly men, if you like rough manly men, which I kind of think you have to if you fucking where you live.
- Speaker #0
Jesus. Yeah, it's so funny. My college roommate was just visiting and we were out. Mom's night out. She's looking around and she's like. the men are just rough around here. She's like, they're all just like really, really manly men. I'm like, yeah, that's kind of the aesthetic. Everybody's got the beard, that like lumberjack look or the cowboy look.
- Speaker #1
Wranglers.
- Speaker #0
Somehow both.
- Speaker #1
Belt buckle.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
And see, I have the softest hands of any man on the planet. I'm not fucking handy. I'm good at swiping for shit. I can swipe on my Chase app and pay for shit. Yeah. Hey, that handyman to fucking come over to my house and fix shit. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, these hands are like a baby's ass. It's fucking crazy.
- Speaker #0
That's so funny. When I first met Mike, my partner, he went back to school at, I think he was 31 when he went back to school for petroleum engineering. And so he wasn't working with his hands for the first time in his life. And that's when I met him while he was in school. And I remember first touching his hands and I'm like, your hands are really soft. And he got so offended because he's like, I've never had soft hands in my life. And now I meet you and you comment on my baby soft hands. Mike,
- Speaker #1
it's okay. Mike, no calluses. Fucking nothing here. Like, this is like 600 thread count Egyptian cotton sheets, Mike. It's okay.
- Speaker #0
It's okay. It didn't last very long. As soon as he got out of school.
- Speaker #1
Yeah, now he's like, fuck that.
- Speaker #0
Yeah.
- Speaker #1
That's hysterical.
- Speaker #0
Now they're like. you know, attached little back scratchers. Now,
- Speaker #1
what do you see? Oh my God. You're so fucking funny. Jesus. We do have to figure out a way to get me out there to do like this type of thing. But then with like all the things,
- Speaker #0
yeah.
- Speaker #1
All the, all the things. Yeah. Would be, that'd be cool. Yeah. That'd be fucking cool.
- Speaker #0
Do everything.
- Speaker #1
Um,
- Speaker #0
give me the Montana experience.
- Speaker #1
I would, I would love that. Regarding the Montana experience in closing. Where do you see things going in terms of like the economy, housing, everything there?
- Speaker #0
I really honestly don't see anything slowing down. I think we still have a lot of room to grow. And you can argue this way and that way of whether or not you want it to happen or not. But the fact is, we still have the room. And it's I mean, we've got a lot of wide open spaces and a lot of people that want a little piece of our paradise. And so I think it's not slowing down with the market changing throughout the country and we're seeing some lulls in different areas. We're not. I mean, it's it's thriving, super competitive still, especially on the residential side. So I think we're in it for the long haul. I don't know. I don't think that we have the infrastructure to ever become like a Denver. But something, something chasing up to that.
- Speaker #1
What's the closest airport?
- Speaker #0
In Bozeman.
- Speaker #1
Bozeman that you could fly, hop on?
- Speaker #0
International.
- Speaker #1
Delta and go outside of Bozeman. So you're good.
- Speaker #0
Yep. Right? Yep.
- Speaker #1
I forgot to ask you this. Why real estate? Why are you a realtor? It's maddening. And why are you a realtor and you're not a raging alcoholic or a pill popping fentanyl snorting, you know, basket case? Or if you are, you're putting on a great show, by the way.
- Speaker #0
Well, I guess maybe I'm too young in the industry. I don't know. But I don't know. I was in the hospitality industry for well over a decade. Kind of worked my way to the top of the food chain there. managing different restaurants and bars and kind of put myself through college. I went to college for psychology and criminology and I had planned to go to law school. And the closest law school is Missoula. And I had, I was single mom with my oldest daughter at the time and I just couldn't, I couldn't pick up and make the move and commit to another three years of school. It was hard enough doing what I did. And yeah, once I kind of worked my way to the top of the hospitality industry, I'm like, man, this ceiling sucks. You know, like I'm going to make maybe $75,000 a year and that's it. I was making more money as a bartender before that, you know. And so, yeah, I come from a family of builders, developers. And. My dad was kind of like, well, you don't want to go to law school anymore. And you've kind of worked your way out of the industry you're in. You should go get your real estate license. And he'd been telling me to for years, but it took me until I was about 26 to listen. So hindsight, wish I would have listened to him a long time ago. But yeah, I just did it. I went for it and I really loved it. It gave me kind of the psychology piece. That's necessary to use in this industry. It gave me kind of satisfaction in the hospitality side because we're serving our clients. And then it gave me a little piece of that legal aspect with handling contracts and all of that stuff. So it kind of, it was just the best of all of my worlds put together. And I really do love it.
- Speaker #1
What is the catch word I bet every morning as a realtor?
- Speaker #0
The grind, honestly. Like I love that it's, if you have a lot of business and you care about your clients, real estate is not easy. It's very challenging. And I was just telling Mike this yesterday when I, you know, had shit hit the fan right before I was trying to leave town. And I'm like, I have a text to him and I'm like, I'm kicking ass. I'm getting all these ducks in a row. And I'm like, I thrive on this kind of stuff. And I wish I almost wasn't like that because I'm such a problem solver. I love, I love resolving conflict. I love swooping in, saving the day. Like, it feels good. I like to take the reins and let my clients sit back, relax, and watch the show.
- Speaker #1
And you have a team?
- Speaker #0
Yep, I do.
- Speaker #1
How many people on your team?
- Speaker #0
There's six.
- Speaker #1
Okay. And how involved are you with them? With, like, mentoring, you know?
- Speaker #0
Very involved. Yeah. I actually, when I chose to open my own brokerage, I took bits and pieces of where I was at. before and really made some intentional changes because I think a lot of times you get your real estate license and you're thrown to the wolves. And for somebody like me that likes to like chew their way out of situations, fine, throw me to the wolves, but not everybody operates that way. And they're really kind of left in the dark because a lot of managing brokers are also still selling real estate and they've got themselves as a priority. I still sell as well. and I'm a managing broker, but I've really tried to be intentional about my team in education, mentorship, training, and I also want consistency across my brand. So if you work with me or you work with Steve or you work with Megan, you're going to have a very similar experience because we're all, we're all on the same page. And I take a lot of time and investing into my teammates that way.
- Speaker #1
Good for you. Thank you, my friend for coming in. Yeah, this has been fun. how was it your first podcast how'd it go what do you think that's good it's just like you know having a lunch without any food exactly what thank jesus thank you for saying that because i i tell people if i do a fucking podcast it's i tell people it's it's like you're going out for drinks with somebody or going out for dinner yeah and there's just cameras up and lights and you're just having and the thing is when you get in the pocket with somebody and you get talking you don't even know yeah that this stuff is here you really do forget you're just going back and forth and talking i should have checked out the angles i don't know right there oh you're good scott scott scott's the man that's the man thank you my love for coming in thank you for having me we'll do we'll do part two yes we'll be we'll be fargo talks bozeman love it we'll figure it out thank you
