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• Talaya

  Hello everyone. This is Talaya Dendy, the host of Navigating Cancer TOGETHER, the show that has something for everyone facing cancer. Why? Because everyone is different. with different needs, beliefs, and perspectives. Thank you so much for joining us for this episode. I encourage you to open your minds and your hearts. Today, our very special guest is Dr. Jack Wolfson. Dr. Jack Wolfson is a board-certified cardiologist, he is a best-selling author, husband, father, and the nation's number one natural heart doctor. For 20-plus years, over a million people have experienced his transformational, powerful strategies originating from his Scottsdale, Arizona practice. He is one of America's top functional medicine doctors and is a five-time winner of the Natural Choice Awards as a holistic MD. His Amazon number one bestselling book is The Paleo Cardiologist: The Natural Way to Heart Health. Dr. Wolfson is against big pharma driven medical systems. He's replaced the traditional standard of care with eating well, living well, and thinking well. He is my kind of doctor. Thank you, Dr. Wolfson, for joining us today and welcome.

• Dr. Wolfson

  Thank you so much, Talaya. It's a pleasure to be on and thank you again for the wonderful intro. I appreciate it.

• Talaya

  My pleasure. Well deserved. So, Dr. Wolfson, please share what led you to specialize in cardiology and why are you known as the natural heart health doctor.

• Dr. Wolfson

  So, my father was a cardiologist. So, I'd like to say that I was... indoctrinated or heard the message of conventional cardiology when I was in the womb. So my father was talking to my mother, of course, and to his partners and friends about, you know, related things. So it's like, I heard that, of course, you know, again, all my way through and as a child, and as I grew older, I wanted to be just like my father and become a cardiologist. And that's exactly what I would do. I went through 10 years of medical training. And then I joined the biggest group in the state of Arizona as a hospital-based cardiologist. So my career was really taking off at that point at the age of 31. And unfortunately for my father, he was sick and dying of a Parkinson's-like illness. And he would eventually be diagnosed at the Mayo Clinic with progressive supranuclear palsy, which is similar to Parkinson's. And the Mayo Clinic says, we've got no idea what causes this, and we've got no treatments for this. And then, unfortunately for y'all, your father will be, you know, dead on average in three years. And simultaneously and serendipitously, I met the woman who met this young woman, and she is a doctor of chiropractic, and she tells me all the reasons why my father is sick and dying of this strange neurologic illness. So the Mayo Clinic has no idea. The 29-year-old chiropractor has all the reasons why. I listened to what she had to say. changed my entire life around, changed my medical practice around, and we would get married and now are married for 18 years and we've got four. incredible children that we raise in a very holistic and healthy fashion. And, you know, one thing is that all the reasons why my father was sick from this, you know, brain-based disease are all the same reasons why people get cardiovascular disease, which are all the same reasons that people get cancer. So when you remove the cause of these, that's how the body can heal. That's how the cures happen.

• Talaya

  Wonderful. Thank you so much for sharing that inspiring story. I liked all of the different things wrapped into it. You got the information, and education that you needed. You also found love. So that's an amazing story. Dr. Wolfson, how have you helped your patients transform their health and their lives?

• Dr. Wolfson

  Well, I think it's been really tremendous. And I tried to make inroads inside of the biggest medical practice again in Arizona. I was there for 10 years and I would leave in 2012. But I tried from that model to be able to help people. But unfortunately, the pharmaceutical-driven model really doesn't allow for that. It's very quick office visits. There's not much time for conversations about what causes high blood pressure or AFib or cancer or anything else like that. There's just time for testing and for pharmaceuticals and others. therapeutics. So, you know, clearly that's not, that's not the answer, you know, to the problem, you know, and ultimately what we have to do is just continue focusing on the cause of what causes people to get sick. But, you know, so when I started my own practice and natural heart doctor in 2012, you know, I help people just by telling them the truth of why they're sick and then giving them the education, but then also the support. and the accountability to say, okay, well, you know, let's really work on this together and keep the conversation going. And then the community aspect of what we offer as well. And I think that's very important to support people through their health journey.

• Talaya

  Yes, community is very important. And I want to touch on something that you mentioned, Dr. Wolfson, and that is the 15-minute visit. I remember sitting on a panel with a doctor and we were talking about, you know, just cancer in general. And I had mentioned from a patient perspective how like 15 minutes just wasn't enough. And he basically was like, well, that's just the way it is. There's nothing we can do about that. Can you please share how you've been able to override that 15-minute practice in the work that you do?

• Dr. Wolfson

  Yeah, well, you know, it's, I mean, one thing is that the doctors really don't have anything else to offer, so they don't need any more time than the 15 minutes, because if someone comes in, well, your cholesterol is high. Well, here's your cholesterol drug that took five seconds, right? Your blood pressure is high. Here's your blood pressure drugs that took five seconds. This is your cancer. And here's the, you know, slurry of chemotherapy, radiation and surgeries you're going to get. That took five seconds. So the conversation is real easy. The medical doctors don't have the training to talk about causation. We're not trained to learn about the foods. We're not trained to learn about the lifestyle. We're certainly not trained about healthy thought processes and thinking well. So we're not trained there. So therefore, you know, the majority of docs don't need more time. But if you are trying to teach your people about what foods to eat, what not to eat, how to live, how to, you know, avoid environmental toxins and pollutants and chemicals. All the different things involved in thinking well. What are the most advanced testing that we could really do? What about evidence-based supplements? What about biohacking strategies such as sauna, red light therapy, IV therapy, cold plunge, all these different things that we could do. Those conversations take a long time. So that's all just part of the educational process. But it was a beautiful awakening for me. It was a beautiful epiphany moment for me, personally, for my health, my health journey. Because, you know, this woman who would become my wife, she's like, if you want to, you know, be different than your dad, you better change your lifestyle. And I said, I don't want to die at 63. You know, people are dying way too young in this country, the life expectancy in this country. is the lowest of the industrialized countries. Men and women are dying in their mid to late 70s. And we have not improved on that significantly over many years. And it's just, it's unfortunate. I mean, many of those last years are spent in the hospital, in and out of hospitals, chronic illness, chronic disease, you know, in your world, you know, realm of cancer and minor heart disease. those last, you know, several years, if you even get that for a lot of people are not quality. And, and, and, and, and in general too, is that we should kind of tell people the truth. I mean, doctors also kind of, you know, obfuscate the truth. They don't tell people again, like, Hey, listen, you know, if you want me to go for chemotherapy, well, what's the evidence that it works and how much, how much longer will I live, you know, from this? Oh, well, you know, you know, you know, you probably get an extra couple of months and I'm like, well, okay, then I'm not doing that. I'm sorry. You want to tell me I get some extra years. Okay. Well, then we can have a conversation. I'm not totally against pharma, but I want data. And if you want me to do something, you know, radiation surgery, chemotherapy, I want to know, okay, what happens if I do it? What happens if I don't give me some real world information.

• Talaya

  All wonderful points. Great points. Dr. Wilson, to your points, you have written a book, The Paleo Cardiologist, The Natural Way to Heart Health. What can readers expect to gain from reading your book?

• Dr. Wolfson

  Well, the book. Really, I think it's about the paleo. First of all, we talk a lot about the problems in the medical system, but we also talk a lot about, you know, the causes of coronary artery disease, more what's eventually is developed into this philosophy that we call the 100-year heart method of eat well, live well, think well. That's really what our strategy is. And the more people follow that, the better off their health is going to be. We talk about holistic dentistry in the book. We talk about chiropractic care in the book. We talk about testing, supplements, biohacking. So we talk about that. A couple of things that I kind of advanced on, I guess, if you will, it changed my mind. In the book, I tell people to avoid coffee. If they drink coffee, make sure it's organic. I've kind of gone back certainly to say that I do love coffee. I think coffee is medicinal, especially when done with the good stuff. Big fan of that. And the other thing that I don't talk much about in the book is mold, living in a water damaged building, leading to mold and or bacteria exposure. And I've learned a lot over the last seven years about mold. and water damage building. And I'm telling you right now, it causes heart disease, brain disease, cancer, destroys the immune system, leading to brain, heart, and cancer. Living in a water damage building, it's written in the Hebrew Bible 3,500 years ago by Moses in the book of Leviticus. Mold. in a home is very, very, very deadly, which is what the mold wants. The mold wants to survive. I don't want to anthropomorphize this concept too much, but it's just mold is just, it's a living, breathing organism that has protection. And that protection that it releases is very injurious to our health. So people really need to take a good survey of their personal environment.

• Talaya

  Dr. Wolfson, mold is not always visible. So what are some symptoms that people may experience if they don't see the mold in their homes? Maybe it's in the wall somewhere or something like that. Can you please share some of the symptoms?

• Dr. Wolfson

  Great question. So the symptoms truly, Talia, can be anything, can be totally anything. But very often women experience brain fog, weight gain. skin issues. And more commonly, the women are more symptomatic, low energy, fatigue, maybe fertility issues, but ultimately cancer, heart disease, brain disease, you name it. Multiple sclerosis, I think is a famous thing that is from mold exposure. So Regarding the symptoms, it could truly be anything. Gastrointestinal, you know, very often. Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, constipation, abdominal pain, irritable bowel syndrome, things like that. Okay. And then from a testing standpoint, there's really a couple things you could do. One, you could test your house, which is always really good. And I recommend what's called the number eight Swiffer test. We have that on our website that we sell. And then, of course, we go over the results. And the other thing you can do is you can test your own urine. company called Vibrant. We run that test as well. It's the mycotoxin test, test for over 30 different mycotoxins from mold. And if it's in your urine, we got to figure out where it's coming from. Is it food? Is it environmental? Is it a combination of both? It's a problem because it's real easy to tell someone, hey, take this supplement, get more sunshine, eat more seafood. Well, now once you get into, okay, your home needs to be remediated, it's unremediable, you know, the cost, the expense, it's all over your clothes. it's a big, big, big problem, but nonetheless, it's a problem.

• Talaya

  Wow! Thank you for sharing that important information. Now let's shift to chemotherapy and cancer treatments. How do chemotherapy and cancer treatments affect one's heart?

• Dr. Wolfson

  Well, you know, certainly there are well-known chemo agents that do affect, and every day there's new things that are used in the quote-unquote fight against cancer. I'm certainly not up to date on all of those things that can, but I do think that any pharmaceutical can be cardiotoxic. You know, things like doxorubicin, I think were notorious to lead to cardiac injury. Some not so much, but I think either directly or indirectly, everything's got the potential to damage the heart. Really just starting on how a chemo agent... can impact the gut microbiome. And if you damage the gut microbiome, you're going to have problems from that, including cardiovascular disease. So I think ultimately it's really a matter of, okay, does this pharmaceutical, does this chemo agent, you know, does it work? What is the evidence that it works versus placebo? And then what are my other options? And then if I do need to do that, then how can I best support my system? And we do have patients like that who are undergoing standard chemotherapy, and it is our job to monitor everything else surrounding that, whether it's gut function, markers of inflammation, oxidative stress, intracellular vitamins, minerals, to support them through that. And then also is that cleaning up their environment. I spoke of the truth about cancer in 2016 and 17. and Ty Bollinger and his wife, the founders of that event, then they asked me to speak, and I said, okay, why do you want me to speak? I'm a cardiologist, and they said, well, you know, they all have cardiac issues, and I stood there up on stage, and I said to Leah, I said, you cannot get healthy in the same environment where you got sick. So you have to change up your environment. Now, does that mean moving? Should you move to Costa Rica or South Caribbean or Northeastern Africa where we're all from? Should you move there? Well, that would be the number one health strategy to move to an equatorial location. But you have to change up your environment. Maybe it's a change of, you know, again, like you live 30 minutes north of Minneapolis and you're like, okay, I love it here. I don't want to leave here. Okay. I think that's a bad move. No insult to the great people, you know, to the great people of Minnesota and my hometown of Chicago. But it's just not a healthy place to live. But if you're going to stay there, you have to live in the healthiest home possible. You have to get good quality sleep and you have to get good quality. The more time we spend outside, the longer we live. If I'm thinking if I want to beat cancer, I am living outside. I'm living outside with my solar panel in the sun, right? My skin. People with darker skin, they need more sun than us white guys. and they just don't get that in the majority of places where people live. Boston, New York, Portland, Seattle, Milwaukee, St. Louis, on and on and on. You just don't. Canada, you just don't. And that's why the further away you are from the equator, the more sickness there is. But again, these are tough decisions, but if you want the answers, if you're like, why do I have cancer? It's real simple. violations of eating well, living well, thinking well, from before you were conceived, through in utero, from the moment that you came out of your mother's womb. to where you are now. The whole thing, the violations of eating well, living well, thinking well, are what caused your cancer. It's not genetics. It's got nothing to do with genetics. Our genetics are perfect. We are built in the image of God and or evolution or God-directed evolution, which is what I personally believe in, in case anyone cares. Nonetheless, we're perfect. It is man-made poisons, and I'm blaming the men, that screw everything up.

• Talaya

  Okay. I agree with everything that you've just said. Thank you so much for explaining it so eloquently. I do have a question. I think you said before we were conceived. Please explain that. Are you saying that from our parents, you know, whatever they've been through, please explain Dr. Wolfson.

• Dr. Wolfson

  Okay. So first of all, there's a lot that we do not know about multiple generations. Let's just say going back 10 generations and physical and emotional trauma that occurred 10 generations ago. How does that impact our health today? I think it definitely does in a whole variety of ways. But let me get something that's a little bit more obvious to people. So when you take your grandmother and your grandmother, she's pregnant with your mother, and your mother is in your grandmother's womb, and your mother is being formed, her brain, her heart, her lungs, and her ovaries are being formed, and the eggs in her ovaries are being formed. The eggs in your mother's ovaries inside of your grandmother is you. So if your grandmother is smoking, for example, or if your grandmother is eating unhealthy, or if your grandmother was exposed to some major toxin, that impacts the egg, which is you inside of your mother. So that's, that's, again, that's just basic embryology and anatomy. But, you know, ultimately, you know, before your mother, you know, before, and now you got, now your mother lives this entire life and whatever she is exposed to also impacts the egg and the quality of the egg, not the genetics necessarily, but the epigenetics, how the outside world. and inside the world, interact with your genome. And that creates proteins and health, you know, essentially. So that's where it goes back to. There's a lot of different factors associated with that. I mean, we do know that people who, you know, mother and father, you know, smoke before they were pregnant and have a higher risk of everything. So, you know, we're learning more and more data, but it's clearly, and obviously there's not a lot we could do about it. Like, okay, great, you know, great information. So in my grandmother's smoke, now what do I do? But it helps people to understand. that this is why you're in the situation you're in. And then these are the steps to get out of it. And then of course, it makes us more militant about you getting on to a podcast like this and talking to people like me and having these conversations because this is how we can teach our children and our grandchildren. about what we do. Like, I mean, I have a 17-year-old, a 12-year-old, a six-year-old, and three-year-old, and they are absolutely brainwashed into their health models. And if we do more of that brainwashing of those, I mean, like there is no scenario where my kids would be like, oh, my God, I want to try McDonald's or I want to have, you know, Cocoa Pebbles, which is totally contrary to how I grew up. I grew up, I mean, again, just I mean, eating and living in poison. And when I met my wife and she opened up my eyes and she says, yeah, you know, you don't want to die, then you're going to change. I'm like, well, I don't want to die. I don't look back at a diet and stuff like that. You can never have sugar, just whatever your advice is, just make it organic. If you want ice cream, have organic ice cream. I'm not encouraging you to eat ice cream, but just do it organically. Get the poisons, the chemicals out of your food. Big deal.

• Talaya

  Thank you so much for sharing that in-depth, Dr. Wolfson. Let's talk about cardiac screening for cancer survivors. What kind of screening is recommended for survivors and how often?

• Dr. Wolfson

  Well, you know, I mean, as far as like screening is concerned, you know, I mean, again, it depends on what the agent was that was used, whether it was radiation based, you know, surgical based, obviously chemo based, whatever it was, you know, cardiac ultrasound is the safest technology because it is ultrasound. I'm not a big fan for sure of CT scans and even MRI with contrast like gadolinium. I would prefer to do things with ultrasound technology, but my favorite of course is just blood, urine, stool testing, saliva testing, if necessary. non-invasive ways to take a look at things. So probably if you had one marker to check, I would, you know, recommend a urine or what's called lipid peroxide. So that's for Testing your urine, which you don't need a doctor's order for, no blood, it can be done at home. We sell this on our website from a company called Genova, just to let everyone know what kind of word exists. And you can get it from somewhere else, you don't have to get it from me. But it's a home test looking for oxidative stress as determined in your urine. So what does that mean? If you have high levels of oxidative stress, because the bottom should have balance and therefore no stress. We have pro-oxidative forces. We have antioxidant forces, of course, that everybody's familiar with. And they should be in balance. If they're out of balance, it'll show up in the testing and then you can do further testing to figure out where the imbalance is from and then work to fix that. But if it's one test, it's that. I'm not a fan at all of standard cholesterol testing, total cholesterol, LDLs, HDLs, that testing is worthless. I'm much more interested in inflammation, oxidative stress. There's many other advanced markers, but those are just a few of the names.

• Talaya

  Okay. And Dr. Wolfson, if a cancer patient has to have a number of CT scans, MRIs, that kind of thing, are there ways that they can detox their bodies after?

• Dr. Wolfson

  Yeah, that's a great question. So, you know, focusing on eating well, living well, thinking well is always going to be good for pre, you know, during and post cancer. And don't forget, you can always ask for second opinions. This is not 1970s, my way, or the highway. Physicianing is a partnership. It's not a dictatorship. It's a partnership. And if a doctor is not willing to be your partner, then you need to find a new physician to partner with. But to answer your question, I love the idea of just packing yourself full of seafood all the time, free range grass fed meats, specifically bison. a big fan. We're a big fan of wild, essentially wild, you know, free range bison, the organs, liver, heart, kidney, you know, and such. Those are all very good. Whenever you go for any kind of procedure, you know, just making sure that you're well hydrated, urine, you know, after, you know, make sure you're urinating well, moving your bowels well, even sauna therapy, you know, to sweat, you know, after procedures, those can all kind of be helpful depending on what the procedure is. But, you know, if the healthiest version of you. is going through the procedure or the testing. That's going to give you your best strategy. Then if you're someone who, again, eats McDonald's cookies and cupcakes before, during, and after the procedure, you're in a lot of trouble. You're in a lot of trouble. That's not a good survival strategy.

• Talaya

  Okay. Thank you for sharing that. Dr. Wolfson, sometimes it's hard for patients to really explain what they're feeling inside, any pains or aches or things like that. How can cancer patients effectively communicate any heart-related concerns to their oncologist?

• Dr. Wolfson

  Well, I think, you know, once again, it should be a good conversation. You know, that's what it amounts to. It should be a good conversation that people can have, you know, with their doctors. And it should not be adversarial. It should not be confrontational. It should be very relaxed. Stress is bad. It's really bad for your heart. It's really bad for cancer survival. People with the happiest attitudes, the best attitudes, they're the people who, you know, who survive cancer, you know, much more commonly, right? So you've really got to work on finding your happiness. You know, spirituality, gratitude, passion, purpose. What greater... what greater thing could someone do as a cancer, you know, you know, trying to quote unquote, fight cancer, combat cancer, than to speak the gospel of the truth of, hey, this is a much better way to stay healthy and passing the word around like you are right now. So, you know, that's really ultimately, I think, going to be our best strategy. But you know something, there are, you know, Take Minneapolis, for example. How many oncologists, cancer doctors are there in the Minneapolis area? I don't know, probably 200. So go find one that resonates with you. Have a relationship, right? You know, Talaya, you and I can look at this and, you know, me personally, I can say. there are thousands of women that I could be with. But I resonate with my wife. I love, like, this is my partner. So who do you want to work with going forward? Whether it's, you know, a boss on the job, your spiritual, you know, the pastor of the church, the rabbi in the synagogue, you know, the imam in the mosque, you know, again, like, you know, who do you want to be with? And be with people you want to be with and find the people. And that includes your brand, your community, family. You know, it's like if you don't resonate with your family, meaning you don't agree with them and your relationships are confrontational, then maybe time to, you know, really distance yourself from those relationships. And that's okay. You know, I look at a lot of previous relationships. Obviously, the stuff I say is very, you know, controversial and different from the way that a lot of my former, you know, friends, I mean, the people I trained with, the medical doctors I trained with, And, you know, again, I don't begrudge them for where they're at. And, you know, we've got some wonderful memories. We, you know, we did this, we did this, we thought about this, you know, again, and those are, you know, God bless those memories. And I hope you have a wonderful life. You know, I'll see you next time.

• Talaya

  Yeah, I love that. What I heard you say, Dr. Wolfson, is keep it simple. When you are looking for an oncologist, who would you want to be with? What are you looking for in a relationship? So I really like that perspective. Instead of feeling like you have to rush and find the first doctor and start on this path of treatment right away, it's really important to make that connection, be with someone you feel comfortable with and someone who sees you as a partner.

• Dr. Wolfson

  Yeah, you know, solid tumors, colon cancer, prostate cancer, you know, gastrointestinal cancers, lung cancers, those you've got plenty of time to shop around. Now, there are certain forms of cancers like an acute leukemia or something like that, where, you know, again, you need urgent, you know, days, you know, counts, you know, on that in theory. But even then, if you're so sick where days matter, You know, it's not a good prognosis. It's obviously not, but it really should be the opportunity to work with people who you want to work with. But I'm not saying it's going to be easy, right? Because they are fully trained and indoctrinated in this particular area. But, you know, there are some wonderful holistic cancer practitioners in the United States, outside of the United States, people in Mexico, Germany, South America, Central America, Asia. There are people to communicate with, and I don't know, you know, Talay, if you've got any kind of resources for your followers in that area, but whether it's cardiac, brain, it's real simple to get a second opinion. My father taught me that, you know, many years ago. Say you're thinking about your car or anything, your house, like, you know, right? I mean, you know, what computer should I buy? I mean, people, right? They will spend days and days and days. Oh, you know, should I get this new iPhone? What about, should I maybe switch over to Samsung or vice versa? Like, we'll research this stuff to know when. Well, you know, where should I go on vacation? Should I go camping, you know, in the Pacific West? Should I go to the Caribbean? Like, where should I go? We'll study this stuff all day long, but it's like, oh my God, I need a cancer doctor. Hello, can I see you? Oh yeah, okay, good, I'm coming out. You know, that's-

• Talaya

  So true.

• Dr. Wolfson

  Easy, it's crazy. But also too is that there's just not enough information online to be able to determine. what, you know, a physician who you'd want to see. Now, of course, from a cardiology standpoint, that's true as well. And there are holistic providers like myself. And you go to my website, and I spell it all out real quickly for you. This is who I am. This is what I stand for. And if you want to work with me, then great.

• Talaya

  Dr. Wolfson's website is phenomenal. He actually has a couple of them. And Dr. Wolfson, please tell the audience where they can go to learn more about your work and how you support your patients. Well, thank you. My website's called naturalheartdoctor, all spelled out naturalheartdoctor.com. You can find us online anywhere as well on all social media platforms, unless I get kicked off, but then there's always that potential, you know, for that, as you know. And then if you want a copy of my book, I sell it on Amazon free heart. You can also go to freeheartbook.com. All you do is pay shipping. And then if you're interested in some of the best coffee in the world. theology coffee.com also on amazon as well our coffee it's tested for mold mycotoxins it's also tested for glyphosate and has neither one of those we get it from a single source in honduras it was started and is a women's co-op so it started in 1993 by honduran women women looking to empower themselves and it exists today it's much bigger operation than it was then they started with two acres now it's about 75 acres and then we donate five percent of all proceeds not profits, but proceeds, not there's not a lot of profit in the coffee industry. But all proceeds goes to a group called Friends of Honduran Children. So we donate the money to that organization. And they're working on organic farming and living practices for the children of Honduras, which is very exciting. Nice. And I will have all of Dr. Wolfson's websites, social media in the listen notes for this episode. So please feel free to check him out. Dr. Wolfson. You have been talking about this during our whole conversation, but I'm going to ask this question anyway. What is medical freedom and where do you stand on it? And I'm asking because a lot of people have not heard those words, medical freedom.

• Dr. Wolfson

  So, you know, freedom, obviously everybody knows, you know, what things they know what freedom means. Okay. And you, my assumption, right, is that you come from some closer African-American lineage, certainly than I do. Freedom is a big deal. Like, you know, people have fought for their freedom and we should be. It is our God given right to be free people, you know, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What does that mean? It means get the government out of my way. If I want to have chemotherapy or I don't, that's my choice. If I want to take pharmaceuticals, it's my choice. If I want to, if you, you know, if somebody wants to inject their child with chemicals, that's up to them. I'm personally against it. I wish they wouldn't, but I'm a freedom guy. If you want to poison your children, that's up to you. I don't. That being said, medical freedom is about just shopping around and having the choices of what we want to do. You can't force me to do a procedure or take a drug that I don't want to take. And I think the other thing, too, is that the freedom to have these conversations. Restricting freedom of speech, not only is it against the founding fathers of the Constitution, the freedom of speech. Again, it's a God-given right of freedom of speech, and we should be able to say whatever we want on whatever platform we want. But, you know, there's a lot of nuance and a lot of debate and a lot of, you know, what-ifs. Well, you know, again, should you be allowed to go into a, you know, crowded theater and yell fire and stuff like that? Again, there's a lot of areas of debate in there, but I'm always about, hey, listen, you know, you do you, I'll do me. In theory, again, as long as what you do doesn't affect me, but even that, again, it gets into, you know, this kind of gray zone very quickly and all these different issues. So I don't know. But at the very least, the freedom to the freedom of speech, I think, is certainly paramount, you know, where we can all share our opinions, our thoughts on all different platforms. I think that that should do us a lot. Now, then again, I do believe that, you know, Facebook, for example, is a private entity. Should they be allowed to control the speech that's there? You know, again, these are pretty big issues and pretty big things of what to get. But let me just say, yeah, I'm definitely a supporter of freedom.

• Talaya

  Yeah, I agree. I love that. And I would like to encourage everyone listening to tap into their medical freedom, you know, explore, learn about what's out there. Go check out Dr. Wolfson's website. He has so much. very helpful information. He has so many testimonials of people that he's helped. So if you have questions, as you can tell from our conversation, he's very approachable, very open-minded. So please don't sit there and feel like your hands are tied. There are people like Dr. Wolfson who are out there waiting and willing to support you and answer any questions and help you tap into your medical freedom. Dr. Wolfson, I want to... Go back to pharmaceutical companies for a moment. Please explain how they are controlling our health by manipulating doctors.

• Dr. Wolfson

  Yeah, ultimately, the pharmaceutical cartel, if you think about, you know, cartels are, I guess, these kind of nefarious controlling organizations. And you got the pharma cartel, and there's the banking cartel, and you've got the military cartel, and the energy cartel, and all these different entities control you know the world and they control all the governments and therefore they set the policy so if you're a pharmaceutical cartel you know 1.5 trillion dollar industry that's a lot of influence and they influence the government guidelines and influence what we see in here on television they influence the medical training all the medical governing bodies so the american heart association american cancer society it's all infiltrated by pharma so Once you understand that, then you can look at it and just kind of see what they're trying to do to us. And it's definitely a problem. And that's where this kind of groundswell of people like you taking to the airwaves and saying, hey, let's interview some other people with different philosophies here. And that's where, again, where we can win the battle of ideology. If you look at, again, the pharmaceutical industry, 1.5 trillion. Lipitor, the number one-selling drug of all time, is a useless statin drug that has caused so much destruction. And then again, you go to the last three years, three, four years, and what's happened to four years now. Of course, what's happened in the United States and around the world and what happened to us, I think, was a crime against humanity. And hopefully, the people will rise up and say never again. like never again are we going to allow this but we'll see I think the the other side again they're going to regroup if that's what you would call it uh and they will come up with something else that they're going to try and get us with whether it is an energy crisis a banking crisis or another alleged uh a health you know crisis you know again the fool is going to be the one who stands on the side and doesn't realize that this is happening they're not preparing for it But yeah, I think we are in for, you know, for more battles ahead.

• Talaya

  I think you're right, Dr. Wolfson. That was definitely a test to see how far they could go. And it's very interesting to me that now it's almost like you don't hear anything else about it. Just like overnight, it seemed it was gone and that's it. We're done with that, and that is an indicator right there that something was not right. Yeah.

• Dr. Wolfson

  Well, that was certainly a big one, if you will. But if you look at, because we do lectures on this, and if you look at the tactics of pharma over years, and you could talk about, you know, there's the Spanish flu of 1918, and there were a couple big flu, you know, alleged flu, you know, virus, and they call it a virus back then. But there were these things that were happening, and then you get, you know, the polio virus. And then you get the Hong Kong flu in 1968. And then it became like every few years, there was, right, there was bird flu, swine flu, Ebola, SARS-1, SARS-2, measles outbreak. They keep doing this. And then, of course, the most recent one. And then the World Health Organization is telling us right now that they are preparing for something that is going to be 10 times worse. They're telling us. to prepare for something that's 10 times worse. Now, of course, their definition of prepare is going to be stay inside, stay safe, and wait until we come to save you. And if you're going to follow that again, like after you just did it, but I think, you know, Talaya, that the next one is going to be something. If they're going to do something, it's going to have to be of just extraordinary magnitude to control the population again. There's a lot of us out there, right? Who would be like, I didn't fall for it the first time. I'm not going to fall for the second time. There's a lot of people out there who are like, okay, I fell for it the first time, but I'm not going to fall for it again. Those people are the wild cards, because those are the people if they fell for it the first time. They're likely going to fall for it a second time, especially when they 10x the whole thing. But, you know, I don't want to get too crazy and too worrisome about it. But at the same time, you have to be, let me say this, hope for the best, prepare for the worst. and if you're not preparing I'm not talking about getting toilet paper because personally I don't care about toilet paper I don't need toilet paper let's say I could eat toilet paper I don't care about toilet paper I'm talking about having a decent supply of water and food and security and protection to weather the storm now the storm say it's an energy crisis say it lasts a few days Okay, well, that would be a good scenario. Again, like if you could survive for a few days without power, without water, without, you know, without food, you couldn't go shopping, for example, for those. Again, if you got a few days, you know, maybe even a couple of weeks while things hopefully would settle down. But I don't know, like, again, like things can go sideways instantly. Big cities can go anarchy and chaos very quickly. very quickly. And if you don't understand that, and if you don't have some semblance of being prepared for that, then I think you're being really foolish.

• Talaya

  Thank you so much for those wise words, Dr. Wolfson. It has been such an honor to talk with you today. I appreciate your transparency, your honesty, your focus around health and wellness. Is there anything else before we wrap up, Dr. Wolfson, that you would like to share about the 100-Year Heart? any of your work, anything else?

• Dr. Wolfson

  Well, I think, you know, we kind of went a little bit doom and gloom there and stuff like that. But I think there's also, there's really just, there's some beauty and happiness in the empowerment of saying, you know, I'm awake, I'm awake. I know what's going on. I may not be able to do anything about it at the end of the day, but I'm going to try my best, you know, to do it the right way. But listen, just spend more time outside. And listen, you're inside right now. I'm inside right now. We're having this conversation. But we've got six goats, 25 chickens. I'm outside all the time. We live in the mountains of Colorado. I'm moving the tribe down to Costa Rica within the next year. And I'm really going to be embracing that kind of holistic lifestyle. And anyone who's interested and wants more information about our Costa Rica project, they can also get a hold of me there too. And Talia, you're going to come down and visit us, I hope.

• Talaya

  Yes, I will be there.

• Dr. Wolfson

  And yeah, no, that's it. I appreciate you having me on your show and this opportunity to share. So thank you again.

• Talaya

  Thank you so much, Dr. Wolfson. Again, it's been an honor and a pleasure. I have a question for the audience, really something to think about. What surprised you most about the information discussed in this episode? Again, what surprised you most about the information discussed in this episode? And please share that with Dr. Wolfson. He's very approachable. Reach out to him if you have questions. Let me know by sending me an email. We just want to keep this conversation going because it's so important. And I really think it's a life or death situation in a lot of instances. Thank you so much for joining us. I would like to give a shout-out to the listeners. Please share, follow, or subscribe so that you can easily find this podcast and listen again. Listen to Navigating Cancer TOGETHER on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. And please, if you are struggling with... a cancer diagnosis, you're not sure which way to turn, you're under a lot of stress and pressure, get your free guided meditation. And you can get that at ontheotherside.life backslash guided meditation. That is it for this Wednesday. And until next time, let's keep navigating cancer together. Take care. Thanks for listening to this episode of Navigating Cancer Together. I hope you found it helpful. Please be sure to subscribe, share, and tell your friends and family about it. For notes from the show and previous episodes, visit ontheotherside.life and check out the podcast section. I would love it if you join me for the next episode. Talk to you soon.